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some of them soldiers, some of them children. more about the frightening standoff. we'll be live in toulouse, france, in just a moment. and he says we're drilling all over the place. those words from president obama today. it is his latest stop on his energy tour. the president officially announcing plans to fast track the southern part of the keystone pipeline project. now, republicans, they are slamming the president over high gas prices, but he is defending his energy policies. >> since i took office, our dependence on foreign oil has gone down every single year. last year we imported 1 million fewer barrels per day than the year before. think about that. america at a time when we're growing is actually importing less oil from overseas because we're using it smarter and more efficiently. >> republicans want the president to approve the entire keystone pipeline which would stretch from canada to the gulf
coast. so it's a gaffe, it's not going away, at least not yet. mitt romney's campaign doing some damage control over a remark by a top campaign adviser. this happened in a cnn interview. he compared the general election to an etch-a-sketch. >> i think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. everything changes. it's almost like an etch-a-sketch. you can kind of shake it up and we start all over again. >> romney says they were talking about starting over from an organizational standpoint. that his message would remain the same. didn't take long however for his rivals and democrats to jump all over this. >> you win by giving people a choice. you win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who is just going to be a little different than the person in there. if they're going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk of what may be the etch-a-sketch candidate for the future. it's official. tim tebow is trading the mile high stadium for the bright
lights of the big apple. he has been traded to the new york jets after his old team, the denver broncos, added superstar peyton manning to its rost roster. tebow is known for his strong faith. headline for "the daily news" reads gangrene gets tebow, amen. the new york post sums it up, tebow, a new york jet, god him. supporters of trayvon martin want the man who shot and killed him to go to jail. george zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense when he gunned down the unarmed teen last night. last night the town commission passed a no confidence vote against the police chief. cnn's george howell is live in sanford, and, george, set the scene for us, if you will. what are folks hoping to accomplish there? >> reporter: well, at this point we know that hundreds, if not thousands, of people will be arriving here to sanford, and
really there's one rallying -- several rallies messages, one main rallying message. they want to see george zimmerman behind bars. the other message is they want to see this police department investigated. they want this particular case investigated by federal investigators but a lot of people and a lot of eyes on this city and this case after the shooting death just in february. >> and, george, what do we expect that's going to happen this evening? >> at this point we know that the rally, and it's supposed to happen a few blocks away from where i am, that rally actually moved from a small church to a larger park where a lot of people will get together. the rally starts around 7:00 and we're expecting some high profile names here along with the reverend al sharpton who, as you mentioned, will be speaking at this rally. >> and can you give us a sense of this no confidence vote? what does that mean for the investigation? >> whether it really affects the investigation, probably not, but it could have an indirect
effect. obviously the investigation will be looked at by investigators and the grand jury will decide whether george zimmerman is charged in this case, but the city manager is paying close attention to this. again, after that no confidence vote, that's in his mind. he's the person who could fire this police chief, and, again, he says he's waiting for federal investigators to look through the case before he makes any decision, and that could take some time, at least past april 10th. they are actually on buses. they're heading to florida to protest the killing of trayvon martin. one group of demonstrators left from an atlanta church this morning headed to the rally tonight in sanford, florida. >> his mother wanted him to understand the importance of being educated, being responsible, to understand what life holds for him if he doesn't carry himself the right way. >> i feel like trayvon martin is
a piece of everyone on this bus, you know what i'm saying? just because he was killed in that rude way, he's not arrested, it means no justice is being brought. so that's what we're going to go do. >> what are they hope something going to come out of this and what motivates someone to get on a bus, ride for hours, take a stand for a young man they don't even know? and derri derrick. they're on the bus on the way to florida. you took two days off to get on the bus. why are you doing this? what motivated you? >> are you talking to me? >> yes. >> this is deandre. in a real sense the past few days listening to the 911 recording and hearing that young man's plea and cry out for help, i literally heard my own son calling out for help, and as you
mentioned, i have a 17-year-old son who bears my name, and i felt as a father i had to respond to that fall even though trayvon martin is no longer with us. his spirit through my son seems to be calling me to come in this direction. >> is your son, is he with you today? have you talked about this situation, this killing of this young 17-year-old? >> we did talk about it. i have to be honest with you, over the past few days i buzzed him every day, every night more so than i normally would, and so we've talked about it, and he knows that i'm making this trip -- he's in school today. he's a junior at west lake high school there in metro atlanta, but he couldn't make it, but we have talked at length about this and the ramifications of what it
means. >> do you have concern, do you have worries for your own 17-year-old son, that this is something that he could have faced himself, that he is in a position where he's vulnerable sometimes when he's walking in certain communities? >> the story is that this young man was on a trip to get some skittles for his younger brother, and i also have three daughters. my son is the oldest, but he cherishes his three sisters, and so i could -- to get them some skittles and, of course, it makes me fearful. in atlanta we recently had another young man pass from a tragedy in union city, and so it hits close to home. >> and do you ever advise your son about certain things he should or shouldn't do when he is faced -- when he's in certain communities? >> i've never actually had that talk with my son about what he
should and shouldn't do. he's a good kid, but in a free society i don't think that should have to coach him on how he should behave when he's doing what he's well within his rights to do -- >> okay. >> in the last few days, again, i talked to my son about this incident and coached him in terms of how he should respond whether it's a police officer or anybody else. but prior to this, i'll be honest with you, i had not because there should be no need for me to coach him. >> deandra, thank you for joining us. i'm sorry, the connection is a little fuzzy but we know you're on the bus, we know you're traveling to the rally in florida, that it is going to be a little bit of a ride there for you. i want to bring in derek bozeman, a former atlanta city
councilman, also on the bus. can you hear me? >> i can. yes, i can. >> tell us why the church mobilized for this march. how did you guys get this thing started? >> well, i think i also -- what we heard from callers and listeners, that they wanted to be here. they wanted to be, as we say, at the proverbial scene of the crime. they wanted to let this family know that trayvon martin's life meant something to them, and so we decided to come from atlanta to florida to stand in unity and solidarity. we also came to say to the sanford city council and those leaders in the police department who made a decision that mr. zimmerman should not be arrested that nowhere in america do we believe that this should go forward without at least an arrest. we know this case was blown from
the start. they another questioned him seriously. they never collected evidence. they never -- so in the face of all of these analoomalies that e would say, we believe that an opportunity for substantial justice was missed, and so we are saying we have got to go back and do the right thing and what we believe the right thing is that mr. zimmerman should be arrested. >> what -- can you give us the mood of what it's like on the bus there? does it have the feel of a movement that's taking place? >> well, people are going through a range of emotions. on the bus i am traveling on, you have a mother with a 16-year-old. you have another mother with a son a little bit older. you have activists from the -- and you have students from our high school and the local colleges. nothing can bring this cross section -- you got people who
ordinarily are not sitting in the same places who have decided this means something individually and collectively to them. so that's a very high spirited move, very optimistic, but we also understand that we know what justice feels like and what it looks like and then trayvon martin's case, we have not seen that yet. so we're going down to just that witness to stand in his face to say to this government, local and federal, that this deserves -- we don't want any more justice for trayvon but we don't want any less justice for him either. >> derek bozeman, deandre mat s mathis, thank you for speaking with us. we will be following your journey to florida. there's no word on where george zimmerman is now but a friend and fellow neighborhood watch captain is defending him. frank taafe told me yesterday that zimmerman is a good person. >> george zimmerman is a good
dude. he's straight up. that's why i'm front running for him today, and have been since this incident broke. >> you say he's a good dude and yet we've got reports from eyewitnesses and people who explain a situation that looks like he is hunting down this young kid and that he is killed in cold blood, not in self-defense. how do you explain what we've heard so far? >> suzanne, in our neighborhood we've experienced eight burglaries, one of them being a daytime burglary. i myself credit george for thwarting a burglary to my own house. i don't condone the use of the gun. being a former block captain, we were never instructed to use weapons as lethal as a 9 millimeter. maximum i would ever use maybe is a pepper spray or a taser, something nonlethal, but i am going to go on camera and say george is not a racist. >> zimmerman's family is also
denying allegations that race played a role in the shooting. they say zimmerman has several minority relatives and friends. also understand we are getting some pictures now. this is a miami high school. this is from our affiliates here, pictures of kids who are walking out of carol city senior high school over the trayvon martin shooting. that is according to reporting from our affiliates. we're looking at live pictures there of them leaving the school and we are told at least from our reporters on the ground there from the affiliates that this is in solidarity with trayvon martin, the young man who was shot and killed who we have been talking about earlier today. here is a rundown of some of the stories we're covering over the next hour. first, is it self-defense or a license to kill? we're going to take a look at what some are calling florida's shoot first, ask questions later law. then a new drug could be critical in fighting high cholesterol. and later the titanic on the
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unscathed, his wife breathed a sigh of relief. >> i would worry about him, but i thought he'd be safe here. >> reporter: she was wrong. and now wants to know why trevor dually, a 71-year-old retired bus driver, shot her husband in broad daylight right in front of their 8-year-old daughter. dually says it was self-defense. james' wife calls it murder. >> what person brings a gun to a park? when there's children. i mean, he killed my husband. he could have just talked to him. >> reporter: whether or not trevor dually fired in self-defense is at the heart of this case. also central to the story is dually's defense, florida's stand your ground law, which allows a person to stand their ground and use deadly force if they fear someone could
seriously harm them. here is what witnesses say happened on that september sunday in 2010. 41-year-old david james was playing basketball with his daughter here when witnesses say dually, who lived right across the street, started yelling at a teenager who was skateboarding to get off the court. that's when witnesses say james intervened. james yelled back to dually asking him to show where any sign said no skateboarding. dually then crossed the street to the park to confront james. a tennis player at the park, michael wit, testified things turned ugly when dually reached for his waistband. wit says james then lunged at dually. the two men struggled on the ground before james was shot once through the heart. on the 911 call, wit is heard trying to help. >> sir, can you hear me? >> sir, can you hear me? sir, can you hear me? he's shot in the chest, ma'am. >> and he's not breathing? >> he's not breathing.
>> mr. dually, what do you want to say about what happened? >> no comment. >> reporter: dually tells a different story that contradicts the witnesses. he says when he took the gun out of his right front pocket, james saw it and knocked him to the ground. at a hearing to get the charges dismissed, dually testified, quote, he was choking me to death. >> you agree you do not want to go to prison for killing david james, correct? >> i don't think so i should. >> yes or no. >> no. >> reporter: dually's lawyer told us his client turned to walk away towards home and that james was the aggressor. he said dually did pull a gun, but didn't use it until he felt his life was threatened. he says the charges against his client should be dropped given the stand your ground law. >> mrs. james says her husband of 13 years had never been aggressive, that he was a gentle family man. she believes he was trying to protect himself and their daughter, danielle, after he saw dually pull a gun. >> he loved danielle so much.
that breaks my heart that trevor dually took my daughter's best friend away from her. she'll never have her daddy. >> reporter: danielle's testimony about how and why the situation turned violent is key in a case that hinges on self-defense. danielle, now 10, recalled how her father asked dually where the signs were that said no skateboarding on the court. >> my dad got on top of him so he could keep him down so he could get the answer. >> where were your dad's hands? >> on his arms. >> on the man's arms? >> yeah. >> reporter: the little girl then recalled her father's last moments. >> i think the guy pulled out the gun then. >> did you hear anything? >> yeah. >> what did you hear? >> like when it shot. >> you heard a gunshot? >> yeah. >> did your dad say anything
then? >> yeah. >> what did he say? >> call the ambulance, i have been shot. >> when mrs. james got there, her husband was already dead, and her daughter was crying asking, why isn't anyone helping my daddy? randi kaye, cnn, florida. some are calling it florida's shoot first and ask questions later law. would trayvon martin still be alive without it? are you guys okay? yeah. ♪ [ man ] i had a great time. thank you, it was really fun. ♪ [ crash ] i'm going to write down my number, but don't use it. [ laughing ] ♪ [ engine turns over ] [ male announcer ] the all-new subaru impreza®. experience love that lasts. ♪
want to drill down on the stand your ground law. the legal implications in florida and other states that have similar laws. beth, let's talk about this a little bit. the stand your ground law allows somebody to use deadly force when threatened. you don't have to retreat. do you think this law is leading to kind of a macho mentality of folks, i'm not going to run, i'm not going to retreat, instead i'm going to shoot first? >> well, that is certainly what opponents of the law say in florida and elsewhere. you see, what it does is take the self-defense law because you can always meet force with force, and if you are met with deadly force, you can always
defend yourself with deadly force, especially if you're in your home because you no -- you don't have a duty to go to safety and try to avoid it before using deadly force, and until this law was enacted, you did have to do that when you were outside your home. now you don't. and so i do think that opponents of the law have some really strong arguments that people are a little bit too trigger happy now in cases of justifiable homicide having increased in florida since the law. >> can you explain there's also a thing called a castle doctrine bill which essentially says if you're attacked in your home you can use reasonable force, deadly force to protect your life without any duty to retreat. is it the same thing that we're talking about here? >> yes. what has happened now under stand your ground is they have taken this castle doctrine, your home is your castle, you can use deadly force, you don't have to
go to safety, you don't have to run out the book door, you can protect your home and yourself, it's now outside your home. anywhere you have a right to be you can stand your ground. wherever you are is your castle. but you have to be faced with deadly force. you can't get a punch in the nose and shoot one. you have to be reasonable in your perception that you are faced with deadly force. that's the issue in this case. what's the evidence that zimmerman was faced with deadly force? this child was unarmed. now, there has to be something he was doing that reasonably made zimmerman fear for his life. >> okay. let's talk about that because you bring up this point here. i suppose you could make the case, like let's say you feel threatened in some way, that you could punch their nose, but now you have laws on the books that are much more expansive when it comes to possessing firearms. make it is easier for you to have a gun in say the glove compartment or your purse or in your house. if you take those laws and this
castle law and you put these laws together, is this kind of creating a deadly combination here because people now can, if they feel threatened, shoot and kill. >> it can be and has been a deadly combination. when you can carry a firearm like you can in florida with a concealed weapons permit, civilians can carry them, you can't do that in new york city for example where i live easily, but you can do it much more easily in florida and elsewhere, and you're on, say, a patrol like zimmerman and he's looking to ferret out crime and prevent crime, it can absolutely be a deadly combination. police officers have so many things going through their heads when they're faced with a life or death situation, whether or not they can shoot, because they are trained and they understand. here you have a civilian who is putting himself in that position and is not trained like a police officer, and what's happening opponents of the law say is these folks, these civilians, are getting a little too trigger
happy. and zimmerman's big problem here now is going to be convincing the grand jury assuming he or somebody explains his position that he was reasonable in his perception of a threat of deadly force against him. not just a punch in the nose, but deadly force. >> all right. beth karas, thank you so much. we appreciate your perspective. artifacts from the most famous shipwreck of all time, they're actually going on the auction block. a look at what is for sale from the titanic. ♪ an old man shared some fish stories... ♪ oooh, my turn. ♪ she was in paris, but we talked for hours... everyone else buzzed about the band. there's a wireless mind inside all of us. so, where to next? ♪
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5,500 objects that have been brought up over the last quarter century from the debris field surrounding the wreck site to be offered at one time in accordance with the wishes of a court that for historic preservation wants to keep the collection together. >> please show us what you have. >> we're looking at a diverse group starting with a baker's hat from the third baker on the ship. gentleman's gloves. we can't determine if they were worn by someone in service or a gentleman out for the evening. china from the first, second, and third classes. this one featuring the white star line's logo, which was, of course, the owner of the ship. silverware, remarkably even paper has survived do to the careful conservation efforts of those who for a quarter century have helped protect this material. this is called a gymble light fixture which swayed while the
ship would sway so the light was always vertical. this is part of the more than 5,000 items that are being sold as a single collection. >> why altogether? the one person who bids the highest is going to get all of this? >> that's true. the courts decided that because the ship itself is rapidly deteriorating at the bottom of the sea, this collection really embodies the titanic and the memory of it, and for future generations if there was no intact collection, then it would be gone. so this material along with a substantial body of intellectual property is being sold as one lot. the sale is actually taking place, bids have to be in by april 2nd so people need could contact gurnseys now. >> how is it possible even that these items survived that, you were able to salvage them from the deep sea? >> the stories are remarkable. when you find a gentleman's vest and say how in the world could that have survived for a century
on the bottom of the water but there are scientific reasons for all of this, not enough time to go into this, but they have -- once they surfaced, careful conservation efforts were undertaken that often took years to protect these items so they can be looked at today as you would any other antique, about you they are extreme lly fragil and although these things may not look all that special, they come from one of the most extraordinary tragedies and situations that the earth has ever seen. >> and i got to ask you before we let you go, do you have any idea how much this is going to go for? >> you know, it's always tough when preparing for an auction. this collection was appraised at $189 million about five years ago, and we'll see bhaps at the auction, but folks need to contact gurnsey's now. >> if you're interested you know where to go. >> arlen, thank you so much. good to see you. coming up, cnn is getting a unique perspective at the violence that's going on in syria from space.
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rebel fighters in syria target an army tank. watch this. this is in the city of hama. the explosive goes off as a syrian tank passes by. we hear voices cheering afterwards. an opposition group says syrian forces are again heavily shelling hama. we depend on these amateur videos to tell the story of syria's deadly conflict. now we have help from some new satellite images. >> from the beginning one of the issues has been the lack of reporters on the ground. this is showing us for the first time really what's happening here. you can see the massing of artillery out here near one of the cities in question. here you can also see what's going on where you see an empty street and armored vehicles
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keep their hoop dreams aliveali. among them the marquette golden eagles. >> i want to thank my coaches for sticking with me. >> reporter: it is senior day for marquette university's varsity team. this is adrian ridgeway. for the past nine years she's coached the men's basketball team off the court. as marquette's assistant athletic director. the graduation rate for men's basketball has been so bad the ncaa recently created a new rule. teams need to get their graduation rates up to about 50% to qualify for post-season play. but at adrienne ridgeway's
school, graduation is the rule rather than the exception. what's their secret? >> i wave a magic wand. i'm kidding. >> reporter: last year this perennial basketball powerhouse spent $10.3 million on basketball alone. that money buys nice facilities and practice equipment, but it also provides players with education assistance that starts before the beginning of the regular school year. >> from that point then we know how to approach the school year. >> reporter: from there they watch the players' every move. >> it's like having more coaches that don't yell, without whistles basically. >> reporter: red shirt sophomore jamil wilson has never had so much attention paid to his actual classes. >> they monitor everything you do on the computers, like your homework, your papers, things like that. you're never really behind even if you are missing class. >> reporter: the basketball money also pays for chartered planes. they take players back to class and tutors who fly with the team to the games. >> you get to travel everywhere
and see everything and see everything and then again you still have to make up the work that you miss and don't just get a free pass just because you're gone or play basketball. >> marquette's basketball budget makes it one of the five most expensive programs in the tournament. president pular says it is worth it. >> we'll provide a transformational education that will help them succeed in life. >> jamil plans to graduate next year, go to grad school and live a lifetime of achievement. >> i would like to play until my body says this isn't for you anymore. never know. >> all right. bust out your brackets. down to the sweet 16, college basketball beginning tonight and there is a reason i have these two up here. talking trash talk now. >> it feels good to win, ladies and gentlemen. it feels good to win. >> for now, for now.
we'll give you more time, a little bit more time. >> there are 15 games left. >> i am kicking you. am i not kicking your butt? >> you're beating me by a point. >> by a point? >> that's serious. >> the thing is if michigan state goes all the way, obviously she wins. >> my dad's alma mater. >> if unc wins you are. >> i am nervous about the point guard. >> here is suzanne's. your whole deal is kentucky against michigan state. >> right. >> ohio state, unc, and yyu and unc win it is all. that's how you win the tournament. >> love williams and the boys. >> if kira wins, kentucky has to beat syracuse. for me to win nebraska has to get in the tournament. >> how do i win? i have to get michigan state up there. >> good luck with that. >> you get smarty to beat the
kansas jay hawks and you are taking all the money which is zero because we didn't put money in. it is just for fun. >> it is not too late to make a wager right here, brook. >> no. i am working on that behind the scenes. my team plays angie, my executive producer's team friday night at 7:00. i will be on the plane with the annoying girl on wi-fi screaming for the tar heels but we're working out a healthy wager. >> this is just healthy fun. >> i love it. >> i will get a book show when i am beating her butt. >> done. >> sold. it is a deal. >> for one month out of the year everybody votes. it is good stuff. >> totally cool. love it. ncaa sweet 16 getting under way today. watch every game live and if you're away from the tv, don't worry. catch the action online, ncaa.com/marchmadness. today, we stand against the tyranny of meager travel cards.
hearing a lot about post-traumatic stress disorder particularly with so many soldiers coming back from war. while the easier to identify the physical wounds, it is those beneath the surface that sometimes get missed. miguel talked to one vet that had a horrible experience after he came home from vietnam.
>> reporter: gather has been to hell and back. >> you had about as intense an experience a young man, a teenager, can have. >> true. >> you had to kill a man with your bare hands. >> at one point, yes. >> he was 17 years old when he joined the marines, a kid, three tours and more than three years later he came home battered, bruised, and determined to leave the past behind. he finished college, started his own contracting business, and vietnam wasn't done with him. >> how much did you drink? >> i go through a fifth of whiskey a day. >> why did you drink so much? >> so i could pass out at night and not have nightmares. >> eight years after halsey returned from vietnam just three weeks after getting married, he was drinking heavily on the night of october 24th, 1978, and he did the unthinkable. >> i passed out around and last
time i remember, about 10:00, and i woke up and she was in bed next to me and the knife i kept under my pillow, was a knife never jams, never runs out of ammo, and i kept combat knife under my pillow and it was stuck in her chest and i called the authorities. >> what did you tell them? >> i said i just think i just killed my wife. i don't know. >> he pleaded insanity and served nine years for second degree murder. halsey's experience is extreme but familiar. more than a mississippi veterans have returned from iraq and afghanistan and nearly 20% may suffer post-traumatic stress disorder, as much as 25% depression and one study indicated 27% of returning iraq vets have used alcohol and other showed prescription and illegal drug addiction as high as 35% among some soldiers. when gary killed his wife in 1978, ptsd wasn't an official clinical diagnosis. in fact, he didn't even seek
treatment for ptsd until 1994. one of the most difficult problems, diagnosing ptsd. the vets themselves have to recognize the symptoms and be willing to ask for help. one way the military is trying to reach vets, video games that present real life dilemmas where they can identify problems based on their score. >> another way is with programs developed for your mobile phone, the t-2 center at forth lewis developed a mood tracker that service members can punch in a range of emotions and feelings in realtime and everything from depression to feelings of tiredness or hopelessness and over time the data helps to i understand too the possibility of stress related problems. >> tools that didn't exist in gary hals i's day. >> war is hell. hell is defined as being separated from god. god doesn't walk around a war zone. >> despite it he has turned his life around. in 2007 he became an elected
official, a city councilman in pacific washington. when the local press heard. >> a killer on the city council. >> halsey was forced to couldn't front his past again as his murder conviction was widely known and married 25 years now he credits his wife lois for helping him understand something he never thought he would. >> i knew fear. i knew anger. i didn't know how to deal with love or joy or happiness. i knew guilt. guilt and fear would turn into anger. that was familiar. now i know joy and i know love. >> halsey says when his secret went public the response was something he didn't expect. hundreds of letters from his constituents urging him to stay at the city council. miguel marquez, pa sichx washington. >> cnn newsroom continues with
brooke baldwin. >> thank you. hello to all of you. top of the hour, want to get you caught up on everything making news right now. rapid fire. roll it. >> first up breaking news from florida. here is what we know from our affiliate wkmg reporting the city manager of sanford will be holding a news conference in just about an hour and a half from now, 3:30 eastern time. we'll bring that to you live. we don't know what he plans to say. we'll watch for that in about an hour and a half from now. also today about 1,700 students walked out of class in miami today to protest the death of trayvon martin, the teen shot and killed about a month ago by the neighborhood watch captain. the 17-year-old lived in miami, went to school there and in sanford the city council approved as of last night the vote of no confidence in its own police chief whose investigators have yet to watch watch captain george zimmerman that shot martin in an the indication last
month. the justice department is to meet with rt ma in's parents this afternoon. also some new signs that the job market is getting a little bit better. fewer americans are now joining the ranks of the newly unkbmd, so the number today according to the labor department is 348,000. that's the number of people who filed initial unemployment benefits last week. that is down about 5,000 from the week before. it is also the lowest number in four years and closer it normal job turnover in a healthier economy. just a short time ago president obama officially announced his plans to fast track the keystone excel pipeline project. republic appears want him to approve the entire product that would stretch from canada to the gulf coast and they blasted the president over the high gas prices we have been seeing lately and the president stands by his energy policy. take a listen. >> since i took office our dependence on foreign oil has gone down every single year.
last year we imported 1 million fewer barrels per day than the year before. think about that. america at a time when we're growing is actually importing less oil from overseas because we're using it smarter and more efficient. >> that's what the president is saying today. coming up in a half hour we'll be joined by the president's critic that wrote an open letter to the president and we'll talk about the impact of the announcement and why he wants the whole pipeline now. the french gunman who killed seven people including school children and soldiers during a shooting rampage is now dead. a violent 32-hour standoff with french police ended when 23-year-old muhammed meira was shot in the head after birsing out a window in his apartment and shooting at officers in the time. inside they found videos of the shootings and officials are now speaking out about what it was they saw on the types. more on that in a couple of
minutes for you from france. also, the fbi is watching suspected hezballah agents with ties to iran right here in the united states. a panel told the house homeland security committee they're here and they are raising money for their cause. more disturbing facts coming out of this hearing, authorities say more than 70 used car dealerships in the united states were part of the hezballah money laundering scheme and more mysterious booms in the night reported in a town in wisconsin. it is all happening in clintonville. at least the number of calls is down a little bit from what they saw earlier in the week. still, no word as to what in the world is causing the racket. everyone seems to have a theory. >> i think it is man made. >> sink holes. >> ground shifting. >> don't know if it is man made or something geological. >> new equipment is arriving today for sensors that will be placed aren't town this afternoon to determine the source of the booms.
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police chief overseeing the entire trayvon martin death investigation. >> all those in favor of the vote of no confidence signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> opposed. >> no. >> 3-2. >> a neighborhood watch volunteer shot the 17-year-old martin on february 26th claiming it was in self-defense. the vote that you just heard agreed to last night is in line with the naacp's demand the chief should resign. they say his investigators should have arrested the shooter, 28-year-old george zimmerman seen here in this photo cnn obtained exclusively and while last night's city council vote says a lot, it is not owe first quarter because the person who ultimately makes the call on whether police chief bill lee stays or goes is the city manager. right now he has chosen to delay judgment. >> i would like an independent
review by a law enforcement agency that will tell me that the city of sanford police did something they shouldn't have donor not do something they should have done. based upon that information i will make a determination as to the future of chief lee. >> chief lee sent commenting. the family of trayvon martin plans to hold a news conference later today as well. we have two news conferences we're looking for. george is live on the ground in sanford. george, i just want to begin with the news we got that norton will be speaking an hour and a half from now. do you know anything about that, why he called this press conference? >> brook, yeah, we just checked that out. a lot of things happening quickly. that press conference will be a daily update to talk about what's happening right now in the city, certainly expecting hundreds if not thousands here in sanford, so that is expected to start around 3:30. we'll of course bring that to you live. we also know the family today is meeting with members of the department of justice. they meet at 3:00 and we are supposed to have a news
conference with them right around 4:30, so we should be able to bring you some reaction to that meeting. a lot of things happening quickly here. a lot of focus on this city after the shooting and a lot of people are rallying together to see george zimmerman put behind bars, brook. >> so hang on. let me bring you back to the point about the city manager holding the daily briefings. he has been holding daily briefings? that was news to myself and my producers in my ear. >> this is rather new. this would be the first daily briefing. >> the first daily briefing. >> if in fact that is what it is, the first daily briefing we're getting. we're starting to see the city manager more and more. yesterday i talked it him. he says he wants to get the word out he welcomes a federal investigation. in fact, brook, we learned that members of the department of justice, they are here right now in the police department starting to look over this case, so a lot of things happening very quickly today. >> okay. as we await the two news
conferences happening at 3:30 and presumably 4, 4:30, let me ask you about george zimmerman again. i feel i have to ask again. has anyone heard from him? also, and assuming the answer is no, i imagine the police, george, know where he is and if and when they need to contact him and if and when they decide to charge him, correct? >> the city manager told me that exactly, that the police department knows exactly where he is. we checked around. we checked a relative's homes and friend's homes and no one knows where he is at this point. he is essentially in hiding. the city manager says if the police department needs to get in touch with him, they can do so. >> we are also learning because of these public documents a little bit more about his background, george zimmerman's background. tell me about his parents' professions. >> this is very interesting. we learned his father was a magistrate judge for the virginia supreme court and that his mother was a deputy clerk for more than 20 years, so this may give some indication as to why he had such an interest or
has such an interest in law enforcement. in fact, i want to read this statement that he wrote in his application for outreach program to teach citizens about law enforcement. take a listen to this. george zimmerman wrote i hold law enforcement officers in the highest regard and i hope to one day become one. clearly, it shows why he has so much interest in law enforcement and being a watch captain in this neighborhood, brook. >> okay. george, thank you. george zimmerman's father insists his son is not a racist, telling the orlando sentinel that some of the family members are black and according to abc news the police department admitted investigators missed a possible racest remark in the 911 call that george zimmerman made minutes before shooting trayvon martin and when cnn asked sanford police about this exact report, sergeant david morgan stern says he wasn't sure what zimmerman said, still
something can be heard in the audio. we today are going to let you har the controversial moment and it is very, very brief, we're talking less than two seconds here and first just a warning to all of you, you are about to hear racially insensitive language and cursing and we didn't want to cover any of the audio just to give you clear version as possible. more now from cnn's gary tuchman. >> this is edit room 31 at cnn center in atlanta. this is one of the most sophisticated audit edit suites in the business. right here is rick sierra, our audio design specialist, one of the best audio experts in the business. rick, if you can, i have want listened to this portion of the 911 tape at all. i want to hear it raw right now if you can play ten seconds before and let's listen. >> okay. >> which entrance is that. >> the back entrance. >> you mapt have heard the
moment in question because it was so quick. >> how long does that portion last that everyone is talking about? >> a second, 18 frames. >> about 1.6 seconds. >> correct. >> so let's listen like ten times in a row if we can. >> okay. >> what we're listening for is the racial slur coons that follows the f word. some people say they hear it and others say they don't. >> it is certainly a lot clearer when we listen to it this way. >> correct. >> anything else we can do with the audio to make it clearer? >> i already did a little bit of boosting the 2.2 killhertz and 4.6. >> sounds like you can power the flex capacitor. >> that's right. >> what rick has done is lower the base. >> why is it you want to get rid of the low end of the audio, the base of the audio. >> to minimize the noise. >> it takes away the noise and allows us to hear the voice more clearly.
>> that's correct. i will boost it up more there. we'll give it a shot here. >> it does sound a little clearer, like the allegation could be accurate but i wouldn't swear to it in court. >> that's what it sounds like to me. >> very difficult to pinpoint what he was saying. >> can we play the second word, what we think the second word is and hear if it sounds different? >> coons. >> certainly kounds like that word to me although you can't be sure. >> that sounds more like the word than using it with the word before that. >> that's correct. >> only george zimmerman knows if he used the slur. he is want talking. the phone call like so much of this case remains a mystery. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> thank you. coming up we'll talk to the head
of the naacp in the county where trayvon martin died and also this. >> florida's self-defense law suddenly in the spotlight. >> what person brings a gun to a park? >> an elderly man kills an iraq war veteran in front of the soldier's daughter and now the shooter is free. bullets fly in a marathon standoff with a guy who called himself al qaeda and before his death he made chilling claims about homemade videos. >> plus bill maher says america is too sensitive and folks apologize way too much for what they say. coming up, i will speak live with comedian dena mudall amplt h who says there is a line. >> and she is the youngest woman on death row, but police say a friend along with a prison guard
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>> zimmerman, wore the clothing the 17-year-old trayvon martin wore the clothing hoodie that zimmerman described as suspicious. >> our son was not committing crimes. our son is your son. >> yes. >> we want to stand up for justice. >> and as you know, the outrage, not just about zimmerman's actions but also about the lack of action by sanford police and the criticism apparently is not new. according to the county naacp leader, turner clayton, he has a much deeper perspective on this since he worked as a sheriff's deputy in the county for more than 20 years. i want to welcome him. joining me live from sanford and, mr. clayton, at first let me get to the news we heard that north norton is holding this first briefing he will make daily today. what do you want to hear from
him? >> we hope he will say he is terminating the police chief. that would be the best reason to have this particular news conference today. >> we know the vote was 3-2 last night. do you think terminating the place chief who has been on the job for ten months, do you think this will eradicate the problem going on with the folks in sanford and the police department for quite some time? >> it will give more credence and evidence that the city is interested in trying to bring about calm in the community. the city commission voted a 3-2 vote last night on low confidence and now it is up to the city to carry out the 3-2 video. if you decide to go ahead and carry out the vote, then that can kind of calm the community down and relieve some of the outrage. >> let many he ask you a little about the outrage. i know that you know you naacp, you held the gathering at a
church in town last night talking about the shooting of trayvon martin and the experience individuals have had with police in town. can you give me an idea what you heard last night? >> we had various citizens come in to voice their complaints that they had with the police department, and some stated that their loved ones have been killed and in some cases no report was actually taken or there was no complete investigation, and as to why they was killed and anyone brought to justice in those particular cases. we had several complainants who voiced the same concern in regards to that. >> we brought some of those concerns, one of our producers on the ground, you know, brought the concerns to the sanford police department. their response to us was no comment. as i mentioned, you worked with these sanford sheriff's department for more than two decades. when you hear these complaints, voice, multiple times last night, does it sound like the
sanford you know and lived in for years? >> well, yes. just listening to what they had to say, yes, i can verify a lot of those complaints and because it is not the first time i have heard those complaints, and of course in some of those cases even though we did not investigate complaints within the city limits concerning murders and other killings, we did have knowledge of those taking place, so a lot of times our justice did not prevail in those cases. >> if you had the knowledge and you didn't investigate as a citizen leader, why not? why not sound the alarm earlier? >> as a citizen and a leader of the naacp, once we actually found out about what has happened, then we laumpl our independent investigation and of course we also asked the state attorney to come in and prosecute those cases and
referred cases to come in and investigate and some of those cases they have taken and investigate and had turned the reports over to the state attorney's office and most likely the state attorney in a lot of the cases did not prosecute. >> i understand. what do you want to see happen here? this seems to me such a bigger issue than this horrible story involving trayvon martin. >> well, we have issued three goals to the city of sanford. the first goal is that we would like to see george zimmerman arrested and of course we know that the case in turn went to the state attorney and they have full jurisdiction at this time. the state attorney has the authorization to either go ahead and file former charges or convene a grand jury. they have decided to go ahead and convene a grand jury at this time but that won't happen until april. so during that particular time we have told the city manager
that he needs to go ahead and take some immediate action and go ahead and terminate the chief of police. the third thing that we ask for is for the d o.j. to come in and investigate the sanford police department and with the information that we are going to supply to them, i am pretty sure they can find a pattern of operation in this department and of course we are asking them once they find that pattern to take over the sanford police department. >> interesting you choose the word pattern. given the three goals, i just want to end with this. i was reading one of the comments, one of the city's only black commissioner said vel ma williams was calling calling all of this a national embarrassment. sir, is it an embarrassment or is it something more than that? >> it is a huge embarrassment for the city of sanford. it is a huge black eye. the only way they going to recover from this is take some immediate action. the entire nation is watching. as we -- i just had a meeting
with the city manager about 30 minutes ago. we informed him of that. we also told him that it is time for him to take immediate action and go ahead and terminate the chief of police so that we can start rebuilding in the community. >> we will see what comes out that far news conference he will be giving in an hour. we'll take it live. turner clayton, thanks to you. i appreciate it. coming up, he is accused of killing jewish children, a rabbi, soldiers, and taking video of older murders. he is suspected of being trained by al qaeda, details about a standoff 32 hours with this man ended after a quick break. choose control.
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he was 23-year-old muhammed merah. he is now dead, killed in a hail of bullet that is ended with a 32-hour standoff with french police, so inside his apartment officials say they found videos of all of his shootings and in fact in the first video showing the shooting of a french soldier in toulouse on march 11. this man told the soldier, quote, you kill my brothers, i kill you. in another video showing how merah gunned down two french soldiers last week he is heard saying allah akbar, god is great, and we're learning muhammed merah had trained at an kwaet training camp according to a u.s. intelligence official who says merah was on the no-fly list and had been on the list for quite some time and wouldn't be more specific. president obama is putting the fast track on the keystone pipeline, at least part of it, and republicans are pushing for the entire project to get going. we're talking about 700,000 barrels of oil a day if completed and this isn't just
president obama announced today he is fast tracking the southern part of the keystone excel pipeline. i want to you take a close look here. you see that the green arrow, that's the pointing to the part of the proposed pipeline that flows south of cushing, oklahoma, to the texas gulf coast and that's to be fast tracked. the rest of the pipeline remains on hold while environmental concerns are worked out. this is the president speaking about this today. >> the problem in a place like curving is we're producing so much oil and gas in places like north dakota and colorado that we don't have enough pipeline capacity to transport all of it to where it needs to go, both to refineries and eventually all across the country and around the world. there is a bottleneck right here
because we can't get enough of the oil to our refineries fast enough. >> i want to bring in oklahoma oil man harold hamm from oklahoma city. for transparency sake i need to tell everyone you are mitt romney's energy advisor. that said, you heard the president today. big news, good news, right? >> yes, it is good. it is really good news that he is pushing for this pipeline and it is certainly needed and the whole pipeline was needed and it is kind of ironic that he is standing in front of the pipe that could be in the ground right now if he hadn't stopped it. it is goddess pushing for it. >> let many he get to that point i think you're alluding to. you and some of your colleagues write this letter entitled actions not words will determine energy future. your basic message, five paragraphs in, approval of the entire keystone excel pipeline should happen now, not after the
election. why now? >> well, it is needed now. it is the cost to the consumer money to pump every day and because this oil, he is right, it is bottlenecked in cushing, oklahoma, instead of being able to get to the consumers, and to the refineries where we need it. that delay is costing everybody and needs to be done now and instead of after the election, so that's true. >> how is it costing me more money? i thought gas prices were set by speculators and fluctuating based upon fears in the market, what's happening in iran, et cetera. how is this costing me specifically? >> well, we're using oil from other places that this oil could get to. right now there is a big differential between wti and prices of about 15 to $18 per barrel, so that converts to
almost six cents a gallon. it is a big amount right there. my message is not to be an obama critic. that's not my message. i am in explorations. i am one that produce a lot of oil in north dakota and we found that the larnlest field, ever found in the u.s., and then in the world for the last 40 years and that's what we're developing up there. there is a whole lot of oil to be developed and that's the biggest point, i think, that i would like to make is that we can be energy self sufficiency, self sufficient, and interdependent here in north america, and so that's a big factor. there is american energy renaissance going on today and all comes about with horizontal drilling, and it is making a huge impact. we have 100-year supply of natural gas, and if we weren't held up, you know, didn't have so many hurdles, we could be
interdependent here in north america in the next ten years. that's a big thing that has huge implications. >> i think no matter what aisle you're on you want the energy independence for the united states. also part of the story as you talk about this renaissance, and you hear politicians now including the president talk ago lot about the economy and job creation and folks being in the oil man that you are, from folks you are talking to, how many jobs could be created here? >> about 1.1 million jobs could be created, you know, if given the opportunity. besides that, you know, the american energy security, the balance of trade, and all of these jobs that are good paying middle class jobs, a lot of these jobs are average jobs in our business about 107,000 a year. >> hang on. i have to bring you back to that number, 1.1 million. i was talking to the folks at cnnmoney.com and that's the biggest discrepancy in telling the story. when you talk to transcanada
they claim 20,000 and that's the biggest number we saw from transcanada and then you also have 6,000, this is according to the state department, and cornell university reduces it to something like 4,600. where are you getting the 1.1 million from and how much of that is permanent versus temporary? >> this is a recent survey done, you know, given our ability to reach energy independence over the next ten years that 1.1 million jobs could be created. we create a lot of jobs in north dakota, about close to 50,000 jobs directly related to the industry and in our industry and about five times that number indirect jobs. >> who did the survey? i missed that. >> this survey was done by api and several others in
conjunction with a.p.i. and a lot of other industry sources. >> american petroleum institute, so they're the ones conducting the survey. okay. that's 1.1 million. that's specific to jobs from the pipeline or you're talking energy in general? >> no, i am talking energy in general, not just related to this keystone pipeline, no. >> harold hamm, we'll see if the rest of this pipeline gets okayed in this election year. appreciate your time there for us in oklahoma. want to read a quote here. this is a quote. i don't want to live in a country where no one ever says anything that after fends anyone. did you read this this morning from bill mauer. he wants people to stop apologizing for things they say. we'll talk to a comedian who says that would be nice. there is a fine line, folks. [worker 2:] we need environmental protection. [announcer:] conocophillips says, you're right. find out how natural gas answers both at powerincooperation.com.
some conservatives think robert de niro should stick to the drama after a joke he told taenlded by the first lady. here is what he said. quote, gingrich, santorum, ann romney, do you really think our country is ready for a white first lady? supposedly it went over well and they weren't laughing so much when it went out. they called them inappropriate and the act or issued this statement, quote, my remarks although spoken with were not meant to offend or embarrass anyone especially the first
lady. that's not good enough for newt gingrich. >> what de niro said last night was inexcusable and the president should apologize and it was at an obama fundraiser and it is wrong and divides the country. >> hereby is de niro's respons >> are you talking to me? are you talking to me? >> sorry, that was actually a clip from taxi driver. anyway, look, doesn't seem like the romneys are taking offense. here is what ann robin meade any told piers morgan. >> i took it for what it was, a joke. we take everything so seriously and apologize and i can say i can laugh at it. let's take it for what it is. we're all over reactoring to so many things and making things so difficult which means we have to watch every single word that comes out of our mouth. >> so guess who agrees with ann romney who is laughing as well in bill maher of all people.
he has this op he had in today's "new york times" and the title is please stop apologizing. let me read part of it. he says let's have from every play acted, hurt, constitutionality, slight and afront. if you see or hear something you don't like in the media, just go on with your life. i want to bring in another political comedian and, dean, i am assuming you are agreeing with mr. maher here, yes? >> a degree in principle. there is this war on comedy going on. i think it is a war he are have to get out of much sooner. it is not helpful, especially when it comes to political comedy and figures. we have a great tradition of using comedy to raise issues, challenge the status quo, challenge people in power and i am afraid that this kind of war in comedy will stifle that. overall i agree with bill. i have a different opinion on some of the subtle at thises what he said in his article today. >> i will ask you about if you
had to issue that in the past. would the media go after an actor that joked about a black first lady? >> i think they probably would to be honest with you. it really depends on the tone and how they said it. i think and i will be honest, i think most americans know the difference of someone being playful and being demonizing and hateful. playful should be protected. we know that. i think there could be something, a joke about a black first lady, and mocking her, rush limbaugh made fun and others have and pushback against that and the joke was funny and he didn't mean anything and he was flipping the 08d things from four years ago, is america ready for a black president? it was fun zi that's all it was? >> we know the difference. let's be honest. was he being hateful? newt gingrich may be desperate to get in the media as the campaign is falling apart and the party is rejecting him and he is coming to the rest and this is why. he is out of step. he is wrong on this. he is completely wrong. >> let me bring this back to
bill maher. it is a great read whether you agree or not. isn't it a little self serving? certainly of all people bill maher has been called onto apologize for many things, many offensive things, what he said about sara palin which i will not repeat. >> absolutely and i wrote an op he had called stop the war on terror earlier this week defending bill maher's right to say that. when you attack a public figure who runs to be a heart beat away from the leader of the free world, it comes with the territory. we have to have the freedom to mock the elected officials even with words i might not use or don't like. turn the channel just like bill maher says. when you are demonizing private citizens or making homophobic racist remarks, you answer for that. that's life. >> what about you? have you ever crossed the line and said what you said back and i shouldn't have, i am sorry, as i joke you thought initially. >> sure. i tweet things and get pushback from my followers going what are you doing?
this is wrong, or on facebook. it is there. the difference is frankly i will be brutally honest. if you are famous, you are held to a higher standard. in new york they can say worse things than you ever hear on the tv shows or comments in question. when you are famous on tmz or publiclyist, it cross from killing the audience to killing your career. to me it is more the subject matter. political comedy must be protected like political speech. it is that important. look at the history we have in america. richard pryor, lenny bruce went to jail for cursing in new york city in the 60s. the world changed a lot. jon stewart, stephen colbert, chris rock, they raised comedy beyond making people laugh. >> and actually educating people. >> absolutely. we can't lose that. sometimes you have to allow insulting things and things you might not like to hear for the god of freedom of expression. that's what we need to protect. >> i appreciate it. thank you. now to this, the young man
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the former rutgers student convicted of a hate crime in the death of his gay roommate is speaking out for the first time. we're talking dharun ravi. he talked about why he refused a plea deal in the death of tyler clementi. here is what he said in part. if i took the plea i would have had to testify that i did what i did to intimidate tyler and that would be a lie. the jury as you know found ravi guilty of spying on cle member at this while he was having a sexual encounter with another man.
ravi shown here with his father could land in jail for ten years and he gave that interview to "star-ledger" columnist mike diono and he spoke with karen by phone. take a listen to what he said. >> he struck me as sincere. he answered some questions with blunt honesty. at one point i ask him about the second night where he was studying and what were you thinking and he said i wasn't. he said my ego basically, said, got the better of me. i thought it was funny, and he admitted to be the center of attention with his friends. so i do think that he was sincere. >> what struck me in reading your article, he doesn't regret not taking that plea deal. that plea deal wouldn't involve any jail time and now he could go to jail for ten years. >> well, i think his father first told me last week about
this, the family decision to not accept the bias intimidation plea under any circumstances. they would have pled guilty according to his attorney and he would have pled guilty to attempted invasion of privacy and he might have pled guilty to invasion of privacy, but middlesex county prosecutor's office was firm in that he accept the bias intimidation charge as part of the plea. the family was just opposed to that, and in the conversation i had with dharun yesterday, he basically said it would have been a lie to go up and admit that i did what i did out of bias or against tyler. i didn't feel that way. i didn't do it because i was biassed. i did it because i was -- it was prank, knitty. >> that was my word, not his. >> sentencing is set for may
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you can already buy tim tebow's new jersey, jets jersey. his trade isn't even 24 hours old. you know he is going to new york now that peyton manning is taking over his old team, the denver broncos. tim tebow is already a media lightning rod and the reasons are many. run through a cup. all the predictions he failed in the nfl even after a stellar college career at florida and the i am probable trip to the playoffs he led for the broncos, remember that one, and his devout faith that makes him stand out even where everyone thinks god in post game interviews. that's a quick rundown. new york city is a totally different ball game. it is the biggest media market in the entire country. paparazzi, you know they will pop up all around behind each and every corner hoping to catch tebow with a drink in his hand or coming out of a strip club and any hit to the squeaky clean image. it can be very tough even more a man that handled past frenzies with class and i want to bring
in someone who knows what i am talking about, the pressures of playing in new york, a former wide receiver who played 13 seasons, 13, with the new york giants and monte, awesome to have you on. you know this first hand. tell me about the kind of scrutiny players get in the city. >> excuse me one more time. >> tell me what kind of scrutiny, pressure you feel playing in new york. >> well, new york is a tough town. people expect you to go out and play to the best of your ability at all times. when you don't, the fans will let you know it. they will boo you and for a guy coming from a situation where everybody loves him and coming to new york, they to want see what you will do on the field. they don't care about what happened before. if you don't play well, they will let you hear it. >> let me ask you about that. let's say tebow gets playing time and supposed to be back and gets time and sanchez isn't playing and say he doesn't deliver. what does it sound like when you are booed by a new york city
crowd? >> you can take it one or two-wa two-ways. you can take it as they don't like you but what i did is i took it as this crowd sees what i can do and can know i can do better and it is their way of trying to motivate me to do well. if you take it that way it doesn't bother you so much but some people take it to heart and it is a tough pill to swallow when you are not used to that scrutiny. >> how loud are the boos? are your ears ringing the next day. >> i got booed a little bit. >> not that you would know. >> happens to everybody in new york. >> a lot of people wonder whether the city will seduce tim tebow. what kind of temptations might he face? you have the girls, the drugs, celebrities, all there in this epicenter. >> i don't know about all of that. if you're whatever type of person you are, new york city is not going to change you and he is a strong person, strong in his faith, and i think he will be fine and new york city is not that place where it makes you turn you into somethyo