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all right. good friday morning. everyone. i'm poppy harlow. jim sciutto has a well-deserved day off. we have a lot of news today. the president is clashing with the intelligence community as we're learning russia is already taking steps to interfere in the 2020 election in an effort to help get president trump re-elected. hacking, lawmakers briefed about this last week. and the fact that that happened angered the president who says democrats will just use it against him. and he took it all out on the acting director of national
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intelligence, joseph maguire, for letting that briefing happen at all. and for briefing congress before briefing him. maguire is now being replaced by a trump loyalist, richard grenell. a lot of twists and turns in this story. and new reporting from our dana bash who joins me now with this. >> good morning. >> let's walk through this step by step. it's important. the big picture here is that the intelligence community briefed congress on this and what did they say? >> we have more details about what went on during what we already heard was a pretty explosive briefing. and what i'm told is the following. first of all it was comprehensive about how foreign interference is going on as we speak with the american election. and that specifically, the briefer said, not once, but twice that the observation in the intelligence community is that russia has a preference for donald trump. this is according to a source familiar with this. the source said the briefers
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were not ambiguous about that. and just to be clear, the fact that they were not ambiguous is based on the assessment that they have. the intelligence community never says point blank, a, b or c. this is based on the assessment. so there was a shock among a lot of the members but particularly republicans. i am told that will hurd, who has a background in intelligence, was an intelligence officer, said to the ranking republican devin nunes, i need some time to ask questions what what will hurd said was the briefer, how do you know this? can you give us any information? how many reports said this? and the answer by the briefer was that they do not have the underlying data. they just had the assessment. >> for people at home hearing this, the question i would be asking is, how can you assess something without the underlying data? and as i understand from your reporting, the democrats in the room said this is so politically
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explosive, controversial, we need to see the underlying data. >> precisely. and that seemed to be, even though this is very partisan, from what i'm told, that was a bipartisan request. obviously, things got very heated. very, very hot in that room because of the questioning, because of the desire to see why they came to this -- not conclusion, but assessment about russia being preferring president trump. and the answer is they didn't have it at their fingertips. and so that is something that -- >> the briefer didn't have it? >> which in fairness, the briefer is not unusual. they come. they are required to brief key members of congress, key committees on issues like this, particularly intelligence issues. and what they have is the assessment that is put together by the intelligence community on any given issue. and that's what happened here. >> one of the arguments that we -- that your reporting is,
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and the times reflected this a bit last night is republicans, including chris stewart, vehemently stating over and over, how can that be? their assessment is, look at all of these things the president has done to be tough on russia. there's another side to that where he is not, syria, for example. >> and i'm told the same thing. chris steward and other republicans who are on the committee in this briefing, you know, raised their hand and raised holy hell saying this doesn't make any sense. the president has been tougher on russia than anybody else to which the democrats said, okay, this has now become a partisan discussion that shouldn't be happening in here, in this forum where we are getting an intelligence assessment. let's go back and take a breath. >> step back for a moment and talk about why this all made the president so angry because this is the house select -- this is the intelligence committee. they, by law, are required -- >> exactly. >> -- to be briefed regularly by the intelligence community.
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is the president upset that they were briefed at all? is he upset that they were briefed before him? is he upset that adam schiff got this information as the chairman of the committee? >> our understanding is that it's the last thing you said. look, in the words of maggie haberman, adam schiff is a trigger for donald trump and that is true. it's obvious. he was the lead antagonist during impeachment. impeachment was investigated in his committee. they didn't have a good relationship to start with. and it's terrible now. but the fact of the matter is he's the chairman of the intelligence committee and impeachment or politics aside, this is a very important issue. and so, yes, he -- our understanding is the president was upset about adam schiff getting it because he's worried, given the context in what we just went through that schiff will use it, not to figure out a governmentwide strategy to combat russia, no matter who they have a preference for, but to use it as a political weapon.
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one other thing to add here is that jake tapper has some reporting that the -- part of the concern in -- according to a source he talked to is that the notion that russia has a preference for donald trump isn't as clear cut in the intelligence as perhaps this briefer shelby pearson communicated to the house intelligence committee. and that might be part of what's going on and part of the explosive nature of this. >> are they going to, behind closed doors in a classified setting, get the underlying data? >> good question. i don't know the answer to that. given where we are now and how this all spilled into the open, it's hard to imagine they won't. underlying intelligence data isn't always that easy to read. and, you know, they probably -- the answer is, it's hard to imagine they won't ask for it, and certainly members of the intelligence committee, they
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understand the basics. people like will hurd who i'm told, again by a source, asked exactly the right questions and didn't get an answer that was satisfactory. frankly, in a bipartisan way. >> of course. dana, stay here. let's also bring in our national security analyst juliette kayyemm and lisa laird. what is your assessment? >> it's terrific reporting. and i think it would be helpful to explain the role of the odni. this was not the gang of eight. you'd not anticipate they'd get sources and methods. that would threaten the intelligence of, say, cia assets or others. what the odni does is takes a couple dozen intelligence agencies around the government from the coast guard to the defense department, merges them into an assessment and sets two things. sets priorities and potential policies regarding that intelligence. so it sounds like they put together a bunch of materials,
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presented it to the larger subcommittee for the house intel and house intel wanted more at this stage. i will say one thing. assuming everything is accurate and that maybe the assessment was stated too clearly. it's not at all clear the russians want trump. donald trump's reaction is something that the russians are watching because donald trump's reaction was not, let me see the sources and methods. his reaction was, i want maguire out. that tells the russians one thing which is, of course, we're going to keep doing it. >> and lisa, to build on juliette's good point, it's maguire out, grenell, a staunch loyalist in for now, and, oh, maybe another loyalist of mine, congressman doug collins who doesn't have intel experience should take this job. now doug collins said on another network this morning he doesn't want the job. he wants the senate seat open in georgia. that's a tough interparty fight there.
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what does it tell you that the president is eyeing him for this? >> i think the president's reaction to this is fairly predictable. we've seen this happen before. whenever talk of russia getting involved in the election comes up, the president takes it intensely personally and sees it through the lens of his own election and questions about legitimacy of that, of his victory. so that's a well-known fact here in washington and probably across a lot of the country, too. and it's so well known that we even reported in "the new york times" that some of the briefers, people in the intelligence committee, later said to the briefers that they should have delivered the message perhaps a little less bluntly knowing that, of course, it was likely to leak because a lot of things from congress leak out and that was likely to trigger the president as dana said earlier in the program. so i don't think his reaction is particularly surprising. particularly in this moment where he's coming after impeachment -- coming out of impeachment and really battering down the hatchs and putting loyalists in a lot of positions.
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>> let me ask you about one detail that was interesting near the end of "the new york times" piece on this last night. in terms of where we go from here. they report this. we can put it on the screen. since the impeachment inquiry, tensions have risen between the office of the director of national intelligence and the committee as officials navigate these disputes. the intelligence agencies have slowed the amount of material they provide to the house. this is the times reporting, according to mu ing ting to mul. that's significant it's f that's happening. we have a member coming on next hour and i'll ask him about that. if this critical information is getting slowed down to these relevant committees for political reasons, that's alarming. >> it's the real world ramification of the partisan arena that we're in but more importantly, of impeachment. it just is. things got so incredibly toxic and still are toxic because,
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again, it was the intelligence committee which, you know, i guess you can say historically isn't the one that does impeachment inquiries. it's the department of justice but because of the nature of what they were looking at, ukraine, and because, frankly, nancy pelosi really likes adam schiff and he's a good prosecutor. she put them in charge. and now we're past that and we're in a situation where the election is happening. the intelligence community, whether it is, you know -- the assessment is clear cut or not that they're trying to help donald trump, they're meddling. and i'm told this briefing was much more broad than just that. it was about the infrastructure and every other aspect of voting and the basic democratic function that foreign governments, including and especially russia, are trying to do. and if the congress, which again by law is supposed to be informed of this and help come up with a strategy to fix it and they're not told about it, that's terrible.
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>> this should not come as a surprise, guys, to the president. i mean, christopher wray, the lead to the fbi, testified to this in july. testified again saying just as much a month ago. listen to the former director of national intelligence james clapper who was on last night. >> this is not a big surprise, but it illustrates the tremendous challenge the intelligence community has where they are teeing up facts that our president doesn't want to hear. and with the result that the messenger got shot in the form of joe maguire being asked to leave. >> so what are the real world consequences when that messenger is someone who may very likely toe the line of the president when maguire is out. >> i mean, i sort of think of this as three audiences. the first is, of course, the briefers themselves. and their willingness to tell
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donald trump what's going on in the world. we're not just talking about election security. we've got terrorism and war and all sorts of issues that, if you are the briefer, you don't want to get fired but you also want to provide information. the second is that trump clearly only wants to hear things he wants to hear. there's a real world out there that donald trump has to sort of look at, which is not going to -- not consistent with the world that he wants. so he -- that gap creates, i think, risks for all of us. the third, i want to say, is us. we are the beneficiaries of the intelligence agencies. they protect us, whether it's election security and how we vote and whether we're going to be able to vote in a meaningful manner or what's happening to our kids with the pandemic or the rise of white supremacy terrorism, we are the audience for the intelligence agencies. the american public. they're never even discussed by the president. our needs, our protections, our
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families and communities are never even discussed by this president. >> yep. juliette, thank you. lisa leher and dana. candidates blitz nevada before the crucial test before tomorrow. the nevada caucuses. another battle for much-needed cash to keep these campaigns going. also we're outside of the courthouse in new york again this morning where disgraced movie mogul harvey weinstein is still awaiting the verdict from the jury in his sex crimes trial. when cravings come on strong,
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all right. right now the 2020 race is heating up as democrats make their final pitch before the nevada caucuses tomorrow. almost every candidate on the trail out west. the majority of them focusing on sin city, las vegas. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren not letting up on her attacks on new york city's former mayor michael bloomberg. withny talk about the strategy is the former campaign manager for hillary clinton and david
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swerdlick from "the washington post." happy friday. patty, look, this is what warren needed, right? she took out this $3 million line of credit. now she's got this huge cash infusion. she nailed that debate, if you ask anyone who is pouring money into her coffers right now. what do you make about what she said in cnn's town hall that she's drafted a contract that would release the women from the ndas they signed with bloomberg? >> yeah, well, listen, she really had a great night on wednesday night at that debate as you said. she, you know, she clear out won it. and she did it by eviscerating michael bloomberg and did it in such an effective way, particularly on the nda issue. and what she, you know, and it worked. it spiked her fund-raising numbers. it spiked her earned media. everybody was talking about it. what she did is she doubled down on that strategy. she saw that it worked, and she doubled down. and we'll see whether or not it
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will actually help her in nevada. 75,000 people already voted. it could be too late for nevada, but moving forward, let's see what happens for her. >> what does she need, david, in nevada to get off life support for her campaign? >> good morning, poppy. i think senator warren just needs to come in main first, second or third. she would obviously like to come in first or second. she's got more money now. i think she can parlay a third place finish even into a better finish in south carolina. but in south carolina then she'll have to do really well first or second because by the time we get to super tuesday on march 3rd, she will be at a disadvantage in terms of money compared to mayor bloomberg and she'll also be campaigning in a number of states where she can't do that face-to-face, handshaking and baby kissing that she has become very good at. i think one thing that she wants to, do i agree with patty, she evaseerated, as the kids say,
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thee ethered bloomberg on wednesday night and reinforced it with that nda last night but now she wants to get back to her core message. >> i think people want to hear more from bloomberg. good thing that he agreed he's going to do this cnn town hall ahead of south carolina and he'll get to take some questions from the voters, right, and hear more, not just the ads he pays to put out there. turning the page to the biden/bernie sanders battle, it's interesting that i have noticed we've seen the vice president himself and also his surrogates really start to focus on bernie sanders' record on guns. and the fact that, yes, he did vote against the brady bill five times and he did vote so that there would not be liability for gun owners. that was my constituency that i was representing in my state. is that a smart tactic heading into nevada and south carolina for him? >> absolutely it's a smart tactic. in fact, you know, he should have been doing thichs ears muc
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earlier in the process. bernie sanders is now, as we speak, the clear front-runner in this race. and the idea that nobody on that debate stage on wednesday night really went after that front-runner and instead went after bloomberg only lifted sanders up even more. so the fact that joe biden is now taking this on is great for him and probably good for the rest of the field in all honesty. but again, is it too late and too little at this point? nevada is tomorrow. if bernie sanders comes out victorious, again, this would be his third win in the popular vote. will that momentum sort of have him do even better in south carolina? joe biden needs to win south carolina to stay viable in super tuesday. >> what do you think this week has meant, david, for mayor bloomberg when it comes to the up swing he had been seeing in african-american support nationally? is he going to hang on to that
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now? >> well, i think the next week or two will tell us. he's got a ton of money. $100 million is a rounding error for him. he's put in $400 million so far. he can put in another $500 million, $600 million and not have even spent or spent just a little over 1% of his net worth. so he can buy that name recognition. keep running those ads that show president obama praising him even though president obama has endorsed him. and to voters who haven't locked into this race yet it does present a good message for him. but that was blunted in this debate. he's now going to have to do this town hall with cnn, go out there and actually campaign a little more face-to-face with the voters. but because of money, he's not out of this yet. i just want to say one thing. i half agree with patty and half don't, poppy. on the one hand, yes, the candidates have to go after bernie sanders. on the other hand, i think they all realize they're not getting his voters. even senator warren. so i think they want to go after
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the other candidates' voters. >> thank you both. have a good weekend. we'll see what shakes out tomorrow. david, patty, appreciate it. let's look closer at the biden camp. thrilled to be joined by symone sanders. good to have you here. what's a win for you guys in nevada? >> i think a win for us would be coming in very close in the top of the bunch. we have been campaigning hard in nevada. i was listening earlier to the program. over 75,000 nevadans have voted early. early vote was three days. we were pounding the pavement hard. vice president biden did a lot of early vote events. high-fiving people as they went to the polls. we feel good about what's going to happen on saturday. you have to see what happens when the caucus closes, whenever that is. >> let's just hope we get results right away and there's no iowa. >> i won't hold your breath. >> when it comes to south carolina, it's just been so important for you guys coming up on the 29th. the former vice president said he's going to win nevada.
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he's going to win south carolina. said this a few weeks ago. one politico reporter, one of the other senior advisers on your campaign said we're going to win south carolina. if we don't, we're done. is that right? >> well, poppy, we intend to win south carolina so we will not be done. i'm here in the state right now. i'm in greenville. i'm heading up to gaffney soon for a meet and greet. what i've seen on the ground is our organization is strong. people are engaged. we had about 3:30 p.m. yesterday, almost 65 folks coming out in the middle of the day in pickens county with a threat of a hail storm. so i will say folks are primed and ready for vice president biden's message. they know the stakes of this election. we think we'll be victorious on february 29th. >> talk about the african-american vote. it's been so crucial and that support has been so important for the former vice president. in that quinnipiac poll in the last week and a half, it showed
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his national support among african-americans has fallen 20 points from 49% to 27%. this is as mayor bloomberg has seen an increase in african-american support. are you worried to see that decline amongst such an important voter set for him? >> well, poppy, one it's just one poll but we're not taking any votes for granted. the reality is vice president biden does have a strong relationship, strong ties and history with african-american voters across this country. but we are still working for every single vote. i think that the dynamics of this race have been up in the air for a long time. people are getting in and getting out. but i think the thing that has remained constant is vice president's commitment, his relationship with voters, voters know him. he knows the voters. and i think that's why he has continued to lead. and so going into -- we have another debate next week right here in south carolina. and i think that will be another opportunity on the debate stage for vice president to speak directly to the voters. african-american voters
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especially, and why he is the best choice to be the democratic nominee. >> i'd like to dig into something and see if i can get an answer on it that i wasn't able to get previously with one of your colleagues on the campaign. and that is the vote that the former vice president made when he was a senate in '96 in favor of welfare reform. as you well know, that ended the social security administration's cash assistance program. it changed it into tanf. and the reason i ask you that is because when you look at the center on budget and policy, they dug into these numbers. and they have found that the declining reach has disproportionately adversely affected black americans. for years now. does he still think that was the right vote, symone? >> well, i think what vice president would say is look at the totality of his record and what he has done. >> i like having you on because you are straight with me. and i just want to know how he feels in his heart. was that the right vote in '96?
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does he regret it or stand by it? >> i will have to be honest. i have not asked vice president biden specifically about this vote but i can tell you what he feels and what he thinks about what has hand. and i think if we look at the most recent budget, what the trump administration has done, if we look at what some other folks who have gotten into this democratic primary have done in terms of suggesting to test folks who are eligible for food stamps. that is not something that he is in line with that he believes in. vice president biden believes that we should be doing the most to ensure that everyone has a shot at the middle class in america. that includes poor people where they are black, white, latino, asian american, pacific island or otherwise. and the reality is that the trump administration has failed on that front andlected preside do everything to turn that around. >> final question to you. he's run for president three times. obviously, he ran in '88, 2008,
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now. he's never won a single primary or caucus. if people look at his performance in iowa and new hampshire and they he may not be the most electable candidate, what do you say? >> it's ghot who can win iowa and new hampshire but in places like pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. electability is about the totality of your plans. about bringing a broad coalition together. and i think vice president biden hits that mark. and the last thing i'd tell those folks. i remember bill clinton who did not win -- only won one of the first 11 contests in 1992. >> fair enough. >> and went on to be the democratic nominee and the president of the united states of america. we've got a good shot here. >> symone, good have you. our special live coverage of the nevada caucuses starts tomorrow at 2:00 eastern right here on cnn. ahead for us, the nation's top intel officials have been warning since the last election that russia would do it again. meddle in this race.
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intelligence officials briefed lawmakers and told them russia's doing it again, interfering in the 2020 election this time with the goal of getting the president re-elected. haven't lawmakers been warned about this? >> we assess that foreign actors will view the 2020 u.s. elections as an opportunity to advance their interests. >> the russians are absolutely intent are trying to interfere with our elections. we certainly are seeing and have
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never stopped seeing really since 2016 efforts to engage and malign foreign influence. >> vivian joins me. welcome to cnn. i've followed your reporting for a long time. good to have you here, especially right now. we're months away from the election, and russia is at it again. this time trying to get with the clear preference is the reporting with the president. why is the president upset that the relevant committee was briefed about this? >> this is something that's gotten under president trump's skin for years now. and we know this because he has called out other officials over time for talking about election interference without really clarifying, in his words, that it didn't actually lead to his victory. so he wants to say okay, fine. maybe there was russian meddling, although he's been skeptical about that. but i didn't win because of that. i won fair and square. so this is something that is really irritating for the
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president. and he has called out again, a number of officials. h.r. mcmaster. he tweeted about him one time when he gave a speech about russian meddling and said he forgot to mention i won fair and square. this is a pattern we've seen over time where he casts doubt over a lot of the findings when it comes to russian election meddling but also calls out officials and also sometimes repercussions because those officials speak out. >> remember when the president met with putin in june and it appeared to joke about even the possibility of election interference again. listen to this. >> for people who couldn't hear that, he said, don't meddle in the election, please, as he's sitting next to vladimir putin. what is your reporting on how seriously the president takes these threats beyond, i know he didn't like the way the message
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was delivered. >> oh, he definitely does not agree with it. to certain levels. and he said even in his first meeting with president putin of russia in helsinki where he was asked again alongside putin and he said, well, he told me he didn't do it and so i believe him. and so this is, obviously, something that riles the intelligence community and his own advisers who go out repeatedly saying that this is an obvious threat. it was a threat in 2016. it's going to be a threat in 2020. and it's a real process here because it's not just, you know, a threat to physical infrastructure, election voting machines and registration and actual election night results. and you have the entire intelligence community trying to take on the battle which is just colossal in terms of fighting that disinformation. but you also have the private sector, the facebooks, the twitters and everyone like that who also have to get on board and try to fight it. and then the president who is casting doubt on the whole
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thing. so it's really been something that has dis -- really unsettled the intelligence community because they need their commander in chief to lead the way on this. >> indeed. vivian, thanks for the reporting. appreciate it. ahead for us, jurors in the harvey weinstein trial wrapping up the week with a shorter day of deliberations. day four. are they going to reach a verdict finally? will take you down in the dump. after several denials, when i went to aspen dental, they gave me a free exam, free x-rays. the doctor comes in and then he's like, "you are in pain, so we're going to get you taken care of." i had no insurance. at aspen dental, we're all about yes. like yes to flexible hours and payment options. yes to 30% off dental services. and yes we'll take care of you, no matter what. call 1-800-aspendental today.
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whether or not weinstein spends the rest of his life behind bars. let's go back to jean casarez. she's outside of the courthouse here in new york city. so, jean, the injury has focused several questions that they've sent in on actress annabella sciorra. can you explain why those questions about her are so crucial? >> she's very important. she's within the predatory sexual assault charge. her own charge as an individual is out of the statute of limitations. it was 1993-94 but a nuance in new york law allows her to help bolster the prosecution's case for one of the fresher accusers. 2006-2013 to lend for a conviction on that he is a predator which is potentially a felony. but annbella sciorra. 1993-94, she was a very blooming actress. already appeared in a weinstein film. she was at a dinner that night
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for miramax and harvey weinstein asked if he could take her home. he'd done that before. nothing happened. his driver dropped her off with harvey in the car at her apartment, a very ritzy apartment. she went up to the 17th floor where her apartments were and about 30 minutes later there was a knock on the door. she answered the door and it was harvey. he pushed his way in and he pushed her on the bed and raped her. she remember s blacking out and waking up at some point. on cross-examination it was you live in 24-hour door building. did you get a call harvey was coming up? no. had you given harvey your apartment number previous to that? no. and so there's an open-ended question. no evidence showing if he got up there, how he got up there. also her story had changed a little bit. cross-examination brings that out. >> jean, thank you. they are going to have this all
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reread to them today. and we'll see what it means for a verdict. we appreciate your reporting. ahead for us, michael bloomberg is pressing forward as allegations of racist tactics and also sexist remarks turn the heat up on his presidential run. i will speak with a pastor and longtime supporter of his about all of this, next. ♪ sifting through a hundred cards, ♪ ♪ you try to find the words say it with a taco pun, ♪ ♪ or maybe with some birds? ♪ maybe this year just leave the cards behind ♪ ♪ give her something that will stand the test of time ♪ ♪ make the moment mean more. ♪ jared.
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economically powerfully influenced my values. bernie sanders he's fighting to raise wages. and guarantee health care for all. now, our country is at a turning point. hard working people, betrayed by trump, struggling to survive. in this moment, we need a fighter. bernie sanders. we know he'll fight for us as president because he always has. i'm bernie sanders and i approve this message. attacks on stop and frisk not stopping. presidential candidate mike bloomberg continuing to take a lot of heat for that controversial policy while he was mayor of new york city.
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listen to former vice president joe biden taking him on at cnn's town hall last night. >> the way he refers to people of color, and the way he refers to -- i'm not even going to repeat the language he used about why he was doing this. >> well, joining me now is reverend a.r. bernard, founder and pastor of the church in brooklyn city. good to have you. >> good to be with you. >> thank you for being with us again. we enjoyed it last time. that's biden's attack. and then i want you to listen to what elizabeth warren said during the debate attacking him and get your reaction on the other side. here she is. >> listen very closely to the apology. the language he used is about stop and frisk, it is about how
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it turned out. now, this isn't about how it turned out. this is about what it was designed to do to begin with. >> are they right that he should still take heat and his apology doesn't go far enough? >> i think heat is part of the political process. however, i think mike missed an opportunity during the debate to point out that joe biden was one of the authors of the '94 crime bill. and bernie sanders voted for it. so now you have two individuals who are attacking him about stop and frisk, but the genesis of stop and frisk goes become to the crime bill, which is a reaction to high crime coming out of the epidemic of the '70s. that led to racialized, aggressive policing, it led to more sentences, the building of more prisons, 21 prisons in the united states, and it led to the mass incarceration of black and brown young men. >> it is a fair point. you clearly weren't his debate prepper. but i wonder, you know the man so well, you were the first endorsement his campaign put out
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in 2009 in that race again for new york city mayor. why do you -- you know, why didn't he punch back? >> i think that -- i don't know. i don't know how he was prepared, you know, for the debate, what happened. but, look, we need to put it into perspective. stop and frisk, the crime bill, this is all part of a larger, broader problem within american society that goes back 140 years. we're talking about racialized policing and racialized criminal justice system that needs to change. i think michael bloomberg has the means to change it, the motivation to change it. and he's looking for the opportunity. >> when he was given the chance to talk about it more in the debail, criminal justice reform, he said one line about it. here it was. let's play it, guys. >> we have got to make sure we do something about criminal justice in this country. there is no great answer to a lot of the problems. >> that's it. >> yeah. and i think he is still working through what are the answers?
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if we, here it is from 1970s, that led to the '94 crime bill to where we are today with 2 million african-american and latino young men in the prison system, at the state and local level predominantly and still trying to figure it out, why did we put it on him i. i'm not defending him. >> are you here tone dor endors bloomberg? >> i not endorsed anyone yet. bernie sanders is on top. what would a bernie sanders presidency look like? is america ready for those extremes? extremes appeal to the emotions, and when he said that it is immoral to beat a billionaire, you know, i was taken aback. how much money can we make? who determines that? he is talking about a fundamental shift in the american -- >> he is and he owns that and has a different view of what capitalism should be than mike bloomberg. what do you say to people who
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you're not ready to endorse mike bloomberg yet. >> i'm continuing to listen to his plans, his strategies, his programs. you take the green bill initiative looking to bring economic empowerment to the community. i think america is looking for a president who is going to continue to keep the economy strong and bring economic opportunity to everyone, black and brown individuals, women and blue collar white workers in america. >> final question, should mayor bloomberg release those women or men from any ndas they have with him, if they want to tell their story? yes or no? >> i can't say yes or no. i don't know if all of those nondisclosure agreements are between bloomberg personally -- >> from the ones he can, fair enough, from any ones he can with him, is it right to let the voices be heard when you're trying to be president? >> i think he has to respond to that. if it means le s letting the vo be heard, then -- >> yes or no, should he say yes?
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>> i don't know. i think he's going through a process. he went through it with stop and frisk. let's see what happens with this. >> good to have you. thank you very much. you're going to hear from more from mayor bloomberg and the candidates, join the next town halls days before the south carolina primary on super tuesday. the top 2020 democrats will join us including this time michael bloomberg. it is monday and wednesday night live from charleston and only right here on cnn. russia's at it again. the intel community's top election security officials warn lawmakers russia is meddling in this election to try to help president trump win and the president is furious. that's ahead. also, the windsors, king george vi never wanted the throne, but he must lead england through its darkest hour. watch sunday night 10:00 eastern on cnn. i'm alphonso, and there's more to me than hiv. there's my career,... my cause,... my choir. i'm a work in progress. so much goes... into who i am.
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good morning. top of the hour. i'm poppy harlow. jim sciutto has the day off. after the briefing, the backlash, top intel officials warn lawmakers that russia's at it again, trying to interfere in the 2020 election in an effort to help the president get re-elected and we're learning the president was irate with his acting spy chief for that briefing that he later replaced him with a loyalist as we know, a loyalist with no intel experience. we're also learning that the president was upset that he had to learn about this after the fact from his ally devin nunes on the intel committee. dana bash is here and has extensive new reporting on all of that this morning. so good morning. >> good morning. >> for our viewers just tuning in and learning about this, they know that the intel chief is on the way out, now they know the president is very upset that the relevant committee was even briefed on any of this. >> right and what we're


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