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the allegations that have been made in the press are confirmed, then of course i'll be angry. >> i talked to a cia operative that said obama could be in danger. and meredith vieira ways in on working moms, on this picture of hillary clinton, and on the morning wars. >> i think it's the best broadcast on the air and always will. >> and the story of a 9/11 mystery woman. >> she left plenty of pain in her wake. and he's talking to me. hollywood legend robert de niro on how the country's changed since 9/11 and keeping us great. >> it's taking us off the main track which is to get the country together. plus only in america. a tale of two great but very different lives. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening.
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our big story tonight the secret service agent. 11 agents and five members of the military are under allegations of misconduct after president obama arrived for the summit of americas. the missing curfew, heavy drinking, and bringing prostitutes to a hotel in colombia. now have their clearances revoked. a lot of red faces in the government for this one. this was the joint chief today. >> nobody's talking about what went on in colombia other than this incident. to that extent we let him down. >> much more on the scandal in a moment. also tonight meredith vieira on the woman behind 9/11's lie. and robert de niro on keeping america great. >> i'm very, very lucky in my life. i'm just lucky. period. the older i get, the more i
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realize that. i'm very lucky. >> we begin tonight with our big story. the secret service scandal. joining me now a man who said this is a big deal. bob bear and presidential historian douglas brinkly. some say this is just boys being boys. you take it more seriously. explain to me why. >> well, piers, i don't have any problem with the morality of it. what i do is the security of protecting the president. one of these suites -- the secret service stay in a hotel. they keep the call signs, their encrypted radios, their routes that the president is going to travel. if i was an assassin, that's where i would want to be. assassination these days, it all depends on intelligence. you've got to predict movements. these guys would have it there. this is what i think is the big concern of the secret service.
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what had been compromised. >> we believe now that there were 11 secret service personnel involved and 11 prostitutes and maybe up to five more military personnel. this is a pretty big scandal, isn't it, douglas brinkley? >> well, yes it is. and it makes everybody wonder what's going on in the secret service. so they're going to have to investigate themselves. they clearly -- these 11 officers, agents, clearly let president obama down. and, you know, it's one thing if you have an isolated incident. here's one person going to a prostitute. but the fact they're bringing this many amount of women back into the staff hotel where the white house staff was going to be staying just days before the president's visit, it's outrageous. and i think it's a story that we've got to fix. because secret service has been like our special forces. they've been beloved. they are beloved. they do such great work.
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but this is going to lose a lot of confidence that the american public had in them. >> let's watch a clip of president obama and what he said about this. >> if it turns out that some of the allegations that have been made in the press are confirmed, then of course i'll be angry. because my attitude with respect to the secret service personnel is no different than what i expect out of my delegation that's sitting here. we're representing the people of the united states. >> bob baer one of the issues people are raising is the secret service now handled under homeland security rather than the treasury department than before. does that make much difference? >> it's not going to make -- no, it's not going to make a whole lot of difference. the secret service has high standards. i worked with them for many, many years.
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they're very, very good. this is an enormous lapse in its discipline that is established inside the secret service. and there are no ifs and buts about it. this president in particular is the target of all sorts of people in the war on terror and the rest of it. lapses like this are truly unforgivable. i used to be a federal employee. the secret service on a mission protecting the president is honor bound to do 24 hours a day. look, it's easy to kill a president. i mean, their worst nightmare is going back to the roots that these girls could have got ahold of with a belly charge. they pull it under the road. ammonium nitrate explosives and there's no way to protect it. the only way to protect it is by unpredictability of the president's movement and they compromised this. >> doug brinkley, should they be
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fired, do you think, these personnel? is it that serious? >> well, we have to keep the word allegations out there right now. we need to do an investigation first. some heads are going to have to roll on this. because as you just heard, people have often looked at the secret service as being somewhat of super men. out of a book the way the secret service jumped on to protect johnson during the kennedy assassination. or the job they did when reagan got shot and they rushed him to the hospital and protected him. so we ask a lot of these secret service agents. but i think when it did become part of homeland security, a lot of the best officers went for higher pay at tsa. started getting a brain drain from the secret service. and like any bureaucracy, it's not being run properly now. so at the end of the line if it turns out that this is not an isolated incident and it's hard to believe it's isolated when 11
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people are gauged in prostitution like this, other events probably happen other places. then i think the director might have to go. >> yeah, i mean bob baer, it does seem unlikely this is the first time this happened. it was the first day they got there and within hours they got prostitutes back in their rooms. suggests this is not the first time. if it's proven this has been going on before, then senior heads should roll, shouldn't they? it cuts right no the heart of the american presidential detail. >> yeah. douglas is right about this. this is a huge decline in the secret service. when i worked with them, they didn't drink at night. they didn't go out. they simply worked. they manned the stations. and it's become laxed like this. in addition it's the military people. who are those? the national security agency? people handing in the codes for the. t? i don't know. i'd like to know. if that's been compromised, who knows what we're talking about.
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you just cannot let these things go. >> and also, bob, finally. i would imagine this is a proven methodology by groups who want to get into the secret service. using women, using prostitutes. we don't actually know yet the full facts of this case. it could be these prostitutes were working for more mendacious organizations. >> oh, absolutely. that's precisely the way i would get into a presidential detail. use hookers, use women. send them in as trojan horses. get inside. colombia has a lot of nefarious groups down there. mafia, mexican cartels. any number of people would like to kill american presidents. they are well plugged into prostitutes. >> bob baer, doug brinkley. thank you very much. now to turn to the other big
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story in washington. the raging controversy of working moms. ann romney. now a woman who knows about that. meredith vieira. >> why is it every time i'm on your show you're never here? why is that? >> you know what it is? i don't trust myself in your physical presence. >> that is such a bunch of bull. why is it? >> i'm serious. for people like me who have woken up to you for years and years and not having you in my bedroom every morning is agony. i don't trust myself. >> okay. whatever. >> should we move off this uncomfortable subject? >> yes. you're embarrassing me. >> let's move to working mothers. i reckon you have a good view of this. you've been somebody who's been a hard working mom and tv host. which is harder? >> i think probably raising your children is the hardest thing
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you can do and the most rewarding. obviously. because you're shaping lives. doing television is -- it is what it is. and then it's gone. your kids, they never really go away. >> what did you make of the row with ann romney? it was a strange battle ground for someone to pick? >> i'm going to stick up for hilary here. i believe -- i think she said something she probably regretted after it was out of her mouth. i mean, it was not a smart thing to say. i don't think she thought it through. then it caused this huge sensation. then she apologized. i think that's enough. i think because we're in the 24 hour news cycle that we need things to talk about. and so we blow everything out of proportion. i think this is a good case of that. i don't think she honestly believes that mrs. romney has never worked a day in her life. i don't think that's what she meant.
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>> the other thing i thought was interesting today. the front page of "the new york post" had a photo of hillary clinton drinking a beer in colombia. as if this was the most offensive thing she could do. when you see something like that, what do you make of it? >> i'm surprised she's not drunk every day. that job is so demanding. i could never do that job she has to do. if she occasionally has a beer, who cares? she's done a brilliant job as secretary of state. my hat off to her. >> do you think america's ready for its first female president? >> yes, i do, piers. i think we were ready last time. absolutely. i don't think it was that she was a female. i think that people decided that barack obama was the one they wanted. the democrats decided they wanted him carrying the banner forward. and they made the right choice because he is the president of the united states. it's like saying were we ready four years ago for the for the
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first african-american president? absolutely. i think hillary clinton will run in 2016 and would have a chance of winning because her track record is superb. >> i think you have a point. i want o take a break now. when we get back, we'll cut to the quick. to talk about the "today" losing its crown against gma. >> i'm leaving. >> and about matt lauer's $25 million payday. how sick were you when you heard that? [ male announcer ] if you believe the mayan calendar, on december 21st polar shifts will reverse the earth's gravitational pull and hurtle us all into space. which would render retirement planning unnecessary. but say the sun rises on december 22nd, and you still need to retire.
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and barbara was talking about -- i don't know. you didn't see the hot topics on "the view" today but she was talking about rough sex and joy commented she looked like a biker chick. i couldn't resist. i'm a troublemaker. you know that. >> talking of whipping, let's turn to your old whipping boy. matt lauer. where were you the moment you heard he signed a deal that's worth at least -- and i suspect a lot more -- i think you heard muster under your breath it's more. >> oh, please. yes. >> in a jealous way. at least $25 million a year for two years. at least $50 million. it may even be like $75 million. where were you when you first heard of the lauer deal? >> i was heading toward the bathroom and i proceeded to vomit after i heard that in you remember. no, i was actually on cape cod. i'm not surprised. he deserves every penny of it. i joke all the time that i propped him up for five years.
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but matt's really a talented broadcaster. you know that. and he's a lot of the reason why the "today" show does as well as it does. it's an amazing staff. everybody contributes. but matt is the guy out front and has been for many years. hey, that show is worth a lot of money. and, you know, pay him what they think he deserves. more power to him. he won't share a penny of it, however. i want you to know that. none. >> no. i agree with that. although he is talented but he is tight. >> very. >> you leave the "today" show and for the first time in 16 years today it's revealed that "gma" overtook it for the last week. are you doing the same math i am? you hoping they're going to come now with a big $25 million deal for you? reunite the dream team? >> no. i know they're not going to. and, you know, i mean congratulations to "gma." they did win the week from what i understand.
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good for them. there's a lot of pressure. when i was there there was a lot of pressure. you internalize it. it was nothing that came from above. but when you know it's number one week after week, year after year, you feel that pressure every day to keep those numbers up. and there's something, i think, liberating about finally having the streak broken. it had to break at some point. "gma" was in number one before we became the number one morning show. so things operate in cycles. i think it's also good to have healthy competition. it gets everybody a little more excited. and, you know, thinking a bit more about what they're putting on the show every day. all in all it's not a bad thing for us. my home is "today" and i think it's the best morning broadcast on the air and always will. >> do you feel a bit -- >> however, for $30 million i would come back. but it's not going to happen. maybe. all in all it's not a bad thing for us. my home is "today" and i think it's the best morning broadcast on the air and always will. >> do you feel a bit -- >> however, for $30 million i would come back. but it's not going to happen. maybe. >> do you feel a bit sorry for ann curry?
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because i love ann. i think she's a terrific broadcaster. an incredibly warm lovely person. she's getting all this bitchy flack. >> i hope she has enough perspective to ignore it. it comes with the territory. and ann's great. she's an unbelievable journalist. beyond that, she's one of the loveliest people you'll ever meet as you know. a true class act. >> she really is. >> if the numbers are going up and down, it's not ann. these things happen. you know, i believe in her very strongly. i'm sure the team does as well. she's phenomenal. you just can't read into this stuff and can't look at it. because nobody wants to write you're great. they want to write that you're bad. they love to see people fall. >> talking to people who have fallen and risen from the embers, we saw that sarah palin popped up on the "today" show a couple weeks ago. many people think she's the new meredith vieira. how do you feel about that comparison? >> what? who said that?
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you're nothing but a troublemaker. you're part of the problem. now that we've isolated that. >> i'm planting that seed in your head. >> i read papers, okay? i read papers. you know what -- >> what did you think of the controversy of having somebody like sarah palin or rather divisive politician fake to be a "today" show host? >> i think everybody was grunting up the week on both sides. it was all about the ratings game and getting a buzz going. she got a buzz going. so if that's what's it's all about, it was effective. from everything i heard -- i didn't meet her. i was on monday of that week. from what i heard she was lovely and easy to work with. you know, piers, it's television. ultimately it's television. i can't take it that seriously. >> you don't think television is the most serious thing in the world? >> no, i don't.
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i actually don't. i think there are other things in the world more important. >> well, there are. we'll come back after the break. you've done a documentary -- >> actually that's on television. >> it is on television. so we should take this seriously presumably? >> yes. >> let's discuss it after the break. it's a fascinating program. sarah... will you marry me? i think we should see other people.
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we had met outside the world trade center. he stole my cab. so every year i bring a new york city cab with me and i put it in the reflection pool. so he remembers that. >> from a documentary the woman who wasn't there which airs tomorrow on investigation discovery. meredith vieira is the executive producer. she's with me now. fascinating story. this woman tania head basically invents a whole story about being a survivor of the 9/11 disaster, lost her fiance, suffered terrible injuries. then she becomes this great kind of standard in this 9/11 survivors and becomes a figure head. extraordinaily president of the victims support. it turns out the whole thing is a figment of her imagination.
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when you saw this story, what gave you the desire to make a film about it? >> well, angela diguuliomo who is the producer he brought a demo reel to show us what he was working on. we looked at it and we were blown away. i didn't remember the story. this broke in "the new york times" in 2007. it was on a friday. so by monday, the news cycle changed and people were talking about other things. but i didn't remember tania head. i didn't remember the survivors network and her role in it. the fact she was a fraud. she had betrayed all these people. as i said, i was truly blown away. it was like this psychological thriller set against the backdrop of 9/11 and we just wanted to be involved in this project. >> turned out that she herself had been fleeing a kind of corruption scandal in spain where she came from. and this was a sort of get out
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for her. reinvention. changed her name, come up with something that maked her look better. it's stuff out of a weird thriller, isn't it? >> yeah. we'll never know why she did what she did. i can play armchair psychiatrist, but i'm not going to do that. but you're right. she was in barcelona at the time of the attacks. and she -- you know, she came here and made herself available to other survivors in 2003. the end of 2003. so we assumed she was watching the message boards and really trying to craft her story. even the fiance she said in the north tower, that man dave. there was a dave there. so she had done a lot of research. whether she wanted to -- you know, one of the survivors said something interesting. she said after 9/11 a lot of people wanted to be part of that experience because it so affected the american psyche. so was that part of the reason why she did it? she always loved america as a little kid growing up in spain. was that it? did she have a mental illness?
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something crazy for her to do this. but she was brilliant. and she never took a penny. you know, she didn't get anything for doing this. in fact, she gave the survivors a real voice. she kind of put them on the map. that's why so many of them you'll see in the documentary have these mixed feelings. on the one hand she betrayed them. on the other hand she gave them a voice. and there is an element of forgiveness in this documentary as well. something i left being so angry at her. and amazed at the capability for other people to forgive. even something as heinous as this. >> quite extraordinary. let's watch another clip from the film. >> i remember very well the pain hitting the wall. the marble wall. and then i remember the warmth from the explosion. and then i passed out. >> i mean, i sort of agree with you in she wasn't making financial gain from this.
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and i can see why some of the survivors found real comfort from her. and therefore do that this conflict of emotion now. because in the end, if she was a comfort to them, how much does it really matter that she actually invented her own story? >> well, it does in the sense yes she was a comfort but that was a terrible betrailer. one of the survivors, linda, who was her best friend. she had linda in flooding exercises where she would have to relive. tania head was never in the building. she would have to relive that day and linda had to be by her side. that just added to linda's anxiety. linda was dealing with her own issues being a survivor. it totally messed with her head. gave her terrible nightmares. to the point her therapist said you can't be part of this experience anywhere. she said to tania i can't for my own health. tania said you're a terrible friend, you've betrayed me.
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what a terrible thing to do to somebody who's trying to heal themselves. she left plenty of pain in her wake for sure. but as we said, she also -- she's the one who went to angelo. she wanted the survivors story told. she convinced him to do the interviews. he said only if i interview you. in the course of it, then the new york times story starts to percolate. when she tried to get the tapes back, angelo said no. he said i'm going to report the story. it had a bigger story than he ever realized. >> it was a fascinating, gripping documentary to watch. really found it mesmerizing in parts. takes a bit of an emotional roller coaster. you aren't quite sure how they should respond. airs tomorrow night on investigation discovery. good luck with that.
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your production company called m.v.p., very modest. and i hear of movies and broadway. no stopping you? >> i plan to take over. in fact, your show is the next thing to take over. and you're out. because you're never here. we're very lucky to have a movie on pay per view now and itunes. we're proud of that. we also have a one man show around the country. life in a marital institution. >> it was great having you. i would love if you would guest host my show one time. you've been avoiding my clutches for this. you'd be terrific. >> you're so good. but we'll talk as we say. >> perfectly understanding. -- before elvis in vegas. >> oh, please. >> i've always wanted to say this. i've got to leave you, i've got robert de niro waiting?
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>> oh, really? leave him longer. >> meredith vieira, always great to have you. when we come back, i really have got the one and only robert de niro on keeping america great ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich dark chocolate, toasted oats. perfect combinations of nature's delicious ingredients, from nature valley. ♪ nature valley granola bars, nature at its most delicious.
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>> what are you doing there? >> during the breast-feeding stage children can get confused when away from mothers. so i did something to ease him during chow time. i call it the mammary. >> he's also made his mission to bring downtown manhattan back after the devastation of 9/11. robert de niro and rosenthal. they're here to talk about keeping america great. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> now, robert, when you see a trailer like that and we have -- i don't know, dozens of great movies to choose from and we choose one of you wearing mammary glands, does your heart swell with pride or do you think why the hell couldn't you do something serious? >> no, my heart swells with pride.
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>> let's talk about the tribeca festival. it's been an amazi success story. what i like about it is it was born out of terrible devastation of 9/11. you got together, you two, with other people and decided we're going to bring the creative hub back to manhattan. we're going to revive manhattan through what we do best. an incredible festival which has taken on a life of its own. take me back to how you both were in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. robert, where were you? what went through your mind? and how quickly did you think i've got to do something like this? >> well, i was mid-town when it happened. and my son called me and said a plane had hit the world trade center. the first plane. and then i started heading downtown. i was about to go to the airport but i couldn't. so i went back home.
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and i was going down fifth avenue and i noticed that all the people were silently watching -- i think it was on the east side of fifth avenue where they could see the world trade center. you couldn't really see well from the west side of fifth avenue. it was indescribable what the -- what was happening. it was -- you know, just unbelievable. but we had talked about doing a film festival earlier just casually with what would that be like and so on. but then after 9/11, jane and i had talked about it again. i think she introduced it again. what do you think? and we were doing these meals downtown in restaurants in the neighborhood to help support the -- and drum up business. it was getting pretty quiet.
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so this came about after somewhere in there. >> jane, you pulled together the most incredible collection of people. i remember seeing nelson mandela and everybody else cueing up to help you. so you had this great ground swell of goodwill behind you. how did you turn that into not just a new york event but an international event and now one that generates really big money for new york? >> well, it happened with a lot of help from a lot of amazing people as you said. nelson mandela, barrie eleven son, hugh grant, studios such as universal and warner brothers. volunteers and amazing new yorker. it was about bringing people back downtown. what could we do as film makers to do something for our community? because clearly we weren't firefighters or steel workers.
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how could we do something? what was our creative response to our community and what could we do to give people a new memory to want to come back downtown? >> it's been remarkably successful. what do you think about america's recovery from 9/11 generally? >> well, i -- downtown has recovered in a lot of ways. it bounced back. you know, we like to think that we had help doing into with the festival and so on. i think it probably would have happened in any case. but i think that's a big question. >> when you see the state that america now finds itself in economically in particular and with other countries now threatening position as the only superpower, i've got a regular
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theme on this show keeping america great. what do you think america needs to do to keep itself great especially since 9/11, iraq, afghanistan, since the economic crisis? what does america need to do collectively in the same way that new york did, i felt, coming together and being very proactive in the aftermath of 9/11? what should the country be doing now? >> well -- you want to? >> go ahead. >> a lot of what we did was a creative response. it was artists coming together and artists trying to answer things that you couldn't make any sense of. and sometimes the artist's voice, the film maker can make more sense out of what's going on in the world than politicians can. i personally think that the biggest thing we can do is educate our children. education is the most important. our kids are our best natural resources. and teaching them to tell stories and tell stories from a different point of view and a new perspective.
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across all kinds of platforms. whether it's coming to film festivals or watching it on their ipods or going to a movie theater. i think it's important to tell interesting stories. >> and robert, what would you say? >> the middle class is suffering as we all know. we allowed or somehow we went down a bad path, if you will, with this mortgage situation and people being in my eyes taken advantage of. and who've agreed of others and everybody sort of snowballed. here we are on this thing hopefully we'll climb out of soon enough. but it really affected us. with all this divisiveness with people wanting to get elected, it takes us off the main track which is to get the country back together. and it is a lot of preposterous
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things being said by the republicans especially. we know it sort of feeds off each other and the media. it's like watching people fight. they're both kind of nuts but they're fighting and it creates big interest by the public. but really at the end of the day doesn't add up to much but a lot of silliness. people attacking each other saying absurd things that they couldn't possibly really believe or mean. so we've got to listen to that and witness that instead of getting serious and figuring out what we're going to do. >> you're somebody, robert, who very much personifies the american dream. you know, you took your opportunity. you were given opportunities. you became one of the biggest movie stars in the world. as an american, do you think that that american dream, the land of opportunity exists now
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in the way that it used to? and if it doesn't, what can be done about that? how do you get america's image, if you like, it's reputation back as the great land of opportunity? >> well, i think it's still that. i mean, people have the opportunity to do things. i'm very, very lucky in my life. i'm just lucky. period. you know? i -- the older i get, the more i realize that. i'm very lucky. and, you know, i thank whatever, whoever, whatever gave me that reason to be in that situation or whatever. >> do you agree with president obama's campaign? this warren buffett rule? the very wealthiest americans should pay a lot more tax? >> i absolutely do, yes. >> would you be happy personally
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to pay effectively what could be in your case tens of millions of dollars? >> i already pay a lot of taxes. >> would you object to paying more? >> well, i'll do whatever i have to do. whatever's fair. i think -- but what i see in some people. even people like romney from what i've seen, the tax that he pays are kind of astounding really from what i've seen, what they've said on the news. >> astoundingly low? >> low. yeah. very low. >> let's take a short break. i want to come back and talk to you about news. i hear you're a news junkie. it's all you watch. i hope that includes this show. don't give it away yet. facial expressions aren't telling me any good news. meineke's personal pricing on brakes.
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one of the big issues in america right now is this whole stand your ground law, which we saw in the trayvon martin case, george zimmerman accused of killing him, and using stand your ground to defend himself. what do you think that law in modern america? >> it's another big question. i -- i mean, without law, we have anarchy, we have chaos, we need law. we need -- i always laugh when people are mad at the police about this or that and then all of a sudden they say, call the police, no matter what. they're the last wall of defense. >> i suppose on this particular case, the trayvon martin case, where you had an american citizen, george zimmerman, who was in a position where he shot dead an unarmed teenager and then was able to go home that same evening because he was able
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to say, i was standing my ground. that's been the real bone of contention for people, putting aside the racial issues, the fact that in modern america, someone could shoot an unarmed person and go home the same night. >> no, a degree. i think -- i mean, we will find out what happened in that, but i think it's awful what happened. it's awful. >> yeah, i agree that justice should run its course. let's turn to movies. i always thought, if i got the chance to interview. a long time coming. i'd ask you a few questions i've always wanted to know personally. who to you is the greatest actor living today? >> well, i -- leonardo dicaprio is a serious young actor. takes it quite seriously, as can you see. or matt damon sean penn, he's a
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little older now, i can say sean is a young actor. i've known him so long he's not so young. >> let's just end on a couple things. one is, you and i have something in common, which may be a shock to you. and may be a disturbing shock to you. we both became fathers to little baby girls four months ago. >> yes. i didn't know that congratulations. >> it was number four for me, number six for you. >> yes. >> how is fatherhood the sixth time around going. >> it's great. i'm a parent. i have older kids and younger kids, obviously, so it's -- as any parent will tell you, it's an experience. >> let's get back to tribeca. it's running for ten days, i think, isn't it? an amazing huge festival. what is the main aim of the tribeca film festival.
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>> just to show a wide variety of wonderful and diverse films to the diverse audience. allow filmmakers to meet other filmmakers and screen some interesting films. >> robert, what do you hope it says about your city, new york? >> i like the idea of the festival not only just being a festival, it's a cultural thing -- it includes things other than just films, speed festival, it's ideas, it's panels, discussions, it's all kinds of things that we've come up with over the years, we try to make it the outdoor drive-in cinema. we've tried to do these things that make it a little more fun if you will and more popular if you will. and at the same time maintain the serious side of it, and get the best films we can.
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>> congratulations on the festival, on becoming a father again, and on surviving this interview, i know you can't stand doing them, for me, i've loved every second. it's been a great honor. i'm trying to hook you in to the two -- i think we'd have a great time. i want to talk to you about movies in more depth. but for now, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> bye. robert de niro, jane rosenthal. coming up, only in america, life, death and the funeral. [ male announcer ] if you believe the mayan calendar,
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tonight's only in america, a tale of two notable american deaths, first, dr. lester breslin. you can live longer if you have seven healthy habits. don't smoke, drink in moderation, sleep seven to eight hours a night, exercise, eat regular meals, watch your weight and eat breakfast. he improved the lives of many people with this formula. and then there's michael flathead blanchard who took a different approach. he wrote his own death notice. he said, weary of reading obituaries noting someone's courageous battle with death, mike wanted it known that he died as a result of being stubborn, refusing to follow doctors orders and raising hell for more than six decades. he enjoyed booze, guns, cars and women. he ask that you stop by his
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memorial and retell the stories he can no longer tell. the celebration will contain adult material, we respectfully ask that no children under 18 attend. two polar opposite views of how to lead your life. which would i recommend? they say the stats don't lie. dr. lester breslin, who didn't drink or smoke. exercised regularly, and practiced moderation in all things died last week at his home in los angeles aged 97. michael blanchard, who never stopped drinking, smoking and doing everything to excess also died last week in denver, colorado age 67. based on this comparison, i'm expecting myself to live until at least 68. that's all for us tonight. ac 360 starts now. that's all for us tonight. "ac 360" starts now.

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