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when no one was watching. this is a special edition of "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is a special holiday edition of "new day." merry christmas, everyone. >> merry christmas. just what everyone wants for christmas. we're going to talk about the latest on impeachment this morning and what we can expect moving forward. also the 2020 race for the white house. where do the democratic primary candidates stand ahead of the iowa caucus now just five weeks away? we'll also talk about building political bridges and coming together during these often divisive times.
>> you're right. that is festive. thank you for that gift. >> it's a christmas miracle. >> this show would not be complete without talking about holiday returns. you will probably get something today that you just hate. >> slacks. no one likes slacks. >> trousers. we have some tips to help you navigate the post-christmas rush. all of that and much more ahead. let's get your check of the news headlines at the news desk. >> good morning. most of us are waking up to a pretty comfortable and mild christmas but a brewing snow and rainstorm may snarl traffic after the hall day. ivy cabrera has your christmas forecast. >> good to see you and merry christmas. you're absolutely right. i think even today california is going to have issues with rain coming in. it's going to be quite heavy in l.a. let me start you with the weather across the u.s. we do have a couple of boundaries that have allowed for some calm winds and also some
moisture overrunning. so we're looking at dense fog advisories. santa has already delivered all presents across the continental u.s., so no issues there. look at atlanta. portions of the ohio valley as well. then we have winter weather advisories for a system lifting to the east. i think today for portions of minnesota and into iowa as well. now, the next system will be getting a brewing in los angeles. this one here again, nothing anything potent or anything we have to worry about. maybe a little shovel of snow. but that would be about it. now, this is a problem. l.a. getting in on the rain. san francisco as well. that's going to come in with wind as well. and with significant snow. and of course what comes in through california will head up to the north and east of that area. we'll continue to see that. but as far as the temperatures, where is winter here? highs in the 40s. we'll take that.
40s southeast. and 50s across the west. i think the worst spot today, california with that heavy rain coming. >> we'll be ready for what comes our way. thank you so much. president trump spending the holidays at mar-a-lago. he attended christmas eve services. the president also spoke to reporters lashing out at house speaker nancy pelosi over impeachment. cnn's kristin holmes is traveling with the president. she is live with us in west palm beach. good morning. what more did he say about nancy pelosi and impeachment? >> reporter: good morning, alison. president trump even though we haven't seen much of him today, he has no public events on his schedule. that's how he'll spend a lot of the holidays. when he's been behind closed doors, little of what we've seen of him, it's been clear what's on his mind. that is impeachment. when talking to reporters, he lashed out at nancy pelosi. he said she hated republicans.
he said she hated every person that voted for president trump. also she was doing him an enormous disservice to this country. the one person he had a lot of positive things to say about is senator mitch mcconnell. we learned mcconnell is willing to bring the senate procedures to the floor for a vote even if he doesn't have the support of senator schumer. so remember where we are right now. nancy pelosi holding onto the articles of impeachment. she has refused to transmit them to the senate until she has any kind of confidence of what a fair trial would look like. democrats and republicans obviously have a very different idea of what a fair trial would look like. so they are at an impasse. however, as i said, now we are learning mcconnell might bring those -- try to bring those to the floor, try to set the rules for the trial without any democratic support. he only needs 51 votes. the majority there, to get that done. now, we have heard that he does
want a bipartisan deal. but that's not going to stop them if he can't get it. something president trump realizes. take a listen to what he said about mitch mcconnell. >> we're in a very good position. ultimately that decision's going to be made by mitch mcconnell and he will make it -- he has the right to do whatever he wants. he's the head of the senate. >> reporter: and on top of that, if you want to note a couple of other things reporters said there, he talked about that threat of a christmas gift from north korea. he said he was ready for anything, that he would handle it. then he said maybe it would be a good gift. it could be a beautiful vase and not a missile test. >> i wonder if he's going to actually get that havase. that would be interesting to see. thanks. and here to discuss more about impeachment and everything else on the table, ron brown. he's a senior editor at the atlantic and a cnn political
analyst. and elie honig, former federal and state prosecutor and cnn legal analyst. thanks so much for coming in on christmas. something tells me -- >> good morning. >> good morning to you. something tells me impeachment is going to be a hot topic at the christmas dinner table, to say the least. which is why we're going to go into more detail, maybe give people more fodder to talk. elie, let me start with you. we're hearing from legal scholars who are arguing if the house doesn't send articles of impeachment to the senate, then president trump hasn't been impeached. but you say that's nonsense. >> yeah, alison. sometimes the answer is just right there on the face of the constitution and contained within our common sense. the constitution gives the house the sole power to impeach. the senate the sole power to try impeachment. that's it. there's nothing in the constitution about there must be a formal transmission or anything along those lines. when was the president impeached? we all saw it. we saw the house get together last week.
we saw them vote. we saw the majority vote for both articles. we saw nancy pelosi bring down her gavel and say the articles have passed. when that happens, he's impeached. law scholars are getting creative here. i get it. maybe it makes for on interesting law review article. in the real world when you have the answer on the face of the constitution, that's your answer. >> ron, what is speaker pelosi's strategy here? do you think it's working? >> well, i think it's their one point of leverage, really, to force discussion of the, you know, remarkable kind of acquiescence of the senate to the white house demands. you know, they don't really have a lot of -- as we've been discussing, 51 votes will set the senate procedures. democrats don't have a lot of leverage to kind of pressure the republican majority into the kind of trial they want to see. the one source of leverage they do have is the ability to focus discussion on the terms of the trial by withholding the
articles of impeachment. now, obviously they have to send them sooner or later because they want the senate to have a trial. but this period really allows them to, you know, the leverage they have is what's happening right now. we're discussing it. we probably would not be discussing it as much if we had sent them over. >> true. if the trump administration and senate majority leader mcconnell are unwilling to work with democrats, what legal recourse or leverage do you think democrats have? >> legally there's almost nothing the democrats can do. they can't go to court and force the senate to do it a certain way. no court would hear that. the senate is a political body and majority rules. beyond that, as ron said, nancy pelosi is trying to exercise whatever leverage she has to try to either "a," work out a negotiated agreement with the republicans where they'll have some witnesses and evidence. or "b," flip for republicans. they're 53-47 right now.
if they can get four to come over, they'll have a majority for the procedures. as we said off the top, president trump is doing his best to try to keep everyone, all the republicans in line and keep that 53-vote majority. really it's going to come down to a question of political leverage more than legal leverage. >> and of course, ron, there is a four get obviously documents and witnesses. one witness who democratic lawmakers would like to get on the stand is john bolton. ambassador bolton sat down with axios earlier this week bashing the trump administration's stance on north korea. what message do you think that sends? >> isn't that remarkable? i mean, you know, the entire country -- we're talking about something of the magnitude of removing a president from office. something we've never done in our history. john bolton by the testimony of his subordinates was deeply troubled by what was happening in ukraine. really the entire country wants and deserves to hear from john bolton on what he knows, what he saw, why he called this a drug
deal. you know, the pressure on the ukrainian president. and yet, he has gone through this kind of elaborate dodge of going to the courts, hiding behind the courts while opining on other subjects. giving paid speeches, talking in interviews about north korea. i mean, if he feels sufficiently liberated to give his opinion about the trump administration policy in north korea, it's astounding given the stakes that he has decided that he will not share what he knows about ukraine and that the senate would be okay with that. you know? real quick, part of the -- the most remarkable thing about this entire episode to me is republicans in congress accepting the idea that the white house would simply stone wall to this extent on both documents and witnesses. there will be another democratic president some day, and this precedent that this president is setting is going to come back and haunt a future republican majority. >> and that is often what happens here. let's wrap up with this. i want to take a step back. it is christmas. ron, is there any chance that
democrats and republicans will be able to come together in the new year? >> you know, i don't think so. it's unfortunate, but, you know, we are living in an era when the parties are polarizing not only because of the leadership but because of the followship. they are representing different americans at this point. the big metros driving economic innovations that are more diverse, more white collar are democratic. republican is on non-metro america. older, evangelical, white america. there is a trench between these two parties. and until we can find leadership that is -- finds a way to kind of bridge that which is not easy to do, i think each side feels much more political incentive to kind of mobilize their own, you know, kind of tribe against the other than to really make concessions across that very bitter divide.
>> so much for a holiday spirit carrying through to the new year. >> sorry i can't be more optimistic on christmas morning. >> thanks so much for your time this morning. happy holidays. >> you, too, alison. december 25th, it's a big day on the calendar. most of the democrats running for president have had their eyes on february 3rd for a really long time. we're going to break down the 2020 race in the run-up to the iowa caucuses next. sometimes, the pressures of today's world can make it tough to take care of yourself. but nature's bounty has innovative ways to help you maintain balance and help keep you active and well-rested. because hey, tomorrow's coming up fast. nature's bounty. because you're better off healthy. of a lifetime. it's "progressive on ice." everything you love about car insurance -- the discounts... the rate comparisons... and flo in a boat. ♪
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the ohio caucuses are a little more than five and a half weeks away. >> i told you they were coming. you didn't believe me. >> now they are almost upon us. you were right. time does march on. 2020 race is heating up big time. will a clear front runner emerge after these first contests? joining us now, cnn political analyst david gregory and abby phillip. merry christmas, you guys. great to see you. answer that question. what's going to happen in iowa? >> you know, i mean, what i think is so intriguing about as we look at the actual beginning of the voting, when voters actually show up and not just us talking about it is how scattered the democratic race may be. the reason why we have these contests. and they have unique flavors to them. we could have different results as we play out. and this could be a democratic race that plays out over time. i mean, you know, you look at that electability question versus who progressives really
like. i think we could be in for something that goes beyond the typical first three. >> you know what every political reporter wants for christmas? something he or she has never seen before. and what could happen here? put up the first four contests here. february 3rd iowa. february 22nd nevada. february 29th south carolina. >> this is the scenario you've been pulling for for weeks. >> a christmas miracle. which would be that three different winners, not impossible in the first four contests. >> but very much likely. i think it is a real possibility given how this -- the dynamic of this race keeps shifting over time. you could see someone win iowa. >> pete buttigieg, for instance. >> you could see an elizabeth warren neighboring state senator win a new hampshire, for example. or a bernie sanders winning new hampshire. or you could see joe biden persisting in south carolina and also even in nevada when you get to the more diverse states.
so this is a real possibility that i hear a lot from democrats. and many of them think that what it effectively does is just prolong this nominating process. some of them are somewhater in vow about that, frankly. they don't want a contested convention. they don't want this to go on any longer than it needs to. but you could have three or four people duking it out all the way through supertuesday states. and just getting almost to the end of this process not knowing who is going to get enough delegates. because ultimately the delegates is what decides who is going to be the nominee for the democrats. >> so play that out for us. if that scenario happens, then it's a foot race to the convention? >> then you get into the influence of money and television with bigger contests. >> you know whose zone that is. >> well, it could be mike bloomberg's if he gains sop traction. but the initial contests are retail affairs because the candidates have been spending so
much time there. they also have characteristics. iowa tends to be whiter, more progressive. new hampshire can benefit people more on home turf, more african-americans which are about a third of the democratic electorate anyway showing up in south carolina. then you go into bigger states and towards supertuesday. a lot of hispanics out in nevada. so yeah. but there's also the dynamic of who starts to win and who starts to battle each other and what voters really want. i think there is this tension of what's the future of the democratic party, what should it be in the post-obama years? and how do we beat trump which is what democrats really seem to be united with. >> there also seems to be a divide between what voters are talking about on a regular basis and what people in washington are talking about. and there are some questions, really, that i think we'll start to see some answers to about whether voters are actually as ideological as some of the party leaders might be. you might have people who are as
progressive as elizabeth warren but who are just as interested in a more moderate candidate because their priorities are different. they're much more concerned about beating donald trump. maybe they're much more concerned about whoever the nominee is being able to appeal to moderate voters once they get to the general election. i think we'll start to see some answers to that as we get into the voting part of the primary. >> i'm only smiling because it's not impossible, again, that you emerge from the first four contests with a complete split. you have buttigieg wins in iowa, warren in new hampshire. so it would be 2-2. then you go to supertuesday or move to the contest which takes more money. one thing that matters is momentum you get from winning contests. and then money. it's momentum and money. and diversity. which is just so different than iowa and new hampshire. those two states we have electing people, virtually no black people.
>> abby's point that goes along with that is wo is the democratic voter? are they as ideological as some of the progressive candidates? you have a lot in warren and sanders a purity test. buttigieg is tying into that as well. >> but the durability of joe biden, hasn't that proven -- >> nobody's voted yet. that's the point. but i agree with you. there has been a return to the middle. maybe it's just, you know, a kind of return to something that's normal. >> familiar. >> yeah. familiar, normal. name recognition. i agree with that. i think there are a lot of voters who look at a sanders/warren philosophy. not just because it can't beat trump but because it's too extreme for the country anyway. we'll get to that more in a general election. but i think that becomes a big factor in these early contests. >> abby, you've been in south carolina and you've been reporting on all of these campaigns so far. one thing that will change is the african-american voter will
start to become an issue. and joe biden has shown incredible resilience among african-american voters. unshakable up until this point. is there something that could budge that? a zb and it gives him a huge structural advantage over these other candidates. not only is south carolina and nevada very important for this reason, but a lot of the states that come after these first four contests are more diverse by nature. and some of it has to do with familiarity. these voters are familiar with joe biden. they don't want to take any risks on those people they don't know. when you're a new candidate like pete buttigieg, for example, you don't have a track record either in washington or just in general on the national stage to point to. it's much harder to make the case to these voters how you are going to be right on their issues. so these candidates have to figure that out. there is no way to win the democratic nomination without
figuring that out. because it is not just south carolina. it's also a lot of these southern states that come afterward. it's california. a lot of the states that come later on in the process require you to appeal to black and hispanic voters. and for that reason alone, even if joe biden loses in iowa and loses in new hampshire, the delegate count is what matters. and he has a major advantage because of his strength with minority voters. >> and the durability and recognizability. you know, joe biden has proven here to fore to be -- he's not a great debater and he seems slow in some respects and older. but you know what? we're imperfect people. the idea there is this purity test that's being applied, the voters may have something different to say about that given their temperament this year. and the other piece you're alluding to, we've seen particularly in african-american
voters, many of them tend to be pragmatic. the polls didn't show barack obama doing that well in south carolina until he won iowa and he could prove he could win white voters. >> and much more moderate than people often assume when you talk about political views. they're in the middle of the party. >> yet at the same time yao seen people like bernie sanders making inroads. it took him quite a long time. we're talking four years now of bernie sanders to be a household name to start making inroads. there are younger african-american voters who are more progressive, who are more open to a warren or a bernie. but a lot of the most reliable black voters, older black women, they are much more politically con seshtive than the rest of the democratic party. and so that's why the moderates -- if you want to be a moderate candidate in this race and win, you have to be moderate not just for the white people and also for the black and
hispanic people as well. you have to be their choice as well. >> in a few weeks i'll do a voter panel on this very thing. the generational divide on black voters as well as ideological. thank you, both, very much. merry christmas to you. all right. you opened it, you don't want it. >> slacks. >> now what do you do? you give it to david gregory. that's what you do. >> his are pleated. all pleated. >> all right. if you don't want to give it to david gregory, we have suggestions for you next. if your gums bleed when you brush, you may have gingivitis. and the clock could be ticking towards bad breath, receding gums, and possibly... tooth loss. help turn back the clock on gingivitis with parodontax. leave bleeding gums behind. parodontax.
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good morning and welcome back to this special christmas edition of "new day." we have a lot to get to this half hour including a discussion of faith and healing during these divisive times. >> also how a group of young survivors turned into activists and inspired change all over the country. >> and many happy returns. we'll help you navigate the post-christmas rush. but first a check of the headlines at the news desk. >> good morning and merry christmas. i'm alison kosik.
christmas day at the vatican. pope francis addressing the crowds in st. peters square and delivering his traditional blessing to the city and the world. the pope prayed for comfort to the beloved syrian people and mentioned conflicts in iraq, yemen, ukraine, venezuela, and several african countries. a christmas break for firefighters in australia battling brushfires. the state's premier paying a visit to the firefighters serving them breakfast and thanking them for their efforts. crews are trying to get the upper hand on more than 70 wildfires. it's not going to get any easier. weather conditions expected to worsen this weekend. check your fridge. hard boiled eggs and egg products are being recalled. trader joe's and walmart products following a deadly listeria outbreak.
voluntarily recalling almost 80 varieties sold by more than 30 brands. among the most popular items? six ounce containers of trader joe's egg salad and 20 ounce container of old fashioned potato salad with use by date of 27th. the music world stunned by the sudden death of grammy winning song writer allee willis. her name may not be familiar, but i'm sure you've heard her music. ♪ ♪ so no one told you life was going to be this way ♪ >> willis is best known for wrids the "friends" theme song. they were inducted into the hall of fame for many hits. willis died yesterday of cardiac arrest. she was 72.
riley howell to died tackling a gunman during a cam pause shooting in april is being honored by his beloved "star wars" franchise. they've created a character described on the "star wars" fan site as jedi master riley howell. >> to us, it's a nice way to round out the worst year of our lives. >> the 21-year-old was a life-long "star wars" fan. a letter to his family from the makers of "star wars" said riley's courage and selflessness brings out the jedi in all of us. i'm alison kosik. now back to john and alisyn. it's the thought that counts. at least that's what they say. but what if you got a gift you really can't stand? or maybe let's just say something you already have. >> slacks. >> slacks, trousers, whatever. christine romans joins us with
tips to make returns easier. >> i think sweaters are dangerous. i mean, i don't know this for sure, but my anecdotal research is the biggest returns are sweaters. >> what about slacks? >> very difficult. how do you know someone's waist? none of those unless you really know the person. returns during the holiday can seem daunting. others have very strict rules that can make returning things frustrating or impossible. here's what you need to know before heading back to the mall. do not open the box. smile and thank grandma, but do not open the box. don't remove the packaging on any gift you don't want especially for electronics. you risk a restocking fee if it isn't intact. keep those gift receipts. and you can remind grandma to give you a gift receipt, but be careful not to throw them out
with the wrapping paper. some retailers are not going to let you return your gift without one. and others may give store credit instead. check return policies in store and online during the holidays. my rule of thumb is is you've got a week or two to get rid of this. they can determine how many times a customer has tried to return items. you might be asked to show your driver's license or another id. it's really an art to giving gifts that people actually want. so here's what's popular this year. clothing and accessories are number one. gift cards are number two. they always are. the national retail federation says more than half of gift givers will purchase three to four on average. toys are next, books, music, movies. top toys this year, barbie still
number one for girls. she always rules. lego still the top toy for boys although legos is on the girls' list too. re-commerce apps have paved the way for brands like thread up, an online thift shop. bottom line there is that people are renting stuff. they're not buying sweaters anyway. so keep that in mind. >> i still wear sweaters from the 1990s. now available in paperback. it's really good. you've got several copies already. >> can i tell you something about the gift cards? the thing i fight with retail analysts about this, there are a big portion that are never redeemed. keep in mind you might be just be giving somebody something they're not going to be using. >> isn't that the game? >> i think that's part of the game. >> but i know the kids these
days, they really like the gift card. >> otherwise you risk buying somebody a present you don't know exactly their tastes. >> but what is the meaning of a gift? it should be something from the heart that shows the person you know them and i love you. does a piece of plastic do that? i don't know. >> i think collage is underappreciated in christmas. >> i could use a planter. that would be lovely. >> yeah. okay. i look forward to getting that from you. >> thank you. >> merry christmas. it's christmas day during one of the most divisive times in the nation's recent history. we'll focusless on what divides us and more on what unites us next. [♪] for powerful relief from cold and flu symptoms without a prescription, try theraflu multi-symptom. theraflu dissolves in seconds, so it's ready to work before your first sip, and absorbs quickly to target and attack 8 cold and flu symptoms fast. try theraflu.
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so the holidays can be a joyous time, but they can also be a source of stress. >> i've heard that. >> especially given how divided the country is right now. for more on what to keep in mind as many americans celebrate christmas, we're joined by father dave dwyer, the host of the busted halo show on sirius xm's catholic channel and cnn political analyst david gregory. father, this is one of those questions we face heading into the holidays. >> it is. >> how do you deal with politics? or how do you talk about politics in a family where you might have divided views as many and to me and forgive me for being cynical here, the answers are either "a," don't. or "b," suck it up and deal with it. >> i would hope there could be some sort of middle ground based in charity, based in love.
the fact we are family first. honestly for some families just setting ground rules when you walk in. okay, can we agree we love each other and everything else can be subservient to that? >> i think that's a nice one. just go in and agree that you're not going to have a political fight that day. >> right. >> i think that works. >> some families may have to say, okay. this is off the table. literally that table. when we're at the table, these topics, no. then after awhile, then we can go at it. >> but this whole topic where you can avoid certain topics. but we were saying before the real challenge in a toxic political environment is how do we, you know -- how do we bring god into it a little bit? which we seldom do. we don't do it in media and daily life. but how do we bring our best selves into it even though it's a passionate fight about politics?
you can't do it in a straight up political analysis or if you're covering a political fight. but in how we interact with each other. how to bring more humility into it. >> you wrote a book. "how's your faith." >> john didn't mention that. >> yeah. right over it. >> is it like a man who wakes up? >> it's not as great. >> but how do you suggest putting god in our conversations if it doesn't come naturally? >> i think god can be a complicated topic for a lot of people. people who don't believe or people who don't like to talk openly about god being a source of inspiration in their lives. but i think for people of faith, i would consider myself one as well as obviously the father, to look for god for inspiration and to help us master our worst impulses. and i think in a time there's toxicity around this and who
we're becoming as a country, i think we look at individual spraxs. our relationships within our families, within our communities. there we can try to find some understanding. there we can go through compassion and listening that maybe can be carried forward. everything is so nationalized thinking about our life instead of looking at you and saying how are you or thank you for doing this for me. those things i don't think matter. >> you are a child of god. you're my son, my daughter. even as you're talking about the other, christmas day will end. maybe the smiles will come off. can we all agree that we are human and we can be charitable and respectful of one another and have a conversation about it. something that i don't particularly agree with, but i'd like to hear what you are passionate about. "i" statements. i feel like this. how do you feel? you just presented two things that are way too absent every day. one, listening. and two, humility. which you brought up there.
it's interesting. because i was asking just how people can get along on christmas day. and you guys rightfully brought in god. i wasn't necessarily thinking i was going to leave it to god. i was hoping to get through the day maybe, you know, with more mundane means. >> well, but more of this is -- if we talk about standing in the flow of grace, remembering that god has expectations for us. and that god inspires us to act a certain way. jesus certainly was the example of that. and i'm a jew and in the jewish tradition you see that. much is shared anyway. to bring it to real terms, it's the holiday season. the challenge of finding god is not listening to your sermon. it's going to the airport. when we feel the most stressed, the most entitled, by the way. how dare you look in my bag. this is where how do we find some patience? how do we kind of get bigger than that particular moment? and this is where i don't think we do a good enough job even in
the realm of politics. i had a senator suggest to me once it's great if you're a person of faith say to an elected leader say this is what motivates me. can that be a common bond? >> the sky club? >> there's a special god club. >> there used to be. >> what's above platinum? >> it's very high. >> this is the cynicism we're talking about. right here. >> but it breaks my heart to hear when families are going home for christmas and sometimes people have told me that they had to make different plans. like, they literally weren't welcome in their parents' house because of a political divide. and if we can't be, you know, humans first and people of faith and family first and then, you know, americans first and then partisan politics, then we kind of got things in the wrong order. >> part of this, too, in judaism we say torah is not up in the sky. it's not beyond our reach. it's in our mouth. it's on our lips. it's something we can live every day. some of the basic kindnesses.
and it doesn't have to sound trite can there be more forgiveness and acceptance of each other. can we be more compassionate. when we're circling around this idea of who are we. again, talk about the president. people say what kind of person are you if you're for the president instead of saying, hey, you know, we may disagree about this, but where are you coming from on this? what about this over here, what about that over there? okay, yeah. we can -- because it's not so much a question about what you believe in. it's a question of who you are. and that's dangerous territory. >> and whether it's the family meal or somebody at the airport, do what psychologists do. ask about themselves. tell me why that's interesting to you opposed to this is what i feel and i don't want to hear about you. >> the other thing you can do which is, you know, do stuff together. find something that you can all do. and i know for a lot of christians that's going to church which we should all do together. but there are other things too. my family, we go bowling. right? >> i play scrabble.
it's great. i mean, i agree that these family games and group games and anything where you have to understand each other and you have to be patient while somebody else is doing something. >> and make it a balance. let's make sure we do some of that. in every family, there's usually some cheerleader saying hey let's play the game. because we know we're going to spend 20 minutes or an hour fighting about politics. okay. let's do that. let's also have fun together. >> we also face in families, we all face tough issues within our families. but that's the -- one of the most important -- it is the most important unit to get right. that's your most important community to work on those relationships and when those relationships can get better, then you think about widening out those circles of communities. >> we would believe in christianity and judaism that the family is the building block of a healthy society. and so if all this is going on around us, we at least have to get this right so we can move out there. >> and it's the absence of some sense of some understanding of each other and respect for each
other. especially believe the absence of faith in the public square. this is an issue. a lot of people are secular. they don't want it injected into politics. i obviously respect that. but if you understand people's motivations -- we don't have faith leaders weighing in on our public debates today. i think that's a critical absence. i think there is cynicism about organized religion, unfortunately. but the absence of those voices does not temper the passions of our politics. i think that's too bad. we talk about this every year at this time. i'd love to see that improve, get more of those leaders of faith talking about politics, coming on "new day" to talk about politics through that prism and not just when we want to have a clear topic about faith. >> father, you said before you were heartbroken about some of the divisiveness. is there any reason to be hopeful today? >> oh, absolutely. there's a great reason to be hopeful today. merry christmas. we believe this was essentially -- forgive me, but it was a new dawn, a new day in the history of christianity when
christ our lord came moamong us and brought to us salvation. that means there's hope for everyone. we can all be redeemed whether it's religiously or just can we redeem our toxic and divisive culture. i believe we can, yes. >> thank you so much. great to have this conversation with both of you guys. merry christmas. >> merry christmas. okay. up next, we'll visit a brother, sister duo who helped inspire change all over the country. 1 in 5 people you meet wear dentures. yeah. that many! but right now, is not the time to talk about it. so when you're ready, search 'my denture care'. poligrip and polident. fixed. fresh. and just between us.
stopping gun violence. two of the people leading that charge david and lauren hogg. they're a brother and sister who survived the massacre by hiding in their classrooms. they've become political and cultural forces inspiring thousands of people including me. here's my champions for change. >> another deadly school shooting. i'm in parkland, florida, this is the site of the deadliest school shooting in the u.s. since sandy hook. when i got the call parkland had happened, that there was yet another school shooting, my heart sank. i have kids i send off to school every day. i know they're no safer than the kids at parkland were. i flew down to barkland. the next morning we were on the air. we're joined by two of the survivors. david hogg was one of my first interviews. >> no legislative action has been taken. we have more guns and more chances for things to go wrong.
>> a senior at the time, he took cover in a classroom during the shooting. and worried about his sister lauren, a freshman. he just gripped the whole country's attention. he turned right to the cameras. he was already beseeching leaders to jump into action with him. >> you guys, like, are the adults. you need to take some action and play a role. work together, come up with politics. >> even in the hours after they'd been through the most hideous tragedy imaginable, they were already trying to change the world. i felt the same way when i met lauren hogg. >> thinking about all the victims. i know there's a reason i made it out that day. that reason has to be to make change. >> but never again hashtag cropped up because they didn't want this to happen again. >> we say no more. >> they've traveled around the country. they've met other survivors of gun violence.
they got the laws changed in florida. they're not letting the lawmakers forget it. what are we looking at here? >> hundreds of crescents and crosses and stars of david, we wrote teacher, doctor, to represent not only the people taken from gun violence but that are taken from society they are in. >> you wanted to get the attention of lawmakers. >> that's why we did it here. when people are walking between breaks, know their inaction is leading for our people to die every single day. >> when you hit obstacles, how is it you have been able to stay energized? >> by looking back at the success we have had, we focused
on youth voter tear down and the voice. >> is it true that the parkland students were your inspiration to run for office? >> absolutely. i was devastated here again we had children the same age as my son that was gunned down. it would be a tragedy if i didn't stand up and i would be letting down my son and his legacy and every other family, every other victim i have cried with over the last seven years. this is the civil rights movement that these young people are fighting for. >> change is here. we need a congress that goes out
the there. >> he's taking a year off to focus on activism. and he plans to attend harvard this fall. honestly how young people have realized their power is the thing that i find to be the most profound. >> they are change makers. i see them changing things and being leaders in our country. >> hast hard to think of myself as an activist. i never had that in mind when i started speaking out. i just was a kid who was upset that my friends were murdered in my school.
>> what's been your greatest achievement? >> showing we can lead together with other generations. i know we can end this issue. >> i'm just so impressed with these kids. all of us thought maybe this will peter out. maybe they'll have to be busy with school. but they haven't. they're just as strong a year later. just as much as the day i met them. they're inspiring. some people get paralyzed after something so painful and so much grief. and they didn't. >> we need to remember they're dealing with grief still. >> and they were teenagers. i mean, they were kids. they shouldn't have had to have dealt with all this stuff. as i pointed out, they just
swung into action. there wasn't a second where they thought we're going to just first attend to our grief. then figure out what to do to help the country. they swung into action. >> so it has been a frenzied month/year/many years. and the political drama will not let up up if the next few weeks. the special christmas edition of "new day" continues right after this.
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