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>> this is a serious violation. >> i'll talk to the man in charge of homeland security and the former director of the secret service. and tavis smiley and cornel west talk about the trayvon case. and my date with america's comedy sweet heart. >> i'm just sitting here enjoying my view. >> the incomparable and delectable betty white from the mary tyler moore show to golden girls. ♪ thank you for being a friend >> to her comeback in the proposal. >> let's see if we can find your boobs. they're in there somewhere. >> betty white is back and she's as sharp and naughty as ever. and a kindergarten tantrum ends with a 6-year-old girl to the police station in handcuffs. >> i was horrified. >> this is "piers morgan tonight."
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our big story tonight, the growing secret service scandal. the agents involved will be offered an opportunity to take part in a polygraph test. and a u.s. official says some of the men insist they didn't know the women were prostitutes. community chairman billy king is here along with brian stafford. and later my exclusive with probably the funniest 90-year-old in the history of show business. betty white's here live and unleashed remembering the great moments of her career and most certainly flitting with me. >> when you've been around for 61 years in this silly business, there's a lot of highlights. of course mary tyler moore and of course golden girls. but the wonderful writing that i've been blessed. actors will take credit but we can't do it without the writers. you know that. >> we begin tonight with our big story. the growing secret service scandal. congressman billy king is chairman of the homeland
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security. congressman, this is turning into a very tawdry affair not just for the secret service but also the president who's got these people operating in his name in a foreign territory in a disgraceful manner. >> let me just say as a republican, there's no responsibility here by president obama. the secret service operates independently. doesn't matter whether it's a democrat or republican president. what these 11 agents did was entirely wrong. wrong in every respect. while again they could create a climate that people can use against the president, i'm saying that president obama had nothing to do with this. no responsibility. he was down there trying to do his job as president representing all the people. >> well, that is responsible of you to say that. i applaud you for doing so. what we know now is up to 21 women, prostitutes we believe, were involved in this. and this happened within hours
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of these guys getting to colombia. so clearly they got there and had just gone completely crazy. what was going through their minds, do you think? >> first of all, i think the 21 number relates to both the secret service and the military. i'm more familiar with the secret service. my understanding is 11 agents and 11 women. one for one. some were denying they were prostitutes. even if they weren't, it was totally wrong to take a foreign national back to a hotel when the president's about to arrive. no. it appears as if they arrived there. they were not there long at all. they went out to this bar and there was drinking going on. apparently there were women there who appeared to be prostitutes. they we want back to the hotel. first of all, i have great respect for the secret service. they do a great job. what these 11 agents did, if true, is total irresponsible. they could have compromised security and themselves. they could have been killed or drugged.
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they could have had information taken from them. this violates the most basic rules of being a secret service agent. the oldest trick in the world is to recruit women to entice men to get information from them. for all we know, these women could have been working for terrorist gangs. they could have been operating on behalf of some terrorist organization. all the information we have so far is they were not. but that's the risk these men took for themselves and their country apart from what they've done for the reputation of the secret service. >> we're being told from reports that two agents held supervisory portion positions within the agency. two more to protect president obama from possible attacks. there are people saying tonight that given the scale of this and the seniority of some of these operatives, that the secret service director mark sullivan should be considering his position. what do you think about that? >> i don't hold mark sullivan
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responsible for this at all. in fact, i think he has acted very effectively. as soon as he learned about this midday thursday, almost immediately he ordered these agents removed from the country and brought back to the united states. he began an immediate investigation. the investigation is very intense. i can also telling you from speaking to director sullivan, leave it at this. he is incredibly angry, furious. he's going to do all he possibly can to make sure this never happens again. as far as the agents in a supervisory position, if they did what they're accused of doing, what's alleged to have been done, it's disgraceful, indefensible. and far from the fact whether they were prostitutes, bringing women back would have been bad under these conditions. secondly, even the all night drinking. believe me, i'm not into gauging anyone's morality. if you're part of an assault team and you're out drinking the night before the president gets there. i want a sniper to be operating
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at 110% efficiency, not recovering from a hangover. >> just to say that from a professional standpoint, it's completely outrageous. that the detail attached to look after president obama's interests abroad are behaving in this scandalous way. i think that's the key problem here. congressman, for now, thank you very much, indeed. >> thank you. now i want to talk to a man who knows how the secret service operates. brian stafford operated the secret service until 2003. thank you for joining me. this is to me, and i'm not intimately involved with the agency at all, but it seems the biggest scandal to the agency in a very long time. and the conduct is so shameful that somebody somewhere has to lose their job, don't they? >> well, piers, yeah there has to be accountability.
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right now i know that the current leadership of the secret service is really focusing on the allegations that have been made. they'll do a thorough investigation to see what is true and what's not true. then they'll take the appropriate action. it is shocking to hear what we heard. i personally feel after being in the secret service for 31 years that this is an aberration. it's hard for me to believe that this many people would be involved in something like this. obviously we're all human and people make mistakes. but this does seem to be a bit difficult to absorb. >> if this had happened on your watch given the scale of this and how many people are involved and how fast they were doing this on landing and how close to the work that is supposed to be
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doing for the president the next day it was, would you feel a sense as director a sense of personal responsibility? would you be considering your position? >> of course. any leader is going to feel that. if you can't lead, regardless of the situation, if you can't lead then you have to consider that. i don't think that's the situation that the current director mark sullivan and his leadership staff are in. i think they handled this situation as well as it could be handled. i know they'll leave no stone unturned as far as developing what actually happened down there. >> tell me, in terms of the culture of the secret service, there is a suggestion that there was a regular wheels up party that would be allowed to happen, be tolerated. when the president took off after a successful mission or travel trip, whatever it may be that the secret service agents were able to let their hair down and party a bit.
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is that true? was that what used to happen? is that part of the folklore of working for the agency? >> no. the secret service culture, piers, is a long and storied culture. the secret service was our country's first investigative law enforcement agency. it was created by abraham lincoln in 1865. and we have a tremendous hard-working, dedicated culture and dedicated, hard-working quiet professionals. these people will go to work every day. they're the kind of people who will put themselves literally in the line of fire and make the ultimate sacrifice for the president and for others that we safeguard. so our culture is intact. it's a culture that is emulated by other government agencies and it's emulated by the private sector. >> last question. is this the worst scandal of the secret service and its reputation?
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>> it's definitely the most media attention we've got in a long time. and it's not positive media attention. and obviously it affects the entire family of the secret service. past and present. it also affects their families that make similar sacrifices for the men and women to go to work and work the long hours and no days off and no being home for family special occasions. you know, obviously, i don't think it's fair to them to indict the whole organization for the few. >> thank you very much. >> you're welcome. thank you. joining me now are two men who have a lot to say about what's going on in america today. cornel west and tavis smiley. coauthors of "the rich and the rest of us." gentlemen, welcome.
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>> thanks, piers. >> good to be here. >> before we move to other matters, what do you make of the secret service scandal? it does reflect on everyone when the people protecting the president behave in such a shameful manner. >> yeah. i think it has much to do with arbitrary power running amok that's usually tied to some sense of arrogance and entitlement and feeling as if you're never accountable or responsible. and they got caught. >> let me -- we've got a bit of a delay here, chaps. i'm going to keep my questions brief. i want to play you a clip of ted nugent's comments today about president obama. they were actually yesterday. we have new ones in a moment. i want your reaction to this. >> barack obama becomes the president in november again, i
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will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. if you can't go home and get everybody in your lives to clean house in this vile, evil, america-hated administration, i don't know what you're made out of. our president, our vice president, hillary clinton. they're criminals. >> tavis, what is your reaction to that? obviously it is ted nugent. we should take what he says with a pinch. of salt. having said that, he has a platform, he has a voice and people listen to him. what was your reaction? >> that's the first time i've heard it, number one. number two, i guess a year or two ago i said on national television that this race would be the ugliest, the most expensive, and the most racist campaign for the white house we've ever seen. i was roundly taken to task by all media outlets for suggesting that a year or two ago.
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fast forward a few months and see how ugly, how expensive. mr. romney is going to try to raise $600 million. we're talking about that kind of money being raised to campaign for the white house. the super pacs are in full effect right now. every time somebody goes off the range. there's a difference between off the cuff and off the wall marks. the fact we give this kind of nasty, vicious comments this kind of national attention bothers me. but it underscores yet again how ugly, how racist, and how divisive this campaign is going to be. >> yeah. i mean, cornell, do you think that ted nugent would have been speaking like this if barack obama wasn't a black president? is there a racial element to what he's saying? >> i can't read his heart, but
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my hunch is it probably is. the point to keep in mind is that tavis and i come out of a legacy of martin king. we know this brother is -- we've got 300 million citizens out there. we understand that. we talking about something that's positive. talking about justice. talking about fighting for the poor. talking about ensuring the dignity of working people and fighting against any form of bigotry. even mormons. anti-mormon is prejudice just like anti-block. but we must judge all of us on our records. including brother mitt romney and brother barack obama. and it's clear to tavis and i which one we go for. but we concerned about the system. the system is targeted, shaped against poor people. we tired of that >> we will hear more of that. let's have a short break.
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what is solved by saying he's a racist? that's why he shot the boy. what solves that? this. and what is he doing with it? and who taught him and told him how to behave with this? >> that's bill cosby talking about the trayvon martin case an cnn this weekend. tavis smiley and cornel west back with me. let me ask you, tavis, when b you hear bill cosby say that, i saw a lot of reaction in his favor criticizing him. a lot from the black community saying he didn't get it. this is clearly a massive race case. whichever way you look at it. the profiling by george zimmerman had a racial aspect to it. but his point was the gun issue here is more important than the race issue. what did you think of that?
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>> i don't want to compare which one is more important. they're both significant issues. race is the most intractable issue in this country. having said that, we have ad nauseam talked about the issue of race in this case. we have not gotten to the conversation about guns. i've been saying for a number of days now that this is the real issue. there are too many guns in this country. the democrats have been weak on this issue. the republicans have been weak on this issue. the democrats had gabby giffords, she's one of their own. through all the hoopla and talk about her heroic come back, and i celebrate that. but they have not gotten around to getting tough on guns in america. and this has gone on for years. for years now the democrats have had no backbone in going after the guns. trayvon martin is not an aberration. this one made national news. there are far too many of america's children of all races, all colors who end up being the
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victims of gun violence. this country does not have the courage, the conviction, or the commitment to go get these guns. we need leadership in washington to make this happen. and quite frankly both sides -- apparently there's some sort of bipartisan consensus in washington that getting guns off the street ought not be a priority. i just disagree with that. >> i completely agree. cornell, let's talk about the sensitive side of this. many people say this was an appalling incident. whichever way you look at the trayvon martin case, he should not have been targeted in that way. we know the arguments. and the trial will now have its case. having said that, in chicago in the last week alone, another dozen young black teenage kids got killed in gang-related crime shot by other black teenage kids. there's clearly a very serious issue going on there. between young black teenagers.
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why is that not getting the kind of national prominence that the trayvon martin case is getting? >> well, one is of course the trayvon martin case is the peak of an iceberg of arbitrary power especially decisions of police departments that don't put enough value on the lives of poor black boys. especially poor children across the board but especially poor black brothers. it is not just the guns that are so important. but it's the police department that couldn't follow through on a decision as to whether there would be a rule of law, fair trial and so forth. when you talk about black brothers killing other black brothers. because a lot of white brothers are killing other white brothers too. but they tend to be poor. they're socially neglected, economically overlooked communities with intense police surveillance, shattered families, depressionlike levels of underemployment, dilapidated housing, decrepit schools and not enough love.
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any group of young folk would be tied to where the drugs come from. and so we have to look at both context as well as the bad choices being made here. keep in mind, when we examine the trayvon martin case, we got to highlight the dignity of his parents. sister sybrina and brother tracy. a magnanimity. >> if i could add quick. ghandi once said that poverty is the worst form of violence. poverty is the worst form of violence. in this country we will talk about race, we will talk about trayvon martin, we will talk about a variety of issues connected to this case and other cases. but we won't have a real case about poverty. poverty threatens our very democracy. it is the worst form of
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violence. and why it is that we can't find the kind of backbone and develop the kind of constitution to have a real conversation about shrinking the gap between the have gots and have nots troubles us. we can't see to get contract on that issue in washington. >> let me end -- we've got about 30 seconds left here. cornell, i've had you on the show before. you criticize president obama about not doing enough about poverty in america. do you think he's beginning to get to grips with it. if he's re-elected, do you guys have faith he will get to grips with it properly in a second term? >> i pray for his protection. i pray for his fight back. but also we plan and others to put pressure on him. we're going to put pressures on drones dropping bombs on innocent people. that's wrong. we're going to put pressure on relationships in wall street. it's a system. it's not really barack obama.
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he heads the system. the system itself is unjust and we're trying to transform it and put more love and justice in it. >> as always, great to have you on the show. thanks for coming back. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. stay strong, my brother. coming up after the break, two words. betty white. nothing else. she's live and unleashed and purring like a little kitten. the chevy cruze eco also offers 42 mpg on the highway. actually, it's cruze e-co, not ec-o. just like e-ither. or ei-ther. or e-conomical. [ chuckling ] or ec-onomical. pa-tato, po-tato, huh? actually, it's to-mato, ta-mato.
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you're so good. so strong. such nice, chubby little fingers. they're like ten tiny sausages. >> come on. it's a place of business. >> a classic scene from the mary tyler moore show. betty white making us laugh then. she hasn't stopped making us laugh. the golden girls be entertaining us at the age of -- i don't want say how hold you are. a gentleman doesn't do that. >> is 90 the word you're looking for. >> do say you're 90. it kills the magic. you look about 30. >> well, that's only around
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here. >> it's taken my 15 months to lure you into my den. why have you been playing so hard to get? >> i just wanted you to really want me. no, sweetie. it's all been my fault. and i know we tried to work this out. but we finally did. >> it's your damn schedule. you're the busiest 90-year-old ever. >> well, nothing wrong with that if you're enjoying it. >> there's only one way for you to make this up to me, the terrible delay in tormenting me. i want you to kiss my chubby fingers in the way you just did in that clip. oh, my god this is the most erotic thing that's ever happened to me. >> you poor baby. >> my wife's last words to me before i came down here tonight is watch yourself with betty white. she said she's the ultimate cougar. >> i am. in my own head.
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not any place else but in my head i am the ultimate cougar. >> i know. tell me something. i've been curious about this. why do you still want to be so busy at 90? you're all over the place. you're on this show. you're doing "saturday night live." you're appearing in movies. people say betty white, what motivates her to still do this? >> i happen to love what i do for a living. and they keep asking me. and as long as they -- if they really want to get rid of me, don't ask me. no is hard for me to say. i used to be able to say it when i was younger. i said no quite a bit. not often enough, but i just love what i do. >> why does america love you so much, do you think? when you look at the longevity of your career. people say you've come back. you never really have been away. you've been incredible for six, seven decades.
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why, do you think? what is the betty white magic? >> it's not magic. i think it's familiarity. i've been around so long that the kids kind of grew up seeing me. and their parents kind of grew up seeing me. and their grandparents kind of grew up seeing me. i've just been there all that time. and i think it's familiarity. >> i have three sons. two of them are teenagers. they're from britain and they said to me oh, dad, she's that cool lady from "the proposal." immediately. >> really? bless their hearts. please give them my love. >> i will. i'm keeping you away from the oldest. he's 18. >> well. >> tell me about your life. i want to know. you've been to vegas for the weekend. i had just been to vegas for the weekend. we were both in sin city at the same time. >> we were in sin city.
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but i went in yesterday afternoon and came home this morning. the nab convention. >> you were being honored. >> i was inducted into their hall of fame. it was a big thrill. >> amazing. >> yes, it is amazing. tell me about it. but it was interesting. but i was glad to get on that plane and come home. >> i'm told you get up at 6:00 in the morning. you have your wonderful dog that you live with and you tend to your dog. then you basically work all day long and you don't get to bed sometimes until 1:30 in the morning then you just carry on. >> well, i don't know why. i don't seem to require a lot of sleep. if i get four, five good hours, i'm fine. sleeping is sort of dull. there's other good stuff you can do without just lying down and closing your eyes. >> you have this incredible energy.
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a lot of people, i guess, they get to 65, 70, they start to give up on life. is the secret to your kind of passionate energy at your age just saying no, i'm going to carry on being this lively spirit. i'm not going to let just old age take over. >> well, i think old age is all up in here. i think you -- i just love what i do, as i say, for a living. and the fact that i'm still getting offers at this age is incredible. >> are we still talking professional offers? >> mostly. >> i mean, you are still a pin up for many people because of the golden girls. do you still get men making inappropriate suggestions? >> that's the thing. it's your point of view as to what's inappropriate. >> i want to take a little look
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now at a clip from golden girls. because this is why so many love you. >> oh, we had such fun. >> what i don't understand. i don't understand why he sent you flowers at all. i mean, two days ago you hated each other. and you know what else i don't understand? i don't understand how two people at a business meeting end up in bed together. and you know what else i don't understand? i don't understand why you didn't tell him this morning exactly how you felt. >> is that it? i mean, are you finished or is there something else you don't understand? >> well, actually there is. i don't understand how a thermos keeps things both hot and cold. >> my first thought looking at you looking at yourself there is are you wearing the same top? if so, how old is that top? >> oh, it's probably like the rest of my wardrobe. it's probably ancient. i still wear stuff that i wore on mary tyler moore.
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but i do live in this color. i love this color. >> it's a beautiful color. >> thank you. >> you are remarkably glamorous. >> oh, thank you. >> i actually mean that. >> i wish you hadn't mentioned your wife earlier. >> do you know what i think when i look at you, betty? i see somebody who has not been surgically enhanced. i see natural beauty. am i right? >> yes. >> any nip and tuck ever gone on? >> no. but gravity has taken over. >> let's take a little break. i need to calm down. i'm getting flustered here. when we come back, i want to play a clip from another male admirer. i think you're going to like this. one of the many male admirers. >> all right. >> and i just love betty so much. she's such a terrific woman.
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dear betty, you look so fantastic and full of energy, i can't believe you're 90 years old. in fact, i don't believe it. that's why i'm writing to ask if you will be willing to produce a copy of your long form birth certificate. thanks, happy birthday no matter how old you are. >> president obama and a birther joke for betty white who is back with me. what a moment. the president of the united states sending you a special joke as it turned out for your birthday.
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>> and we had nothing -- we didn't know about it until it came out. that was all done back in washington. i was so thrilled. i really was. i just couldn't believe it. >> could you believe the way your life as gone? you came to los angeles back, you know, in the great depression. you were two years old when you first came here. >> a year and a half. >> if you could have imagined the way your life was going to go, crazy, yeah? >> in the middle of all that, there was the love of my life. i had 18 wonderful years with alan. >> he was third time around for you with the marriage. >> yes. the first two were -- >> very short lived. >> rehearsals. >> they lasted a combined total of about three years, didn't they? >> if that. >> so what was going on there? you say rehearsals. what was the reality of you and romantic life in those early days? >> well, back in those days -- and that's why people like
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elizabeth taylor and people that are married so many times -- you didn't sleep with a guy until you married him. >> you didn't know how bad he was in bed until you married. >> yeah. you heard rumors. but you really didn't. and you didn't sleep around. i'm not denigrating the girls today, but it's a different set of morals. so if you were interested enough, you got married. and then you thought what have i done? oh, my goodness. this was not how i planned it. >> so when alan came along, it must have been great for you the third time around you finally found the guy who you genuinely loved. this was the love of your life, right? >> love of my life completely. but i was so smart. i kept saying no i won't move to new york. no i won't leave california.
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no i won't marry you. and he just kept -- he wouldn't say hello. he would say will you marry me? so he lived in new york and i lived out here. he would call me every night at 11:00 and easter came along and he sent me this beautiful, beautiful stuffed white bunny. and it had diamond and ruby earrings on its ears. and the card said please say yes. so that night i didn't answer the phone with hello. i answered the phone with yes. >> did you really? >> it was lovely. >> you didn't have as much time with him as clearly you would have liked. you were robbed, really, of him far too young. >> oh, far too young. >> ever since that day, have you ever even really looked at another man? or was that -- to you, was that it? >> as far as falling in love and being in love. i mean, i looked at them and i
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even go out with them and i enjoy them. but that was it as far as i was concerned. there'll never be another one. >> what is true love to you? >> alan. >> what was it about the relationship about him, about the chemistry between you? what should women strive to get to to get the love you had? >> it was his enthusiasm. he was interested in everything. and he knew how to court. oh, did he know how to court somebody. he just wouldn't let me up. he just would keep pounding and pounding and pounding about -- you've got to marry me. you just have to. and yet it wasn't overdone to the point where you thought shut up already. it convinced me that he truly loved me and he truly wanted to marry me. and after two bad experiences, you're very leery.
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because you've had two failures. and the failures no matter how you look at it are your fault. and so i just wasn't about to take another chance. then i thought am i going to live the rest of my life without this man? thank goodness we got married when we did or we would have missed it entirely. >> what would he have made of your career? has just reached this extraordinary -- >> he would have been thrilled to pieces. there was no professional jealousy or competition. he was always so thrilled when something good happened. >> let's take a little break. i want to come back and get very naughty with you. i want to talk about your risque side. >> why don't we do that -- >> in the break. >> in the break.
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and with auto-connect implements, it's the easiest tractor to use yet. what will you create? learn more about the affordable 1 series at i met this cute divorced guy who's in town for a couple of days on business. do you think i should call him? >> well, why not? >> absolutely. and i'm going to call that cute guy i met with the tattoos. curses are meant to be broken right? >> and i'm going to call fred. >> fred? that nerdy guy you play cards with every sunday? >> for the past 20 years. >> i thought you were just friends.
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>> if the guy's a cutie you got to tap that booty. >> legendary betty white, hilarious clip of betty in hot in cleveland. now in its third season. on wednesday nights you do this new show "off their rockers" which airs at 8:00 p.m. nbc. then you're back at 10:00 p.m. in cleveland on tv land. thank god i am in the middle, i am the sandwich, the 9 p.m. hour. >> i love it. you love it. you can't get rid of me. you can't. >> let's talk about fate. what do you think about the modern curse? it has become a curse to people. >> i think again it is all attitude, and if you consider it a curse, shame on you. you ought to be grateful for the people who have supported you
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and make you enjoy it. you enjoy doing this. i can see that. >> i do, yeah. >> it is written all over you. >> i think you do, very, very lucky to be doing a job like this. >> and grateful. >> i can't stand the modern consult of amongst younger celebrities that constantly complain. >> about everything. >> intrusion, the media, and we don't want to do it then get out. >> people come up on the street and pester me all the time. without those people, you wouldn't be here. >> true, isn't it? >> of course it is true and i get ticked off about that. i bet you do, too. >> i do. it really annoys me. when you look back at your 90 years, if i can replay a moment for you outside of marriages and everything like that, a moment in your life that you would say was the greatest moment of your life, if i could replay it, what would you choose? >> the hour and a half i spent in the caves with cocoa, the gorilla. >> really? >> absolutely, really.
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cocoa is a very good friend of mine, and i went up to see her and dr. penny patterson, her mentor, invited me up, and so i went up there and she is in this whole house, this beautiful, big house, and there is a little office outside here with some mesh, you know, and wire, so penny put the stool up next to the wire and cocoa came over and just put her shoulder up against mine, and pretty soon she started, a floor to ceiling door, and she started pointing to the door and pointing to a shelf outside in the office where we were. penny said, oh, she wants to show you her new television set. yes. she turned on the television set. no, that was not what she wanted. she kept pointing. then she point to the door and
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then she would point up at this cabinet. penny said, i am sorry, cocoa, she picked up a set of keys and she points to the lock at the top and the lock in the middle and the lock in the bottom and so penny undid the locks and coco undid one of these things that hold it is together, and opened the door and came out, took my wrist. >> touch me again. >> took my wrist, and pulled me into her part of the cage and she sat down against the wall and made it obvious she wanted me to do that. i sat down opposite, and i had my hands on her fat tummy, and i was in there for about an hour and a half. >> amazing. >> it was maybe one of the most magic moments. >> this has been my version of the cocoa moment. this is the great moment of my life.
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>> you didn't have your hands on my fat stomach. >> but i have got your lipstick on my hands on my chubby little fingers, and that is the greatest moment of my life. such a glorious pleasure. don't keep me waiting 15 more months. come back. let me give you a shameless plug. off their rockers airs 8 p.m. wednesday and hot in cleveland 10 p.m. in tv land and you can catch me in the middle of the betty white sandwich. what a place to find myself. thank you. >> thank you. it has been a joy. >> coming up, how do you follow betty white? only in america a cop handcuffs a six-year-old child. you won't believe this.
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according to the signs, ford is having some sort of big tire event. i just want to confirm a w things with fiona. how would you describe the event? it's big. no,i mean in terms of savings how would you sum it up? big in your own words, with respect to selection, what would you say? big okay, let's talk rebates mike, they're big they're big get $100 rebate, plus the low price tire guarantee during the big tire event. so, in other words, we can agree that ford's tire event is a good size? big big
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tonight only in america meet alicia johnson, six years old and lives in georgia. like many children at that age she can be naughty from time to time and kind of goes with the territory with being six years old. last friday she was naughty indeed. she threw a temper tantrum in her school in mill ledgeville and began throwing books and toys around and jumped on a shredder and tossed things off a wall including a shelf and hit a teacher's leg. how do you think the school responded to this naughty six-year-old girl? a trip to the head teacher's office, a visit to the naughty chair, maybe a request for her parents to collect her? no. the brains of creek side elementary decided there was only one-way to control the unruly six year old. i do say six, not 16, and that was to call the police.
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perhaps understandably this ridiculous over reaction cost alicia to freak out even more. the police officer did the obvious thing due to a six-year-old with a temper tantrum, stuck her hands behind her back and handcuffed her. yep, you heard me, they put a six-year-old girl in steel handcuffs and marched her down to the police station and put her according to her family in a holding cell before filing a formal juvenile complaint accusing her of simple battery and damage to property. in case i didn't mention it before, this girl is six years old. her aunt who went to the station with her mother to collect her said this. >> you will damage a child psychologically by doing something to that nature. that can damage a child for life. i was horrified really. it really hurt me to my heart. >> you might have thought with the benefit of time and
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hindsight the school and police may have realized they made a shocking awful error of over reactive judgment. not a bit of it. the acting police chief held a brief news conference this afternoon and stood firmly by his officer's actions. he had the child was handcuffs for her safety and the safety of others. of course because these six-year-old girls can be a real handful for fully grown male police men, can't they? because of her age she cannot be charged with a crime and want she has been spended from school until august. when i first heard about it i assumed it was exaggerated or a joke. what it was was petty bureaucracy going barking mad of silly little people failing every common sense test available to them and going bonkers. let me spell it out for those responsible in language even their miniscule brains may possibly understand loudly and


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