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that will generate value for our investors. that's why i go beyond the numbers. you're live in the cnn "newsroom." in ana cabrera. in a few days, barring something drastic happening, president trump will likely be the third u.s. president to be impeached. they'll vote on two articles of impeachment, abuse of power, obstruction of congress. wednesday, only two democrats said they will vote against impeachment. jeff andrew of new jersey and colin peterson of minnesota. they represent districts president trump won in 2016.
unless there's a flood of defection to follow, the president will formally be impeached and face trial in the senate. that trial is expected to start in january. if you expect a thorough and impartial trial, you may not want to hold your breath. republicans aren't even pretending that's what will happen. >> a debate going about how a trial should be held in the senate, including whether to have live witnesses. you don't support live witnesses. why? >> i want this to end as quick as possible for the good of the senate, for the good of the country, and i think the best thin for america to do is get this behind us. we know how it is going to end so we can focus on the problems we talked about today. if you don't like president trump, you can vote against him in less than a year. it's not like a politician is unaccountable if you don't impeach him.
i think impeachment is going to end quickly in the senate. i would prefer it to end as quickly as possible. use the record that was assembled in the house to pass impeachment articles as your trial record. i don't want to call anybody, i don't need to hear from hunter biden or from joe biden. we can deal with that outside of impeachment. i don't want to talk to pompeo, i don't want to talk to pence. i want the house to make the case based on the record established in the house and i want to vote. >> cnn congressional reporter lauren fox is live in the nation's capital. lauren, is this what we can expect or is graham talking to an audience of one? >> this is a talking point of a lot of republicans. conversations with rank and file members, they seem to be marching toward the idea of a shorter trial. majority leader mitch mcconnell hasn't been shy about the fact that's his preference. one of the reasons is there are
a lot of moderate members for whom this could become contentious back and forth if asked to vote individually on every witness that the president might want to see on the floor of the senate. i mean, that's basically asking these members to be with the president or to vote in a way that mieght hem them in reelections. imagine susan collins having to vote whether or not she wants to hear from the whistle-blower in the well of the senate, that could be a very controversial vote. that's why some republicans are making the case a shorter trial might be better. whether or not the democratic colleagues agree with that may be irrelevant because those folks won't have the final say on what the senate trial looks like. that's majority leader mitch mcconnell that has the final authority on how the trial will be run, ana. >> he, too, made comments, sounding like if it is up to him be short and that he also knows how it will end which is that the president will not be removed from office.
he said those remarks publicly. lauren, stand by. i want to bring in "the washington post" reporter carl demergen. why not try to pretend to be a fair juror? >> well, impeachment is not a pure court process. the senators have to be to exist in the parallel space, being a juror, and that requires being fairly unbiased, not commenting on it, yet also being an elected official which is a political role. impeachment is a political process as well. existing in that hybrid space, there's never been a dictionary definition or statutory definition how you do it. in the past, seems like senators have been more skiddish about the idea, seeming biased, seeming to have preconceived notions, wanting to keep the veneer of impartial juror more intact. i think you see with people like lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell, comments on how they plan to orchestrate the senate trial,
doesn't sound like -- like it is disinterested in what the outcome is. >> new polls find americans are split on impeachment. lauren, more think the president shouldn't be impeached. if the president isn't going to be convicted in the senate, are democrats concerned that they're risking too much here? >> certainly i think the moderate members in the house of representatives who won in districts the president won in 2016, they're the ones having to walk the tightest line. tom malinowski held a town hall a few minutes ago. here's the reception he got when he said he planned to volt for articles of impeachment. >> based on the evidence that i have seen in the depositions, in the hearings, and the documents i have seen, i believe that on two counts of impeachment that have been put before us that the vote should be yes and i will be
voting yes. >> reporter: that reaction very split. you hear applause and hear people standing up, you also hear boos. that gets to the fact this is a divisive issue for members in swing districts who have trump supporters and liberals in their district who they're trying to make happy. it is a difficult balance. >> speaking of new jersey lawmakers, "the washington post" is reporting one of the two democrats we talked about who have come out against impeachment, jeff van drew met with president trump and is considering switching parties? what's going on here? >> right. they're reporting my colleagues suggest that after the meeting there will be a party switch happening with jeff van drew, i is not saying that's the case yet, sourcing saying that's expected to happen. he has been the most critical democrat when it comes to impeachment. he has given the most -- he has
given statements that seem to be the most unconvinced. they question the wisdom since the get go, and he has been basically the nay sayer in the democratic party when others in the moderate camp reference being important members have come around to side with nancy pelosi and back articles of impeachment. van drew never did that. it seems like this is gearing up to have him potentially not be a democrat any more, which has to do, i am sure this decision has more to do with both where his politics lie, not just on the question of impeachment but also the democratic party right now is a very pro-impeachment party, even if half the country is not in favor of impeaching the president, i think the numbers are higher for democrats. if you look at internal polling numbers, running as a democrat when you were one of the few to say i can't do this, that complicates your re-election race, too. it will be interesting to see when he makes that switch and if there is a rationale given at
that time. >> it is interesting to talk about fractures within the democratic party. i remember for so long talking about the fractures in the republican party, and right now we're hearing from at least the minority leader kevin mccarthy there will be no defections when it comes to voting articles of impeachment. i wonder in the senate when it comes to the proceedings, lauren, the idea of a quick trial, no witnesses, are all republicans on the same page because they were up in arms about not hearing from more witnesses in the house process. >> well, you know, it is funny, ana, a couple weeks ago when i started to ask republican senators what their preference was in the trial, you heard from people like rand paul that wanted to hear from the whistle-blower. you also heard from some moderates that said i want to be careful that i don't look like i am cutting the process short, i want the voters to think i listened to a case against the president. now the same members, those moderates seem to be changing their mind a little bit. they're realizing they will be
forced into tough votes if this starts to extend more than a couple weeks, if it extends past the point of where the house managers present a case and white house counsel present a case. then they get into a tough up and down vote process where they're going to have to take contentious, tough votes. i think it started to shift and i think it will be interesting to see over christmas what polling is. perhaps if polling shows it is good for republicans to drag the process out, maybe that starts to shift again. i think we have to watch and see how things shake out in the upcoming weeks. >> real quickly, people like mitt romney expressed they're open to listening to evidence when it comes to considering impeachment. do you get a sense the republicans may not be lock step in the senate? >> i think there's a few, a handful leaving that possibility open. there were a handful of republicans left that open in the house when the process
started, too, and that possibility quickly closed as proceedings went on. i would not bank necessarily on the senate gop members that are talking that way sticking that through. we'll have to take signals, signs how they speak as the trial progresses and if that shifts. >> thanks, ladies. as the impeachment engulfs the white house, president trump has hit the road, attending army navy game in philadelphia. last hour, he met with players in their locker rooms, then did the coin toss. cnn's sarah westwood is there for us. sarah, interesting optics here. >> reporter: that's right, ana. perhaps a welcome distraction for president trump. he received a warm welcome from the audience here at philadelphia's lincoln financial field. that audience consists largely of current, former, future service members. this is the third time he attended the army navy game, he came last year and once as president-elect. he is the 10th to come to the
matchup, something of a tradition for presidents to come to the army navy game. when the president got here, he first went to the army locker room, then the navy locker room, rallied the players before the game and touted a reform that would allow graduates of military academies to play sports professionally before they complete military service if good enough to go pro. trump said the coach of the army team brought that issue to his attention, a reform headed by secretary esper. he participated in the coin toss with mike pompeo. the president loves to point out that pompeo was a west point graduate. a few moments from now, the president watching from the army side will cross the field, go over to the navy side. commanders in chief don't want to seem biased toward one military branch represented at the game, they watch half from one side, half from the other side. on a somber note, this game will
be honoring the three navy s.e.a.l.s shot at pensacola air force base in pensacola, florida. they'll be honored by the co-captain of the navy game and fellow service members are wearing special commemorative patches to honor their memory at the game. >> bittersweet moment. thank you for that reporting. north korea has said it successfully conducted another crucial test at its missile site. the second at the same time kim jong-un said he would dismantle. fighter or uniter, the candidates define themselves for voters while turning up the heat on each other. the supreme court steps into whether the president must release financial records. you're live in the "newsroom." stand up straight. and speak with purpose. yeah? go on, give it a practice run.
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tensions on the rise again with north korea after another secret test. pyongyang conducted what it calls a crucial test at a missile launch site. the second one in a week. state media says the test was late friday, part of a nuclear deterrent system but north korea won't say exactly what it tested and south korean officials say they're unable to confirm any specifics. cnn's paula hancocks has the latest from seoul. >> reporter: a second test from north korea in just one week. we heard from pyongyang through
state run media just like last weekend's test was very important, it was crucial, successful. this particular one, although pyongyang hasn't specified what they tested said it was important for nuclear deterrent. it is at the same site as last weekend. this is an area that the u.s. president donald trump when he met with kim jong-un in singapore said kim jong-un told him he would dismantle the area. satellite imagery showed that he had, in fact, disman tetled somf it, earlier this year was evidence it was being rebuilt. they believe it was an engine test that could power an icbm, which could potentially hit main land, united states, or could be used for a sat liellite launche. we don't know what was tested
this weekend. we know that north korea has threatened a christmas gift, a year end deadline, new path to the united states, depending on what the united states was going to do with negotiations with north korea. we also know that we are expecting the u.s. special envoy for north korea, steve becon, arriving in seoul. this test comes jugs before he arrives here, he will have talks with south korean officials, was seen potentially as a last ditch effort before end of the year to try to reengage north korea, but clearly north korea at this point is focusing on its testing. paula hancocks, cnn, seoul. to new zealand now, police divers are searching murky waltewalt waters contaminated from the volcanic eruption. they found six bodies friday, two are still missing, presumed dead. brings the death toll to 16.
the volcano erupted while dozens were visiting the popular tourist spot. we learned the name of one of the victims of the tragedy, a 21-year-old from australia. her sister and father were on the island, the mother stayed on board the cruise ship. she and her father are comatose, treated in hospital burn units. the 2020 democratic candidates are sharpening attacks on each other as they pitch themselves to voters. two things that keep coming up, age and electability. the concerns the party is moving too far left to beat trump. next.
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>> they can't bring the country together, we're in real, real, real trouble. >> reporter: in the 2020 race, some democrats are pitching themselves as healers. >> i am running to be the president who can do that, who can gather up those pieces and bring the american people together. >> reporter: while others present themselves as fighters. >> when i got into the race for president, i knew what i would be fighting for, i knew who i would be fighting for. >> reporter: with 52 days to go before voting starts, candidates are in a fierce debate about what america will need in a post trump world. >> what we need to do right now is galvanize, not polarize. >> reporter: buttigieg taking a jab at senator elizabeth warren. >> we will fight when we must fight, but i will never allow us to get so wrapped up in the fighting that we start to think fighting is the point. >> reporter: biden echoing that message, criticizing the
progressive candidate's approach on health care. >> they're saying my way or the highway. >> reporter: warren hit back in a major speech, without naming them, targeted biden. >> unlike some candidates for the democratic nomination, i am not counting on republican politicians having an epiphany. >> reporter: and buttigieg. >> we know that another group of people that raise a quarter million for him, his quote, national investors circle, he offers them regular phone calls and special access. >> reporter: as elizabeth warren has stalled in the polls, she upped criticism of moderate rivals. >> i am not betting my agenda on the naive hope that if democrats adopt republican critiques, progressive policies, or make vague calls for unity that somehow the wealthy and well connected will stand down. >> reporter: biden insists warren is wrong, telling donors at a fund-raiser if we can't
unify the country, you all ought to go home now because nothing is going to happen except by executive order. >> despite their very different approaches, voters do tell me that they are deciding between elizabeth warren and pete buttigieg, a progressive, more moderate candidate. that's one of the reasons we've seen attacks between these two heating up in recent weeks. pete buttigieg said in recent interview, elizabeth warren is offering purity tests to other candidates like him on the issue of fund-raisers, a reference to the fact that as a senator, elizabeth warren raised money in a traditional way from big dollar donors and transferred that money to her presidential account. >> someone whose voice we didn't hear is senator bernie sanders. he and joe biden are leading the democratic pack in support among nonwhite voters. sanders is surging with latino voters in nevada and super
tuesday states like california and texas. bring in activist grammy award winning rapper, a surrogate for the sanders campaign. killer mike, good to have you here. >> it is render. i don't want my dad to get mad at me. >> mike render. i don't want to mess that up either. sorry to insult you as i introduced you. how dare i. >> not an insult, that's why i said ana, not anna. i pronounced it right. i am proud of myself. how you doing? >> now that we're past the names, let's talk about the state of the race. i want to back up a moment to a couple days ago after the election of conservatives in united kingdom, joe biden suggests that bolsters him against president trump. do you see it as a warning shot to progressive candidates about the party moving too far left? >> i think like the america that dared to stop being colonies and
become a country, we need the most radical, progressive calls we can. be radical and progressive in policy and we need to not trust in this moment fear. we need to not trust saying let's play it safe. i think we need to play the radical idea that formed america. we need to do that right now, push radical policy. i think universal health care is doable. i think wiping away student loans so the next 20 years of students' lives can be invested in making a better america, not just paying debt is good. trade school is good. we have to think that radically to come to the solutions we need as a country to progress. >> that explains why you're backing the candidate that's the revolutionist of sorts and talked about a political revolution. poll after poll, however, shows sanders consistently in second or third. you can argue his supporters lack campaign for the campaign and message, but he has not been
able to grow support beyond the teens. has he hit a ceiling? >> i like to congratulate him being the most growth in south carolina, 7% up in south carolina. he's up against millennials as i see. i hear polls, but you never know who is polling, where they're polling and why. what i know as i walk the streets of america as a musician, on and off planes, young people come up to me, young as 17. i will be 18 by the election, i am voting for him. old as 28 to 35, say he is reenergized, regiving me interest in voting. i left a barbershop full of black people in north carolina. they're intent on voting for sanders and people like him. we want progress and we want it now. i don't see the word revolutionary in mockery because we're here as a result of the american revolution. had not kol niss dared to dream america, we would not be. if sanders doesn't dare to dream
the dreams, we will not have the future that's possible in 20 years. i am with the revolutionary, with the radical policy. >> you're right, he is popular among younger demographic, but at age 78, the oldest of all 2020 candidates, cnn polls show he has single digits support with those 65 and older, not much more than that with 45 and older. historically, older voters tend to be the most reliable voters. does his struggle to connect with them concern you? >> no. i think that a lot of times we vote out of fear, are told what to do by a couple different television stations. i think if young people get out locally, door knock, engage people that are the age of their parents and grand parents, we'll see those demographics change as well. it is time to set fire to the ground locally. the young people that shake my hand in airports and stop me in restaura
restaurants are the young people going out to knock on doors. i don't think we should allow fear to negotiate for us. we should negotiate from a place of firmness, fairness, knowing what's possible in 20 years, not living off the fear of 20 years prior. >> next week is the next primary debate. only one candidate of color qualified, andrew yang. how do you make sense of that? >> i don't use the term color. my grandparents warned me against the term colored. i don't care what color you, i care how policy effects my community. i am black from atlanta. 54% of all african americans live, that's the south. in terms of communities of color, black, latino, other ethnicities, the policies of sanders' campaign, much like the poor people's campaign of dr. king is alive for all people, not just people of color, white
anglosaxon protestants, all people that includes my community, the black community. >> sometimes people assume minority voters will automatically support minority candidates. you're obviously an example of how that's not always true. you support sanders. joe biden, for example, continues to have the most support of all candidates among black voters in places like south carolina. why aren't the candidates of color, minority candidates resonating more? >> i don't have the answer to those questions as i wasn't in their campaign. the campaign i'm with has risen seven points in south carolina. that's sanders' campaign. it is because he is not asking you to vote for him on matters of color or people of color or matters of just being black or matters of being sympathetic to our cause. over 60 years, he was the guy chained to black people protesting 60 years ago, he asks because the policy directly effects our community. how does it do that?
disproportionally health care is not afforded to black and poor people. his policy directly effects that. school to prison pipeline must be ended. his tuition program for trade and college programs helped to end that. we know that we need restorative justice in matters of marijuana, his policy does that. and we need to end, radically end how we deal with prisoners and addiction in this country and he deals with that. >> let's end on a less serious note. you know a little about this. bernie sanders slow jams the news. you're a music producer. listen to sanders' performance, tell me if he has a shot in the studio. >> we all know you got a huge heart. >> no, no. it's a normal sized heart. it's a completely normal, completely fine heart.
feeling good as hell. >> your assessment? >> i would definitely put him on the new album. run the jewels 4, bernie, if you want on, we have a slot for you. >> killer mike, mike render, thanks for taking the time. >> ana, thank you. please have a good day. >> you too. quick note, 2020 candidate andrew yang is joining us for a live interview in the 7:00 eastern hour tonight here on cnn. make sure you tune in. appears the new trade deal known as usmca may be on the fast track. why farmers say its passage is critical to their success next. you're live in the cnn "newsroom." ( ♪ ) at chevy, we're all about bringing families together. this time of year, that's really important. so we're making it easier than ever to become part of our family. that's why our chevy employee discount is now available to everyone. the chevy price you pay is what we pay.
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possible u.s./china deal on the horizon. we visited with farmers in michigan for reaction. >> reporter: it is the morning milking at horning farms. for five generations, 365 delegationdays a year, he has been producing dairy. >> come on, girls. we had cycles in the past where it has been bad, last maybe two years. four years, was almost unbearable, has been unbearable several. >> reporter: with a handshake deal on nafta, usmca, a glamimm of hope. >> i was surprised. getting stuff done in today's congress hasn't been quick, too many political moves rather than action. it will be great. >> reporter: farmers stand to gain from the deal, especially dairy farmers. the united states lost almost
3,000 dairy farms in the last year, among the most, here in michigan, nearly 1 in 7. now, canada agreed to buy more dairy, eliminating pricing models that allowed its farmers to undercut u.s. dairy farmers. >> who is this a win for, democrats, republicans? >> they get it soon enough, a win for the people. >> reporter: president trump flipped michigan in 2016, supported by farmers with the promise he would help with trade. about two-thirds of the state's agricultural exports went to mexico and canada in 2018. >> we're only 40, 42 miles from canada here. our ability to compete with canadian product coming in, imported into michigan, is important. we need to be on a level playing field. >> reporter: jason says usmca is a small victory during one of the most challenging times in farming. but fails to help specialty
farmers like him. >> we do hot peppers. >> reporter: who rely on foreign labor to work the fields. >> if we don't find a way to address the shortcomings in guest worker program, we're going to be nonexistent in three years. >> reporter: lori grows soy and corn, two crops hurt most by the trade war with china. she says usmca is welcome news. >> it is a win, it is not going to be the same size a win as agreement with china would be, certainly it is a significant one. >> reporter: usmca won't solve all of her hardships on her farm, but gives her hope there's an end in sight. >> being able to see this one, which we have been talking about over a year, move forward certainly paves the way to say let's move on to the next step. see if we can take this, replicate it with china. still ahead, will president trump be forced to turnover tax
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for years, president trump has been fighting to keep his financial records private. but now the supreme court says it will hear cases over those documents and decide whether or not trump will have to turn them over. >> reporter: the supreme court will decide by june three major cases concerning whether the house and new york prosecutor can subpoena trump's long time accounting firm and two of his banks for financial documents. the cases decided in the heat of the election campaign. no documents are going forward for now while justices consider the cases. trump has shielded documents on multiple fronts since before the election, and the case has implications far beyond impeachment and the trump era. the house subpoenas in two of the cases go to congress' power to investigate. the house wants documents as they look into trump's finances, foreign interference in elections and hush money. trump says the house has
exceeded its authority when asking for the documents. in a separate case, that goes to trump's claims of absolute i immunity from state criminal proceedings, lower courts cited cases with president nixon and president clinton. after the proceedings are over, what the supreme court grants mean that president trump's legal problems are far from over, they will continue. ariane de vogue, washington. a dramatic rise in anti-semitic attacks in the u.s. and europe. who is behind the websites encouraging this kind of hate? a cnn exclusive up next. tionwid. while some 5g signals go only blocks, t-mobile 5g goes miles... beyond the big cities to the small towns... to the people. now, millions of americans can have access to 5g on t-mobile.
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the fbi recovered a white van with possible connection to a deadly shooting at a jersey city kosher market and is examining the vehicle for potential evidence. meanwhile, new jersey's attorney general says the attack is being investigated as an act of terrorism and hate crime. comes in with an alarming rise in anti-semitism. >> tombstones marked by hate. cultural centers, town halls, schools. in all, 42 anti-semitic attacks in the baja region in 18 months. this cemetery is just the latest to be desecrated. 107 tombs marked with swastikas earlier this month.
although the cleanup operation is under way, for a region as troubled as this one by anti-semitic attacks, the stain will be harder to remove. >> this kind of symbol touch more than you think, part of a family line, auschwitz and to see it here where i live, there is a disease in the society. and everybody would like to stop it. >> not the least, the french government. france interior minister announced creation of a national taskforce. when the graveyard was attacked, it was the french president who came. another case that remains unsolved. a source close to the investigation says locals are believed to be responsible, locals who may have been incited by global websites. while the hunt for the culprits continues, we want to find out
where they're finding encouragement. two sites able to stay online by an american company, white europe shared pictures of the attacks. these exemplary actions that show us the way. reach for comment, white europe told us they stand behind their posts. participatory democracy told cnn while they don't condone the attacks, they believe it is all a jewish conspiracy. both sites celebrating the number 14, a reference to a slogan coined by the late american white supremacist david lane, which was also found graffitied on one of the tombs. both use cloud fair, the american company, that provides protection. both sides celebrate anti-semitism, that in france is
a crime. in the past, cloud flair discontinued services in the wake of el paso mass chuting and american neo-nazi blog stormer. why the different treatment for hate speech that is in french. they have not responded to cnn's questions. cnn also found that facebook which does not allow daily stormer posts to be shared did allow posts from both the french sites until cnn reached out for comment after which it blocked them. twitter allowed sharing from all three sites, told cnn it is taking action to prevent linking to such content. we asked the france interior minister in exclusive interview if the united states was doing enough to help tackle the problem. >> translator: no. my answer is clear. there is a clear difference of culture. it is not about opposing french or european culture to american culture, but clearly on these subjects there's a belief in the freedom to say anything and
everything. i believe that there is no freedom when it is us and our fundamental values being attacked. >> one victim of the latest attack says global action is required in the face of a global problem. >> if we don't have that, you're going to have others. and not just in france. you see it in new zealand, you see it in america, you see it in france. >> a family tomb is among those desecrated, has yet to show pictures to his daughters. >> it is a marking on sacred stone, it is a marking that spells out hate. in this country not me but my family and generations have understood what hate means and what it can lead to. >> in the heavily guarded synagogue in strasberg, the city where much of the jewish
population lives, the chief rabbi says he is not surprised, he fears for more than his community. >> the hate never ends with truth. >> last year, he buried the last jew. he hid during the occupation, escaping camps, dying peacefully in his sleep at 88. with websites celebrating attacks on tombs like his, the question is whether it is in peace that he will now be allowed to rest. melissa bell, cnn. more on historic news from washington. the president one step closer to being impeached. a prediction from lindsey graham. you're live in the cnn "newsroom." when we see you enter through our doors, we don't see who you're against, or for, whether tomorrow will be light or dark,
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