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pacquiao pacquiao-marquez 3 "saturday night live" on pay-per-view. an interview with victim number one psychologist but first we want to take you live to state college, pennsylvania. students there are holding a vigil in solidarity with the alleged victims at the center of the still unfolding crisis. in a moment we will talk to the mental health professional who's been treating victim number one. today his mom spoke out. >> i want justice. i want him to be locked up. there's no help for somebody that does this. there's not like this. he needs to be put away. he needs to be put away for a long time. >> her identity, obviously, hidden there.
that appeared on "good morning america." she's talking about former penn state football coach jerry sandusky, once a top assistant and possible successor to the legendary joe paterno. he's now facing a 40-count indictment. the allegations detailed a nauseating 23-page grand jury report. in it, the boy whose mother you just heard from is known as victim number one. according to the grand jury document, victim number one testified that ultimately sandusky performed oral sex on him more than 20 times through 2007 and early 2008. but even though he's called victim number one, he's actually the last in a long line of alleged victims that stretches back to the 1990s. we have detailed the abuses, especially two alleged incidents, one in 1998 and one in 2002. the first, a series of fondling incidents was reported to campus and local police as well as university officials and pennsylvania's child welfare agency. ultimately, nothing more was done. the second major alleged incident was simply grotesque. in 2002, the alleged rape of a
10-year-old in a campus locker room shower. again, nothing done beyond the university barring sandusky from bringing boys into the locker room. that was it. boys, by the way, he's accused of recruiting from the children's charity that he founded. and that goes to the heart of the scandal. to put it bluntly, was what happened over the years a cover-up. mostly cloudy query who says he witnessed the 2002 rape was a graduate assistant at the time. that's him now. since then he was promoted to assistant coach, but he's now on administrative leave. he says that back in 2002 he gave details of what he saw to joe paterno, who told his boss, athletic director tim curley. mcqueary also briefed curley and gary shulgs, penn state's vice president for finance and business who also oversaw campus police. here's what is really stunning, shultz said he never sought or received a report on the 1998 incident from campus police. remember, there was a paper trail, a police report that was never sought out, even though this was the second serious
allegation, yet they, local police, the county d.a. and child welfare authorities did nothing more about it. now, sandusky retired from coaching at the peak of his career no less to spend more time with second mile, his charity. then again, four years later, even more serious allegations and even less was done about them. now, the university did nothing except bar jerry sandusky from bringing any more kids from his second mile program into the football building and notify second mile. and second mile didn't bar sandusky from contact with kids. let me repeat that. sandusky's charity did not bar him from having contact with kids until 2008 when he notified them he was the subject of a grand jury investigation. yet many people knew or had reason to know about the 1998 and 2002 allegations, including, apparently, penn state general counsel wendell courtney, who reviewed the 1998 report on sandusky. that's according to the grand jury filing. now, at the time he was and remains counsel for, guess what, second mile.
courtney claims that last part is mistaken, but a spokesman for the pennsylvania attorney general's office told the "pittsburgh post-gazette," quote, it is clear from the findings of the grand jury that mr. courtney had direct dealings with both penn state and the second mile and he acknowledged and was aware of the 1998 incident. so that's raising suspicions, was there a conflict of interest. also raising questions tonight, how did just about everyone know about the 1998 allegations except head coach joe paterno, who says his first inkling of trouble with sandusky was in 2002. was he being protected? was he aware and not being truthful? we don't know. also raising questions about a possible motive for hushing up a scandal, big money renovations going on in 1998 to beaver stadium, 60 luxury sky boxes and 12,000 more seats being added, paid for my donations that might have dried up if there had been a scandal. there are a lot of questions tonight. we begin, though, with a 360 exclusive.
my conversation moments ago with psychologist mike gilum, who is counseling victim number one. how is victim number one doing right now? >> obviously any individual that sustained this kind of abuse, you know, they typically suffer from anxiety, depression. they have a lot of concern that's very humiliating to have to not only experience this but then to, you know, have to discuss it with law enforcement. it's difficult then to be fearful or live in fear that others may determine who you are, your identity, and, you know, they may or may not, you know, approach you about it. and again, very awkward, very embarrassing for the individual, even though he's a hero, not necessarily something that everyone understands or appreciates.
>> i do think that's a really important point that the public understand is just the role this young man played in setting off the chain of events setting off the investigation, which ultimately, you know, led to these charges. at this point, what do you think people should know? there's obviously a lot you can't say, but what do you think people should know about what happened here? >> people should know that there's a power differential between the victim and the perpetrator, and the more status the perpetrator has, whether it be status in the family or in the community, the more difficult it's going to be for the victim to come forward, and in particular expect to be believed when they do tell what happened to them. >> what's your impression of how
other officials at penn state dealt with the information that they knew? >> well, i think, yes, there's many different witnesses and probably the reasons vary somewhat among those witnesses. i think some were probably very intimidated or fearful about what may happen to them should they make a report, but as a psychologist i'm still stunned that this number of individuals actually did what they did in the cover-up. >> so you believe there was a cover-up? >> i believe that, yes, certain individuals did not -- i know they didn't pass the information forward to law enforcement. >> michael gillum, i really appreciate your time tonight. please give our best to the family involved, and i hope they know how many thoughts and prayers are with them. michael, thank you.
>> thank you. and you're very welcome. >> i just want to point out mr. gillum was very careful not to talk about specifics about his client, victim number 1, or any of the details of the ongoing investigation because it is obviously ongoing. that is one side of the story. jason carroll joins us now live from state college with the other side. we understand you met with sandusky's attorney today. what did he say? >> reporter: well, first off, joseph abendola spoke specifically about victim number 1. sandusky simply says, anderson, it is not true. he says those allegations simply did not happen. he also says he is anxious to defend himself against those specific allegations. he said, quote, i want to fight this. he says it started out as allegations of fondling and then sandusky's lawyers say it went from allegations of fondling very quickly to a sexual assault case. once again, sandusky's lawyer
telling me tonight that those allegations from victim number one, as well as thoetss other allegations from the other seven victims outlined in that grand jury report simply are not true. >> jason, you know, it's interesting you say that, jason, because i specifically talked to michael gillum, the psychologist for victim number 1, about what i assume was going to be the defense attorney's tactic, which was basically to say, well, the story shifted over time of this boy, this young man, and maybe he was coached. michael gillum when i asked him about that said often defense attorneys use that strategy. michael gillum said in his questioning of victim number 1, he was extraordinarily careful in how he asked the questions. he has a lot of experience in talking to kids who have suffered abuse and knows how not to lead them, so he is certainly prepared for that strategy from the defense. >> reporter: i think what you're
going to end up seeing in this, anderson, is both sides preparing themselves as best they can. this is a case that has received so much publicity that it would be a mistake for any defense attorney not to do everything that he or she could to speak out or defend their particular client. but all i can do is just tell you what this defense attorney is saying about that, and basically he said not only with this particular case but some of the other allegations that are being presented as well, he said that there are a lot of inconsistencies in the stories that are not coming out yet, but he says they will. anderson. >> also when i talked to the psychologist, he pointed out that it is very common for particularly teenage accusers, when they come forward, teenage victims when they come forward for their stories to shift because often what they tell initially are the least egregious examples of abuse, because of the embarrassment and sense of shame, humiliation, and it's only later as they become more comfortable that they reveal the full details of what happened.
jason, again, i appreciate all your reporting for the last couple of days on this. let us know what you think. we're on facebook or google, add us to your circle or follow me on twitter, @anderson cooper. jerry sandusky retired at the top of his coaching game. that's important because at the age he retired he should have been able to get a job elsewhere but he didn't. we will look at his career on the field and his charity. were there clues back then there could be something very wrong? did other people know that and is that why he didn't get another job? more syrians died today. the government's brutal crackdown shows no signs of slowing, this after, remember, they had promised their policy was going to change. instead it seems to have worsened an intensified, the deaths and the killings.
tonight a new report details how common murder and torture are in syria. we will speak to one brave syrian man telling his bravery tonight. i think it will inspire you. let's check in with aisha. >> this is the most remarkable story. congresswoman gabby giffords shot in the head suffered a severe brain injury ten months ago but she is on her way back walking and talking and along with her husband telling her incredible story. it's a story dr. sanjay gupta has been following very closely and he'll be here with the
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looking at the penn state campus and state college. a candle light vigil held for the victims. jerry sandusky is charged with 40 counts of the alleged sexual abuse of eight kids over 15 years. he retired at the peak of his career to spend more time with his charity, allegedly. a charity he founded to help troubled children, kids he claimed to love. the timing of the retirement is raising questions tonight. more on that from mary snowe. >> this is the last game for jerry sandusky with, in the alamo bowl broadcast by espn. after the victory, players dumped gatorade on him, an honor ublly reserved for the head coach, a fitting end to a storied career. >> that's his son john.
a special moment right there. >> more than two decades, sandusky was the coach of a football team dubbed linebacker u. he was named assistant coach of the year. many considered him the heir apparent to joe paterno. but sandusky walked away from it all at the age of 55 when most coaches are in their prime. never to coach college football again. the question is why? was penn state trying to move him out of their program because they knew of the allegations against sandusky. for his part, sandusky said he stepped down to focus on his charity, the second mile. he went on to volunteer as a high school football coach. still it was clear, he had coveted joe paterno's job. i wouldn't call it devastating, sandusky told "sports illustrated" that was definitely a goal of mine when i started. the grand jury report paints a similar picture. in it victim number four who had t been at the stands at the alamo bowl and said that
sandusky tried to rape him described sandusky emotionally upset after meeting with joe paterno and told he would not be the next head coach at penn state. victim number four said that occurred in 199 before sandusky announced his retirement. by then officials were made aware of disturbing allegations from victim number six's mother. in 1998 she complained to university police about her son being forced to shower with sandusky. detectives opened an investigation and listened on the phone as the mother confronted him. a detective testified sandusky admitted to hugging her son and even showering with other boys. telling her "i was wrong. i wish i could get forgiveness. i know i won't get it from you. i wish i were dead. despite that admission, the investigation was closed without any charges ever being filed against sandusky.
he was named professor emeritus when he officially retired in 1999 retaining access to penn state facilities, including the locker room showers where prosecutors say he abused and assaulted other boys. sandusky denies the charges against him and now many of his former players are shocked by what has happened to the coach they held in high esteem. >> and as a coach and as a person, he was top notch. i saw the way he interacted with, you know, myself, my other teammates, even with the second mile program. i saw how he interacted with the kids and he seemed like a great, great person. >> reporter: mary snow, cnn, state college, pennsylvania. >> it seems a whole different story right now. jason carroll is back from state college and cory gigger. and cnn senior cnn analyst jeffrey toobin is joining us as well. sandusky retired at what some thought was early in his career.
isn't that odd looking back? >> very strange and there is ever reason to believe that joe paterno knew a lot about those 1998 allegations. one interesting story is at sandusky's retirement dinner, there was a peculiar situation. joe spoke very briefly, only a few words, a minute or so. only stayed at the celebration for a few minutes and left. it was odd to people at the time. no one knew why. you would think that joe would have stayed for a long time. but there was ever reason to believe looking back on that that joe was probably disgusted by the 1998 allegation and kind of wanted to distance himself as much as possible from jerry. so therefore -- but that begs the question, why was he allowed to coach the 1999 season? >> that's an extraordinary idea
that if he knew about the 1998 allegations and at the retirement didn't didn't want to harngd because of his thoughts on sandusky, what is extraordinary and the significance of it, explain it to our viewers is sandusky continued to have privileges where he could and was seen bringing children to the facilities and in 2002 he was accused of raping a child inside the locker room, in the shower room at penn state. so, if paterno knew in 1998 or '99 and still allowed this guy to have privileges, that's extraordinary. >> yeah, it's very troubling. even after the 2002 incident, he was spotted with a child at a practice in 2007. so you have to figure, you would think joe and mike mcqueary, the receiver's coach who was a key figure in all of this, you would think that they would have seen jerry with a child at that practice and knew he was working with children at the second mile.
so again troubling and unsettling if you add it up. so many people you would think would have had to known about the incidents in 1998 and 2002 and still said nothing and that is really why when you look over the totality of this you just have to wonder why so many people did not come forward. >> jason, so you talked to sandusky's attorney, as we talked about earlier. did he say anything about why sandusky would be showering with a young boy or with several young boys? why would you he be in a shower with a boy in 1998 and why again in 2002? >> >> he did actually. and again, this comes from his attorney. he basically told me this, this was his explanation for this for now. he said you have to look at it, jason, from the aspect of an athlete. he said a lot of athletes shower with each other after a game, after a practice, and because he was working in an environment
with athletes, according to his attorney, sandusky's attorney, he said that was his explanation for him showering with these young boys. i know that sounds incredulous, as i say it, but again, you have to remember this is his defense attorney. that's what his job is, to start building a defense. and that's what he's saying, at least for now, about his explanation in terms of why sandusky seemed to be showering with these boys repeatedly. and he admits to that. so we'll have to see how that ends up shaking out in court, but that's his explanation for now. >> yeah, we know one of the boy's mother actually confronted him about that and he said he didn't plan on stopping the practice. jeff, there are reports that sandusky may have molested one of the victims while in texas. is it possible that he could face charges in pennsylvania and texas as well as federal charges? >> well, there is so much -- that 23-page report, it's detailed, but it raises so many questions. and that is certainly one of
them. did he transport these kids? there's a famous old federal law called the man act, sometimes called the white slavery act, a really old law, which involves taking people across state lines, usually young men, but it -- usually young women, but it can apply to men, usually for purposes of sex. if he brought some kid to texas or brought someone from texas to pennsylvania, that would certainly raise that possibility. i mean you have the department of education investigating, you have the pennsylvania attorney general, penn state is investigating internally. i mean there is a lot that i am sure is still to come out in this case. >> what are some of the other questions that the grand jury report raises for you, jeff? >> well, the most important certainly is what did joe paterno know and when did he know it. i mean there is only one reference in those 23 pages to paterno being informed of a sexual conduct involving sandusky. it's the 2002 incident where mike mcqueary, the then graduate
assistant, now assistant coach, sees a rape in progress in the showers and tells paterno. that's the only time he's informed of anything. is it plausible, is it believable that in all these years, '98, '99, all the way to 2011 paterno didn't hear anything else? i thought that was a fascinating story about the dinner in 1999, the farewell dinner. that suggests he knew something then. year after year him knowing something and what did he do, that's a real big unanswered question in this case. >> and so with mcqueary as well, we don't know. how is it that -- what i can't wrap my mind around is how is it you witness a child being raped, don't try to intervene in that
second, only alert your superior, you know, the coach paterno and then have one other interview about it and then continue to be in that program, work in that program, work in that stadium and not every day try to find out what exactly happened and what's being done about what you witnessed. >> and what happened to the kid, is the kid okay. only two people so far have been charged under the pennsylvania law that says you have to report child molestation accusations, the athletic director and the vice president. that investigation is certainly going to continue and i would not be surprised to see more charges. >> jason carroll, cory gichlt >> cory gigger, jeff toobin, thank you to all of you. coming up a closer look at the assistant coach, mike mcqueary, who says he saw jerry sandusky rape a boy in 2002 and reported to joe paterno. mcqueary is on administrative leave. we'll look at how he got his start at penn state and his history with paterno. also an arab league deal
that was supposed to stop the violence in syria. tonight reports nothing has changed, not by a long shot. in fact, the bloodshed seems to be getting worse. syrian security forces have killed more than 100 people since that deal. 100 people since that deal. coming up, speaking with a very brave voice from inside syria, an activist who says the deaths continue and enough is enough. [
penn state assistant coach mike mcqueary reportedly says he is in protective custody at a secluded location that's not at state college. the local newspaper is reporting mcqueary talked to players by speakerphone today after he was put on indefinite administrative leave. during the call, team sources say that mcqueary told the players he wanted to let them know he's not their coach anymore. mcqueary saw jerry sandusky allegedly raping a 10-year-old boy back in 2002, or a boy estimated to be around 10. once again, here's mary snow. >> reporter: his name is mike mcqueary, an assistant football coach at penn state. an it's what he saw in 2002, say authorities, that led in part to child sex abuse charges against former coach jerry sandusky. sandusky maintains his innocence. mcqueary grew up around penn state, becoming a quarterback for the team under coach joe paterno.
he would later hope to follow in paterno's footsteps as head coach. at 28 when he was a graduate assistant, according to a grand jury report, he alleges he witnessed sandusky raping a boy believed to be 10 years old in a locker room shower at penn state. mcqueary was described as being distraught and leaving immediately, turning to his father and then going to coach joe paterno. paterno told grand jurors he was made aware that sandusky was doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy. "the new york times" quoted a person familiar with mcqueary's account as saying mcqueary did tell the full story to paterno and others at penn state. this past week, paterno has insisted he didn't know the full extent of what's been alleged. with paterno and the penn state president ousted, questions are now focused on mcqueary, who's keeping his assistant coaching job. on campus there are open calls
for mcqueary to also go. many question why he didn't call police. >> i wasn't in his position but i feel like any normal human being when they see something like that happening, they would react a lot more with better intent than he did. >> i figure if you're going to fire joe paterno, you should fire him because he did exactly the same thing joe paterno did. >> reporter: mcqueary's father, john, told us he's been advised not to talk because he's a witness in the investigation. as for his son, john mcqueary is quoted in "the new york times" saying he thinks it's eating up his son not being able to tell his side of the story, and adds, he'll make it, he's a tough kid. pennsylvania's attorney general has stressed that grand jurors found mike mcqueary to be a credible witness. cnn has reached out to mcqueary several times, but so far hasn't gotten a response. others here at penn state involved in the investigation have said that they have been advised not to talk. mary snow, cnn, state college pennsylvania. >> we're going to continue to follow this. there's a lot more to learn
still ahead. let's check in on some other stories. >> isha is back with a 360 bulletin. >> president obama marked veterans day by laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns at the arlington national cemetery. in his remarks he noted with the wars in afghanistan and iraq winding down, this holiday season will be one of homecomings. he also urged americans to hire returning vets. mexico's interior minister died in a helicopter crash today south of mexico city. the crash killed seven other people. there were no survivors. the cause of the crash is being investigated. the greek government has a new leader tonight. economist lucas papademos has been formally sworn in as interim prime minister. one of his first orders of business is the controversial
>> i was lifting, you know, chairs out of the way, broken glass, other sanitary items i don't want to get into, but it was horrific, to say the least. >> well, better to sift through the garbage dump than be in the dog house for the rest of his life. >> yeah, that's for sure. all right, let's check out this shot. we found this on youtube under the term oscar. my very weird hand stand paying dog. how can you not look at with that kind of headline. it is not a bait and switch trick. take a look. >> here we go. >> ew! >> that is the weirdest thing. he clearly was streaming video. his paw stand lasts a full 20 seconds. that's pretty amazing there.
>> and he just -- yeah. i don't know is that nature or nurture. someone taught him that. >> is that nature or nurture? gosh, i hope somebody did not teach him that. we'll check in with you a little later on. let's turn to a former story. a case of amish on amish violence. such a bizarre series of attacks we've been documenting. surprising suspects in this latest attack. we'll tell you about that ahead. also a new report shedding light on the violence syria's government is trying to hide from the world. we'll speak to a man who knows it all too well and is risking his own safety tonight to tell you his story. toothpaste is the
two dozen civilians in the latest round of violence today. a tragedy that's now all too common. according to a new report just out from human rights watch. international journalists as you know are barred from syria. so cnn is unable to independently confirm what is happening on the ground there. the report from human rights watch calls on the international community to step in and protect the syrian people.
the regime reneged on a deal to withdraw troops from cities and allow international monitors. since then according to human rights watch, more than 100 syrians have been killed and the bloody crackdown shows no signs of slowing down. i spoke with one brave man who wanted to offer his firsthand account of what he has seen. zadu ne is from the city of dara, and he spoke to us from damascus. he insisted that we identify him by his real name, despite fears of repercussions. you live in dara, what happened there today? >> i live in dara but i'm right now in damascus. throughout this week nothing changed from before the initiative. the same killing is happening on a daily basis. shooting, arresting people, firing at peaceful demonstrators. the regime seemingly doesn't want to move to a peaceful transition.
to the democracy of syria. i don't know when this will last. on a daily basis we are losing 20, 25 people. today we lost almost 25 people. a quarter of them possibly in dara and maybe other places where we are facing war against the people. >> november is turning out to be one of the bloodiest months in syria that we have seen. to your knowledge has the assad regime complied with any of the agreement they came up with with the arab league? have they lived up to any of them? >> not a single one. there is no sign of anything happening in the future. >> you have coordinated demonstrations, you've attended demonstrations in dara and damascus. who's on the streets? who's attending the demonstrations?
if you listen to the assad regime they say it is iz islamists, armed foreigners and gangs. >> people on the streets are from universities, from different sects. they were not islamists. they were not from one sect. they were not the poor people. it's everybody. >> you're being extraordinarily brave. you're using your full name, you're asking us to use your full name, you're telling us where you are. i know you've been interrogated by syrian security forces. why are you still willing to speak out and use your name? >> because it's enough. people are dying over there for just saying freedom. i'm telling the regime it's enough. don't think people will go back to their homes after eight months, you still believe a lie, that you can control and overcome this uprising. it is impossible. you can just do one thing now, save more lives, please. stop the killing.
when i chant "i want freedom" i can hear my voice for the first time in my life. now how can i give up this, even if it costs me my life? >> what does that feel like to be the age that you are and to be able to hear your voice for the first time? that's an extraordinary statement, to hear -- that you're hearing your voice for the first time. >> you know, anderson, you don't know this feeling. maybe you were born free. you could always say whatever you liked to say. but when you dismiss that for 30 years and you think you can't do this and this is something impossible, something you don't have to think of, believe me when you do it, then you can just easily give up your life after that. >> i hope to meet you one day in syria. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> stay safe. still ahead on "360" another attack in amish country. elderly men assaulted, their hair and beards cut.
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the z340 will let you do minor editing and cropping and select which oneses you want to print but it will cost you about $300. united introduced the first commercial flight partly fuelled by algae based jet fuel. airline analysts describe it as an eco friendly publicity stunt but says it sets the stage for greater use of biofuels when they are less expensive. erin burnett is "outfront" >> what would you do if your iphone wasn't work something forget the genius guys at the mac store. one genius guy called 911 and called his way on to the ridiculist next.
tonight we are adding a man who ran this to a little trouble this week. according to authorities in illinois he called 911 to report, wait for it, that his iphone wasn't working. when i say he called 911 to report his iphone wasn't working, i mean he called five times. if only there were examples over the years that it may have taught him that it is only to be used in case of an emergency. i just ordered some food and the manager took my money and won't give me my money back. they are trying to make me --
>> i can relate. who among us hasn't thought to ourselves, this lack of chicken nuggets is something for the police to look in to. let's hit the sirens and sent in the s.w.a.t. team. not like this is an epidemic across the country from florida to oregon, oh, wait. it did happen in oregon. >> i was at a mcdonalds and i paid $10 and these guys gave me one burger and a fry. >> this is not a 911 emergency. this is not nothing that someone can take me. >> you can't tell me i can't get a cop here at 82 and and sunny side i will sue. your office right now. >> of course not all misuse of 911 involves fast food disputes or broken iphones. some people just want advice. >> what's the location of your
emergency? >> let's not get in to that yet. >> is it life-threatening or an active crime in progress? >> crime in progress possibly. i was just growing some marijuana. i was just wondering, how much, you know, trouble you can get in to for one plant. >> he found out the answer to the that question, by the way when the police showed up at his house. let's be honest those are the exception, most calls to 911 involve true matters of life and death. >> i think i am having an overdose and so is my wife. >> of what. >> marijuana. >> do you have a fever or anything. >> i think we are dieing. >> how much did you have. >> i don't know. we made brownie and i think we're dead. i really do. time is going by really, really, really slow. what's the score in the red wings game? >> oh, the red wings score. the caller a police officer who confiscated the pot from suspects and the guy who called 911 about his