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very good friday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. just hours from now president trump will travel to south dakota for an early fourth of july celebration at mt. rushmore. thousands are expected to -- to attend, but the state's republican governor has already promised that people will not be social distancing and will not be required to wear a mask. the science shows, and that's what we focus on the science, that those measures are the most effective way we have to fight this pandemic, keep the virus from spreading and now growing fears we could be in for another super spreader type situation this holiday weekend just like we saw on memorial day weekend, and that's in the numbers. right now, 36 states are seeing a rise in infections, the country setting a new single-day record for new cases. the president says this is about
increased testing, it is not, because we're seeing increased positivity rates, a greater percentage of people testing positive. we are live across the country. first let's go to boris sanchez in clearwater, florida. boris, pivotal next couple of days there. i know folks love to go to the beach this weekend, and, boy, i would love to go to that beach right behind you. we all do. what is the state doing now to control that and keep people apart? >> reporter: well, jim, it really depends on where you are. we got the news within the last hour that the state of florida now leads the nation in the average number of new coronavirus cases per day. yesterday reporting more than 10,100 cases in it the sunshine state, aard a obviously. it actually has only been eclipsed by one state and that's new york back in april when the wave of cases was cresting there, and governor ron desantis is effectively leaving it up to local leaders to decide what restrictions they want to put on their municipalities.
case in point, in the southeastern part of the state in palm beach, broward, miami-dade counties, the beaches are closed this weekend. here, in clearwater, they are slowly getting packed. at 10:00 a.m. you see families outside though the rules that are in place for the beaches are clearly outlined as soon as you get to the beach. they are asking folks who don't live together to stay six feet apart and not congregate in groups and no groups larger than ten people. i've seen people out here wearing masks as well, an important reminder of just how widespread the devastation from coronavirus is, too. you'll remember that a few weeks ago governor ron desantis was talking about how florida had not had any minors perish because of the coronavirus. that has changed recently. in pasco county, a 17-year-old, a 16-year-old in lee county and last night we got word that an 11-year-old boy in miami-dade county passing away because of
coronavirus. again, there are cries from health experts for people to heed the warnings. it's going to be difficult to enforce these rules and we'll see how they respond to them how the here on clearwater beach, jim. going to be a big test there. boris sanchez, thanks very much e the governor of texas greg abbott just announced he'll require almost the entire state to wear masks in public as cases continue to surge there, something he had resisted. cnn's lucy kafanov reports from there. the governor has now said wear masks so the economy can reopen. >> reporter: that's what we're been hearing from the all experts all along. it's not a political issue or a partisan issue. it's one way in which the governor can get the surging numbers under control. the governor previously barring people from penalizing people
from not wearing their mask in public and this executive order that goes in effect will require masks to be worn for anyone who lives in a county with 20 or 40 cases. that applies to 90% of all of texas and local officials are restricted to the gathering of some people. already, seeing some county cases saying they are not going to stick to them, in fact allowing gatherings of up to 100 people as we go into the fourth of july weekend. take a listen to how the governor phrased this. >> now i know that wearing a face covering is not the convenient thing to do, but i also know that wearing a face covering will help us to keep texas open for business. i also know that not taking action to slow the spread will cause covid to spread even worse, risk people lives and
ultimately closing more businesses. >> reporter: some people say it's too little too late. texas is already dealing were 175,000 active coronavirus cases, but, of course, these measures do help. hospitals though very much concerned. they have seen surges in cases after every holiday weekend, whether it's mother's day, memorial day and they are worried that even though we have these new rules in effect it will be hard to enforce that. the first time you're caught violating it, you get a verbal or written fine and the next time you can get a fine of up to $250, but, again, it's a difficult thing to enforce and we're entering this holiday weekend. people like to get together. it's a serious message. it's not clear how widespread that will be. jim. >> lucy kafavon, thanks very much. in arizona the state's health system under siege as the state sees an explosion not just in new cases, that is infections, but also hospitalizations, people getting really sick.
joining me now from prescott, arizona is evan mcmorris santoro. you're at a giant craft fair, a big event you see on holiday weekends there. is there a change and are people taking it seriously? >> this will be a great test of the word of the governor of people asked not to gather in big groups and the allowance he's giving to cities and counties to make the decision about this. here in prescott they made some changes to the fourth of july schedule. a dance was cancelled and a parade was cancelled and here this big craft fair is going on as well as a rodeo that had its big final weekend this weekend. the challenge of public officials is the balance between trying to get people to understand how important social distancing and mask wearing is versus the skepticism that people are agreeing with.
i spoke to the president of the arizona medical association yesterday and he told me, look, he went on tv and said people should wear masks and shortly after that got a phone call from a patient who fired him for saying that. i talked to him yesterday. >> a practice that we had a relationship where they trust their life with me and now because i went on tv and said you should wear a mask while i'm out in public. it's a devastating thing for a doctor to hear because all i'm doing is offering sound medical advice, yeah, you can disagree with me and to go that extreme, i'm done with you, is like a shocking thing for me. >> so, look, this kind of thing is what people who are trying to get this distancing going here in arizona are facing. at this craft fair today, venters are required to wear masks but people who show up are not required to wear masks. there's a sign that says to people, look, if you want to wear one, you can wear one but it's out of requirement. so that is the challenge that arizona is facing as these cases
rise and these deaths rise and local officials still want to have economic drivers like this craft fair. jim? >> listen. listen to the doctors, doctors are unanimous on whether a mask helps you and it does. thanks very much. hospitals across the nation are seeing an increase in coronavirus patients right now but facing a major shortage of funding. the pandemic has cost millions of dollars due to the cost of protecting workers, also cancelling elective procedures where they earn a lot of money. cnn's sara sidner has for. >> reporter: the dreaded sound of an emergency seem to be the only sound filling the air in new york city for far too long. >> the beginning of the whole pandemic was very, very hectic. it was crazy. it was the craziest of my career. >> while hospitals were packed with coronavirus patients here, they were also losing tagering
amounts of money. >> we've hit our hospitals to the tune of 1.6 billion so it's been roughly between $300 million and $400 million a month that we have been losing. >> reporter: from the largest health care system in new york that has treated more than 40,000 covid patients to the seattle suburbs where the first known major coronavirus outbreak hit in late february. >> even in this first month of march we projected a $15 million loss, and that's one small hospital health care system. >> to hospitals across michigan, both rural and metropolitan. >> our revenue went down immediately 60%, i mean, overnight. >> reporter: the american hospital association estimates that hospitals and health systems will have losses this year of $323.1 billion. the hospitals that saw a surge of patients and ones that did not resulting in real-life impact for health care workers. >> being a nurse i never thought that i would be on unemployment, ever. >> reporter: but that is what
happened to elise hollenback, aer mo of two in michigan. i get nervous thinking about my kids. what is their reality now going to look like? >> reporter: her reality when the hospitals didn't see a coronavirus surge but had to abide by the state orders suspending medical procedures and surgeries that kept the hospital in good financial health. less work meant furloughs even though coronavirus spiked across her state. >> i have no idea what our life will look like. >> reporter: harder life? >> yeah, yeah, different. harder. >> reporter: it seems counterintuitive but during a pandemic that hospitals would lose money but here's what happened. >> the reason for that is twofold. one is is that we cancelled most of the other services including most surgery to be able to accommodate covid patients. >> reporter: the other reason, hospitals say they generally lose money treating covid-19 patients because it requires mondays of personal protective
equipment. it's staff insensitive and creates the need to rhett fit areas to protect everyone. >> we live in very thin margins of health care and for something like this it's apocalyptic for what it means. >> reporter: as hospitals reopen for all manner of emergencies and surgeries. >> this thing looks pretty empty. >> reporter: yeah. >> is this normal? >> no. >> reporter: the public isn't showing up, even when they need to. >> that's one of our biggest concerns. we know there's still people having strokes, having chest pain and having pneumonias, appendicitis, and they are not really coming in. >> reporter: sara sidner, cnn, seattle, washington. still to come, cases are surging, but the president is the still going to a celebrate today that does not require a mask and they are saying openly will not have social distancing. what message does that send to the country? california is tightening rules as cases go up in the state.
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distancing, the mt. rushmore celebration sparking a national conversation about the history of the land marc. joining me to discuss is john harwood and stu whitney, leader of the newspaper in sioux falls. i want you to comment on there will be no mitigation efforts at this event. >> those who want to come and join us will be giving out free face masks. we won't be social distancing. be come, be ready to celebrate and enjoy the freedoms and liberties that we have in this country. >> reporter: what is the reaction of the public there to hear their governor say we're not going to requiring masks or even no effort at social distancing given that every health expert, doctor, says those are simple methods that work.
>> this is still a very solid conservative state obviously, so normally a governor being in lockstep with president trump would be just fine and warranted, but i think nothing is normal in 2020 and governor noem's steadfast message that we're going back to normal, the numbers do look fairly tolerable in south dakota with about 7,000 total cases can, only about 64 hospitalizations right now, but to have an event where you're going to have 7,500 people and more people swarming the streets of keystone, i think there's some concern about the overall messaging to go on and just outright say we're not going to be social distancing and noem is one of the few governors who has not worn a mask in the public and not spoken about the benefits of wearing a mask. >> much like the president.
>> john harwood, what we now know is these events endanger people like they go such as a place like tulsa herman cain and the president's own secret service staff, twice, with the trip to tulsa and arizona, people are infected. is that moving anyone to caution the president about these events? >> not publicly, and certainly not enough privately to change what the president is doing. it's remarkable the extent to which some on the right, some in the republican party following donald trump are so willing to fight the culture war even at the health of themselves, their allies not to mention the rest of the country. you played that bite from governor noem of south dakota. herman cain, surrogate for
president trump tweeted out an affirming message about what noem had said with all caps. people are fed up after he already knew that he had coronavirus. he's now hospitalized for the coronavirus and yet that has not sort of humbled his outlook and urged him to direct others to change their behavior. he appeared without a mark and he said he's in the process of sicking coronavirus' as and many hope we do. many have already died and for more will die and the culture war becomes more and more evidence every day. >> stu, of course, the visit to the mt. rushmore happening at a time of deep national protests to a whole host of historical figures.
tell us how mt. rushmore's history is factor into this as well. >> well, from -- i'm sure from team trump's perspective it's a perfect postcard, patriotic moment. you're surrounded by the four faces. you're surrounded by fireworks in its fourth of july weekend so i think that's supposed to serve as a rallying point for a struggling campaign, for an incumbent, but the background is that they have not had fireworks at the monument for a decade. there's concerns about forest fires and what the embers will do and there's concern about water contamination levels from pyrotechnics. there's a reason they haven't had it there in a decade but the combination of trump and governor noem sort of saying that this is going to happen and trying to almost use this as perhaps fodder for campaign imagery. there's some fund-raisers going
on. i think that's cause for concern for people that see this in a stayed of 10% and much higher in rapid city concerned with a place that has a lot of spiritual significance in what they consider as broken promises and broken treaties. >> thanks to both of you. in california officials are threatening up to $500 fines for those who ignore that state's mandatory mask order. why people are seeing this a matter of life and death.
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>> powerful stuff. cnn's dan simon joins me from simmon "k," california. dan, are they handing out fines like this a lot? >> well, we'll see what happens over weekend, but i can tell you the beaches are closed in several counties, los angeles and orange county. we're in monica. you can see the sign along the bike path and what officials are looking for is voluntary compliance, but they do reserve to issue the right for people who willfully ignore the order and it's coming as we continue to see a surge of cases throughout california in los angeles county. 1 out of 100 people are considered infectious and mayor eric garcetti said that next week that could go to 1 out of
70 people. the there's a push to get people to wear a mask. fines being leveled for people not wearing them. west hollywood for a first violation you could get a $300 fine. in santa monica $100 for first time and $500 for the third time, and, jim, we should also tell you this weekend if you plan on going to church in california, the department of public health is now saying that chanting and all singing activities need to be discontinued to prevent the virus >> dan simon, thanks very much. joining me now to discuss all the news, dr. jonathan reiner, cnn medical analyst and professor of medicine at george washington university. dr. reiner, always good to have you on. it's regrettable how much time we have to spend on this broadcast knocking down falsehoods coming from the white house on this infection but it keeps on happening.
the president said the increase in our cases is all happening because it's so massive. this is false, we know this. because dr. giroir his own assistant hhhs secretary, one of the leaders on this, said we're also seeing a rise positivity rates. just for folks at home that means a greater number of people are testing positive as you test more which means the infection is spreading, and just for the shake, dr. reiner, of our viewers. here is arizona, a state hard hit by this. the their tests are up 175%, yes, increasing positive cases up 700%. just explain in the simplest terms why it's a lie to say that the number of cases in this country are rising only because we're testing more? >> sure. you know, early on in a pandemic when there is a lot of virus in the public and when you test
people you find a very high proportion of positives because it's like you're fishing from a pond with a lot of fish so you find a lot of positive tests in a highly infected population. as the virus recedes and as you test more the number of fish in that pond affected with the virus declines so the positivity rate declines. what we're seeing now in the southwest is a surge in both the number of positive cases and the percent of people testing who are positive. if that's not enough evidence, we also look at the rate of hospitalization so in places like texas, for instance, in texas medical center, the largest conglomeration of hospitals in a single place in the world they are at capacity
so the number of hospitalizations have increased. it's not that we're finding a more symptomatic people because we're testing more. we're finding more sick people so it's not just an artifact of testing so the system is really being stressed. there's no question about it. the virus is surging in large parts of the united states. >> being a. so one thing we've not seen is a rise in the daily number of deaths. deaths still happening every day but at a lower number than we saw weeks or months ago. the president cites that as a hopeful sign. notably the surgeon general jerome adams this morning urged caution on that noting that oftentimes the gets lag the infections, right, because it takes people time to get sick and is that something that you expect to see or on the good side is it also positive that we're getting better at treatment people and therefore
preventing more deaths? >> right. >> there's multiple parts to this answer. first of all, sadly, we're seeing a rise in deaths in parts of the country. there's a rise in mortality in arizona. we're starting to see a rise in mortality in texas, but you're right. the mortality rate is a lagging indicator. think about it. the incubation for the virus is seven to ten days so it takes that long for some to get infected and takes another week for someone to be sick enough to be hospitalized and then typically about another week for someone to potentially die from this infection, so mortality lags infection by at least a couple of weeks so we will see going forward a rise in mortality as a consequence in infection. fortunately, the mortality rate has dropped in the united states but that might be the kinds of patients, demographics of patients getting infected now.
early on in the pandemic the most vulnerable were being infected. it the swept through nursing homes where the mortality rate was extraordinarily high. some of the patients -- some of the people becoming infected now are younger with a lower risk of dying, so that's -- that's good, and as you said, we've also learned a lot of things about how to treat patients. we try and keep people off the ventilator. we use maneuvers in the hospital to prone patients to increase their oxygenation and we have remdesivir which helps when used early on and now steroids so we're learning a lot so we're getting better at treating these patients, but it's incorrect to say that these -- that this new surge in infection is not and will not affect mortality. it certainly will. >> right. >> all right. folks, as we say repeatedly, listen to the doctors and listen to the data. dr. jonathan reiner, thanks very much. >> be well.
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mandate and joining me now is the mayor of savannah, mayor van johnson. mayor, thanks for taking time this morning. >> thank you so much. so governor bryn kemp, the georgia governor was asked about the city's planned mask mandate. i want to play his response and get your comment. >> the mayor and i agree on the policy. we agree on the policy. you should be wearing your mask, and that's what i would encourage people to do but we don't need a mandate. >> do you not need a mandate to encourage people to do the right thing? >> well, i mean, obviously it's clear that people throughout our community sometimes need that mandate. our business esneed that mandate. we agree that the science says wearing a mask lessens our exposure to the infection. in this case we've just decided
here that we need the mandate particularly since we have so many visitors coming into our city during this time of the year. >> as you know, the governor resisted the steps early on. do you think that that cost lives and infection in the state of georgia. >> i'm certainly not a sign test. i don't know one way or another. at this point we've all evolved in our thought process. it's clear that wearing masks helped to save lives and we've grown exponentially since we started this. had 211 cases in a single day and had a new record from may to june of 209%, so it was clear, and with the weather being as hot as 86 degrees here, we needed to do something a little more drastic to make sure we
kept our citizens and those visiting us safe. >> the thing, is you know, this isn't new, right? scientists, doctors have known and recommended for some time that masks work. other measures such as social distancing that all works. i guess i'm curious why it took so long, right? i mean, because, you know, you -- we all the experience of other states and other countries that went through this. why do you believe it took so long to get that sense of urgency? >> reporter: well, i think for us it was definitely in the numbers. just a little over a month or so ago we had a seven-day daily average of about six. we have exploded now to 67, so i think numbers definitely drove that and, again, for me and the city of savannah, we just want to keep people safe and we want to do all we can to ensure that people are safe so this is just kind of a natural progression
into what we can do to keep our citizens safe during this very, very critical time. >> and to your credit for making hard decisions. i know that folks don't like to be told what to do often. another big debate is whether this can be localized, right? i mean, the recommendations are that the broader these rules are are the bigger effect they have. many leaders in this country said we'll leave it up to local communities, but the fact is that the states that have often done that hasn't worked out, right, because things are fluid. people move back and forth and drive back and forth for work and for holidays, whatever. can georgia get a handle on this if it's just local communities like your own who are taking steps like this? >> well, georgia's made up of 159 counties. over 500 cities. for us we're strategically placed and just minutes away
from south carolina and louisville an hour from the florida border. i think other local communities have to make decisions for themselves and certainly the governor has to use his best wisdom and best advice in terms of how this looks for the state of georgia. we just want to keep our people safe. >> mayor van johnson, thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> it already has the second highest number of coronavirus cases in it the world, but experts worn the worst is still yet to come in brazil. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime. brushing only reaches 25% of your mouth. potato pay them to. listerine® cleans virtually 100%. helping to prevent gum disease and bad breath. never settle for 25%. always go for 100.
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the tractor trailer of 20 saudi nationals charged with the brutal murder of journal rift jamal khashoggi gan in istanbul today with none of the defendants present in the court root turkey has repeatedly called for the suspects to be extradited from saudi arabia, but the saudis have not complied. khashoggi was allegedly killed and dismembered in october 2018. that's him entering there. agencies including the cia concluded that the murder was ordered by the saudi crown price. earlier this week we reported that president trump would blow up at his intelligence briefers if they shared any negative activities including election interference. truffle's resistance led his national security team to reduce the amount of russian-related intelligence they included in his oral briefings. the president's briefers had one
simple rule with trump, i'm told and that's never lead with russia so my colleague jake tapper asked national security adviser john bolton his reaction and here's what he said. >> i think i have enough scars from bringing up things about russia that he probably didn't want to hear that i can say i agree with that. i do think that everybody understood the snach of russia's activities with the possible exception of the president so a lot of activity went on as you would expect it would and we tried to inform the president and get his reaction. steps were taken i think importantly to deal with russian threats but usually as the president grumbled and sfland along the way. >> well, the information in my reporting was based on accounts of multiple farmer trump officials who briefed him and were present for his briefings and also prepared documents for those briefings including in a
bok coming out august 11s, "the manman theory as trump takes on the world." the city of havana partially reopens today including bars and restaurants. the island has been on lockdown since march. atic oppmann has the latest from havana. >> reporter: hey there, jim. cuban health officials say there's only about 50 active cases on the entire island of cuba so they feel confident now reopening some businesses, public transportation, even the beach. imagine for three months we haven't been able to spim in the ocean that surrounds cuba, the island returning to normal. in public you have to wear a face mask, remain socially distant and if cases begin to
grow like everywhere else is the economy. so much revenue is based on tourism and right now most of the island remains off limits to international tourism. no flights coming in or coming out on most days so while the economy is reopening, while businesses are reopening, most of this island remains cut off, gyp, from the outside world. >> patrick, interesting to see their progress there. thanks very much. president trump heads to mt. rushmore to celebrate independence day as the country sees another 50,000 new cases for the second day in a row. will the president take action to calm americans' fears over virus or continue to spread falsehoods about it. we'll take you to south dakota live. now, simparica trio simplifies protection.
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the supreme court has cleared the world for alabama to make it more complicated, more difficult to vote by mail in order to guard against fraud. the justices blocked a lower court order that would have eased photo i.d. and witness requirements for absentee voting during the pandemic. you may remember president trump has repeatedly cast suspicion around voting by mail claiming there is massive fraud though he himself uses it and numerous
studies have shown that voter fraud is all but nonexistent in the u.s. turning now to one of the bright spots to emerge from covid crisis, seeing family, friends, neighbors stepping up to help others and save lives. the cnn heroes team launched the good job challenge to give viewers the chance to say thank you to those who are going above and beyond. ♪ good job, you're doing a good job, a good job ♪ >> i just wanted to give a quick shout-out to two amazing nurses, michael parona and taylor hoffman. they have shown fearlessness and been so calm through it all. >> having the experience, my husband has jumped into action so over the last eight weeks he has housed over 22 is videos, families and veterans. >> today i want to honor my 16-year-old grandson jonah who created a website in order to
deliver groceries and other senior citizens. >> mark is a retired police officer and was creating face shields. he estimates he's done over 2,600 face shields. thank you, mark. >> i honor you for the valuable work you are doing. >> and i just want to thank him for all of his hard work and hoping those in need. you two are truly amazing, and we need more people like you. thank you. ♪ you're doing a good job ♪ don't get too down >> stories that make you smile. we want to know who inspires you. record a short video thanking someone who is helping others during this crisis and post it on init a gram with the #goodjobchallenge. a big weekend coming up, july 4th. we want you all to celebrate with family and friends. listen to the doctors, wear masks, socially distant and do it at home as many doctors have
said and we wish you a very happy fourth. i'm jim sciutto. "newsroom" with kate balduan starts right now. hello, everyone. i'm kate balduan. thanks so much for joining us. fireworks and face masks. the country is facing a fourth of july like we've never seen before with the country setting a new record for the number of new coronavirus infections in a day breaking the previous record which was just set the day before. 52,000 new code of cases yesterday. combine that with wednesday's number, more than 100,000 new infections in two days. dr. anthony fauci is warning earlier this week that the country could soon see that in one day. now, unfortunately, it really doesn't seem too far off. here is what dr. fauci is saying now. >> i think it's pretty obvio