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saying republicans are cherry picking erk mails about the lay-off's time lines. it's true some republicans have made damning conclusions there are at a minimum well out ahead of the known facts. this is also true and critical now that the secretary of energy is going to take questions. there's more than a little smoke here, way more. and the people on the hook for a half billion dollars deserve answers. we'll watch the secretary tomorrow. we seal you then, too. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. e -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com on the front line of penn state. is the prosecution's case as open and shot as it seems. the tsa says their body scanners don't cause cancer, but they're not going to taste them. are they right? the bottom line on america's place in the world. china trying to become the superpower. what does the super committee and the president need to do? let's go "outfront."
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i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the market slid nearly 200 points today. the reason, fear and uncertainty. fear of europe and fear of the super committee. we are counting down to a huge moment for america on a day our commander in chief was warned china's military is building up with one main goal, taking on america. i'll get to that in a moment. first, the super committee is exactly one week away from its deadline to cut a minimum of $1.2 trillion from america's deficit. today was a day called critical by some lawmakers. the meetings have ended. there is no word on a possible deal. now, nearly 80% of americans don't expect the super committee to do its job. but no deal isn't just a chance to roll our eyes and say, hey, we knew it all along. no deal is bad for america. no deal means rising interest rates down the road and a halt in job creation now. we need a deal, and a deal is not hard to strike.
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we've shown one way repeatedly on this show. that's to roll back the bush tax cuts for everyone, raising 2.8 trillion, and then cut 2.8 trillion in spending. yes, that is pain for everyone. but nothing like the pain if we do nothing. and that size of a deal would make a big difference. world markets would celebrate. the one-for-one bush tax cuts for spending cuts is just one option. there are a lot of ways to get a deal done. while congress dithers and plays politics, our commander in chief is getting whack a moled by china. you're looking at a live picture of the president addressing the australian parliament. he's talking a lot about the role of china and the role in america. you can see they're listening, very closely. today he said he would station more u.s. marines down under. the unspoken goal, to scare china. the problem is china calls the shots in australia now a.
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congressional advisory committee to say says the white house and congress must focus on china's military buildup as their defense spending has tripled. china is rising. china is actually now australia's number one trading partner. china wants to take over america's role as ruler of the pacific. the pafrk is where the future is because it's where the people are. the president's trip through asia is an effort to remind asia that america is still the world's superpower. the one way to help it stay that way is not by speeches to the australian parliament. that might help. it's for the super committee to do its job. peter know var rah is an author of "death by china" and professor at uc berkeley. the president is speaking live in khan burr rah. you think the super committee's inaction could speed china's rise, right? >> absolutely, erin. we've got gridlock in washington, d.c. we don't know how to deal with the economy.
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my view is the super committee, if it said the best jobs program was trade reform with china, they'd get it right. the fact of the matter is, erin, china is already a stronger industrial power than we are in terms of nults and bolteds and weapons systems. over times, within five to ten years they'll have the weapons system to push us right out of the pacific. there's one missile that's really interesting called the bammer. it has one sole purpose. it's aimed at killing the american aircraft carriers in the pacific. they want us back to hawaii, erin. >> pretty amazing. for those who say, who cares? here is why we care. 90-plus percent of the trade around the world goes by sea. whoever controls the seas controls the world economy. that's still the united states at this moment. do you think, peter, their military is a real and present danger to the united states right now? >> without question. the reason why obama is in australia right now is there's a
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vacuum there in terms of american leadership. it's not just australia that wants him there, it's japan. it's south korea. it's vietnam is totally freaked out about what china is doing. it's all about what john king said in the previous hour about petroleum in the south china seas. china wants us out. they would like to also at some point take taiwan. it's been a long-term goal. and you're absolutely right. the straight of mill lack ka is where 70% to 80% of china's oil comes through. they fear at some point if we get into problems with them, our aircraft carriers could shut that down. so they want us out. they're developing the weapons systems. guess what erin? they get their weapon systems from stealing them from the pentagon, whether it's their airplanes, missiles or aircraft carriers. that's what they do, they steal from us. >> apparently when the helicopter went down the night
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of osama bin laden died, some say the pakistanis let them look at our technology there. >> it's amazing what we put up with. >> thank you very much. it is something that gives you a food for thought. it makes you wonder if congress is really going to step up to the plate and deal with this problem. let's turn to representative christie noems, republican congresswoman from zk. thank you for being with us. the president speaking now in australia at this very moment. congress warned today about the rise of china's military power which can only get stronger so far as their economy is growing and lending and ours is not growing and borrowing. is the super commit see going to do its job. >> the more debt we continue to accumulate, that's who has been borrowing our bonds. this super committee needs to come for ward. it's time to do our job in washington, d.c. and do something that offers solutions.
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>> you are a member who has been staunch in your belief that we don't need tax increases. mr. toomey came on this show, member of the super committee and said he had come around to the idea that the wealthiest americans would when they got through the loopholes and lowered the tax rate end up paying more after the super committee did its deal. >> i always said i'm not in favor of raising tax rates, but certainly in favor of a system which could mean eliminating loopholes that have been around for decades. if we can make sure we have a more fair system, absolutely, i would support that. the only thing i'm not in favor of is increasing tax rates that will drive companies to look overseas. we need jobs in this country. >> it sounds like you're saying something that is significant and perhaps conciliatory which is, all right, you'd rather have a lower rate. if you got rid of loopholes and
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that ended up some people ended up paying more all in, that's all okay, so you could get new revenue? >> i said from the beginning when i started running for congress and when i served in the south dakota state legislature, i'm coming here to reform taxes. we shouldn't be picking winners and losers with the government. that's what we're doing with our tax code. >> in direct answer to the question, you would be okay with some people paying more after. >> absolutely there will be more people paying more dollars in taxes. >> what are you doing to get the super committee to get a deal done? we're hearing every day, they say they're going to do a deal and we're getting really close to the deadline and there's a lot of finger pointing going on. there's got to be a deal. so what are you going to do to get them to get it done? >> we've got the pressure on. i'm the freshman liaison to the leadership team. the leadership team knows how the freshman class feels. we want them to offer something
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that's a real solution, something that really will fix our problems in this country. we've been very vocal about that. we're expecting them to bring forward results. if they don't, lit be very disappointing for us and we'll have to deal with sequestration at that point. >> i'm curious before we go, there was a letter put up that 100 congressmen and women signed, 60 democrats, 40 republicans, it said put everything on the table, whether that be new revenue in the form of taxes or spending cuts. but you didn't sign that, did you? >> no, i don't believe i did. there are hundreds of letters circulated around here every day. that doesn't sound familiar to me. >> thank you very much. appreciate you taking the time to join us tonight. >> i appreciate it, too. let's bring in john avlon, cnn director. john, are we going to get a deal done? >> look, we better. the reality is there's increased pessimism on capitol hill. i can't believe given the stakes of this that congressman noem didn't know whether or not she signed the letter. we've got 150 congressmen and
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women saying go big, we've got your back. that's the urgency we need. time is ticking. that $4 trillion remark seems like a distant probability, more like they'll barely get through with 1.2 if we're lucky. >> and that just doesn't do much for you at all. you come right back to the table. >> no. >> i'm just curious. that letter was an important letter, the one she didn't recall signing. you had all those people sign it. i'm curious what you think about the significance of that. she did just say she was for some people paying more in taxes to do a deal. >> she did. and that is where -- that is where the give and take can occur. if we can agree on closing loopholes to raise revenue without raising taxes, that's a way for us to get some revenue on the table and offset it with spending cuts and entitlement reform as well. look, democrats on the far left don't like the entitlement reform. republicans don't want to see loopholes closed unless they're
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offset. as we know the path that you've discussed, you can overlay bowles-simpson and the gang of six, we know the path. what we need them to do is go big now. right now what's troubling is you're starting to hear voices for both parties say let's do the minimum and kick the big deal until after the election. china would be laughing at us all the way. we're self sabotaging when it comes to dealing with really difficult problems. >> they would be laughing if we don't get it done. john avlon, thank you. still "outfront" newt gingrich surging in the polls. will new revelations about his dealings with freddie mac stop the momentum in his track. we have a new number for how much he was paid. bizarre details about a mother whose child is missing in washington state. the website she might have signed up for just before he disappeared. the man who allegedly fired two shots at the white house arrested in pennsylvania today.
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expectancy in the united states is just over 78 years. that basically means people are expected to work until they die. now to politics. newt gingrich is the latest republican to surge into the polls. you know what happens when that happens. well, the snipers come out. they are out in full force. he's under intense scrutiny for his dealings in particular with the government-backed mortgage giant freddie mac. grinning rich was paid at least $1.6 million according to a report today by bloomberg news. that's way more than previously reported which was about $300,000. what did he do for that $1.6 million? that's what the scrutiny is all about. >> mr. speaker, bloomberg is reporting today you earned $1.6 million from freddie mac. what did you do actually -- >> offered strategic advice over a long period of time. >> how much did you spend on a monthly basis for doing that kind of work? sounds like a lot of money. >> first of all, it wasn't paid to me. gingrich group was a consulting
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firm that had lots of people doing things. we offered strategic advice. >> you didn't -- >> sure, but i don't know the amounts. >> is the $1.6 million figure correct? >> i don't know. we're going back to check. >> it's a big number to not remember. a good number for strategic advice, isn't it? it's a sensitive subject for conserving who blame much of the financial crisis on poor lending by freddie and its little friend fannie. grinning rich has harshly criticized it. stephen mcmahon is a democratic strategist. sherry gentleman koebist is a republican strategist in d.c. we have our own david gergen with us at all. steve, let's be clear. no one is saying anything about this is illegal. but is it routine to get that kind of money, $1.6 million for consulting, strategic advice, a little bit of that and a little bit of this? >> it's actually more routine than most americans know. members of congress all the time
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go through the resolving door. on the other side they're greeted by contracts for strategic advice which means using your access and power to try to get somebody a better deal than a regular american can get. that's the challenge for the former speaker, is to explain why it is he took all this money, what it is he did for it and how it is that fits with his notion of radical transformational change. frankly it looks just like business as urinal. >> sherry, how big of a problem are the freddie mac payments are they? >> i think it's a bit of a paper tiger. when you stretch the years, it's actually less than what a lot of firms here in town make quite frankly. it didn't go to him, as he said. the reason he's unfamiliar with some of the details of it, erin, he does have employees, and i know this. this was just one of many of their clients. he also said the advice he gave them they didn't listen to. he said he warned them about the bubble and basically said you have bad lending practices.
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we know a lot of people were warning them. maybe they thought perhaps if they were paying him he would give a different response. i don't see this as a problem. i see this as making something out of nothing. >> hmm. what do you think, david gergen? >> a couple of things. first of all, what we're seeing is when you're a candidate who is down fifth, sixth or seventh, people don't pay a lot of attention to you. when you come up and you're a challenger as he is now, you get this kind of scrutiny. this is only the beginning of the scrutiny. there will be a lot about his personal life before it's over. on the facts amz we know them about this situation, i happen to agree that it does not seem to me he's done anything that is improper, much less illegal. he was hired -- i think it's objection able that these government agencies were paying people so much. he was one of many people.
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i think congress is going to try to put a stop to that. i think his only danger is if he mischaracterizes what he did or misleading people and he's found out. as to taking that much money over a long period of time, it doesn't rise to the level of something that usually causes a bunch of political trouble. >> it is amazing how we're the only country with a fannie and freddie and our homeowner ship isn't as high as other countries that don't have these generous mortgage deductions and we can't seem to get rid of them. let me throw this poll up and get each of you to respond. take a look at newt gingrich in a runoff against obama. mcclatchy maris poll, dead heat. steve? >> it demonstrates what we all know. 2012 will be a lot different than 2008. in new hampshire, president obama won new hampshire in 2008 by nine points over senator
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mccain. it's a classic swing state. what you're seeing really in this poll is two things. number one, mitt romney has been campaigning in newspaper newspaper f new hampshire for quite a long time. this is barack obama versus another candidate. whether the other candidate is mitt romney or newt gingrich even, it's going to be a close race because it's a close state. i think that's all we're seeing here. >> david gergen, any chance for someone else to rise? someone pointed out the other day it's not just been rick perry, herman cain, michele bachmann and now gingrich. earlier there was sarah palin and also donald trump. is there anybody else to come to the top? >> i don't think so because i think we've run out of alternatives. isn't this sort of the last one standing in terms of the alternatives? maybe i missed someone like san torm, maybe huntsman can catch
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fire in new hampshire. i think newt gingrich has acquitted hielf in these debates as well as anybody else. probably second only to mitt romney. very strong in the debates and very steady. he'll come under this additional scrutiny. there are a lot of reporters out there who are laying for him. think think he's going to face some tough stories. we'll see where it goes. >> thanks so much to all. still "outfront," the latest developments in the penn state child rape case. is the case against jerry sandusky as open and shut as we first thought? we looked into it and we have the bottom line answer for that. the tsa says the body scanners you go into don't cause cancer but they refuse to theft them. how safe are they? it's the weekly tradition on this show. that means the camel report is next. i habe a cohd.
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usual, artillery displays, music and camels. that's right. it turns out in the 1850s the department of war brought a bunch of camels from the middle east to the american southwest. now, the reason is, unlike horses, camels can go days without water. in the american desert that was hellal ful. they were perfect. what happened? why don't we have camels running around america. it turns out the cam pells were champions by jefferson davis. at the end of the civil war things with davis's name attached to them got shunned. the remaining camels wandered off whether they spent the next century stumbling into town scaring a few people, including a young douglas macarthur. it doesn't end there. the u.s. department of war brought a team of camel trainers, syrians, christians and muslims into the united states to work with those
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animals. after the camel experiment ended, a lot of those people stayed including a man named haji alif who inspired the popular song "hijolly" and a syrian who went on to become who founded the national rev lulgs their party which governed mexico for 70 years. to think it all started with camels in america. by the way, a bonus. in what country do more camels live than any other country in the world? hey, that would be australia where president obama is speaking in front of australian parliament tonight. hey, you learn something new every day. still "outfront," a woman severely injured during a stunt gone wrong forgives the boy responsible and saves him from a life in prison. she comes "outfront." the man allegedly fired shots at the white house is arrested in pennsylvania. we have the latest developments in fen state child rape case. could sandusky escape prosecution?
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reportireporting and find the t five. number onumber one t reportireporting and find the t five. number onumber one super cowe deadline. no deal is in sight. republicrrepublicaprepublican noem came out front and told us something significant. she said she's okay with some
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people paying higher taxes for the elimination of deductions and write offs. this echoes what pat toomey told out front last week. >> reporter: congresswoman noem is a tea party member. so that's significant. the tsa says a health risk study of scanners is no longer needed saying a new report will validate studies which say the machines aren't harmful. tsa add constituenter john pistol promised an investigation found that tsa glossed over research showing the machines can cause cancer. senator susan collins pushed for the stutd difficult and told out frontd, quote, such reports undermine public confidence that such technology is safe. we need an independent review of the technology to ensure it does not adverselily affect the health of passengers and tsa employees. number three, the price of oil
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is above $100 a barrel since july. we spoke with john kilda who says if the price sticks we can see gas prices at the pump above $4.00 by christmas. number four, we're paying less. consumer price index dropped for the first time since june following .1%. doesn't sound like a lot. you add it up, biggest drop came in gasoline which obviously is reversing. the cost of food had its smallest increase in nearly a year. analysts told "outfront" they expect it to go up in the next few months. it has been 103 days since america lost its top credit rating? what are we doing back in europe is not helping. fitch warned that america's banks' exposure to the problems in europe, the reason why the stock market fell sharp. today the u.s. bank shows the
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most exposure to europe is morgan stanley survey after survey says is still too big to fail. the man wanted for shooting at the white house has been arrested. oscar romero ortega hernandez had been on the secret service radar since friday night. officers located a car not far from the white house that led police to seek a warrant for his arrest. officials believe the 21-year-old idaho native may have fired two shots at the white house, one stopped by bulletproof glass, the other found in the white house ex-tear your. athena jones has been following it for us. what can you tell us? >> reporter: as you mentioned, the secret service had a national lookout for this suspect since friday night. he had been known to have been hanging around this particular area of indiana, pennsylvania. so the secret service went around there, passed out flyers with his picture on it to
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various hotels. today they got a tip from staffers at a hampton inn. they found him, arrested him in the lobby without incident. the police said he stayed at that particular hampton inn in the days leading up to friday's incident. the staffers recognized him and alerted authorities. we're also told by law enforcement officials that the fbi and secret service have questioned him and we expect to see him make an appearance in federal court tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. in pittsburgh. >> no idea as to a motive at this point? >> not yet. that's certainly what we'll be waiting to hear tomorrow. we haven't heard anything coming out of the questioning by these officials of this suspect. we also -- we do know he does have a criminal history, he has arrests in three states for arrests like drug and alcohol violations and for resisting arrests. >> athena, thank you very much. we'll follow that story.
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disturbing the bullets could get there. new develops in the penn state child rape case against former football coach jerry sandusky. let's lay them out. sandusky obviously accused of sexually abusing eight boys. he's out on bail. now the judge who set his release terms was replaced. it was determined she was a volunteer at his charity, the second mile. there are new developments surrounding assistant coach mike mcqueary. apparently he sent an e-mail to his friend saying i told law en ment authorities. penn state now disputes that. that's going to be crucial in the case. sara ganim is a cnn contributor, at penn state with more on the situation. let me ask you, sara ab the new judge being assigned. what is your understanding about what this will do to how quickly the case proceeds? >> reporter: i don't think it changes ow quickly it proceeds. over the last week there's been a lot of concern about whether or not a local judge in a town where there are a lot of people with ties to the second mile and
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to penn state could really proceed and hear this case on december 7th when it goes for a preliminary hearing. what the state offices in charge of allstate judges decided to do was bring in a judge with westmoreland county with no ties to penn state or jerry sandusky's charity. he'll hear the case on december 7th. >> december 7th. have there been anymore developments regarding alleged victims? we have the eight. reports there can be many more. any others come forward? are you hearing that they may? >> reporter: there's a tip line set up specifically and only for this case. we are hearing that there are tips going into that tip line. however, state police are not confirming how many reports, how many victims they're interviewing. actually they've denied that the reports that have been made about a specific number of new victims, they've denied those reports. they say they're false. >> sara, thank you very much, covering the story for the
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patriot news and contributing for us. the investigation into the sexual abuse by jerry sandusky continues to expand. earlier today the fresh air fund, a charity in new york confirmed the sandusky family was a host to at least six children going back to the 1970s. there have been no allegations made by any of these families. but the investigation continues. sandusky, as we said, eight boys formally right now have come forward. if he's found guilty he will likely spend the rest of his life in prison. proving someone guilty of child sex abuse is not as easy as it may seem. many alleged victims in this case go back as far as ten years or more, to help break it down is paul cowan, contributor for us and jeff herman who specializes in child sex abuse cases, judge won a $100 million judgment in miami in a priest sex abuse case. paul cowan, let me start with you. you have sandusky come forward,
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admit on national television to being in the shower with these young boys. but proving this criminally in court, why isn't it that easy? >> it's still hard. although i must say sandusky's ridiculous press conference where he admitted showering with the boys has made the prosecution's job a lot easier. the prosecution has to still prove a specific crime was committed at a specific place ten years ago. these involve children from this second mile program. they're children who had problems to begin with. they were in foster homes a lot of them. a lot of them were in group homes. that's why they went into the second mile program. now ten years later, a prosecutor is going to have to rely on the recollection and memory of that witness to testify, and it's hard because of the passage of time. >> the thing you're saying that would really make it easy, open and shut, is really not that easy. you would need mike mcqueary, the assistant coach, who allegedly saw the incident, come forward, and the boy who was there that night come forward.
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>> exactly. you'd like to see the victim and corroboration. the mcqueary case is starting to blow up a little bit, too, because mcqueary is saying i reported it to the police, i reported it to the administrators and they're saying no, he didn't. now you have an issue at trial. they're going to say mcqueary is a liar and the faculty or administration backs us up on that. you've got a problem with a corroborating witness already. >> jeff herman, how difficult might this be? you have been through this many times, going through it in priest situations where i can imagine corroboration was not frequent. >> right, right. the typical child sex abuse prosecution is inherently difficult because typically there's no no eyewitnesss or physical evidence. it tess classic he said, she said. in this case i think sandusky is not going to walk away. this is a he said, he said, he said, he said situation. there's a lot of victims out
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there which i think will come into this case. there's going to be an accumulation of evidence that's going to be a mountain that's going to be too big for sandusky's defense to climb over. also i think sandusky's press conference, if you want do call it that, created several problems for him. first of all, by issuing the denial he did, he's going to encourage other victims to come forward who might have stayed in silence. i think we'll see more victims. number two -- >> i was just going to ask you, you were contacteded by at least one of the victims in this case. i don't know whether you'll be working with him formally in this case. but are they one of the eight or are you hearing about more boys coming forward. >> what i'm talking about, when you have a predator who denies abusing children, the other victims who may be out there say, you know what? it's time for me to speak up. i think because of his denials we'll see other victims come forward. then, of course, we have him admitting he was taking showers with boys. that in and of itself makes the
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prosecution's job a lot easier here. also, i just think his entire scope of his statement fits the classic pedophile profile. the commonwealth i think will bring in a behavioral psychologist to show this is the kind of actions that a predator case. >> i think the most shocking thing when he asked if he was sexually asked to young boys, he had to repeat the question as if he didn't understand what it was. paul callan, you point out that even without a criminal conviction, these boys could receive compensation, punitive damages. jeff just did a kes with $100 million. >> jeff's case is a good example of how juries react in these cases. they award enormous amounts of money. first of all frnlgsz you get compensation for the injury you sustained through the sexual abuse, if there are psychiatric problems these kids had later in life, they get compensated for that. then, if there's a case against penn state, the specter of punitive damages. a jury can say we're going to
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punish the university to send a message that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated. they can award a huge settlement. >> well, $20 million, $30 million. >> you're looking at the specter of multi-million dollar verdicts in this case if other victims come forward, even just these eight victims. >> paul and jeff, i hope you come back as we try to make more sense of this and figure this story out. let's check in with anderson cooper with a look of what's coming up on anderson cooper 360. >> we'll speak with a mother of one of the first alleged sexual abuse victims to come forward. jerry sandusky, allegedly multiple counts of having sex with this child, oral sex in his home. his mom says he's a brave child but still afraid that the former penn state assistant coach might get away with it. we'll the pressure she and her
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family are facing now, and the pressure she faced to not come forward or tell the police chapped. we'll speak with john walsh and our panel. all politics, digging deeper on current presidential candidate newt gingrich's very lucrative consulting work for freddie mac, the same freddie mac he chastised former presidential candidate john mccain for taking money from. those stories and tonight's ridiculous at the top of the hour. >> anderson, thank you so much. bizarre details about the mother of a baby missing in washington state and the website she may have signed up for just before her child disappeared. a woman severely injured in a teenage stunt gone wrong. her life almost ended. but this is a story of recovery. we'll be back. i trade on tradearchitect. this is web-based trading, re-visualized. streaming, real-time quotes. earnings analysis. probability analysis: that's what opportunity looks like.
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we do this at the same time every night. our outer circle. we reach out to our sources around the world. we begin in syria where a group calling themselves the free syrian army attacked an important government complex near the capital. ivan watson is in istanbul, turkey. what is the message of the free syrian army? >> reporter: erin, we talked to a member of this so-called free syrian army, a lieutenant who deserted and is in exile in istanbul. he says his colleagues attacked what he described as a branch of
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internal security in damascus that he said was guilty of crimes against the syrian people. the message that these branches will be targeted in the future, a stark warnings to the syrian government and to the international community that syria seems headed towards an armed civil war between rival factions in that country. erin? >> thank you very much, ivan. now to afghanistan where president karzai began the tribal elder meeting. he had a speech that set limits on american troops. nick paton walsh is covering it. nick, what were the terms? >> the limitation that he put on american presence here are the complains about the nato presence we've heard before from afghan officials. he wants an end tonight raids by u.s. special forces and ends to searching of afghan homes and says americans here won't have the power of arrest over afghans. karzai is trying to sound like a nationalistic leader who will defend afghan interests while at
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the end of the day accepting that he wants the u.s. and afghanistan to have a long-term military alliance. bizarre details emerging about the mother of a missing 2-year-old boy from washington state. web site where sugar babies go to meet sugar daddies. the ceo of that site is joining us from las vegas. no wrong doing vis-a-vis the web site has been alleged here. i'm just curious, could you
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explain what a sugar baby is, why a woman might be on it? >> yeah. the sugar baby is defined as a younger woman who usually wants to meet a wealthy man too take care of them. in this case, sugar dadddaddies. i suppose julia joined this web site to find a wealthier guy to take care of her. >> is it typical for single mothers to be using your site? >> yeah, it is. actually, the single mothers happen to be the second largest demographic of users so close to about 10%s of our users are in fact single mothers. >> what can you tell us about the activity on the account that uses julia bare cove va's name, was she dating, was she on the site? was she involved with anybody? >> all we can say is that the account was created in july of this year, late july, and she logged in as late as yesterday night around 11:00 p.m. >> she logged in as late as yesterday night. you can't tell anything else,
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though, in terms of how much money she was asking for, as some women do? >> her profile basically states she saes expecting a guy who can afford a budge oat of $3,000 to $5,000 a month. that's pretty typical, some girls ask krup wards of $8,000 to $10,000 a month. i'd say she's normal. a woman severely injured in a stunt gone wrong recovers and saves the boy responsible from a life in prison.
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it was a night like tonight in new york, cold, dark and wet. november 2004 victoria ra volo was driving home. something happened, a 20-pound frozen turkey thrown by a teen from a passing car came smashing through her window as she was driving. she almost died, was in a coma. then she did something that no one expected. her book "no room for vengeance" is just out, and really a stunning read. she joins us now. thank you so much for coming out. >> oh, thank you for having me here. >> so tell me, first, just what happened that night. i know you don't have any memory still, right, of the exact moment? >> oh, no i don't have no memory whatsoever. like you say, i was going to see my niece sing and then i was going home because the rain became a rainy, wet snow and i
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wanted to leave and get home because i don't like to drive if in the know. that's all i remember. i didn't wake up for a month, and i was already in the rehab hospital. i don't even remember the wonderful hospital that took care of me. >> your recovery was miraculous. people thought it would take an incredible at of time. >> yes. >> you were in great physical shape. there were physical reasons for it. but then there was one really significant mental reason. tell me why you decided to not hate the person who did it to you. >> well he, you know, it's funny because dr. robert goldman who wrote the book and we're in there together, he actually never believe me when i said, when they told me about the incident when i was in the rehab hospital, that i actually said, do those kids realize how much they ruined their lives as much as they ruined mine? he never believed that i ever said that until he went to interview everyone and was amazed that i actually said that.
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so, you know, i just truly believe that, you know, to me it just seemed like such a stupid, ridiculous act. what -- you know, and finding out that they were kids just knowing that it wasn't meant for me and it was just a stupid, ridiculous act. >> these were kids who had stolen a credit card from a family who was at the movies, they went to the grocery store, bought a turkey, they got scared. one of them threw it out the window. that kid is ryan. he was going to go to jail. here's what he said about you. >> i told her i'm so happy she's doing well and i'm so sorry. i just wanter to go on with her life and i love the woman. she's a wonderful person. >> you and he now do something sort of together, a program to help kids like ryan. >> well, we did that, you know. ryan's community service was to speak to other kids about his stupid, ridiculous act and
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actually try to help them not to do that. and that was a program created by dr. robert goldman called the taste program, thinking anger manage the social skills and talking empathy. ryan would speak at the first class and i would speak at the last class, which i still do. ryan had to do that for community service for one year, but then he continued and volunteered for an additional three years. >> but he could have gone to jail for maybe the rest of his life, for 20-plus years. >> yes. >> and he didn't because you went to the judge and said, don't do it. >> actually, i spoke with the d.a., which they all thought i was nutds and looked at my, what are you crazy? you're too easy. but they listened to me. i just couldn't see how taking a child who did a stupid, ridiculous act and putting him

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