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cocky pickup who thought it could go where no one else was able to, but the truck didn't stop there. it kept on sliding. >> i tried to tell him. what an idiot. >> reporter: did we mention the guy who shot this video? this pickup was on its way, all right. ♪ i'm on my way >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> that's it for me. i'm wolf blitzer. tonight, the pageantry and trappings of a state dinner after at times difficult diplomacy president obama continues the red carpet for his chinese counter part hu jintao. the issue that came up most this day, was jobs. >> we're now exporting more than
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$110$100 billion a year for goo and services to china, which supports more than half a million american jobs. >> we'll dig deeper into this complicated relationship with donald trump and the ceo of coca-cola and we'll keep an eye on the white house. also today, new details of just how the tucson shooter whacked up within a few feet of congresswoman grab yell giffords and opened fire. the congresswoman stood on her own two feet and is going through photographs and may be transferred to a rehabilitation hospital by friday. just a short time ago its proposal to repeal the obama health care law was paused on a near party line vote.
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as you might expect, the debate was feisty. >> obama care as we know is the crown jewel of socialism. it is socialized medicine. >> today we'll hear some of the same rhetoric about repeal of patients' rights that we heard regarding voting rights. >> poignant but for the most part i was about debate and ideological differences for the most part. >> they say it's overtaking of health care, a big lie. just like ger bills. you repeat the lee, you repeat the lie and eventually people believe it. >> we'll ask republican congressman steve cohen if he thinks he crossed the line. first dana bash. nancy pelosi lost three democrats on this vote, so the first big vote of the new republican house majority, a party line partisan showdown. >> it was. 245 to 189. it was a lopsided vote that does reflect the republicans'
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lopsided vote on the house right now. as you mention there were three democrats who broke with their party. that's only out of 13 who are left in office who last spring actually voted against the health care law. we mentioned that for the most part the debate was rather tame in terms of the tone personalizing this. republicans did for the most part avoid terms like job killer and really focused on the philosophical issues. they certainly talked about the em knock imissues and the fact that they do believe it will take jobs away from americans. we heard them talk about things that they pretty much, studously avoided, many of them during the campaign, defending the health care law. and also not just that, explaining it. they tried very, very hard to explain why this health care law is important for real people and giving stories over andover again about personal effects that this has on people, especially the constituents. >> so, dana, we know the house
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republicans said this was a promise they could keep. we also know they can't get it through the senate. the president would veto it even if they couldn't what next on the house side? >> remember the mantra for republicans was repeal and replace. the next thing that they're actually going to do is at least show that they're going to try to replace it. so what we're going to see tomorrow, john, is the house republicans pass a bill that will instruct five committees that have jurisdiction to start to hole hearings about how, in fact, they're going to try to replace this health care law. anyway it's kind of like living in a parallel universe. everybody knows that this has no chance of passing the senate. parallel universes know. as much as they're good at making campaign promises from the past, they're also setting up the next campaign in 2012. >> next campaign in 2012. all righty, dana bash, we'll keep track. now to the tone of the debate and specifically this comparison
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from democrat steve cohen from tennessee who's making case that the republicans are lying about the details of the health care bill and in doing so he invoked the name of an infamous nazi prop prop prop proppagangist. >> you contend republicans are lying about this bill. that's a point you can make, but comparing them to a man that was used to incite the german people against the jews, at a time when hitler was killed over 6,000 people. >> i didn't compare republicans to nazis. i compared it to the big lie. as a matter of fact, politifact pulitzer prize-winner group out of st. petersburg calls that the biggest lie of 2010. that was a big lie. it was repeated over and over
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again. ger gerbls was the principle. you heard michele bachmann call it social lisist. they're lies. >> in any case, in particularly post-tucson and i want to get to some of your wrights in just a minute. why can't you make the argument politifact says if you say this, it's a lie. it has a debate there. like gerbils. like is a comparison, a sim ile. >> well, if people -- i don't think reasonable people would do that. some people have in the past. they seem to want to jump on anything. i've been through civility. i will not stand for lies.
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and, you know, the ninth commandment is pretty good, thou shalt not bear false witness. when a national group continues to state a lie, the most morley outrageous was the health care, then that's wrong, and you know, i'm not suggesting anybody's a nazi, but i'm suggesting continuing say the same thing over and over and over agaagain -- and we saw it from karl rove. >> plit fact did not say like gerbls. i want to state what you wrote. for some time i've been troubled by the hateful and often pa tently untrue word. let's say there were infridgements on the left and right, true?
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>> true. >> how about somebody on the fridging element saying that's right, the republicans are like the nazis. you invite that, don't you? >> i don't think i invite it. i think the presses with hypersensitive. certainly i didn't intend to do that wu but the way they lied has been the same way that the master political propagangis did was lie. keep saying it over and over and eventually people will believe it. they think it's socialist medicine when it's not. they believe in the dealt penalties can, which it wasn't. i think the lies should be stood up to. >> i want to read one more thing that you wrote just to make sure that you don't believe -- do you believe that what you say about like gerbils is consistent with this -- would modulating our public
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discourse include not using words like gerbils or anybody like that? why can't with just take that stuff out and say it's a lie, here's my proof, let's debate the facts. >> indeed you can do that and maybe it would have been simpler, but the fact is it was the big lie and it was an independent group that said it, and when you compare it, i don't think there's any problem comparing somebody who was the best or the worst at it and it -- >> the nazis killed 6,000 people. >> i'm jewish and i think it's something we understand and how awful it was and that's why when you countenance lies can lead to problems here. we should not permit it to go on and on and on. >> i think some would make the case in making your case which you have every right to make that we would not compare or leave in the minds of some that you compare them to the nazis.
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>> i don't think i want to and i don't think mel brooks was. >> mel brooks was making a comedy. >> still ahead, the president hu of china didn't answer. next is this man, sitting there smiling in the front row at the president's news conference angling to oppose mr. obama in the 2012 election.
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u.s. ambassador to china is at the white house as part of the chinese state visit. the first question was, of course, about u.s./china relations, but listen to this big-time 2012 twist. >> i'd like to know what you make of the speculation that the gentleman in front of me might run against you in 2012. >> the fact that he comes from a different party, i think, is a strength, not a weakness because it indicates the degree to which both he and i believe that partisanship ends at the water's edge and that we work together to advocate on behalf of our country. >> the president went on to say he thought ambassador huntsman would be successful at whatever he decided to do. he was the republican for utah when he decided to head off to beijing. there had been rumors of late that he might come home and
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enter the 2012 fray. all right. to you first because jon huntsman is a republican. any sense that this is real or just fun? >> i think it's just fun. if anything, i think the odds are greater that he would be going to the senator rather than the white house. number one, i don't see him as a viable candidate and number, two, i don't think those close to him thinks he wants to. >> are you suggesting that maybe ambassador huntsman would challenge or hatch the veteran from utah? >> maybe. there's polls where huntsman has a wide leech other warren hatch. >> that could be -- robert bennett was the senator. >> he got beat -- >> i'll go for a twofer. >> all right, all right. we'll watch ambassador huntsman. we'll see what he wants to do. he's take a look at more political news.
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favorable or unfavorable opinion of sarah palin. favorable right now is 38% among all americans. unfavorable, 56%. that's up seven points from october. why the jump? look at this among women and independents. the unfavorables have drjumped significantly. some have made the arguments the more she gets involved in political debates the worse she is doing in terms of public opinion. >> i am one of those. my friend mark has an editorial up that her time has come and gone largely because of this. if you look at the people running ahead of her, they all have one thing. they've kept their head down, mitt romney, tim pa lenity. she's doing her no favors and as much as there are a lot f people who would like her to run, the more she stace in the spotlight, the more they get tired of her. >> no, no, no don't shut her
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off. she said, they're trying to shut me up. i'm not, mrs. palin. we need more sarah palin. she needs a sarah palin network. >> i think it's called a learning poll. >> here's why the american public doesn't want her out there more. her favorable among republicans in the same poll, 68%. very good. that's add gooz add any other republican. among independents her favorable is only 33. so she could be popular enough to win the republican nomination to take on obama and then get slaughtered. >> my working theory is considering there's going to be one presidential candidate for the republican party whose sole purpose is going to be to hurts her and drive the poll numbers down, will get rewarded if the republican gets the nomination that's not palin and wins the election.
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>> i'm going to sneak this in. piers morgan has condoleezza rice on tonight. he tries a little personal twist. watch this. >> if i was going to woo you, which isn't completely crazy, but if i was going to. >> convince me that you'll spend sunday afternoons watching football. >> would you -- i couldn't imagine you ever be a sub serve yenlt wife. i imagine you being tough. >> not tough but i believe marriage is of equals. my parents were, and that's how i see it. >> i think the guy's married but looking for a plan b? >> condoleezza rice and my wife remind me of each other, they both cook well, love football and i'm scared of both of them.
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there's major news about congresswoman giffords' remarkable recovery. a short time ago doctors told
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reporters she's now able to stand. >> today we were able to get her out of bed, and we were able to get her to stand with asus staps. she's got strength to stand on her own and lift her head up. i see improvements every single day. >> let's talk this over with our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. dr. gupta, this is your business, treating the brain injury. the fact she can stand on her own two feet and the fact that doctors see other signs of progress, what does that tell us? >> there has been improvement. i was talking with her husband, mark kelly. the doctors said, look, she's going to have backward days where she's not going to make improvement or things lied backward. it really has not happened so i think that's really an important thing in term of her recovery. the reason standing is so important for her specifically is because this injury to the left side of her brain, one of the things they're most concerned about is what is the effect on the motor strength, the power on the right side of her body, the fact that you can
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bear right on your right leg shows that she has a significant amount of strength in that leg. that's why it's so significant. we're obviously going to want to know about her arm but this is a significant development for that reason. >> we're told as early as friday she'll leave a hospital in tucson and enter a longer habitation center in texas. her husband is an astronaut and is stationed in houston. what happens then and what is the regiment and what is the threshold to know if she continues to make progress? >> rite. good questions. when it comes to brain rehab, there are some pretty specific protocols, they vary from institution to institution but think of cognitive, behave oral and emotional rehab. i think of that in terms of the brain. cognitive, that one's easy, doing things to make sure he's able to cognitively improve. it can start off simple.
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showing flash cards, recognizes, and is able to communicate and recognizes this in some way. right now we have pretty good evidence that she is receiving communication well. she can hear some thing, follow a command. that's only half of speech. the other half is expression and obviously speaking but writing, making gestures, all that sort of stuff, that's part of speech as well. behavioral therapy. make sure she doesn't have period of time where she becomes agitated. people can lapse into depression, have post-traumatic stress problems after that but it's the physical rehab that will obvious hi be a big component of that. not only the leg and arm but the body, considering how long she's been in bed, just getting up to a chair. swallowing. that's difficult. especially after you've had a trach os tomy. they think of it as baby steps,
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small steps every single tay. but think of it in the way that a baby starts to learn activities again, rolling over, standing up, tending to yourself, combing your hair, being able to feed yourself, that's the progression. >> you mentioned your conversation with mark kelly. you were the first to talk with him. diane sawyer asked him the question many are asking. number one, can she go back to congress and, number two, would mark kelly want her to go back. let's listen. >> do you really want her to go back. >> that's a tough, tough decision. probably not, but i know that's probably not going to matter to her. i think -- i think she's such a devoted public servant that she's going to come out of this and be more resolved to fix things, you know, to make things better for people. >> with your experience, dr. gupta, knowing how she is now, she can stand on her two feet, she's going into this long-term
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rehabilitation. when -- and let's continue to pray things go well -- when can she and her family consider that question? >> i think it's still several months away, john, and that's not to be evasive. i think it's really hard that someone could tell at this point because everyone is so individual. let me say this. the quicker someone improves after an injury the higher their outcome will be overall. that's one of the higher things we know. if they have quick improvement afterward their endpoint is going to be much better, much higher. this point about her ability to express herself through speech, through written communication, through simple things as gestures, we haven't seen clear evidence of that yet. mine she can understand. i think that's been pretty clear now. she was even reading cards, we hear. but this expression, we're going to have to see how well she can to that. certainly as a member of congress, you know, giving speeches, being able to give
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extemporaneous jobs, all of that, that's a big part of the job. she's going to have to rehab a significant amount before she can do that on her own. >> that's fascinating stuff. when we come back, a state visit at the white house. one of the big questions the jobs and the business environmental. we'll talk with the ceo of coca-cola and donald trump just ahead. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 absolutely. i mean, these financial services companies
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better relations meaning more american jobs. together we've shown that the united states and china when we cooperate can obtain special benefits. the positive, constructive cooperative u.s./china relationship is good for the united states. >> but the administration also has a long list of complaints about chinese government behavior and it brought in a group of american ceos to better press for chinese markets and fairer treatment than the u.s. companies operating in china. among those on hand the chairman and ceo of the coca-cola company
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who is also with the chinese business council. thank you for your time. i'm fascinated to get your experience. your company has been operating in china for 0 years. back in 2009 you wanted to buy a juice company you. thought you had a deal. chinese government says no. does chinese government unfairly treat. >> i thought the mood was very friendly, open, frank, popular in order to improve conditions for investment in both countries for businesses innovation policies. some of those opportunities wchl still feel as china brings more and more people into middle
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class, it's going to be great for china, great for the united states as we export more because let's also remember the last ten months, chinese exports have been growing at a clip of p 30%. highest growth rate. >> i appreciate the point but you're being very diplomatic. answer for the american who's sitting in michigan, wisconsin who's saying we used to make toys here, furniture here, xyz here and my manufacturing plant is gone and yet those products are coming in from china but the president complains, other ceos complain and they say if our companies are not being treated fairly in china, why don't we slap tariffs on exports coming into the united states to level the playing field? >> i think what we need to look at is a new dynamic relationship, not just one where everyone is producing their own goods but one where chinese
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companies can come and invest in the united states. i'll give you an example, job, of coca-cola's investments in china, how those investments are creating jobs right here in the united states. one example. we have a large dynamic growing juice business in china because there's more chinese middle-class consumers. we have set up a hundred million dollar plants in auburndale, florida, last year, opened it, and that has created an additional net 165 new jobs in that town in florida and creating many more indirect jobs because we're processing all our oranges from florida and shipping it exclusively to china to satisfy the needs of our growing business in china. that's a great example of how an investment in china, an overseas
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market is a win/win both for china and the united states. >> it is a positive example but yet you hear of not so positive examples. steve ballmer says for every ten copies sold to china, one is manufactured by u.s. the rest are rip offs. >> i think we saw a commitment in mid december when the chinese advice premier came here. there was progress made and we saw -- we heard again today a lot of further understanding of those issues that were being raised by both the u.s. administration as well as us companies. >> when you travel the countries as i did a lot over the last couple of years, for my work a lot of people think we get the short end of the stick, that china gets most of the benefits in this economic relationship. do you see evidence, and if yo you do, please be as specific as
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you can. for somebody out there watching, saying, here we go again, i'm going to get screwed here and they're going the benefit, explain to that person how it might get better. >> there can't be a better metric than 30%-plus growth in exports in the last ten months of last year. that is the highest growth rate of exports that we do to any country. so there couldn't be anything better than that as a proof point. >> sir, thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> as you just heard mr. kent acknowledges so problems. i talked recently to someone who has a very, very different take, the real estate mogul, donald trump. >> i don't smile because there's nothing to smile about but i do listen to the economists in the various morning shows and they talk about creating jobs. how can you create jobs when
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china is creating furniture and when i order curtain walls and the glass is ordered from china, when so many of the products are made outside of the united states, toys are made outside of the united states. furniture is made, tremendous amounts of furniture coming in from other countries, in particular china. and we're rebuilding other countries and nobody picks up on it. i'm very strong about it. i talk about how china is taking advantage of this country and i deal with the chinese and i want to tell you, it's not necessarily fun. they're very smart, they're very kuning. >> what do you do about it? the fact that they're cheating or eating our lunch because they're faster, smarter? what do we do about it? i know you don't support
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protectionism but -- >> when you say cheating, they are cheating because they're manipulating their currency. it's very hard for the country to compete, companies within the country to compete with chinese companies and the nation because in many cases some of these companies are the nation because of the manipulation of the currency. now, the american product is better. 'd be chinese furniture and it's breaking all over the place. you know the famous case of the sheet rock. it's disastrous. destroyed many people. the lives of many people. it's toxic. it's sober. >> if that's your very sober, somewhat ominous message -- >> it's not ominous. it's easy to stop. you start taxing chinese products. it's very easy to stop. they pulled some tricks on me that are pretty bad and i get the whole deal, you know. and i will tell you that they're pulling in a much bigger way
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tricks on this country. now, i have chinese businessmen that are friends of mine. they can't believe what they're getting away with. they can't believe it. and you know what? all power to them. if the chinese representatives are smarter than our representatives and if they can get away with it, hey, i'm a free enterprise guy, they should do it. but something has to be done because our country is going down very quickly. >> let's just look at one data point people point to when they're worried. some were worried, some are optimistic. as early as the beginning of the decade, china is blue, united states is red. watch the line through the last decade. here's where we are now. china slightly behind. but here's the projection through the new england decade. china surpassing the united states. that's one of the concerns as the president discuss this relationship. when we come back we'll talk u.s./china relationships with the man who has studied them deeply. ♪
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pageantry and people-watching. michelle obama dressed formally for the state dinner. the guess list is a combination of washington and wall street. it comes after a long day of sometimes difficult diplomacy. i discussed the china challenge. let me start with this threshold question. by what standard would you judge this summitry, a success or failure? >> i think the most important test is going to be has the united states been able to get china to agree to a sustained strategic conversation. in other words there are going to be problems between the united states and china. these are the two global giants in the system. but is there an agreement that
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we need to have a constant dialogue communication so at the very least, misperception, miscalculation, misunderstanding. there some kind of understanding that this is going to now be the new summitlomacydiplomacy. just as they were the central decision-making points that would dominate world events and would keep the peace in the world? u.s./china summits are going to have to be the place that problems are solved in the world. >> let's go through specific challenges. first i want you to listen briefly here. listen to mr. obama's answer. >> i have been very candid with president hu about these issues.
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>> in public the united states is always very vague. they say they raise the human rights issues, there's more or less a form letter, the president read the opening statement about the dalai lama and the rights of the tibetan people but no mention of a nobel peace prize winner kept in prison. no specific mention of the hassles google had recently with the chinese government. you know this. they say if you do that in public you will make matters worse, but if it is such a recurring issue, should the united states rip up the playbook and essentially raise these issues specifically and publicly? >> i don't think so. look. at the end of the day you've got to ask yourself what is the benefit to the united states and what is the benefit to the cause of human rights? the united states in terms of its national interest gains nothing by annoying, provoking,
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angering the chinese with which it needs to work on every serious global issue, on every serious issue it needs to regarding the american people. secondly, does it really help the cause of human rights in china for the president to needle hu jintao more aggressively with regard to this? are they going to let more political prisoners out because of that? all evidence we have suggests that when the chinese are publicly asked this, they put their backs up. we know from time and time again, when we pressure them, they don't do it. when you eyes private pressure they'll quietly allow things to happen because they cannot see themselves as crying uncle to american pressure. so they're very sensitive to it. it's not helping american interest or human rights. it's self-indulgent. it makes us feel good but it's
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not clear that it does good. >> all of the words were mostly vague. president hu did say he hoped for more cooperation. president obama at one point leaned in to a little bit of the friction saying he believed the forward presence of the united states in asia was one of the reasons of stability and we all know the chi neesz don't necessarily see it that way when there are other operations in that part of the country. did you see anything, read anything in between the lines that makes you suggest whether it be korea or other issues that they'll have a more adult cooperative relationship now? >> john, i picked up on exactly what you did. the president very clearly and unambiguously said the united states presence in asia is stabilizing. it is viewed that way, by the way, by almost err other nation country. here we have the real potential
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flare-up, which is that the chinese military, the people's liberation army, the largest army in the world, very, very powerful, player within china politically, clearly views the united states as its enemy, as the country -- does war games against, the country is trying to build up, to deter, whether it's with regard to time warner or something with regard to the south china seas. so how this relationship plays out and whether or not the chinese will ultimately be able to convince themselves or whether civilians in china will be able to convince the military that the u.s. is actually a stabilizing force is going to be the central drama geopolitically because we're not going anywhere. we will be a central player. we are, at this point, the most important pacific or asian military power in asia even though we're not really afternoon asian power. will china accept that we're a power that's here to stay or is
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it going to rub up against us constantly. >> as we try to answer the question one of the fast that itting things we have learned in recent weeks is robert gibbs was there. he said that president hu seemed genuinely surprised when secretary gates said you just tested a stealth fighter while i'm in your country. he turned to a military aide and asked for an explanation. are there things within his own government that complicate this security challenge you're talking about? >> there are two things. you put it exactly right. when we think about the united states we're able to discuss the decision-making process with a lot of nuance and complexity. we understand there are no such thing as the u.s. what china is becoming more like that so that you can clearly see the difference between the
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people's liberation army, the military, and some of the civilian government. by the way, that has grown over the last ten years because it used to be when mao was in charge, they were the supreme civilian leaders but they also had military credentials because they led china through the battle of the 1940s that allowed the communist country to triumph. they have no military background. they have no military credentials whatsoever. they have no formal military sway over them. so there's more politics in china than we realize and more complexity to their decision-making and the military is independent and less under control of the civilian authority than it was before. that new development is one to watch. >> fareed zakaria, thanks for your insights.
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this breaking news just in to cnn. this release from the u.s. attorney's office in arizona. the suspected shooter jared loughner, the grand jury returning what they call a preliminary indictment. charges him with attempted assassination of congresswoman giffords and two of her aides. now, of course, six people including a federal judge and a 9-year-old girl were killed in that shooting, the u.s. attorney explaining that death penalty charges require a more thorough charges to go through stressing that additional charges are likely in this case, including in the six murders there, but three charges right now. i want to bring in our senior analyst. jeff, on lusly the prosecutor wanted to go on record with some
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of these charges. why three when this suspected shooter is likely to faks six counts of murder and additional counts as well. >> that's right, john. he thood do something within 30 days because love herred in been arrested under federal rules he would have had to have filed charges within 0 days. those are the beginning of a grand jury investigation. none of these current charges carry the potential for the dpent but as it makes clear, additional charges could be added that would carry the death penalty because you -- these are only attempted murder charges, and attempted murder does not carry the death penalty in any stace or under federal law. >> explain the status. it's understandable. the attorney general makes that clear. to pursue the dpent there must
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be evidence provided to the capital review committee. explain that process and why and the good reasons that they face a higher threshold? >> there are a lot of charges all related to murder that have the potential of carrying the dpenltd. but the united states, justice department has to have cob sis tently applied. any time they're considering the death penalty, they have to go to washington and get an approval. there's a committee that deals with the issues and that is the beginning of the process that's described today. it takes a considerable amount of time and this case is not going to be tried any time soon, that's for sure. >> before i let you go, i want to raise job obviously you make a good point. it will take some time the
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capital charges because of the higher standard and the process necessary. interesting in reading a release from the u.s. attorney's office. again, breaking news tonight, jared loughner has been indicted on three charges. the u.s. attorney stressing additional charges are likely as the investigation continues but, jeff, he also noted these three counts, as i noted, carry a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison but then -- i think is a reflection of the high intensity and the politics of this case. the u.s. attorney goes on to note that the judge, however, is not bound by those guidelines in determining a sentence. i'm sort of struck. 's in the release. >> that's right. the judge is not -- he can't do more than is authorize birthday i the statute. he can do less. but i think by the time loughner goes to trial, the charges are likely to look very different.
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this is really a -- there's a 30-day deadline. he was arrested a little more than a week ago. he had to have some charges in place. but the grand jury investigation will continue. there's a long way to go in this case. so i think certainly these charges will be there when he ultimately goes to trial, but i am certain there will be more as well. >> jeff toobin, i appreciate your husband toll be on tonight. the shooter has been indicted on three accounts of attempted assassination including attempting to kill congresswoman gabrielle giffords including two of her aides. jeff toobin, i appreciate your insight. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, back to the president's high-stakes diplomacy.
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a live picture at the white house. a state dipper under way with president hu jintao. the speaker of the house, john boehner is there, the democratic leader in the senate, harry reid is not there. in a recent interview called hu jintao a dictator. >> and boehner is not there. i spoke with someone on the staff today. i said why is he not going?
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he's now the speaker of the house, right? he said he hasn't been to a state dinner since queen elizabeth came since 2007 and he's not really a state leader kind of guy. he said don't read anything into it. but, of course, you have to read something into it. >> the first state dinner? >> the bottom line is i think cnnmoney.com had the best line of the week which was if china and the u.s. had facebook ktss relationship status would say it's complicated and it is. it's also complicated for the congressional leaders. john boehner has republicans on the hill. they said why is the president standing against someone who should be in the -- for human rights. there are certain peel who think this is a little bit over the
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top. >> don't forget when george w. bush -- they just did a lunch and they were insulted beyond all belief so i think i would have to say this is about business. >> it's about business and jobs and the president was pretty bald open but nancy pelosi is another one. she's from california, san francisco. she mentioned union rights. mentioned tiananmen square massacre. they were relatively mouted in public. >> he also made very clear that you've got to balance this out a little bit with the economy. it's all about jobs. it was pretty funny when he said, i'm ready to sell you cars, planes. he wants china to spend more money. >> talk about walking a fine
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line. here's the president, a 2009 nobel prize winner. the 2010 nobel prize winner is in prison in china. >> that's a tough one for the president. [ laughs ] that's so dumb. [ laughter ] nice. [ male announcer ] don't be left behind. at&t. the nation's fastest mobile broadband network is getting faster with 4g. the nation's fastest mobile broadband network what are you looking at? logistics. ben? the ups guy? no, you see ben, i see logistics. logistics? think--ben is new markets. ben is global access-- china and beyond. ben is a smarter supply chain. ben is higher margins.

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