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but the pentagon says they're only armed to defend themselves. >> we're going to have a lot more of your top stories throughout the evening tonight. i'll see you back here one hour from now. "the situation room" with wolf blitzer begins right now. president obama insists iran is to blame for an alleged assassination plot right here in washington, d.c. but what proof does he have? his comments on the case leave some tough questions still unanswered. also, a former used car salesman stands accused of conspiring to kill the saudi ambassador to the united states. we're taking a closer look at the suspects including a member of iran's military who is still at large. and herman cain strengthens his hand as the leader, at least a leader of the republican pact. as the gop candidates gear up for the next debate, does cain have what takes to go the
distance? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer and you're in "the situation room." . president obama says that iran must be held accountable for an alleged plot to kill a saudi ambassador to the united states. he is ramping up efforts to punish and isolate iran as he puts pressure on republicans in congress for blocking his jobs bill. jess yak jessica yellin is standing by much he was asked about the alleged assassination plots, the links to the iranian government. give us the headlines. >> well, the president repeatedly declined to say that nation's supreme leader and president were aware of the alleged plot. but he insisted that knowledge of it reached high into the iranian government. here's the president. >> we believe that if -- even if
at the highest levels there was not detailed operational knowledge, there has to be accountability with respect to anybody in the iranian government engaging in this kind of activity. >> he went on to say that u.s. government is using the evidence they gathered to push international partners to ratchet up pressure and further isolate iran. that's where the president stands, wolf. >> also, you had an opportunity to talk with him about the jobs bill that's going on right now. give us the gist of how the president's juggling all the various initiatives this week. >> well, he wouldn't say which piece of the jobs bill he'd like congress to take up first. i asked him that point blank. i also asked if he negotiate with republicans in an effort to move something forward on the jobs bill. here was his answer. >> i don't think the problem here, jessica, is that i have not been unwilling to negotiate
with republicans. i've shown repeatedly my willingness to work overtime to try to get them to do something to deal with this high unemployment rate. >> senior officials in the white house said that they expect ultima ultimately the payroll tax and unemployment insurance are the likeliest pieces to pass congress in the end, wolf. >> a lot of work to do on all of these fronts. stand by. thank you. the republican presidential race, herman cain is strengthening his place at the top of the pack and leading the polls. jim acosta is looking at herman cain. a lot of us are asking the question, can herman cain go the distance? >> he's been written off as the unromney or flavor of the month. a lot of republicans are starting to ask the question. could herman cain somehow become the next president of the united states? herman cain is no long shot
anymore. latest cnn poll shows the upstart gop contender right on the heels of front-runner mitt romney. >> thank you. >> for many conservatives, the sudden surge is as simple as 999, cain's economic plan which replaces the current tax code with one that taxes individuals and corporations at 9% and add a new national sales tax at 9%. >> it's bold. it's dramatic. >> but grover norquist cautions against creating new revenue streams for the government. >> you've got one needle in your arm drawing blood. that can hurt. you put in two more and you can really begin to move to drain the blood out of a person or the income out of people's pockets. >> reporter: cain argues consumers could take steps to avoid that sales tax. >> if you don't pay it on used stuff. it gives the decision as to how
they stretch their dollar to consumer. >> reporter: cain is a candidate and he advise on a little known cleveland based financial planner who says on the page that he has a degree in accounting. for independent analysis of his 999 plan, cain turned to husband and wife tax consultants based outside of d.c. >> you have to help me cut the budget a little. >> reporter: it sounds like something out of the movie "dave" in which a nonpolitician president calls on his accountant to fix the budget. >> who does these books? if i ran my prison this way, i'd be out of business. >> our tochl code is the 21st century version of slavery. >> reporter: cain is going after the same voters, fiscal and social conservatives who flocked to rick perry and michelle bachmann. >> i felt like mozes when god said i want you to go into egypt and lead my people out. moses resisted. i resisted. >> reporter: the darling of the right, cain's clalg could come in a former campaign.
he rarely holds back. >> would you be comfortable appointing a muslim either in your cabinet or as a federal judge? >> no. i will not. as this attempt to gradually ease shlaw and muslim faith int our government. >> another challenge cain's staff is small, 35 people. it's campaign is ramping up. to do that, cain needs cash to take on romney and perry. he is already thinking about who his running mate might be naming paul ryon and jim demint as possibilities. that may be getting a little ahead of himself. >> since that initial comment about muslims not being allowed to serve, he sought to clarify that. and what he now says is extremists muslims would not be allowed to serve in his cabinet. so he's fixing some of the earlier statements. >> a lot of the statements will come back to haunt them. the democrats only have to look at some of the statements that he's made over the years on
abortion, on putting muslims in his cabinet, you name it. should he make it to the general election campaign. >> and there's no doubt that teams and teams of journalists and even more important, teams and teams of opposition research experts are now beginning to take a very close look at some of the controversial comments. jim aacosta, thank you very muc. the cnn debate coming during a volatile time in the race. all of this unfolding. remember, next tuesday night this coming tuesday, 8:00 p.m. eastern, only here on cnn, the next republican presidential debate in las vegas. i know our chief political analyst is going to be out in las vegas. i'll be in las vegas as well. let's talk a little bit about rick perry. finally on friday he came out with a specific plan. this time an energy plan, designed to create jobs. i'll play a little clip. >> i hope i make progress every day in my life as well as my debate performances. but again, americans aren't looking for the best debater. we've got a slick talker in the
presidency right now that lost 2.5 million jobs. at the same time we created a million jobs in the state of texas. they're looking for someone who's got that chief executive governing experience that truly knows how to get america back working. >> all right. he's lost a lot of support if you believe all the polls, gloria. he still has a ton of money out there that he can use. so the question is this -- can he come back? >> sure. of course he can come back. and as he said, americans aren't looking for a great debater. americans are looking for somebody to replace barack obama. if they want to replace barack obama, they want to fire him. you have to find somebody you think can go toe to toe with him in debates. and the problem is that rick perry has not shown that he's able to do that. debates are really job interviews. and so far rick perry hasn't shown people much. he said in the last debate, for example, that he was going to come up with his jobs plan.
we heard an energy plan on friday from rick perry. but we haven't heard the rest of his economic policy. so i think people are waiting for the specifics. and now he's going to try and reintroduce himself to republican voters. but he's got to introduce himself with specific plans for the economy because that's what they care about. energy is one thing. but there are other things he needs to deal with. >> if you believe the polls, almost all of the support that rick perry is losing seems to be going to herman cain right now. >> right. >> he's clearly got some momentum. the question, is will that last? >> right. and i know i saw jim acosta's very good piece about that. the question is, can he withstand the scrutiny that he's going to have to withstand? it's one thing to be in the second tier or third tier as a presidential candidate. but when you move into that top tier, people want to know not only about your so-called 999 plan which by the way has been criticized by lots of
conservative republicans, but they're going to want to know about his foreign policy and about what kind of person he is, who he is, everything about his life. and i think that's all going to be fair game. it's the kind of scrutiny he's not used to. he has come on the air saying things like i don't have the facts to back this up, but -- you can't say that when you're a presidential conditioned date. michelle bachmann got in trouble on that same issue with the hpv vaccine. so he's going to have to learn that he's playing in a different league right now. >> i think at one point he's going to have to really give out his medical details. he's a stage four cancer survivor in his late 60s right now. people are going to want to know is he healthy enough to be commander in chief. >> i think john mccain ran into that when he is a cancer survivor. he had to release extensive medical records. i think the same would be required of herman cain. and any presidential candidate by the way who makes it into the final round. people are going to want to know
can you serve? >> we'll see when he releases the documents. we'll see what happens. you know, one of the most important photo opportunities i saw this past week was mitt romney getting an endorsement from chris christie the governor of new jersey. it was a very significant development. i suspect very helpful for mitt romney. >> i think it is helpful for mitt romney because chris christie is a great advocate. he is known as the real deal. he is an authentic guy. and mitt romney's problem is that people worry that he's not an authentic guy. so to have chris christie's endorsement really helps on that front. it doesn't help him so much with the republican base which is still going to remain just as skeptical about mitt romney. chris christie was not a favorite with the conservative base of the party either. i think in the long term he's a great advocate. he's a great ally and he can help mid romney raise a lot of
money. >> despite his not interesting in a number two, is that a ticket out there? mitt romney, chris christie? >> i think probably not. because i think you don't want two northeastern conservative republicans because conservatives from the south or the west might question how conservative they are. and i think when i look at mitt romney, i say okay, well, he's going to want to win a couple states if he becomes a nominee. so maybe mark rubio, for example, or ohio, rob portman from ohio would be a very, very interesting running mate. >> as ohio goes, almost always goes the nation. >> you got it. >> marco rubio, he's a huge rising star. >> and portman is on the super committee which will be interesting to see how he behaves on that and what he supports. >> all right. early speculation as always. >> yes, why not? >> thanks, gloria. once again, be sure to join cnn
for the western republican presidential debate in las vegas. it air this is coming tuesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. we're learning new details about the alleged iranian plot to kill the saudi ambassador to the united states including the surprising past of one of the suspects, a former used car salesman from texas. also, my interview with john huntsman, the other mormon in the white house race. he has some strong words about that pastor who called his faith a cult. and herman cain's plan to revamp the tax system. what would 999 really do? we're digging deeper. nationwide insurance, what's up ?
an iranian suspect is in custody in new york city. his next court date is october 25th. he is accused of conspiracy to murder a foreign official and commit terrorism. lisa sylvester is investigating this story for us. you're finding out fascinating new details. >> that's right. 56-year-old is the man that investigators say is at the center of this plot. authorities describe him as ruthless, unconcerned about killing innocent people. but his close friends say they have a hard time making sense of all. this they describe the guy they knew as a nice guy, someone who is disorganized, forgetful and incapable of being a mastermind of this kind of plot.
he wept by the name jack according to mitchell hamillway, a friend of his that describes him as a normal guy. >> he didn't care about what happened with government. you know, that's why i found it very shocking to see that he was accused of doing this. >> reporter: he lived a relatively quiet life. 'te he attended texas a&m university. but he dropped out there. he tried his hand as a small businessman. at one point he co-owned this used car lot in corpus christi, texas. he also owned a kabab restaurant in a local mall. but his businesses, one by one, folded. investigative reporter rick sprool interviewed several of his colleagues. they say money was his main driver. >> he was always looking for the deal. he was just a money hound. and they said there's just -- in their minds, no question that
he -- whatever he put himself into it was specifically to make money. that there was no ideology. there was no jihad. there was nothing abstract about it. it was just money. >> reporter: his home was put up for foreclosure sale in september 2010. court records show some business disputes that wound up in small claims court and irs liens from 2003 for $5,800. a former college classmate said he was the victim of a violent mugging in the 1980s and from that he had short term memory issues for most of his adult life. >> all the time he was forgetting titles to the cars, he would forget keys and documents and briefcases. he was traveling one time and he was supposed to go to houston and come back. he left all the documents in my store here and he was gone driving and had to come back two hours. i did leave my stuff here? yeah.
you left it here. >> his estranged wife also found it hard to believe he was involved. >> i may not be living with him. we're separated. but i cannot for the life of me think he is capable of doing that. he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. i'm sure of that. i know his innocence is going to come out. >> friends say he moved back to iran in 20 10e and didn't hear much from him or about him until they turned on the news and started seeing the reports. wolf? >> and we're learning a lot more about him every single day. i suspect there is a lot more to learn in the weekends and months to come. lisa, thanks very, very much. we're also learning a lot more about the other suspect, the suspect that is not in custody. there is another man who was allegedly involved. he remains out of reach at least for now. let's bring in cnn's brian todd. he is taking a closer look at this other suspect in this alleged plot wlachlt you are learning about this guy? >> wolf, the suspect is at large.
he's parentally, as you mentioned, a long way from the reach of u.s. officials. he could very well be protected by a powerful and feared iranian military unit. and he could still be very dangerous to western citizens. >> reporter: u.s. officials a which chief suspect was given a codeword for the plot to kill the saudi ambassador, chevrolet. they say when he told his iranian handlers the chevrolet was ready, he was told buy it. meaning, go ahead and kill him. the man who told him that, u.s. officials say is an officer in iran's feared force. shakuri is charged as a conspirator in the plot. where is he? >> shakuri remains at large. >> reporter: at large and experts say very elusive. they say he's probably in tehran, likely a focus of western law enforcement but for now out of their reach. is there no chance of getting him? >> no, there's a chance. i think the next step would be for the u.s. to issue provisional arrest warrants for
him then go to inter poll and france and submit their investigative package to the attorneys there. >> reporter: a former fbi assistant says then shaku rcri could be apprehended. they believe he managed big money transactions in this flight is a deputy to one official in the force identified as a cousin. they work for a general, commander of the force. under his leadership, experts say, this shadowing secretive unit, an arm of iran's revolutionary kbarguard, uses terrorists around the world to do the lethal bidding. >> they are training their army, recruitment, all of that. and bombing attacks, use of ieds, assassinations, all of these happen as part of the conflicts in places like lebanon and iraq. i asked him if western citizens should be worried about shakuri.
is he a threat? >> i think he's a tlit, yes. you don't know if this is the only person that he was dealing with. you know, if you has many operatives out in various parts of the world or others possibly in the united states, although that seems probably unlikely in this case, but you would think that he would have responsibility for more than one potential attack. >> he says that means there could be other attacks being planned right now by shakuri, possibly targeting europe, south america, or elsewhere using different cells of operatives. scary thought. >> very scary. what you are hearing about the suggestion that's this alleged plot could have been iranian retaliation against the saudis? >> that's right, you blogged this week about the rivalry between iran and saudi arain yachlt a arabia. this could be retaliation for their actions in bahrain. they helped put down a popular revolt. that revolt is sunni. that angered the iranians.
the majority there are shia like the iranians. that was a nasty situation. and the iranians are still very angry about the saudis doing that in bahrain. this could be retaliation for that. it wasn't that long ago. >> i suspect on this front as well, more details are about to emerge. thank you very much. a stunning turn of events if the trial of the so-called underwear bomber. we're going to tell what you happened. plus, an evangelical leader is calling mormonism a false religi religion. so what does john huntsman have to say about that? i'll ask him. you can't change the way banking works. just accept it, man. free ? doesn't close at five ? try nature. it's a bank. what do you want, a hug ? just accept it. hidden fees, fine print, or they'll stick it to you some other way. stay with the herd, son. accept it. just accept it. accept it. just accept it. accept it. if we miss this movie, you're dead. if you're stuck accepting banking nonsense, you need an ally. ally bank. no nonsense. just people sense.
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boycott next tuesday's debate in nevada which moved the caucus date up to january. also ruining the race, the controversy ignited by a baptist pastor robert jeffress who calls the mormon faith a cult taking aim at mitt romney and john huntsman. >> part of a pastor's job is to warn his people and others about false religions. islam, hinduism, buddhism, and mo mormonism are all false religions and i stand by those statements. >> what do you want to say to this pastor? >> well, it's unfortunate that one person is driving the narrative during a time when we have 15 million unemployed. we have two wars abroad and an uncertain position in the world. we have failing schools and the most important election of my lifetime in the 2012 election cycle. the fact that some moron can stand up and mach a comment like
that, you know, first of all it's outrageous. second of all, we're spending so much time discussing it makes it even worse. the questions that come after the foreign policy speech are focused on religion as opposed to our place in the world. this does not help the american people come to terms with the choices that they have in the 2012 election cycle. let's stick to the big issues that matter and leave religion off the table. >> which is a fair point. i want to get to your foreign policy, domestic policy in a moment. what do you sty some of your fellow republicans presidential candidates who don't acknowledge that you're a christian? >> well, i don't have any time to discuss this kind of issue. i say let less respect religious beliefs. let's show a little more tolerance in terms of what people's belief systems are.
thomas jefferson got it right when he spoke about tolerance for religions and the fact this they wouldn't play a role in american politics. and here we sit over 200 years later spending more time than it's worth on this very subject. let's stick to the core issues that affect our position in the world and regaining our competitive core in the 21st century and leave the rest to the side. >> i suspect, i know you, governor, if one of your supporters who introduced you at a major policy conference were to say awful things about another republican presidential candidate, you would distance yourself very, very quickly from that pastor or someone else. are you concerned that rick perry who was introduced by this pastor is really not distancing himself challenging, going after this pastor in a way that you would like him to? >> make an immediate and
decisive break, period. this kind of talk, i think, has no home in american politics these days. you know, anyone who is associated with somebody willing to make those comments out of stand up and distance themselves in very bold language. >> why is herman cain doing so well in all of these most recent polls? >> well, everyone has had an opportunity to be the flavor of the week. you know, we've been in this race a little over three months. we have had five frontrunners and five or six months and they go up and they go down. i think he has captured the imagination of some of the activists in the party. he's had a good debate performance. he's a compelling speaker. what i hope these people goin look at is beyond just the periphery. what has a candidate done in terms of leadership and in terms of leading a state and in terms of leading large complicated
entities? what do candidates know about america's role in the world in the # 1st century? what are they putting forward in terms of real proposals that are not just proposals for the sake of putting forward ideas but that are realistic in terms of what can get done. i put forward an economic proposal that "wall street journal" has come out and endorsed. today we had a foreign policy speech in where we talk about creating a vision that is 21st century focused as opposed to the post-world war ii model. these are the kinds of things that ultimately are going to sink in with the voters. first here in new hampshire. and i like the fact that we're beginning to get traction in this state. i like that we have packed town hall meetings, people coming out, republicans and independents coming out who are looking for vision. they're looking for solutions. they're looking for a practical pathway forward. that's what we're providing. >> you've been distinguishing yourself and moving away from the other candidates on the issues. a lot of folks are wondering, do you regret in that first
republican debate raising your hand when you were asked if you would support ten to one, $10 in spending cuts to $1 in tax increases, you went along with all the other republican candidates. was that a mistake? >> i don't like tax increases. when you raise your hand, you don't have enough time to say well my tax policy actually calls for the phasing out of all the loopholes and deductions. i would take that revenue and reinvest it back in the tax code. you know, it shows how we have dumb down the whole debate process. where we talk more about vaccinations, talk more about books and what they have to say about social security nonsense. and we focus much less on the truly important issues like tax reform, like regulatory reform, like energy independence and like our position abroad. but when you're asked just to raise a hand, you don't have any chance beyond that to complain it. does it put people in an awkward position and, of course, your knee jerk reaction is to say i don't like tax increases, i'm not going to allow tax increases. there is more to it that meets
the eye. get the work of the country done. that is not happening today. there is no leadership. there is no ability to get the work done. we're finger pointing. we're taking cheap shots at each other. we're becoming more partisan with each passing month. all the while the american people want action. they just want the work of their country done. >> john huntsman speaking with me earlier in the week. herman cain is making a surge in the polls. he found himself in the hot seat at this week's republican debate and at issue, his so-called 999 plan to restructure the u.s. tax code. tom foreman is taking a closer look. the other candidates, at least several of them, for the first time are really going after herman cain right now. >> they are. the truth is i'm not the only one. people all over this town are scrutinizing this 999 plan, trying to say what does this thing really mean? it's featured on his web page. what it means in a simple way is 9% sales tax, a 9% income tax
and a 9% corporate tax rate that, seems simple enough. it's easy to get the idea of what you're going to do with it. but when you talk about what this would actually do, you have to say how much money would this generate if things went the same way? now there have been various efforts to break this down. and i have to tell you right up front, all of these numbers are very, very squishy. because he's talking about changing so much that he could actually change the way we buy things and the way we act which would change all of these numbers. none of less, these are the numbers that we're talking about. right now our current tax revenue is $2.16 trillion. under this plan, one estimate which is up here by political fact came up with $1.76 trillion. there are others that come closer to $2 trillion. and everybody says these numbers are really squishy. we don't know what to make of this. maybe that's right. maybe it would come short like
this. the main problem is we're changing so much at once under this 999 plan that nobody seems to be able to prove with any reasonable certainty what it would actually do. the complaint that's people have is the 9% would replace payroll taxes. but poor and middle class americans would pay more under this, particularly poor americans. corporate income tax, 9% there. at the surface, if you look at the plan as he described it, this would be a huge drop in corporate tax rates if you like that, great. you're happy. a lot of people won't like that. and the 9% national sales tax, this would be in addition to state sales tax. it adds a burden to lower and middle income earners, for sure. a 9% national sales tax, what that means is the car that you were going to buy for $20,000 is now going to be $22,000. and you're going to apply that
to everything you buy. so it's really hard to figure out what's going to actually happen with all of this. it's a very catch qui phrase, 999, but the reality is a lot more complex and nobody knows what it's going to be. we do know this, it's so catchy that even spirit airlines jumped onboard offering a 999 vacation plan. we just don't know if there are catches in the phrase that we may not like in reality. >> yeah. people are looking closer and closer at 999. tom, thank you. growing union problem for president obama, at least potentially a key part of his base not very happy right now with the new free trade area agreement deals. plus, a courtroom surprise in a closely watched terror trial, the so-called underwear bomber. nationwide insurance, talk to me.
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be necessarily completely on board. let's bring in our white house correspondent dan loathian. what you are picking up over there? >> reporter: what we're talking about is some union members. they think the trade deals that are being tout the by the white house and others as job creators will actually cost some 200,000 u.s. jobs through outsourcing. with the president's low approval ratings, the question is asked whether this might further alienate his supportersment we saw tsupporte. we saw the president making his case to the state of pennsylvania. president obama was in friendly territory tuesday as he toured a training senter in pittsburgh, seeing classrooms, labs and equipment. >> would this be a typical for a big industrial building? >> exactly. >> all pieces of the president's effort to put unemployed americans back to work. >> training workers with the skills they need to compete for good jobs.
>> unions supported the president, critical to his 012 re-election success. but they're not buying everything in the president's economic basket. while unions seem squarely behind his $447 billion jobs bill, they've blasted the three trade deals with south korea, colombia and panama. they cost jobs. we have a 9.1% unemployment rate. the last thing in the world we need to do is be putting more people out of work. >> reporter: the afl-cio ran this ad. labor leaders met with lawmakers face-to-face. >> how do you deal with this conflict with the president who really believes that trade deals will lead to jobs in the united states? >> it's tough. it dampens the enthusiasm of our membership. >> reporter: the white house is on a campaign to prove the president's point that, the deals will help, not hurt the u.s. economy. >> to hear what they have to say, to explain why he's taken
the position that he has, why he believes so strongly and ambassador kirk believes so strongly that we have the best trade deals possible in addition to trade adjustment assistance that is going to help workers who are trying to maneuver through this new economy. >> now to further drive this point home, the president traveled also this week to detroit, michigan. it is an area that has an unemployment rate of more than 11%. he toured gm plant there along with the president of south korea, president lee. talking about the tens of thousands of jobs that these trade deals will help create and how it will boost exports by 13 billion dollars a year. but i'll tell you, wolf, unions are still very skeptical and their also concerned that trade deals don't go far enough in addressing the problem of workers' rights. >> dan, thanks very much. dan loathian over at the white house. the so-called underwear bomber surprised just about everyone this week. you're going to find out what he
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a dramatic twist in that christmas day terror plot which nearly brought down a commercial airliner and changed airport security screening as we know it. >> reporter: in a major surprise on day two of his trial, the accused underwear bomber pleaded guilty to all eight charges against him including conspiracy to commit terrorism and attempted murder.
after a long recess, he replied, "i plead guilty to each count" read to him about it judge. sounding defiant, he read a statement admitting his guilt saying he did it to avend the death of innocent muslims. i am guilty of this by u.s. law. but not in the koran. he warned the united states if it continued to kill muslims, a calamity would befall the country. "if you laugh the us now, we will laugh at you later". his stand by counsel and legal counsel spoke outside the courthouse. >> pleaing to something when there is a life sentence is not something i recommend. >> reporter: it's been two years since he turned wanta be suicide bomber and tried to blow up delta flight 253 with a bomb plant the in his underwear. the bomb contained a compound used in other al qaeda plots. prosecutors were pleased with
the outcome. >> there are other options available. but i believe that the civilian court system is a valid use. it's gay tool in the terrorism toolbox. >> reporter: passengers aboard the plane were ready to testify against him in court. >> he was guilty. he put terror in children's eyes. >> reporter: he said sat two rows behind him and tried to put the fire out with his hat. >> but it's overwith, thank god. we all made it. >> reporter: the underwear bomber now faces life in prison. his sentencing will be in january. cnn, detroit. the ripple effect of the nba lockout, why it's impacting thousands of people's jobs, even if they have nothing to do directly with basketball. plus, jeannie moose and the casest bik of the biker versus antelope. nothing helped me beat arthritis pain.
it's a labor stalemate that has already cost nba players and coaches. i'm just one of the league's fans angered by the lockout. but my livelihood doesn't depend on whether or not they play. our casey wian did speak to some who do rely on basketball. casey? >> reporter: wolf, from atlanta to los angeles to salt lake city, there are worries about the impact a prolonged nba labor
dispute could have on local economies. the farm of beverly hills near staples center relies on customers going to lakers and clippers games for about a third of its business during basketball season. ceo fran berger is preparing for a long lull. >> staffing's going to get cut way back. everything's going to get cut way back. we won't be buying as much. we won't be having as many people working those nights and those hours. it's going to hit a lot of people. >> reporter: restaurant workers making minimum wage plus tips. arena employees making $11 an hour. >> i understand as far as all the union talks. i know they have to negotiate everything. but there's other people out there that actually need the money. >> my wife and i, we can't go on vacations. and that's just those things we have to cut back on. i have to make sure i watch out for the bills that i have. so i don't want to overspend myself now. >> reporter: the loss is particularly hard for workers in businesses near staples center, home to two nba teams and the potential for 82 nights plus
playoffs in lost revenue. in atlanta restaurants near phillips arena already are reeling from the recent relocation of the thrashers professional hockey team. now the nba's hawks are gone until mid november at least. >> there's definitely going to be a decrease in business on what would have been home games. we usually get a nice pop two hours before the game. then depending on how they do, some after-game business also. >> you've got the lakers in town or you've got lebron in town, then it becomes a whole day affair. >> reporter: restaurants in some cities say convention and concert business will help soften the blow but not for 2,000 unionized workers at nba arenas in california. >> we have billionaires disputing in a dispute with millionaire ball players. and typically, as is happening across america, it's the working people that suffer the most. >> reporter: the ceo of this restaurant doesn't expect a deal before january. >> if the nfl can figure it out, i don't know why the nba can't figure it out. >> reporter: in some cities
arena workers are unionized, and they're very concerned they may not be able to put in the minimum number of hours required to qualify for health insurance. wolf? >> casey, thank you. and check out my blog, cnn.com/situationroom. i write about this nba lockout. biker versus antelope. jeanne moos has the fallout from an amazing encounter. plus, strong waves in mexico as a monster hurricane strikes. hot shots, coming up next.
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it's hard to tell a story -- >> are you okay, dude? >> reporter: -- when you don't remember what happened. >> as the buck hit me, i was knocked unconscious. so i actually don't know much of the actual experience myself. >> reporter: but we won't forget the moaning of 17-year-old evan van der spuy. [ moaning ] what was that noise coming out of you? >> i didn't even know i could make those noises. >> reporter: for a minute i thought that that was the antelope. >> reporter: though evan managed to stand up, he doesn't remember a thing till he was in an ambulance headed for an overnight stay in a hospital. evan suffered whiplash and a concussion. meanwhile, the buck was later spotted grazing as if nothing had happened. the good news for evan, "hey, could have been a rhino." the video was shot by a camera attached to his teammate's bike. >> how many times have you looked at the video? >> hundreds. i'm still trying to make sense of it myself.
every time i look at it it's one big shock. >> reporter: maybe it's just payback. after all, we hit them all the time. just last year i hit a deer. and i had the deer hair stuck in my car's front grill to prove it. that was traumatic enough. but this colorado man was biking down a hill and hit a bear back in 2008. >> this gigantic bear head with huge teeth was surprised to see me and i was surprised to see him. i think it was almost like a cartoon. we both screamed. >> reporter: evan didn't have time to scream. he says his helmet, which was almost split apart by the impact, saved his life, and he expects the helmet maker to make a commercial. we can see it now. the first ad for a helmet proven to be -- >> antelopeproof. >> reporter: as the description on youtube put it, the buck stops here. >> oh! holy cow! >> reporter: it's the human's turn to be road kill.