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we're hours away from a seven-way primetime showdown, as the democratic candidates for president prepare for a live tv debate. good morning, everyone. welcome to "early start." i'm dave briggs. >> i'm christine romans. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. if you look at the papers today, waking up to impeached. impeached. impeached. immee impeached. 12-19-19. a twist to the impeachment of president trump. a senate trial now in limbo, put there by a surprise power play by house speaker nancy pelosi. after they voted for impeachment yesterday, she refused to commit to send the articles of impeachment over to the senate for trial. >> can you guarantee that the impeachment articles will be at some point be sent to the senate? can you guarantee that? >> that would be our intention. but we'll see what happens over
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there. >> so, you may not -- >> you're asking me, are we all going to go out and play in the snow? that has not been our conversation. >> she says democrats will make a decision as a group when to send the articles to the senate. congressional correspondent phil mattingly with the latest from capitol hill. >> reporter: christine and dave, for history, the house of representatives has impeached donald trump. two articles of impeachment. abuse of power and obstruction of congress. and donald trump became the third president in history to be impeached by the house. what happens next? we know the senate is the next place for the articles of impeachment to come. we know a senate trial will likely come after that. when are the articles of impeachment being sent over? according to the speaker, that's an open question. >> we have legislation that
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would enable us to decide how we will send over the articles of impeachment. we cannot name managers until we see what the process is on the senate side. and i hope that will be soon, as we did with our legislation, our resolution 660, to describe what the process would be. so far, we haven't seen anything that looks fair to us. hopefully, it will be fair. and when we see what that is, we'll send up our managers. >> reporter: to give a behind-the-scenes explanation, this is in part of a leverage play. mitch mcconnell has made clear, he does not believe any witnesses should be brought forth in a trial. he's willing to have the first stage of a trial take place and if members still want witnesses to come, perhaps hold votes on whether they want to hear from the witnesses. those votes will be on a threshold. republicans have 53 seats in the senate. if mcconnell gets his way. however, mcconnell and democratic leader, chuck schumer, still need to meet. they have a sitdown to agree with what the rules of the road will be.
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schumer has laid out his proposal, saying he wants witnesses. what pelosi is doing, saying she will not send over the articles of impeachment until she has an understanding of what the process will be, whether that process will be fair, is giving chuck schumer a little bit of leverage when he speaks with mitch mcconnell. now, keep in mind, mitch mcconnell will speak in a couple of hours, laying out his view of the next steps forward. pay close attention to that. and pay close attention to whether mcconnell and schumer meet. and pay close attention as to when and whether the articles of impeachment are sent to the united states senate. guys? >> we certainly will, phil. democratic lawmakers lining up to support speaker pelosi's vision. >> senator mcconnell said he is, in effect, the foreman of the jury, is working with defendant's counsel, that's not fair. that's an indication of an unfair -- an intention to have
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an unfair trial. >> i think this tool can be extremely useful. and the weeks ahead, also, give us an opportunity to get more information. there are court cases that deal with access to tax returns. bolton wanted to have a court ruling whether or not he should appear. there's many shoes that can fall. we give nothing up. >> republicans scoffing of the idea. republican leader mcconnell's former chief of staff, josh holmes, tweeted, they're entertaining holding a grenade with the pin pulled rather than facing what will happen sending it over mcconnell's wall. a split-screen moment in history, at 8:34 p.m. last night, president trump on-stage in a rally in michigan, as
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speaker pelosi presided over the house vote to impeachment. the president angrily mocked democrats for wanting him out. >> you're declaring open war on american democracy. you are the ones interfering in america's elections. you are the ones subverted america's democracy. we did nothing wrong. nothing whatsoever. you are the ones bringing pain and suffering to our republic. by the way, it doesn't really feel like we're being impeached. the country is doing better than ever before. we did nothing wrong. we did nothing wrong. and we have tremendous support in the republican party. the president's most vicious attack was at a world war ii army veteran and his widow. boris sanchez explains. >> reporter: dave and christine,
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at over two hours, this is the longest speech of president trump's presidency. trump often times rambling and scathing in his criticism of democrats. it doesn't feel like we're being impeached, reveling in the adoration of his supporters. he was going after nancy pelosi. the senate minority leader, chuck schumer, also attacking hillary and bill clinton. but perhaps the most appalling comments made by president trump tonight, aimed at debbie dingell of michigan, at the death of her husband, former congressman, john dingell, the longest serving congress member until his death. listen to what president trump said. >> they have this dingell. dingell, from michigan. you ever hear from michigan. debbie dingell. that's a beauty. she calls me up eight months ago. her husband was there a long time.
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but i didn't give him the "b" treatment. i didn't give him the "c" or the "d." i gave him the a-plus treatment. take down the flags. why are you taking them down? for excongressman dingell. oh. okay. do this. do this. do that. rotunda, everything. i don't want anything for it. i don't need anything for anything. she calls me up. it's the nicest thing that's ever happened. john would be thrilled. he's looking down. thank you so much, sir. i said, that's okay. don't worry about it. maybe he's looking up. i don't know. i don't know. maybe. maybe. >> reporter: the president taking congresswoman dingell's vote on impeachment and impeachment as a whole very personally. the president saying democrats should apologize for what they're doing to his family. dave and christine?
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>> boris, thanks. congresswoman dingell responding. let's set politics aside. my husband earned all of the accolades after a lifetime of service. i'm preparing for the first holiday season without the man i love. you brought me down in a way you cannot imagine. and your hurtful words made my healing much harder. president trump bringing up his son, barron, by name during that rally while attacking presidential candidate elizabeth warren. >> crazy pocahontas goes to the middle of central park or -- she's in manhattan. you got me. and, people, i would have barron go into central park and he would get a crowd just as large. >> previously, republicans including first lady melania trump criticized the stanford law professor for invoking barron trump during her testimony. the first lady tweeted, a minor child deserves privacy and
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should be kept out of politics. you should be ashamed of your angry and biased public pandering and using a child to do it. nancy pelosi maintaining control of her caucus with a glance and a gesture alone yesterday. >> on this vote, the yeas are 230, the nays are 197, present is 1. article one is adopted. >> pelosi has maintained that impeaching a president is a solemn exercise. democrats were instructed not to cheer. as she announced approval of the first article, some democrats began to clap in celebration. that didn't last long. pelosi quickly waved her hand and shot them this withering glare. neither the cheering nor the glare were repeated when she
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announced the president was impeached on the second article in front of congress. >> that was don't measure with me. >> i told you not to do it and you did it. >> it trended all day on twitter. the impeachment of president trump is sure to be a topic at tonight's crucial democratic debate in los angeles. we're there with a preview, next. most powerful signal. and we want to keep you connected with the new iphone 11. so t-mobile is giving you an iphone 11 on us for each new line of unlimited. for yourself, your family or your small business. keep everyone connected and hurry into t-mobile today, to get up to 4 iphone 11s on us. only at t-mobile. aveeno® with prebiotic striple oat complex balances skin's microbiome. so skin looks like this and you feel like this.
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tonight, seven democratic presidential candidates go head-to-head in los angeles for the sixth and final debate of the year. it's the smallest debate field yet, meaning the candidates will have more time to sell themselves. it's also the least diverse group of candidates so far. cnn's kyung lah has more. >> reporter: dave and christine, the 2020 democratic candidates attempt to turn the page from the impeachment of the president to politics. the sixth democratic debate is taking place tonight. seven of the candidates are here in los angeles preparing for the debate. three candidates will be jurors in the upcoming senate trial. bernie sanders, elizabeth warren and amy klobuchar. joe biden and his son, hunter, at the center of the president's conduct that led to his impeachment. these candidates will be out of
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in washington. so far, we haven't seen anything that looks fair to us. >> an unprecedented move by house speaker nancy pelosi could delay president trump's impeachment trial in the senate. we did nothing wrong. nothing whatsoever. debbie dingell, that's a beauty. >> president trump on the attack, ripping democrats and a deceased world war ii army veteran. we're hours away from a seven-way primetime showdown, as the democratic candidates for president prepare for a live tv debate. good morning, everyone. welcome to "early start." it christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. good morning. >> good morning. a twist to the impeachment of president trump.
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a senate trial now in limbo, put there by a surprise power play by house speaker nancy pelosi. after they voted for impeachment yesterday, she refused to commit to send the articles of impeachment over to the senate for trial. >> can you guarantee that the impeachment articles will be at some point be sent to the senate? can you guarantee that? >> that would be our intention. but we'll see what happens over there. >> so, you may not -- >> you're asking me, are we all going to go out and play in the snow? that has not been our conversation. >> she says democrats will make a decision as a group when to send the articles to the senate. congressional correspondent phil mattingly with the latest from capitol hill. >> reporter: christine and dave, for history, the house of representatives has impeached donald trump. two articles of impeachment. abuse of power and obstruction of congress.
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and donald trump became the third president in history to be impeached by the house. what happens next? we know the senate is the next place for the articles of impeachment to come. we know a senate trial will likely come after that. when are the articles of impeachment being sent over? according to the speaker, that's an open question. >> we have legislation that would enable us to decide how we will send over the articles of impeachment. we cannot name managers until we see what the process is on the senate side. and i hope that will be soon, as we did with our legislation, our resolution 660, to describe what the process would be. so far, we haven't seen anything that looks fair to us. hopefully, it will be fair. and when we see what that is, we'll send up our managers. >> reporter: to give a behind-the-scenes explanation, this is in part of a leverage play. mitch mcconnell has made clear, he does not believe any witnesses should be brought
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forth in a trial. he's willing to have the first stage of a trial take place and if members still want witnesses to come, perhaps hold votes on whether they want to hear from the witnesses. those votes will be on a threshold. republicans have 53 seats in the senate. if mcconnell gets his way. however, mcconnell and democratic leader, chuck schumer, still need to meet. they have a sitdown to agree with what the rules of the road will be. schumer has laid out his proposal, saying he wants witnesses. what pelosi is doing, saying she will not send over the articles of impeachment until she has an understanding of what the process will be, whether that process will be fair, is giving chuck schumer a little bit of leverage when he speaks with mitch mcconnell. now, keep in mind, mitch mcconnell will speak in a couple of hours, laying out his view of the next steps forward. pay close attention to that. and pay close attention to whether mcconnell and schumer
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meet. and pay close attention as to when and whether the articles of impeachment are sent to the united states senate. guys? >> phil, thanks for that. democratic lawmakers lining up to support speaker pelosi's position. >> senator mcconnell said he is, in effect, the foreman of the jury, is working with defendant's counsel, that's not fair. that's an indication of an unfair -- an intention to have an unfair trial. >> i think this tool can be extremely useful. and the weeks ahead, also, give us an opportunity to get more information. there are court cases that deal with access to tax returns. bolton wanted to have a court ruling whether or not he should appear. there's many shoes that can fall. we give nothing up.
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>> republicans scoffing of the idea. republican leader mcconnell's former chief of staff, josh holmes, tweeted, they're entertaining holding a grenade with the pin pulled rather than facing what will happen sending it over mcconnell's wall. a split-screen moment in history, at 8:34 p.m. last night, president trump on-stage in a rally in michigan, as speaker pelosi presided over the house vote to impeachment. the president angrily mocked democrats for wanting him out. >> you're declaring open war on american democracy. you are the ones interfering in america's elections. you are the ones subverted america's democracy.
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we did nothing wrong. nothing whatsoever. you are the ones bringing pain and suffering to our republic. by the way, it doesn't really feel like we're being impeached. the country is doing better than ever before. we did nothing wrong. we did nothing wrong. and we have tremendous support in the republican party. the president's most vicious attack was at a world war ii saying he ended up in hell. boris sanchez explains. >> reporter: dave and christine, at over two hours, this is the longest speech of president trump's presidency. trump often times rambling and scathing in his criticism of democrats. it doesn't feel like we're being impeached, reveling in the adoration of his supporters. he was going after nancy pelosi.
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the senate minority leader, chuck schumer, also attacking hillary and bill clinton. but perhaps the most appalling comments made by president trump tonight, aimed at debbie dingell of michigan, at the death of her husband, former congressman, john dingell, the longest serving congress member until his death. listen to what president trump said. >> they have this dingell. dingell, from michigan. you ever hear from michigan. debbie dingell. that's a beauty. she calls me up eight months ago. her husband was there a long time. but i didn't give him the "b" treatment. i didn't give him the "c" or the "d." i gave him the a-plus treatment. take down the flags.
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why are you taking them down? for excongressman dingell. oh. okay. do this. do this. do that. rotunda, everything. i don't want anything for it. i don't need anything for anything. she calls me up. it's the nicest thing that's ever happened. thank you so much. john would be thrilled. he's looking down. thank you so much, sir. i said, that's okay. don't worry about it. maybe he's looking up. i don't know. i don't know. maybe. maybe. >> reporter: the president taking congresswoman dingell's vote on impeachment and impeachment as a whole very personally. the president saying democrats should apologize for what they're doing to his family. dave and christine? >> boris, thanks. congresswoman dingell responding. let's set politics aside. my husband earned all of the accolades after a lifetime of service. i'm preparing for the first holiday season without the man i love. you brought me down in a way you can never imagine. and your hurtful words made my healing much harder. president trump bringing up
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his son, barron, by name during that rally while attacking presidential candidate elizabeth warren. >> crazy pocahontas goes to the middle of central park or -- she's in manhattan. you got me. and, people, i would have barron go into central park and he would get a crowd just as large. >> previously, republicans including first lady melania trump criticized the stanford law professor for invoking barron trump during her testimony. the first lady tweeted, a minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. you should be ashamed of your angry and biased public pandering and using a child to do it. what insurances does nancy pelosi want before a senate trial? does she gain leverage at all by holding the articles of impeachment? we discuss, next.
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house speaker nancy pelosi refusing to commit to send the articles of impeachment over to the senate for trial. pelosi and chuck schumer supposed to speak later this morning. mitch mcconnell is going to speak in a few hours. we are old enough to remember one merrick garland. presumibly the play is, you'll never be acquitted if we hang on to the articles of impeachment. how much leverage does nancy pelosi have on this one? >> she has little leverage. this is the last card she can play look at it from mitch mcconnell's perspective. he might be thinking, if you don't want to send us the
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articles of impeachment, that's fine. we're going to move on and do the people's business. or he can flip the script and say, i'm starting the trial on this day, we'll acquit on this day and then we move on. he's really got more leverage than speaker pelosi, i think. but she will meet with chuck schumer. she will meet with her democratic lawmakers and see how they can work this last angle here before they do move it on. >> the power play is fascinating and trying to game out what's next. but pausing for a moment, this is a stain on the legacy of the 45th presidency of the united states. only the third president to be impeached. the banner headline on every newspaper in america this morning. last night at 8:34 p.m. eastern time, at exactly the moment the president was impeached by the house of representatives, he was on a stage in aptly named battle creek, michigan, saying --
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there's the split-screen. saying, i don't feel like i'm being impeached. and the country is still remarkably split here, marshall, right? >> yeah. if you listen closely to what he said, it doesn't feel like we're being impeached, does it? >> the royal we. >> the white house is saying what the trump campaign has been saying, ladies and gentlemen, they're going against you, the voters, the people that put me here. and for everybody out there that thinks this is just in washington, don't be so fooled. this is an attack against you, the hardworking american, the forgotten american. it was very much a royal we saying, don't let them do this to us. let's get them next year at the polls. >> listen to all of the testimony yesterday or the statements yesterday. i lost count of how many times the republicans said duly
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elected president of the united states. or 63 million people who voted for him. impeachment is the mechanism for a duly elected president to be held to account. you're right. the strategy for the republicans seems to be this is the president's supporters attack. >> and speaking of the leadership, steny hoyer, accurately pulled out that there were more people that voted against donald trump than for donald trump in 2016. i think there were 65 million that went for hillary clinton. it's weird to count how many people voted for you when you finished second place in the popular vote. all day that you're trying to undo an election. there were a lot of democrats making that same case in the late '90s, trying to undo the
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will of what the voters had done in 1996, putting bill clinton in office. almost just flipped the arguments. promising not to be an impartial juror. let's hear what he is saying now about witnesses being called to the senate and what he said back then. >> i'm not going to support witnesses being called for by the president. i'm not going to support the witnesses being called for by senator schumer. we're going to vote on the same product the house used. >> america needs to hear about this case in some reasonable fashion. that's not too much to ask. they're going to vote and have the courage to let the american people know, not just from sound bytes and spinmeisters, what this case is about. and have the witness called or play what happened today. that needs to be done for everybody to understand what this case is about. >> we don't have to ask you why the about-face.
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that goes without saying. do you detect any strategy from senate republicans when this moves to the senate? yesterday, we heard biblical references to the crucifixion of jesus. and the comparison to d-day 1961. what's ahead for a defense there? >> yeah. will they continue with the grandiose comparisons. we'll see. the strongest strategy they have is stick together. it worked in the house. there were no republican defections last night. and that's the strongest talking point, right? that this is a partisan process. as long as they all stick together, that is a self-fulfilling prophecy. they can keep claiming it's only democrats. the flip-flop from senator graham is pretty obvious. not only, with clinton, there weren't witnesses called in before the senate.
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russian president vladimir putin just spoke about the impeachment of president trump. let's get to fred pleitgen live in moscow. >> reporter: hi, dave. i would call what president putin said is unconditional support for president trump. he said he does not believe that president trump will be removed from office. he said he believes this impeachment is happening for what he call eed made-up reason. he was mirroring talking points from the republicans. he said, for years, they've been looking for reasons to impeach president trump. he called it a continuation of a battle in washington, d.c. saying russian collusion did not work so they're coming up with pressure on ukraine. where was that pressure going to be? that is up to the congress to find out. essentially, what we're hearing from vladimir putin is unconditional support for president trump. and mirroring some of the talk points that we heard from republicans in the debate about
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it impeachment last night, dave. >> fred, thanks. tonight, seven democratic hopefuls go head-to-head. kyung lah has more. >> reporter: dave and christine, the 2020 democratic candidates attempt to turn the page from the impeachment of the president to politics. the sixth democratic debate is taking place tonight. seven of the candidates are here in los angeles preparing for the debate. three candidates will be jurors in the upcoming senate trial. bernie sanders, elizabeth warren and amy klobuchar. joe biden and his son, hunter, at the center of the president's conduct that led to his impeachment. these candidates will be out of public view in debate prep.
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cory booker is in campaigning in los angeles. senator booker and julian castro, candidates, did not qualify for this evening's debate. they have been talking increasingly, how the debate stage, with the exception of andrew yang, will be all-white. no black or latino candidates qualified for this evening's debate. so, what can you expect from this evening? expect separation from moderate candidates, and expect elizabeth warren to mention this -- 200-plus former obama administration and campaign workers have decided to publicly endorse her instead of the former vice president. cnn will air the debate live this evening. christine? dave? >> the pbs news hour politico democratic debate live from los angeles on cnn and your local pbs station. coverage at 8:00 eastern tonight. >> that will be easier to hear what people have to say. thanks for joining us,
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everybody. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. big news out of the republican party and a star in congress maybe stepping aside, right now. the house has voted to make donald trump the third president to be impeached. >> you're declaring open war on american democracy. we did nothing wrong, nothing whatsoever. >> we cannot name managers until we see what the process is on the senate side. we haven't seen anything that looks fair to us. >> this raises the possibility that this could just go on as a standoff between the house and the senate. >> debbie dingell, that'd be a thing. >> to attacking a grieving widow, completely repulsive. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." it is thursday, december 19th, 6:00 here in new york.
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united states president donald trump has been impeached. it happened just before 9:00 p.m. eastern last night. here are the headlines. you can see we have them here as well. >> you can see them from cleveland. >> i mean, this one is the biggest. this is usa today and it says across it, impeached. donald j. trump is the third u.s. president ever to be impeached. the house approved two articles of impeachment spelling out how president trump obstructed congress and abused his power. but then in a surprise, an unprecedented move, nancy pelosi withheld the two articles of impeachment from the senate throwing the timing of the senate's trial into limbo. pelosi says democrats will hold the articles until it is clear it will be fair in the democrats' eyes. mitch mcconnell who has already said he will not be

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