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the interview you'll see only here. plus, iron mike tyson. born into desperate poverty but also born to box. at his prime one punch was all it took. the only one who could stop him was himself. >> i wanted to. i don't know if i was prepared for it, but i wanted it. >> we watched the collapse unfold in and out of the ring. the bizarre meltdowns, the rape charge, the prison sentence. >> i think i used bad judgment and i have to deal with the circumstances. >> and then, battered by personal tragedy, the redemption. a new man, a new life. stealing the show in "the hangover." mike tyson, raw and ready for the next round. a primetime exclusive. this is "piers morgan tonight."
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let's get straight to the big story, trayvon martin. an exclusive interview with robert zimmerman whose brother george killed trayvon in what he said was self-defense. robert thank you, for joining he mn't tonight. why are you here? why do you want to do this interview? >> i think the tide has turned. there's a lot of loose ends to this story. some of them have to do with the events of that night and an investigation. some of them have moved on to a lot of hate speech. people like the mcclain family having to flee their home. people taking really -- putting emotions ahead of fact and putting our family and other families in danger. >> have your family had death threats? >> oh, yes. yes. >> credible threats? >> credible threats, yes. they have. yeah. >> against more than one member? against more than george? against others? >> i'm really not at liberty to discuss exactly who was threatened or how they were threatened. but i can tell you that i myself have been contacted by law
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enforcement too because there was credible intelligence that could threaten me. so i look a lot like my brother. people can easily confuse us. and in this misinformation that's been going on, that's been a constant fear of mine, that i would be -- >> nobody has heard from your brother, and therefore a mythology has built up about him. he is at the moment one of the most hated people in america. and we don't know anything about him. tell me about your brother. tell me what you want to say about him that can be his defense, if you like. >> yeah. i agree. it is a mythology that's been built up. and it's not because no one has had anything to say about george or because his family doesn't love him or support him. or not because he doesn't have supporters. it's been because the people who love and support george, his family namely, also respect the system, the judicial system, and the legal system that we have in america and that we don't have sadly sometimes the opportunity to comment when there are investigations going forth to
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respect the integrity of that actual investigation. but as far as george goes, he's a neighbor that everybody would want to have. he's the kind of guy that sees somebody struggling with changing a tire and stops to help them or helps older people with their groceries. he goes out of his way to help people. he always has. that's the kind of guy he is. >> i mean, people watching this saying, sure, maybe he was, maybe that is what he did. then why would somebody like that, why would somebody kind to the neighbors, wanting to do the right thing, do the decent thing, why would somebody like that get into some kind of altercation with a young 17-year-old boy, defy instructions he's given from a 911 operator, chase after him, some altercation clearly appears to have happened, and then your brother pulls out a gun and shoots him? why would your brother do that? >> well, you know, taking from what you said, when you say chasing after and getting into an altercation, there's a lot of
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ways that people get into altercations. i believe that if you wanted to reach over this table and assault me badly enough you could be armed with chapstick and a toothpick and still put me in fear of my -- reasonable fear of my life. he didn't get into an altercation. people don't just get into altercations. there are aggressors -- >> when did you first hear from george after this incident, you personally? >> me personally, i heard immediately after the incident. by immediately -- >> within an hour? >> i would say within 24 hours. >> within 24 hours. so the next day. >> would be the closest i'm willing to narrow the window down of exactly when george spoke. yeah. it would be within the next 24 hours. >> and what exactly did he tell you about what happened? >> well, some of the details have come out. you know, unfortunately, miss corey's investigation has been compromised. some details have been leaked. and that's why we can talk as the family more about -- now, what george told us was the truth. this fantasy, or this mythology
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that he chased a person is just absolutely false. he didn't chase anyone. >> on the 911 call he says that he's seen somebody suspicious who is running, and he says he's pursuing him, and he's told, police don't do that. >> and he says okay. and anything past that point is conjecture by the media. >> let's listen to this crucial bit of tape. this is from the 911 call. >> he's running. >> he's running? which way is he running? >> down towards the other entrance of the neighborhood. >> okay. which entrance is that that he's heading toward? >> the back entrance. >> are you following him? >> yeah. >> okay. we don't need you to do that. >> so the dispatcher says okay. >> right. george says okay. he says we don't need to you do that. and then george does stop following that individual. i believe, actually -- i believe he may have actually lost sight
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of that individual. >> when you say he stopped following, how do you know that? >> i believe that's what george -- and that's what's in the police reports and that's what has been leaked. >> the police report would be based on what george told the police on the night. wouldn't it? >> right. >> there's been no actual eyewitness to this. it's only george's word, isn't it? >> correct. it is only george's word. at this point. there was an eyewitness or two to the actual assault. but to the part where you're talking about where he followed or did not follow, he did not follow, nor did he ever catch up to mr. martin. mr. martin allegedly was close to his home, yet found himself so far from the front door. i guess unable to find his way home. you know, if he were really being pursued, i don't know how he couldn't make it home. >> what did george tell you trayvon martin allegedly did to him? >> what has come out that i can talk about today is that trayvon
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martin somehow snuck up on him. and according to mr. crump, an attorney, he was on -- we don't know if this is verifiable information, but he was on the phone with his girlfriend. i don't know if that's a police source. but i know his attorney at least holds up the girlfriend as a source and says trayvon told him no, i'm not running, i'm going to walk real slow. and trayvon went up to george and said the first thing to george. and there's some discussion about did he say "do you have a problem? do you have a problem? are you following me? why are you following me" -- >> what did george tell you he said? >> one of those things. do you have a problem with me? following me? why are you following me? something like that. my brother drew back to grab his phone in retreat to call again 911 and say, well, now this person who i lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me. that's what he did. he never got to make that call because he was attacked by mr. martin. >> and when you say attacked, what did george tell you trayvon did to him? >> well, i don't know -- i
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believe that at the time george knew he had sustained some kind of injury to his face or his nose. i don't know that he knew it was broken. >> you see, here's the weird thing. how do you explain as a family the video that came out last night with your brother within not much time after this incident walking around unaided, perfectly okay with no apparent markings to his face. i mean, if you get a broken nose or the kind of head injury sustainable from having your head smashed on a concrete floor, you're going to have blood everywhere. you're going to have visible injuries. there is nothing. i mean, we're looking at the images now. there's no visible sign of any attack. how do you explain that? >> we're confident the medical records are going to explain all of george's medical history, both how he was treated at the scene and how he was not -- to me his nose looks swollen in that video. i'm his brother. so to me -- >> have you talked to george about the video since it came out? >> i'm really not at liberty to
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say. that particular piece of information about the video or about how he thinks his appearance may or may not be. what i think i see is a swollen nose. now, i'm not a physician. you're not a physician. a lot of these injuries take time, 24 hours, 36 hours, to show the bruising. sometimes the bone breaks and the blood is swallowed. like in the case of, for example, if your hand would be on someone's nose or mouth preventing them from -- >> does he have any injuries now? >> his nose is still broken. >> it's still broken? >> his nose is still broken. yeah. >> a month later it's still brokeen? >> his nose, yeah. i don't know about the back of his head. i mean, his nose is still healing. it's not healed. he's not a -- he has very severe emotional injuries. he has -- he's been diagnosed with prophet traumatic stress disorder. he was not right from the moment it happened. he didn't call his family and express anything but, you know, sadness. it was just a darkness. he had changed. he wasn't the same.
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he would never be the same. he was very disappointed that none of the neighbors had come out and helped, that the whole situation potentially could have been avoided by just someone coming out and saying, hey, what's going on out there? or -- >> let me ask you a difficult question, robert. >> sure. >> and you're not on trial for anything here. you're not the accused. but you are the brother of george. if we reversed the situation and it was your brother who had been gunned down in exactly the same set of circumstances and the worst that had happened as far as his behavior was that he had been followed and he'd gotten into an altercation and he was unarmed, he just had a bag of skittles on him and a guy who was much older, swwho followed m in the street pulled out a gun and shot him dead. would you not at the very least if you're honest and candid about this, would you not have expected that person to at least be arrested, to at least perhaps face some kind of trial where the full evidence could come
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out? >> well, i take -- i take pause to that whole, you know, conjecture again of pulled out a gun and shot him. that's absolutely not fact. it's -- >> it is what happened, though. >> no, it is not what happened. >> he did pull out a gun and shoot him, right? >> well, he stopped someone from disarming him and shooting him. he didn't pull out a gun and shoot him. george showed tremendous restraint. >> but he had the gun on him, right? >> he had a permit to carry that gun. >> where was the gun? >> the gun i believe was in his -- inside, tucked inside his pant waist. in a waist holster. >> right. so he has pulled it out, and he has fired it. >> well, he has taken control of his firearm. he prevented his firearm from being taken from him and used against him. and that's called saving your life. >> right. so you believe as a family -- is this what george told you the next day? that trayvon was trying to grab his gun to use against him? >> my father also is on record
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yesterday night saying that. and again, what trayvon said was either to the effect of i believe "this is going to be easy. you die tonight or you have a piece you die tonight." and then attempted to disarm him. so when you say have a bag of skittles and an iced tea, nobody just stood there with a bag of skit sxlz an i skittles and an iced tea. you return force with force when somebody assaults you. george was out of breath. he was barely conscious. his last thing he remembers doing was moving his head from the concrete to the grass so that if he was banged one more time he wouldn't be, you know, wearing diapers for the rest of his life and being spoon-fed by his brother. and there would have been george dead had he not acted decisively and instantaneously in that moment when he was being disarmed -- >> i mean, there are people watching this saying, well, the family would say this. they're protecting their brother. he may well have invented this whole story once he realized what he'd done. he may have just thought the only way i can get out of this is to use this stand your ground
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law, under florida law, and just invent this whole story. he may have even inflicted the injuries himself. we don't know, do we? nobody actually knows. >> well, the eyewitness that was there actually saw -- i don't think his face has been revealed. i know that the police have his testimony. i know that media ain florida have gone to his house and he doesn't want to open the door. but he did apparently see the whole thing from the first blow. >> hold that thought, robert. we'll come back after a short break and discuss this more. >> thanks. your finances can't manage themselves. but that doesn't mean they won't try. bring all your finances together with the help of the one person who can. a certified financial planner professional. cfp. let's make a plan.
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ewill be giving awayuse for passafree copiesrline, of the alcoholism & addiction cure. to get yours, go to ssagesmalibubook.com. do you need police, fire, or medical? >> maybe both. i'm not sure. there's just someone screaming outside. [ screams ] >> so you think he's yelling "help"? >> yes. >> okay, what is your -- >> there's gunshots. >> you just heard gunshots? >> yes. >> how many? >> just one. >> the chilling 911 call as the shooting of trayvon martin was taking place. back with me now is robert zimmerman. his brother, george, killed trayvon martin. who was screaming there, robert? >> that's my brother. >> how can you be so sure? because trayvon's family are equally adamant it is their boy.
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>> you know, that's a very sensitive thing to talk about. i don't blame them for being as equally adamant. i don't blame anybody whose family member they believe or perceive that they hear on the tape for as being as equally adamant. i would expect nothing less, actually. i know that that's george. i know that one of the -- the saddest things for him in this whole thing is that despite those screams no one came to his aid. those screams could have avoided, you know, what eventually george had to do to defend his life. if someone had, you know, heard them, come out, shined a light on the situation, said, get out of here, what are you guys doing? because of that pain he felt in particular, that he was screaming out so many times, i
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know that that's his voice. it sounds just like my voice. i mean, he's my brother. that's what i sound like if i yell. but, you know, there are hopefully technological means to sort all that out. >> the other technological means that are being deployed on tape are the reference that your brother makes under his breath, which appears to be the racial term that the people have deduced it was. i'm not going to repeat it now. >> i've heard it, yes. >> you know what it is. i mean, cnn got that slowed down, replayed it ten times. i heard it. i'm pretty sure what i heard. i'm pretty sure it was a racial slur. what else could it have been? >> it could have been anything. if we slowed -- >> you know your brother, and you look like him, you sound like him. >> right. he speaks two languages fluently. >> what do you think he's saying? >> that part -- that tape, it's my understanding, is not actually in the original 911 tapes. it's after media outlets have slowed down, buffed up, redone, retouched, reconditioned -- >> but it exists.
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>> well, it does not exist after as it exists. it is a reconditioned piece of audio to satisfy whatever you want anybody to hear in that tape. i don't -- >> well, i don't think it is. i mean, i think that, to be factual, that part of the tape is under his breath. the police missed it first time around. they've accepted that. the question becomes, what is your brother saying? as i say, when i heard it, i believe i heard a racial slur. what do you think you heard? >> right, i believe -- >> or what do you think those two words were? >> again, i just -- i don't believe that, first of all, that they're words. i don't think that when someone is running and making, you know, utterances, not necessarily words, but utterances from strain under their breath, you can take any of that -- >> but what do you believe he was saying? >> i have no idea that he was even saying anything. that's what i'm trying to say. >> well, he clearly is saying something. i mean, he's clearly saying two words. >> i don't know that that's the
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case, piers. i -- >> the reason that i'm asking is if he's saying what i and many others believe him to be saying, it adds a racial element to this. it adds fuel to the fire that this was a case of racial profiling, that your brother saw a young black boy in a hoodie and decided he had to deal with him. >> right. well, that whole hoodie thing, that's another -- a hoodie is a description. you know, you're a man wearing a black suit and a red tie. that doesn't mean that if you commit a crime we should all go out and march in black suits and red ties. that was just simply how someone was described. that's not what made him -- >> have you ever heard your brother utter a racist remark about anybody? >> no. and certainly that word is not even in his vocabulary. of all words to say this was a racial slur, i'm a little bit older, you know, i was kind of familiar with it, that it was used in literature, you know, things like that, and that it was a word much more prevalent before.
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you know, something kind of you're exposed to in school growing up reading, but -- >> let me ask you this. why was your brother walking around this neighborhood anyway? he didn't have his neighborhood watch stuff on. nothing to identify him as any kind of neighborhood watch operative or security guy. so if you're trayvon martin, 17 years old, you're a boy, you're going to your father's girlfriend's house, you've been to a store, you've bought some skittles, and there's this big guy who is following you, it's scary, isn't it? i mean, you can't blame trayvon martin for wondering what the hell this guy's doing or who he is? >> well, you know, sadly, even your statements now are just a product of conjecture. saying that he was patrolling a neighborhood is absolutely false. he was not patrolling the neighborhood. he was going to a store, target. there was someone in the rain. according to even mr. crump, the family's attorney, taking
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shelter, what he calls taking shelter in other buildings. so george just saw simply, someone, who everyone lives in florida knows when it rains, it pours. people take shelter in their home or they see that it's raining and they wait ten minutes and then they go out. george saw mr. martin suspicious in context of what has been happening in his community, not just -- >> well, george found him suspicious. >> george found him suspicious. >> i mean, trayvon martin would argue he wasn't being suspicious at all. he was just walking to a house. >> right. and the police are the people who, you know, would have made that determination ultimately. >> how do you feel, personally, that your brother has killed somebody in these circumstances? >> no matter what, you know, i try to think of what if this were me? what if this were someone who had broken into my home and i had to defend myself or some other situation, where self-defense fits the mold more and it's easy, we can understand, oh, yeah, that's clearly self-defense because there's no room for conjecture. this was my home, you broke in, and that happened. i've tried to think about it in
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terms of what if this were me. i would at least want to feel supported by my family. and i would definitely, definitely respect the process that we have in this country. >> would it be easier for everybody, particularly your brother, if he was now arrested and there was a proper investigation that started from that point? do you believe that it was actually, with hindsight, a mistake for the police to effectively conclude on the night he had no case to answer? >> yeah, absolutely not. investigations in our country are not effectively started once people are arrested. nor are people arrested simply because another group demands their arrest. there is either probable cause or there is not probable cause to arrest someone. >> has george ever lied to you? >> not to my knowledge, no. >> he's always been completely, 100% honest? >> he would be the more honest of the two. the most honest brother. he's very straight and narrow. and you know, very helpful guy. very concerned with his neighbor and the truth. >> very quickly, finally, what would you say to the family of trayvon martin?
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to his mother in particular. >> well, to his mother, you know, personally myself, i can't speak for george, this is a tragedy. her son was lost. i feel very badly about that. and i want, in the end, not for her son's memory to be seen as how we degraded our system and turned it into mob rule and went into a hate speech, you know, carnival of hatred and let's go get him and tweeting addresses. i want mrs. martin, the same mrs. martin yeerday who saw humanity in my brother, to know that i can see humanity too in trayvon. i understand this is a story about human beings, and i think that was a touching thing that she said last night. and you know, ultimately, we all wish that this was a different situation. >> robert zimmerman, thank you very much for coming in today. >> thank you, piers. thanks for having me.
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>> i appreciate that your family is also going through a very pretty hellish time right now. and i appreciate you showing your face and sticking up for your brother. >> thank you, piers. >> thank you. next, a man who has strong feelings about this story, the always outspoken mike tyson. ♪ ...that right now, you want to know where you are, and where you'd like to be. we know you'd like to see the same information your advisor does so you can get a deeper understanding of what's going on with your portfolio. we know all this because we asked you, and what we heard helped us create pnc wealth insight, a smarter way to work with your pnc advisor, so you can make better decisions and live achievement. two of the most important are energy security and economic growth. north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. a large part of that is oil sands. this resource has the ability to create hundreds of thousands of jobs. at our kearl project in canada,
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how are you doing? right on the chin. i'm going to relax. i don't want my head to swell any more than it is. >> the documentary "tyson." what's happened since then?
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in was a time when mike tyson made headlines in everything but boxing. he was certainly no choir boy. now he's fought his way back from the dark side but he's still the outspoken and unpredictable iron mike and i'm glad to say he joins me now. welcome. >> how are you doing, piers? >> what did you make of the interview i've just had with george zimmerman's brother? >> i don't know. i wasn't there. i don't know what happened. i have a good opinion what happened, like everyone else. i don't know. he doesn't look like a seasoned enough liar to talk to you. >> what do you think happened? from everything you've seen and read? >> i don't know what happened. >> do you believe that any kind of altercation, if trayvon was unarmed, justifies somebody shooting him? >> well, i just know that young man shouldn't be dead from this ordeal. you know? i can only go by what i saw on television. i don't know if it's true or not, but i can only go by what i
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see on television. once the officer told him to stop following him, he should have took that order from a superior and stopped following him. and once he stopped following, the young kid continues to go. what happened after that order was denied? i don't know. >> do you believe, as many do in the black community, that young black teenagers in hoodies get profiled, get chosen, targeted for this kind of thing? do you believe that? >> it doesn't matter what i believe or not. the history of the nation proves it. what i say means nothing. we have to go by the history of particular incidents like this. and that's the proof. this is just the television, of course, saying this. how did the young kid know that he has a gun to go for the gun? i don't know. >> that's a very good point. i mean, how did he go that he
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had a gun? >> to go for it. >> unless he saw it. >> unless he saw it, yeah. unless he was trying to do for it -- i don't know, unless he's defending himself. >> what do you think -- >> i want to believe that mr. zimmerman did something wrong and illegal, but i wasn't there. >> do you think he should have been arrested on the night? do you think it's a strange law in america, in modern america, that somebody can stand their ground in the street in these circumstances, having defied an instruction from the 911 operator, do you think that that's acceptable? is this a law that should exist? >> i don't know. i don't think it should, but then again, i'm not a state representative. i don't make these laws. i don't know the pretense of these laws. and the only thing i could do is be a citizen of america and i guess base my opinion. and this is really bad stuff. it makes -- the whole world is watching us, is watching our
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judicial system. and just from the world looking in and being objective, we have -- man, we have laws that are a disgrace to a nation of savages. from the world looking in, from the civilized world looking in. and i don't know. us as black people. you gave me that format because you used that word. african-american, black people. we are -- and this is -- i'm just talking. we're so accustomed with these laws, with these overt laws, we're very accustomed to them. >> do you think america, mike, has become more or less racist since barack obama, an african-american, became president? >> there's a great possibility, yes. >> that it's become worse? >> 100%, yes. that's how these groups surface. these red -- these tea partiers and everything. listen, it's new stuff. being a black man, having the image of the strongest man on
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the planet, the biggest man in the world, from a political point, standpoint, not just a physical standpoint. he can send the strongest army in the world in your country and stuff. and that must be pretty tough to take in when you're -- i don't know. it's just the way this country is. i believe this is the best country in the world. we have problems we have to iron out, but -- >> how do you think barack obama's doing as president? >> i don't know. i live in a barack obama household. from ethnicity, i think that's beautiful seeing a black president, for my children to see a black president, but i'm just -- regardless if he's president or not, i have to be the one in my family, if he's president or if he's not president, i'm going to be the one paying the bills and working. so we really -- >> now that your life has
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changed and you have to pay bills and you have to think about money and all those things, very different to when you had half a billion dollars and so on. now that you're in that position and you can relate probably much better to people on the street, going through hardship, not having jobs and so on, do you think america is coming out of the bad times or do you think that it's still pretty set in the bad times? >> i don't know. but whatever it is, we're going to make it. we're going to get out of it. whatever it is. this is just what life is all about. the good times and hard times. this is just what it is. hard times fall upon everybody, every nation, and if you continue to live, you'll be able to see the good times, i guess. >> let's take a short break. i want to come back and talk to you about your extraordinary comeback. because you went to hell and back. most of it, i'm sure you would admit, probably down to you. some of it down to circumstance. i'm going to get your feelings about what it's like for you now to be mike tyson today. >> i want to do that too. ok, guys-- what's next ?
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suspect the good, expect the worse. okay? when the good happens it happens. i don't expect anybody who put me in prison is in the least -- if someone puts me in here and
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the more polite i am the more i lay back, that's not going to make them take their foot off the neck. that's going to make them question more. if you're in a fight with somebody and hurt them, the objective is not to back off and let them recoup. the objective is to smash them into oblivion. >> mike tyson in prison in 1994, serving a sentence for rape. when you see that mike, do you recognize that mike tyson? because you seem a very different man today. >> well, i don't know, that guy's pretty deep. you know, i don't know. he's pretty intense, and that's just who i was for that time. >> do you feel that you've changed? when i read your twitter feed, you're a big tweeter, you seem a much calmer man today than you were then. >> well, i don't know if i am. i guess maybe after all that fighting the red flags seemed more relieving when they went up. i'm just happy hanging out with my wife. that's the main focal point of my wife, my life and my children. >> your wife's an extraordinary woman, kiki. i've had the pleasure of meeting her.
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>> she's extra extraordinary. >> how has she changed you? >> you can't even fathom the ways. i'm just a human being now. when i was with my wife, i was a -- man, i was od'ing once a week. i was -- man, i was a neanderthal. and i don't know. i just can't even imagine how this could have even happened, that i just have a respectable family and we travel together. i have some convicts that's not deserve i deserving of a prostitute with full-blown -- and i'm very grateful. that's the word i'm looking for. >> you've been through some extraordinary times in your life. you had a desperately sad time a couple of years ago when your daughter died. what effect did that tragedy have on you, did you think? >> i don't know. just being in that state of helplessness. there's nothing you can do. you have no control over the situation. i don't know.
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there's no words to describe it. i've been waiting for it to stop bothering me. some people say it never stops. i talk to people in this unique club of ours, nobody wants to be involved, but bereaved parents, and they say it never stops. >> it's the ultimate heartbreak for anyone, isn't it? to be a parent and losing a child. it's so unnatural, isn't it? >> i don't know about that. i'm pretty young in this world. i'm 45. and i don't know. in some centuries people sacrificed their children. you know. but when i was in the hospital, i looked at it from a different way. other people's children were dying and they came to me and said we're sorry, but their kids were dying or dead already anyway. and i said, hey, i don't know why i started thinking that way, but i said, no, your guys' kids are dying too. i'm sorry to hear that. you know, that's what made me realize that there's other
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people here that are suffering here too. you're not the only one. and i just looked at life differently after that. >> your two young children are here today, with kiki. they're in the green room. very sweet young kids. what kind of father are you? because you had such a tough upbringing. you never knew real normal parenting. what kind of parent have you become? >> i'm trying to become more understanding. i should be shot for being called a good parent. i'm just a horrible parent. i've always been a horrible parent. i had horrible parents. and if it wasn't for my wife, none of this will work out. she has patience, she -- >> how does she -- >> i can't even describe, just the whole -- the change in my whole barometer. from the perspective of a family, i'm not talking about we're making a bunch of moiney. we'll probably never have that wealth like we had before. but i'm -- >> do you miss that kind of
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wealth, or is it destructive, that kind of money? >> i just miss having this whole ordeal with my family that i never had before. and when i'm away from them, even now, i miss that. that's just what i'm really into right now, just succeeding with family -- >> how is kiki -- kiki seems key to this. how has she talked to you? how has she transformed you? how has she made you come to peace with yourself? >> i don't know if i'm ever at peace with myself. i mean, you said that. >> how do you feel? do you still feel rages occasionally? like you used to? >> periodically. not like i used to, of course. i may feel sorry for myself, and thank god, i'm not with my -- i'm not where my pretensions could take me. but i think where my pretensions could take me would separate me from what i really sxwarnths that's my family unit. so i don't really strive for some great goals anymore, unless my family's able to come with
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me. >> when you look back at your life, what is the period you're most ashamed of? >> well, i don't know. a lot of them. so i don't know. pretty bad stuff. >> how much of it, do you think, was down to your upbringing? i mean, you were arrested 38 times before you were even 13. >> a great deal of it. a great deal of it. but still, that same, that same emotion that brought all that crudeness and stuff has put the same fight of my success where everybody else likes it too, and i can't separate the two at the time. it fed off one another. >> people wanted you. you were the most ferocious fighter i've ever seen in a ring. and people wanted you to be ferocious. they wanted you to be this
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mythological character, you know, that sort of almost barbaric. they wanted to bay for blood. when you look back on that, is that part of the problem, that you have people who just -- they make money out of you being like that? >> well, of course i'm not that way anymore, but i do undetand there's something about me that people want to see. and if it's fighting, if it's entertaining, whatever, if it's commentating, it's an energy. and i don't understand it. i'm just happy to be a part of it, or whatever it is. people call it luck. napoleon says greatness masters the artistry of luck. i'm not saying i'm great. i'm just saying what a great man said about luck. and that's pretty awesome. >> let's take another break, mike. let's come back and talk about how that luck has put you where you are today. you've got this great one-man show launching in vegas. i want to know all about that.
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mike tyson. >> shh. this is my favorite part coming up right now. ♪ you and me ♪ ♪ i can feel it coming in the air tonight ♪
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♪ but i've been waiting for this moment for all my life ♪ one more time, guys. ♪ oh, lord >> mike tyson, stealing the show in 2009's "the hangover." he's back with me now. mike, i have an 11-year-old son, my youngest boy. all he knows you for is for about two months after he watched "the hangover," every time i spoke to him, he went, "dad, niiice." >> i'm glad he likes that one and not about me eating people's children. >> "the hangover" created a new audience for you. what reaction have you had from that? >> i don't know. listen, i'm just very grateful. todd phillips and everybody, i always had this -- i always had
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good friends and when i was ready to change my life and live a more respectable life in society, they were there. >> your apps are huge selling. >> main event, baby. >> tell me about that. >> rock live, these gentlemen, these are awesome. really high tech geek kind of guys and they talked to me about this app stuff. some of the guys from "the hangover" people were on the app and stuff and i'm just so happy to be part of it. >> do you like this new way of doing business? you don't have to hurt anyone. >> i don't know. i was iron mike tyson then, now i'm not. that guy died off somewhere and now i have to make a new guy. >> you've had lots of rough moments in your life. what's been the greatest moment, outside of marriage and children, what has been the greatest moment? if i could replay a moment you
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could relive, what would it be? >> i don't know. being discovered and allowing myself to be inflicted with confidence. that's the best and worst that ever happened to me. >> he said, you have to fight how you want to lead your life. >> he's saying you have to be careful how you fight your fight, because the way you fight your fights is the way you live your life. >> do you think that this legendary trainer would look at the way mike tyson is today and feel that you worked that out? >> he would find something else wrong. >> he'd be proud of you, wouldn't me, for the way you've rebuilt your life? >> he would be very happy by the time i'm trying to rebuild my relationship with my children and stuff. that was more important, me being an independent person and knowing the right thing to do to gain the respect for my children, just humanity and
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general. he was a really tough guy but deep down he wanted to live the life that he refused to live. >> was he the father figure that you never had? >> no doubt about it. the only father figure i've ever known. >> when you have that kind of respect from shall be like him, that makes all the difference? >> no doubt about it. i was going to become champion. he died a couple months before i became champion. that just accelerated by march and my drive and my desire to accomplish that for him. >> when you became world champion for the first time, what did that moment feel like for you? >> i don't know. it was good for the moment, it was a great moment. i felt sorry for myself because he wasn't there. it was based all on us being there together. and so i don't know, it was a weird feeling. but him leaving me and not being
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around me allowed my confidence to come out more, because if anybody knows -- i didn't talk much when he was around me. i remember one time i was in the locker room, he would stand in the corner with a camera and just listen to me talk and listen to me say the things he taught me to say. >> once he wasn't there anymore -- >> no, he heard me say "baby" to a reporter and when we driving back in the car, he let me have it. who taught you to talk to women like that? who you been around? i know i never taught you to talk like that to a woman. he really ripped me. >> again, the father figure. mike tyson, thank you very much. take care. it was good to see you. this good... colors are more vibrant, words are pin sharp,
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