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tonight, a trayvon martin exclusive. george zimmerman shot and killed the unarmed teen. now his brother, robert, breaks the family silence. the interview you'll see only here. plus, iron mike tyson, born into desperate poverty, but also born to box. at his prime, one punch was all it took. the only one who could stop him was himself. >> i wanted it. >> we watched the collapse unfold in and out of the ring. the bizarre meltdowns, the rape charge, the prison sentence. >> i think i used bad judgment and i had to deal with the circumstances. >> and then, battered by personal tragedy, the redemption. a new man, a new life, stealing the show in "the hangover." mike tyson, raw and ready for the next round, our prime-time exclusive. this is piers morgan tonight. good evening.
tonight, the big story, trayvon martin. the latest developments, a new witness to the shooting comes forward. robert, thank you for joining me tonight. why are you here? why do you want to do this interview? >> i think the tide has turned. there's a lot of loose ends to this story. some of them have to do with the events of that night and an investigation. some of them have moved on to a lot of hate speech, people like the mcclain family having to flee their home. people taking really -- putting emotions ahead of fact and putting our family and other families in danger. >> has your family had death threats? >> oh, yes. yes. >> credible threats? >> yes, they have, yeah. >> against more than one member? against more than george? >> you know, i'm really not at liberty to discuss exactly who was threatened or how they were threatened, but can i tell you that i, myself, have been contacted by law enforcement to -- because there was credible
intelligence that could threaten me. so i look a lot like my brother. people can easily confuse us. and in this misinformation that's been going on, that's been a constant fear of mine, that i would be -- >> nobody has heard from your brother, and therefore, a mythology has built up about him. he is, at the moment, one of the most hated people in america. and we don't know anything about him. tell me about your brother. tell me what you want to say about him that could be his defense, if you like. >> yeah, i agree. it is a mythology that's been built up. and it's not because no one has had anything to say about george, or because his family doesn't love him or support him, or not because he doesn't have supporters. it's been because the people who love and support george, his family, namely, also respect the system, the judicial system, and the legal system that we have in america, and that we don't have, sadly, sometimes the opportunity to comment when there are investigations going forth, to respect the integrity of that actual investigation.
but as far as george goes, he's the neighbor that everybody would want to have. he's the kind of guy that sees somebody struggling with changing a tire and stops to help them or helps older people with their groceries. he goes out of his way to help people. he always has. >> i mean, people watching this saying, sure, maybe he was. maybe that is what he did. then why would somebody like that, why would somebody kind neighbors, want to do the right thing, do the decent thing. why would somebody like that get into some kind of altercation with a young 17-year-old boy, defy instructions he's given from the 911 operator, chase after him, some altercation clearly appears to have happened, and then your brother pulls out a gun and shoots him. why would your brother do that? >> well, you know, taking, from what you said, when you say chasing after and getting into an altercation, there's a lot of
ways that people get into altercations. you know, i believe that if you wanted to reach over this table and assault me badly enough, you could be armed with chapstick and a toothpick and still put me in fear -- reasonable fear of my life. he didn't get into an altercation. people don't just get into altercations. there are aggressors. >> when did you first hear from george after this incident? you, personally? >> me, personally, i heard immediately after the incident. >> within an hour? >> by "immediately," i mean, within 24 hours. >> so the next day? >> would be the closest i'm willing to narrow the window down of exactly when george spoke, yeah, would be within the next 24 hours. >> and what exactly did he tell you about what happened? >> well, some of the details have come out. unfortunately, miss cory's investigation have been compromised. some details have been leaked. that's why we can talk more about a family, now, what george told us was the truth. this fantasy, or this mythology of that he chased a person, is
just absolutely false. he didn't chase anyone. >> on the 911 call, he says that he's seeing somebody suspicious who is running, and he says he's pursuing him, and he's told, please don't do that. >> he says, okay. and anything past that point is conjecture by the media. >> let's listen to this crucial bit of tape. this is from the 911 call. >> he's running. >> which way is he running? >> down towards the entrance of the neighborhood. >> okay. which entrance is that that he's heading towards? >> the back entrance. [ inaudible ] >> are you following him? >> yeah. >> okay. we don't need you to do that. >> so, the dispatcher says, okay. >> right. george says, okay, we don't you to need that. and george does stop following that individual. i believe, actually, i believe he may have actually lost sight of that individual. >> when you say he stopped
following, how do you know that? >> i believe that's what george -- and that's what's in the police reports and that's what's been laked. >> but the police report would be based on what george told the police on that night. there's been no eyewitness to this. it's only george's word, right? >> correct. it is only george's word. there was an eyewitness or two to the actual assault, but to the part you're talking about whether he followed or did not follow, he did not follow nor did he ever catch up to mr. martin. mr. martin was allegedly close to his home. he had found himself so far from the front door, i guess unable to find his way home, if he were really being pursued, i don't know how he couldn't make it home. >> what did george tell you trayvon martin allegedly did to him? >> what has come out that i can talk about today is that trayvon
martin somehow snuck up on him, and according to mr. crump, an attorney, we don't know if this is verifiable information, but he was on the phone with his girlfriend. i don't knowf that's a police source, but i know his attorney holds up the girlfriend as a source and says trayvon told him, no, i'm not running. i'm going to walk real slow. well, trayvon went up to george and said the firsthing to >> one of those things. you know, do you have a problem with me following me? why are you following me, something like that. well, now this person that i lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me. that's what he did. he never got to make that call, because he was attacked by mr. martin. >> and when you say "attacked," what did george tell you trayvon did to him? >> well, i don't know, i believe that at the time, george knew he
had sustained some kind of injury to his face or his nose. i don't know that he knew that it was broken. >> you see, here's the weird thing. how do you explain, as a family, the video that came out last night, with your brother within, you know, not much time after this incident, walking around, unaided, perfectly okay, with no apparent markings to his face. i mean, if you get a broken nose or the kind of head injuries sustainable of having your head smashed on a concrete floor, you're going to have blood everywhere. you're going to have visible injuries. there is nothing. i mean, we're looking at the images now. there's no visible sign of any attack. how do you explain that? >> we're confident the medical records are going to explain all of george's medical history, because how he was treated at the scene and how he was not. to me, his nose looks swollen that video. i'm his brother. >> have you talked to george
about the video since it came out? >> i'm not at liberty to say. that particular piece of information about the video or habit how he thinks his appearance may or may not be, what i think i see is a swollen nose. now, i'm not a physician, you're not a physician. a lot of these injuries, take time, 24 hours, 36 hours to show the bruising. sometimes the bone breaks and the blood is swallowed, like in the case of, for example, if your hand would be on someone's nose and mouth, preventing them from -- >> does he have any injuries now? >> his nose is still broken. >> it's still broken? >> his nose is still broken, yeah. >> a month later, it's still broken? >> his nose. i don't know about the back of his head. his nose is still healing. it's not healed. he's not, um -- he has very severe emotional injuries. he has very -- he's been diagnosed with posttraumatic stress disorder. he was not right from the moment it happened. he didn't call his family and express anything but, you know, sadness. it was just a darkness. he had changed. he wasn't the same. he would never be the same. he was very disappointed that
none of the neighbors had come out and helped with the whole situation, potentially could have been avoided by just someone coming out and saying, hey, what's going on out there, or -- >> let me ask you a difficult question. and robert, you're not on trial for anything. you're not the accused. but you are the brother of george. if we reverse this situation and it was your brother who had been gunned down in exactly the same set of circumstances, and the worst that had happened, as far as his behavior, was that he had been followed and he'd got into an altercation and he was unarmed, he had a bag of skittles on him, and a guy who was much older, who followed him in the street, pulled out a gun and shot him dead, would you not, at the very least, if you're honest and candid about this, you would you not have expected that person to at least be arrested, to at least perhaps some kind of trial where the full evidence could come out?
>> well, you know, i take a pause to that whole, you know, conjecture, again, of pull odd out a gun and shot him. that's absolutely not fact. >> that's not what happened, then? >> that's not what happened. >> but he did pull out a gun and shoot him, right? >> well, he stopped someone from disarming him and shooting him. he didn't pull out a gun and shoot him. george showed tremendous restraint -- >> but he had the gun on him, right? >> he had a permit to carry that gun -- >> where was the gun? >> the gun, i believe, was tucked inside his pant waist -- >> right. >> in a waist holster. >> so he has pulled it out and he has fired it? >> well, he has taken control of his firearm, he prevented his firearm from being taken from him and used against him. and that's called saving your life. >> so you believe, as a family -- is this what george told you the next day? that trayvon was trying to grab his gun to use against him? >> my father also is on record yesterday night saying that.
and again, what trayvon said was, either to the effect of, i believe, this is going to be easy, you die tonight or you have a piece, you die tonight. and then attempted to disarm him. so when you have say "have a bag of skittles and an iced tea," nobody just stood there with a bag of skittles and iced tea. you return force with force when somebody assaults you. george was out of breath, he was barely conscious, the last thing he remembers doing was moving his head from the concrete to the grass, so if he was banged one more time he wouldn't be wearing diapers for the rest of his life and being spoon fed with his brother, and there would have been george dead if he had not acted desis instantaneously. >> people say, his family is protect him. he may have well invented this whole story. he may have thought, the only way i can get out of this is wruz this stand your ground law, under florida law, and invent
this whole story. he may have inflicted the injuries to himself. nobody actually knows. >> the eyewitness that was there actually saw -- i don't think his face has been revealed. i know that the police have his testimony. i know that media in florida have gone to his house and he doesn't want to open the door, but he did, apparently, see the whole thing from the first blow. >> hold that thought, robert, we'll come back after a short break and discuss this more. >> thanks. ya know, your rates and fees aren't exactly competitive. who do you think i am, quicken loans? [ spokesman ] when you refinance your mortgage with quicken loans, you'll find that our rates and fees are extremely competitive. because the last thing you want is to spend too much on your mortgage. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ♪ on december 21st,
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do you need police, fire, or medical? >> maybe both. i'm not sure. there's just someone screaming outside. [ screams ] >> so you think he's yelling "help"? >> yes. >> okay, what is your -- >> there's gunshots. >> you just heard gunshots? >> yes. >> how many? >> just one. >> the chilling 911 call is the shooting of trayvon martin was taking place. back with me now is robert zimmerman. his brother, george, killed trayvon martin. who was screaming there, robert? >> that's my brother. >> how can you be so sure? because trayvon's family are equally adamant it is their boy. >> you know, that's a very sensitive thing to talk about. i don't blame them for being as equally adamant, i don't blame anybody whose family member, they believe or perceive that they hear on the tape for as being as equally adamant. i would expect nothing less, actually.
i know that that's george. i know that one of the -- the saddest thing thes for him in this whole thing is that despite those screams, no one came to his aid. those screams could have avoided, you know, what eventually george had to do to defend his life, if someone had, you know, heard them, come out, shown a line ght on the situation, said, get out of here, what are you guys doing? because of that pain he felt in particular, that he was screaming out so many times, i know that that's his voice. it sounds just like my voice. i mean, he's my brother. that's what i sound like if i yell. but, you know, there are hopefully technological means to sort all that out. >> the other technological means that are being deployed on tape are the reference that your brother makes under his breath, which appears to be the racial
term that the people have deduced it was. i'm not going to repeat it now. >>ive heard it, yes. >> cnn got that slowed down, replayed it ten times. i heard it. i'm pretty sure what i heard. i'm pretty sure it was a racial slur. what else could it have been? >> it could have been anything. if we slowed -- >> you know your brother, and you look like him, you sound like him. >> right. he speaks two languages fluently. >> what do you think he's saying? >> that part -- that tape, it's my understanding, is not actually in the original 911 tapes. it's after media outlets have slowed down, buffed up, redone, retouched, reconditioned -- >> but it exists. >> well, it does not exist after it exists. it is a reconditioned piece of audio to satisfy whatever you want anybody to hear in that tape. i don't -- >> well, i don't think it is. i mean, i think that, to be factual, that part of the tape
is under his breath. the police missed it first time around. they've accepted that. the question becomes, what is your brother saying? as i say, when i heard it, i believe i heard a racial slur. what do you think you heard? >> right, i believe -- >> or what do you think those two words were? >> again, i just don't believe that, first of all, that they're words. i don't think that when someone is running and making, you know, utterances, not necessarily words, but utterances from strain under their breath, you can take any of that -- >> but what do you believe he was saying? >> i have no idea that he was even saying anything. that's what i'm trying to say. >> well, he clearly is saying something. he's clearly saying two words. >> i don't know that that's the case, piers. >> the reason that i'm asking, if he's saying what i and many others believe him to be saying, it adds a racial element to this. it adds fuel to the fire that this was a case of racial
profiling, that your brother saw a young black boy in a hoodie and decided he had to deal with him. >> right. well, that whole hoodie thing, that's another -- a hoodie is a description. you know, you're a man wearing a black suit and a red tie. that doesn't mean that if you commit a crime, we should all go out and march in black suits and red ties. that was just simply how someone was described. that's not what made him -- >> have you ever heard your brother utter a racist remark about anybody? >> no. and certainly that word is not even in his vocabulary. of all words to say this was a racial slur, i'm a little bit older, you know, i was kind of familiar with it, that it was used in literature, you know, things like that, and that it was a word much more prevalent before. you know, something kind of you're exposed to in school going up, reading, but -- >> let me ask you this. why was your brother walking around this neighborhood anyway? he didn't have his neighborhood watch stuff on. nothing to identify him, as any kind of neighborhood watch operative or security guy.
so if you're trayvon martin, 17 years old, you're a boy. you're going to your father's girlfriend's house. you've been to a store. you've bought some skittles. and there's this big guy who is following you, it's scary, isn't it? i mean, you can't blame trayvon martin for wondering what the hell this guy's doing or who he is? >> well, you know, sadly, even your statements now are just a product of conjecture. saying that he was patrolling a neighborhood is absolutely false. he was not patrolling the neighborhood. he was going to a store, target. there was someone in the rain. according to even mr. crump, the family's attorney, taking shelter, what he calls taking shelter, in other buildings. so george just saw simply, someone, who everyone lives in florida knows when it rains, it pours. people take shelter in their home or they see that it's raining and they wait ten minutes and then they go out. george saw mr. martin in
suspicious in context of what has been happening in his community, not just -- >> george found him suspicious. i mean, trayvon martin would argue he wasn't being suspicious at all. he was just walking to a house. >> right. and the police are the people who, you know, would have made that determination ultimately. >> how do you feel, personally, that your brother has killed somebody in these circumstances? >> no matter what, you know, with i try to think of what if this were me? what if this were someone who had broken into my home and i had to defend myself or some other situation, where self-defense fits the mold more, and it's easy, we can understand, oh, yeah, that's clearly self-defense, because there's no room for conjecture. this is my home, you broke in, and that happened. i've tried to think about it in terms of, what if this were me. i would at least want to feel supported by my family. and i would definitely, definitely respect the process that we have in this country. >> would it be easier for everybody, particularly your brother, if he was now arrested and there was a proper investigation that started from
that point? do you believe that it was actually, with hindsight, a mistake for the police to effectively conclude on the night, he had no case to answer? >> yeah, absolutely not. investigations in our country are not effectively started once people are arrested. nor are people arrested simply because another group demands their arrest. there is either probable cause or there is not probable cause to arrest someone. >> has george ever lied to you? >> not to my knowledge, no. >> he's always been completely, 100% honest? >> he would be the more honest of the two. the most honest brother. he's very straight and narrow. and you know, very helpful guy. very concerned with his neighbor and the truth. >> very quickly, finally, what would you say to the family of trayvon martin? to his mother in particular? >> well, to his mother, you know, personally, myself, i can't speak for george, this is a tragedy. her son was lost. i feel very badly about that.
and i want, in the end, not for her son's memory to be seen as how we degraded our system and turned it into mob rule and went into a hate speech, you know, carnival of hatred and let's go get him and tweeting addresses. i want the same mrs. mar the u.n. yesterday who saw humanity in my brother know that i can see humanity too in trayvon. i understand this is a story about human beings and i think that was a touching thing that she said last night. and you know, ultimately, we all wish that this was a different situation. >> robert zimmerman, thank you very much for coming in today. >> thank you, pierce. thanks for having me. >> i appreciate that your family is also going through a very pretty hellish time. and i appreciate you sticking up for your brother. next, mike tyson.
now he's fought his way back from the dark side, but he's still the outspoken and unpredictable iron micro ke and he joins me now. >> how you doing, piers? >> what did you make of the interview i just had with george zimmerman's brother? >> i don't know. i wasn't there. i don't know what happened. i have a good opinion what happened, like everyone else. i don't know. he doesn't look like a seasoned enough liar to talk to you. >> what do you think happened? from everything you've seen and read? >> i don't know what happened. >> do you believe that any kind of altercation, if trayvon was unarmed, justifies somebody shooting him? >> well, i jus i can only by what i saw on television. the police told him to stop following him. he should have took that order from a superior and stopped following him. and once he stopped following,
the young kid continues to go. what happened after that order was denied? i don't know. >> do you believe, as many do in the black community, that young black teenagers in hoodies get profiled, get chosen, targeted for this kind of thing? do you believe that? >> it doesn't matter what i believe or not. the history of the nation proves that -- when i say means nothing. we have to go by the history of particular incidents like this. and that's the proof. this is just the television, of course, saying that, how does a young kid know that he had a gun, to go for the gun? >> that's a very good point. how did he know that he had a gun? >> to go for it. >> unless he saw it. >> unless he saw it, yeah. unless he was trying to do for it -- i don't know, unless he's defending himself.
>> what do you think -- >> i want to believe that mr. zimmerman did something wrong and illegal, but i wasn't there. >> do you think he should have been arrested on the night? do you think it's a strange law in america, in modern america, that somebody can stand their ground in the street, in these circumstances, having defied an instruction from the 911 operator, do you think that that's acceptable? is this a law that should exist? >> i don't know. i don't think it should, but then again, i'm, i'm not a state representative. i don't make these laws. i don't know the pretense of these laws. and the only thing i could do is be a citizen of america and i guess, base my opinion. and this is really bad stuff. it makes -- the whole world is watching us, the watching the judicial system.
and just from the world looking in, and being objective, we have -- man, we have laws that are a disgrace to a nation of savages. from the world looking in, from the civilized world looking in. and, i don't know. you gave me that format, can you use that word, african-american, black people. i'm just talking. we're so accustomed with these laws, with these overt laws, we're very accustomed to them. >> do you think america, mike, has become more or less racist since barack obama, an african-american, became president? >> there's a great possibility, yes. >> that it's become worse? >> 100%, yes. that's how these groups surface, these red -- these tea partyers and everything. listen, it's new stuff. being a black man, having the image of the strongest man on
the planet, the biggest man in the world, from a political point -- from a political standpoint, you can send the strongest army in the world and in the country and stuff, and it must be pretty tough to take in when you -- i don't know. it's just the way this country -- i believe this is the best country in the world. we have problems we have to iron out -- >> how do you think barack obama's doing as president? >> i don't know. i live in a barack obama household. from ethnicity, i think that's beautiful seeing a black president, for my children to see a black president, but i'm just -- regardless if he's president or not, i have to be the one in my family, if he's president or if he's not president, i'm going to be the one paying the bills and working. >> now that your life has changed, and you have to pay bills, and you have to think about money and all those
things, very different to when you had $500 million and so on, you're in that position and you can relate probably much better to people on the street, going through hardship, not having jobs and so on, do you think america is coming out of the bad times or do you think that it's still pretty set in the bad times? >> i don't know. but whatever it is, we're going to make it. we're going to get out of it. whatever it is. this is just what life is all about. the good times and hard times. this is just what it is. hard times fall upon everybody, every nation, and if you continue to live, you'll be able to see the good times, i guess. >> let's take a short break. i want to come back and talk to you about your extraordinary comeback. because you went to hell and back. most of it, i'm sure you would admit, probably down to you. some of it down to circumstance. i'm going to get your feelings about what it's like for you now to be mike tyson today. >> i want to do that too.
make them -- that's going to make them question more. don't back them off and let them recoup, smash them to oblivion. >> mike tyson in prison in 1994, serving a sentence for rape. when you see, that mike, do you recognize that mike tyson? because you seem a very different man today. >> well, i don't know, that guy's pretty deep. you know, i don't know. he's pretty intense, and that's just who i was for that time. >> do you feel that you've changed? when i read your twitter feed, you're a big tweeter, you seem a much calmer man today than you were then. >> well, i don't know if i am. maybe after all that fight, some red flags seem more relieved when they went up. i'm just happy hanging out with my wife. that's the main focal point of my wife, my life and my children. >> your wife's an extraordinary woman, kiki, i've had the pleasure of meeting her. >> he's extra extraordinary. >> how has she changed you? >> you can't even fathom the
pays. i'm just a human being now. when i was with my wife, i was a -- man, i was od'ing once a week, man, i was a neanderthal. i can't even imagine how this even happened, i have a respectable family and we travel together and i just, man, i have some convicts that i don't believe i'm deserving. and i'm very grateful. that's the word i'm looking for. >> you've been through some extraordinary times in your life. you had a desperately sad time a couple of years ago when your daughter died. what effect did that tragedy have on you, did you think? >> i don't know. just being in that state of helplessness, to have no control over the situation.
i don't know, there's no words to describe it. i've been waiting for it to stop bothering, but some people say it never stops. i talk to people in this unique club of ours, nobody wants to be involved, but bereaved parents, they say it never stops. >> it's the ultimate heartbreak for anyone, isn't it? to be a parent and losing a child, it's so unnatural, isn't it? >> i don't know about that. i'm pretty young in this world, i'm 45, and in some centuries, people sacrificed their children. but when i was in the hospital, i looked at it from a different way. other people's children were dying and they came to me and said, we're sorry, but their kids are dying or dead already. and i said, hey, i don't know why i started thinking that way, but i said, no, your guys kids are dying too. i'm sorry to hear that. you know, that's what made me realize that there's other people that are suffering here too. you're not the only one.
and i just looked at life differently after that. >> your two young children are here today, with kiki. they're in the green room. very sweet, young kids. what kind of father are you? because you had such a tough upbringing. you never knew real normal parenting. what kind of parent have you become? >> i'm trying to become more understanding. i should be shot for being called a good parent. i'm a horrible parent. i've always been a horrible parent. i had horrible parents. and if it wasn't for my wife, none of this will work out. i can't even describe, just the whole -- the change in my whole barometer. from the perspective of a family, i'm not saying we're making a bunch of money -- we'll probably never have the wealth that we had before. >> do you miss that kind of wealth, or is it destructive, that kind of money?
>> i just miss having this whole um ordeal with my family that i never had before. and when i'm away from them, even now, i miss that. >> how is kiki -- kiki seems key to this. how has she talked to you? how has she transformed you? how has she made you come to peace with yourself? >> i don't know if i'm ever at peace with myself. i mean, you said that. >> how do you feel? do you still feel rages, occasionally? like you used to? >> periodically. not like i used to, of course. i may feel sorry for myself, and thank god, i'm not with my potentials could take me. but what i really want is my family unit. so i don't really strive for some great goals anymore, unless my family's able to come with
me. >> when you look back at your life, what is the period you're most ashamed of? >> well, i don't know. a lot of them. so i don't know. pretty bad stuff. >> how much of it, do you think, was down to your upbringing? i mean, you were arrested 38 times before you were even 13. >> a great deal of it. a great deal of it. but, still, that same, that same emotion, that crudeness and stuff is the same fight of my success, and i can't separate the two at the time. they fed off one another. >> people wanted you. you were the most ferocious fighter i've ever seen in a ring. and people wanted you to be ferocious. they wanted you to be this mythological character, you
know, that sort of almost barbaric. they wanted to bay for blood. when you look back on that, is that part of the problem, that you have people who just, they make money out of you being like that? >> well, of course i'm not that way anymore, but i do understand there's something about me that people want to see. and if it's fighting, if it's entertaining, whatever, it's the energy. and i don't understand it. i'm just happy to be a part of it, or whatever it is. people call it luck. napoleon says greatest masters the artistry of luck. i'm not saying i'm great, i'm just saying what a great man said about luck. and that's pretty awesome. >> let's take another break, mike, let's come back and talk about how that luck has put you where you are today. you've got that great one-man show launching in vegas. i want to know all about that. mike tyson, undisputed truth.
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for all my life one more time, guys. >> mike tyson stealing the show in 2009's "the hangover." my youngest boy. >> bernie. >> all he knows you for is for about -- about two months after he watched "the hangover", every time i spoke to him he said for two months, nice. >> i'm glad he liked that one. >> i mean, how have you found your reinvention? it's been an extraordinary thing. it created a whole new audience for you. what's your reaction to that? >> listen, i'm just very grateful. i'm grateful. everybody, i guess -- i wasn't ready for -- i always had good friends. whenever i was ready to change
my life and live a respectable life in society they were there. >> your acts are selling. >> main event, baby. >> you do with these rock live. tell me about that. >> rock live, awesome, a really high-tech geek kind of guy and they talk to me about this app stuff. some of the guys from "the hangover", i thought it would be a good thing. i'm so happy to be a part of it. >> do you like that? the new way of getting business. you don't have to hurt anyone. >> i don't know. i just -- i was mike tyson then. now i'm not. that guy died off somewhere. now i have to make a new guy. >> you have had lots of rough moments in your life. what's been the greatest moment outside of marriage and children? what's been the greatest moment? if i could replay a moment for you now, you could relive, what would it be?
>> i don't know. being discovered and allowing -- and inflicting me with confidence. that's the best and worst thing that happened to me. >> you said, you have to fight how you want to lead your life. dictate how you lead your life. >> you have to be careful how you fight your fight because the way you fight your fight is the way you live life. >> do you think the customary trainer, do you think he would look at the way that mike tyson is today and feel that you finally worked that out? >> no, he find something else wrong. >> he'd be proud of you, wouldn't he, for the way you have rebuilt your life? >> he'd be very happy with the way i'm trying to rebuild my relationship with my children and stuff. you know, that was more important. me being an independent person and knowing the right thing to do, to gain the respect from my children and humanity in general and stuff. he was a tough guy, but deep down in the heart he wanted to
live the life that he refused to live. >> was he the father figure that you never really had? >> no doubt about it. the only father figure i had ever known. >> when you have that kind of respect from somebody like him, it makes all the difference, doesn't it? >> no doubt about it. i was on a death mission, i was going to become the champion. a couple of months a year before i became the champion, and that's just accelerated my march and my drive and my desire to accomplish that. >> when you became world champion for the first time, what did that moment feel like for you? >> i don't know. it was good for the moment. it was a great moment. i felt sorry for myself because he wasn't there. because i was the based on us being there together. and so i don't know. it was a weird feeling. but leaving me and not being around me, it allowed my confidence to come out more.
i didn't talk much when he was around me. i remember one time i was in the -- i was in the locker room. one of my little fights, and he's standing in the corner with a camera. and, well, listen to me talk. he'd listen to me say the things he taught me to say. and we went over it and -- >> once he wasn't there anymore -- >> he heard me say baby by a reporter and in the car, he's letting me have it. who taught you to talk to women like that? who have you been around? i know i never taught you to talk like that to a woman. >> again, the father figure and respect. >> yeah. [ nurse ] i'm a hospice nurse.
britta olsen is my patient. i spend long hours with her checking her heart rate, administering her medication, and just making her comfortable. one night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, "when a person dies," she said, "someone must open the window so the soul can depart." i smiled and squeezed her hand. "not tonight, britta.
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i'm jake wood and i want to help veterans transition into civilian life. we started as a disaster relief organization and realized we should help the veteran community, as well. we bring them together to be part of a team. they are almost recharged. >> when you get out, you have that feeling of what are you really doing that's important in the world? team river con has provided a great opportunity to help people out in need. >> you need to put your foot back as far as you can. >> most of the work we do internationally is emergency medical triage clinics. we have gone to chile, sudaning pakistan. here at home, we've done debris clearing operation, search and rescue. we have about 1400 volunteers and about 80% of them are military veterans. helping other people is part of the healing process. >> i can't thank you all enough. there's no limit to what veterans can do. we have the ability to help and want to serve. i think it's a win-win situatio