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key moment open to interpretation. that did not change much today. but it was a pretty dramatic and stunning day in court today. george zimmerman took the stand. for the first time since he shot and killed trayvon martin, he spoke publicly about what happened that night talking directly to martin's parents. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how old he was. i thought he was a little bit younger than i am. and i did not know if he was armed or not. >> that expression of regret as you'll see did not move trayvon martin's family. it did, however, as you'll also see tonight inject high drama into a bond hearing that many thought would be routine. it was not. zimmerman's apology was only part of the reason why. today's hearing also exposed some of the strengths and many believe weaknesses of the prosecution's case. for example, an investigator today admitted that he does not know one way or another who threw the first punch. martin or zimmerman. even though the second degree
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murder charge might indicate there was some evidence zimmerman was the aggressor. he admitted that there was no evidence for the claim he was attacked by martin while walking back to his truck. yet he also testified that the state has evidence raising doubts about other parts of zimmerman's story including his claim that trayvon martin was slamming his head against the ground shortly before he pulled the trigger. you add up all the testimony today and you're left believing that this tragedy is like one of those ink blot pictures. a rorschach test. the evidence, at least what we know about it so far does not seem to favor any single interpretation. for instance, there's the video of zimmerman in police custody the night of the killing. an officer appears to touch him then wipes his hand. was it blood? if so a how badly was zimmerman hurt? just seconds before he's seen jumping from a police cruiser and side walking smoothly through the station.
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yet that same tape also appears to show some kind of injury on the back of zimmerman's head. what do you see there? then there's george zimmerman's call to police. >> are you following him? >> yeah. >> okay. we don't need you to do that. >> okay. >> the prosecution contends that zimmerman kept following martin. testimony from martin's girlfriend who was on the phone with him at the time, apparently until the scuffle began seems to bear that out. yet zimmerman claims he lost martin and was headed back to his truck when martin beat him to the ground. today the prosecution admitted they've got no evidence to disprove that. just some of the pieces that don't add up at least not yet to one clear picture of what happened that night. about the only clarity came in the bail amount. $150,000 and the conditions of george zimmerman's release. plenty to talk about. first david mattingly who was at the hearing. >> reporter: everyone expected revelations. both sides walked into court
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anticipating new evidence from prosecutors arguing to keep george zimmerman in jail. no one expected this. >> my client wants to make a statement to the court, your honor. >> reporter: wearing a suit and shackles, george zimmerman shuffled to the witness stand and spoke directly to the parents of trayvon martin who were seated in the audience just a few feet away. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how old he was. i thought he was a little bit younger than i am. and i did not know if he was armed or not. >> reporter: but immediately the prosecutor attacked zimmerman questioning his timing and motivation. >> that's really addressed to the family where the media happens to be, correct? >> no. to the mother and the father. >> and tell me, after you committed this crime and you spoke to police, did you ever make that statement to the police, sir? that you were sorry for what you'd done? >> no, sir. >> you never stated that, did you? >> i don't remember what i said.
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i believe i did say that. >> you told that to the police? >> in one of the statements i said that i felt sorry for the family. >> you did? >> yes, sir. >> so that would be recorded because all those conversations were recorded, right? >> yes, sir. >> and you're sure you said that? >> i'm fairly certain. >> why did you wait so long to tell mr. martin and the victim's mother. the father and mother. why did you wait so long to tell them? >> i was told not to communicate with them. >> reporter: the surprise testimony almost overshadowed a stellar day for george zimmerman's defense. an investigator for the state couldn't answer basic but critical questions. who threw the first punch. >> do you know who started the fight? >> do i know? >> right. >> no. >> do you have any evidence that supports who may have started the fight? >> no. >> reporter: and did forensic analysis of the recordings determine who is that yelling
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for help on the 911 calls? >> is that part of your investigation? >> yes, it is. >> and has that given you any insight to the extent you're aware of it as to the voice? >> no. >> reporter: fearing for their safety, zimmerman's family testified by telephone. his father talked about his son's injuries. >> his face was swollen quite a bit. he had a protective cover over his nose. his lip was swollen and cut. and there were two vertical gashes on the back of his head. >> reporter: his mother talked about zimmerman's work mentoring african-american children in unsafe neighborhoods. >> i had told my son please don't go. it's too dangerous. and he said mom, if i don't go, they don't have nobody. >> reporter: and we heard for the first time from zimmerman's wife. a student unemployed and worried about safety.
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>> i received hate mail. >> have you reported that to the police? >> no, i haven't. >> have you reported that to my boss ms. corey, and the state attorney's office so somebody could investigate? >> no, sir. >> did you keep those threats? >> i'm sorry? >> did you keep that hate mail? >> yes. >> reporter: the state asked for a million dollar bond. in the end the judge ordered zimmerman released on a bond of $150,000. and safety remains the overriding concern about george zimmerman's release from jail. how is he going to escape all this scrutiny and slip back into hiding he emerged from to turn himself in? >> thanks very much. it was really a stunning day in court. just ahead our legal panel weighs in on what we learned today. sunny hostin, mark nejame, and mark geragos. but first martin family attorney, benjamin crump joining us. we all saw george zimmerman and the family face to face.
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what was their reaction not just to seeing him but to hearing him talk and that apology? >> it was a very emotional day, anderson. to be within feet of the killer of your child, it was very emotional. in fact, mr. martin wept continuously throughout the hearing. and it was something different because normally he would be the person confident. sybrina, trayvon's mother. but this hearing he was crying and she was comforting him telling him we have to stay strong. that the apology was very self-serving in their opinion. they did not feel it was sincere at all. >> because he had not apologized previously? >> not only had he not apologized previously in 50 days.
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he wanted to apologize when he was arrested. and it was one of those situations he had ulterior motives we believe. it was a situation -- you know, the real george zimmerman website. the website that he said he authored, that he was in complete control of. that everything that was important, everything that was relevant that he was -- about this matter he was going to put out there. yet in that whole website, he never says i'm sorry for taking trayvon martin's life. he never shows remorse until he gets in the courtroom. and whether he can go free is riding on it, he says i'm sorry. it's really interesting. he takes the stand and he's supposed to address the court and he underhandedly tries to put this apology out to the family. it was one of those things that they really, really thought was very insincere. >> i hear what you're saying. you know a lot of times in these
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situations an attorney talking to george zimmerman might say -- and he himself said he was told not to say anything. not to apologize. attorneys often say you cannot say anything. don't say you're sorry. it could be used against you later on. are you saying there was a way he could have said i'm sorry that would not have been used against him later on? >> absolutely. he wasn't following his lawyers' advice before. you heard his former attorneys say he started his own website. he was doing what he wanted to do. if he wanted to say i'm sorry, he could have said it on that website. he could have left voice messages with his friends. when he told them to stay strong for george and that stuff. he never showed any remorse, anderson. only when it was self-serving today. sybrina and tracy saw through it. it was hard for them because they kept watching the killer of their son. it was emotional. >> let me just ask you -- i'm sorry. let me ask you. we heard from the special
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prosecutor what they said on the stand today that they -- a lot of court observers felt maybe their case is kind of weak. that they couldn't say for sure who threw the first punch. does that concern you? >> well, anderson, we believe that angela corey has told us over and over they would not charge him with second degree murder if they did not feel they could get a conviction. we believe this was a bond hearing and they didn't want to show their hand. so they were not going to show all the evidence. one thing that is real interesting was he took the stand, but yet for some reason the court did not let the state get into his credibility. they didn't let them ask questions. he voluntarily took the stand to make this self-serving apology, but yet he was protected when the state got up and tried to attack his credibility.
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when you are the defendant, the state can always attack your credibility. your credibility is always at issue. and so that was -- that was puzzling why they couldn't inquire of him since he gave up his right against self-recrimination. >> benjamin crump, i appreciate you being on. let us know what you think at home. we're on facebook, google plus. if you watched today's proceedings, tweet me. we'll have more on this. we'll show you key moments from today. was it a better day for the defense than the prosecution? mark geragos and others, our legal panel weigh in in just a moment.
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a self-defense, second degree murder or something else? george zimmerman's story points one way. the charging documents points another. some say the prosecutor's performance today says one thing. and then george zimmerman apologizing on the stand to the martin family. then explaining why he waited so long. listen. >> i felt sorry that they lost their child, yes. >> and so you told detectives that you wanted them to convey that to the parents? >> i don't know that they were detectives or not. >> officers, i apologize. >> i didn't know if they were going to convey it or not. i just made the statement. >> okay. and then you said that you called them up or left a message for them to tell them that. >> no, sir. >> why did you wait 50 days to tell the parents. >> i don't understand the
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question, sir. >> why did you wait so long to tell mr. martin and the victim's mother, the father and mother. why did you wait so long to tell them? >> i was told not to communicate with them. >> let's talk about that today, a big hearing. lots to talk about. mark nejame, sunny hostin and also criminal defense attorney mark geragos joins me in new york. how do you think the prosecution did? we heard from the detectives he couldn't say who threw the first punch. were you surprised by all this? >> i thought it was abysmal. it was an abysmal performance by the prosecution today. if that's all they have, i've said it before on your show. i don't see him getting past an immunity hearing. >> benjamin crump said maybe they didn't want to show all they had. >> i guess that's a nice spin to put on it. but frankly, if that's all they have and everybody was expecting
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there must be more, there must be more because this probable cause affidavit was so thin. if this is all they have, i don't see how this gets past immunity hearing. >> sunny, do you agree with that? >> no. i'm sorry i'm not in new york to disagree with mark in person. in technicolor. this was a bond hearing, a motion made by the defense. the prosecution relied on the affidavit for probable cause. they weren't going to tip their hand today. they were going to rely on that affidavit. >> i'll ask you one thing. you're going to tell me -- >> mark, you know that. >> you're going to tell me based on that affidavit you ever thought you were going to keep him in? there was a lot of people yesterday -- all of the pro-prosecution people were all over the air waives saying he's not going to get bond. there's a presumption. >> not me. >> explain that. >> absolutely. >> don't talk all over each other. sunny answer. >> the standard is so very high for the prosecution in terms of a bond hearing in florida.
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it's beyond beyond a reasonable doubt. i suspect that george zimmerman would get a bond package. everyone knew that. >> mark nejame, $150,000 that's well within the realm it should be? you weren't surprised by that? >> i was predicting it would be about $100,000. that's normal realm. i disagree with mark. he classified this as an abysmal hearing. i think he's being very generous. i think the fact of the matter is that it didn't even rise to that level. the reality of it is, they went ahead and secured and by their open admission that they did not have any proof of who initiated this or how the encounter occurred. there's no opportunity for them to come back and say they're wrong when they swore to that. they swore to that under oath. that's all the evidence they had. so all the secrets they're claiming, sorry. >> when benjamin crump says they
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didn't want to show their hand and talk about all the evidence they had, you don't think that's true? >> as to these two key points, of course it's not true. because you take the stand and you get asked under oath, what else do you have to establish this or that which is essential elements of this case and they say they don't have anything else. they don't have anything else. that was said under oath. they can't come back and claim otherwise. >> give mark credit. he's willing to slam the prosecutors harder than i was and he has to practice down there. >> zimmerman was on the 911 tape -- and a lot of people focused on this today -- says to the operator that he appears to be in his teens, i believe, is what he says. on the stand, zimmerman today said he thought trayvon martin was just a few years younger than him. he's in his late 20s. let's listen to what he said on the stand. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how old he was. i thought he was a little bit younger than i am.
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i did not know if he was armed or not. >> how old would you say he was? >> he's got a button on his shirt. late teens. >> late teens. okay. >> so he now seems to be suggesting something else that he thought he was older and i guess therefore somehow more threatening. is that a lie? is that a mistake? what is that? >> innocent misrecollection is what they normally call it. frankly you did a better job there of cross examination than was done at the hearing today. >> they didn't point that out? >> that's what i'm saying. i watched that, i'm being charitable if you listen to the other mark by saying it's abysmal. i watched that. i don't see how they get past an immunity hearing. >> investigate on a probable cause affidavit particularly why he used the word profile. i want to play that clip. >> did you consider it to be a considerable type of profiling? >> no.
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>> then why'd you use the word profiling rather than noticed, observed, saw, or anything besides the very precise word profiled. and by the way, was that your word? did you come up with that word? >> i don't recall. this was a collaborative answer. i mean, excuse me. a collaborative document. >> when you swore that to be true, what did you mean that to indicate? >> that zimmerman saw martin, formed an idea in his head, and contacted the sanford police department. with no facts. >> sunny, obviously profiled is a loaded term. was it smart for the defense attorney to cast doubt on that? >> you know, i thought mark o'mara did a wonderful job today. i thought the prosecution did a good job as well. but that is a charged term, profiling. i thought the detective did a good job in explaining it. >> we've got two attorneys. one says it's abysmal and another says it's worse than that. how can you say they did a good
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job? >> i think they did a good job. this was a bond hearing. this wasn't a full blown trial. this wasn't an immunity hearing. the prosecution did what they needed to do. and they always do this type of -- >> they've got the detective now under oath on the stand saying he has no idea about two of the crucial areas. and you're telling me that's a great performance? that that's something -- they're going to get that transcript. they're going to use that at the immunity hearing. >> we've got to leave it there. >> goes a step further. >> go ahead then we go. >> briefly. sunny, you couldn't be more incorrect. the standard here was -- >> incorrect how? >> hold on, please. was proof evident and was presumption great? so the state knew they had a burden of establishing that. they asked for no bond. they knew this was going to be subject to attack. >> this was -- >> hold on. they left it wide open. it was more than a bond hearing. they should have been prepared. >> more than a bond hearing? it's a bond hearing.
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>> i got to go. sunny hostin, thank you. mark nejame and mark geragos, thanks for being here. and the observers that are supposed to be monitoring a cease-fire in syria. if there's no ceasefire. and second the suv in the video, practically the entire u.n. monitoring force there. keeping them honest straight ahead.
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well, keeping them honest tonight, how many people do you suppose you'd need to monitor a ceasefire in a country the size of syria. before answering, consider here in new york there are 34,500
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members of the new york police department. 34,000 police officers policing 8 million people and no one is waging war. also consider it takes four on ice officials to keep the piece such as it is at a hockey game. how many observers does the u.n. have on the ground in a country of nearly 23 million people? six. not 6,000. not 600. six people. two more than at tonight's stanley cup playoffs. and here is what they're up against. [ explosions ] >> that is homs today. that is shelling. one shell landing followed by a bracketing shot. then in a few seconds you'll see a third shell landing between the first two. heavy artillery, the kind only the syrian military has. the assad regime promised last
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thursday not to use it. promised not to fire on neighborhoods. promised to pull tanks and troops and snipers out of cities. i don't know how many times i repeat this every night, they haven't done any of that. the opposition says at least 57 people died today in syria. we can't confirm that number. that's nearly ten times the number of u.n. observers currently on the ground. ten times the number of dead versus u.n. peacekeepers. in fairness, the six monitors are only an advance team. next week there could be 30. 30. here's the reaction to that number earlier from the activist known as zaidoun. >> 30? we need 30 observers for one neighborhood only. >> what do you hope happening? what do you hope the international community does? >> the international community should send 3,000 observers and believe me, the regime will fall the same day. the regime would be toppled the
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same day. we would have people rushing to the streets for demonstrations. we want this regime to go peacefully but we need the help. we need the help of the rest of the world. don't tell me you couldn't have sent us more than 30 observers. 30? these are good for an examination. not observe an army of half a million people just firing all types of arms against civilians, against unarmed civilians. >> 30 observers expected. the u.n. secretary-general ban ki moon wants to increase that to 300 eventually. but there are only 30 expected and only six on the ground now. none have set foot in homs. even if all six or 30 or 300 did make it to homs, look at the size of the territory they'd cover. the rooftops go on for miles. it's the third largest city in syria.
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300 monitors in a city that size is the same as just 3,400 cops patrolling new york. not the 34,000 that do. and homs isn't the only city in syria. syria is 23 million people, 71,000 square miles. one monitor for 238 square miles. one for every 75,000 people. that's assuming all 300 monitors eventually go in. once again, there are six there now. one for every 4 million syrians. one for every 12,000 square miles of territory. for perk, the force that went into bosnia in 1992 was more than 40,000. again, only six unarmed individuals right now in syria. yet as this video shows, the ceasefire violations are so common only a few officials can stumble on to one. we can't independently verify the video you're seeing.
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perhaps one day the united nations can. tonight i spoke with george lopez and fouad ajami. i started asking professor ajami whether small numbers of monitors could accomplish anything. >> i think we know the answer to this question. this peace keeping mission is doomed. as is the other from the sudan was doomed. this rebellion will go on and the regime's killings will go on. i think both protagonists know that this ceasefire and this kofi annan mission and this effort by the u.n. by the arab leaders for not. >> you wrote this peace keeping mission as limited as it is is quote, a lousy choice but it's our only choice. why do you say it's our only choice? >> yes. well, first of all because the option on the ground that is most immediate. however ineffective they are, they are are u.n. presence that wasn't there two weeks ago.
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secondly, i think that those who reject this immediately are really waiting patiently for a military intervention that's not going to really materialize. and i think what we can do is to use this as a kind of sharp wedge as dull as it may be at the start to begin to allow other kinds of things to happen. i think you may see what the greater rejection of the cease-fire monitors, the greater harassment by the regime, there's some neighbors who begin to stiffen their back a bit. there's sanctions being leveed than ever before. that's an uphill climb to persuade the russians. but it may be in the cards in the next couple of weeks. >> fouad, what about this paying off three months down the road? >> well, three months is a long time when you look at the killing rates by the assad regime. when you talk about 50 people killed a day. 60 people killed a day. you can crunch the numbers. and i think more patience will
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not yield anything. i think we understand what the stakes are and we understand what this confrontation is all about. and people who think that somehow or another these monitors are going to be a wedge and they will create a status quo that assad didn't expect. the two protagonists, the regime and the opposition know they're in this fight to the finish. and they know the presence of outsiders is really marginal. >> if you're discounting the idea of peace keepers, 250 peace keepers, what do you want to see happen? arming opposition? air strikes? what do you want to see? >> absolutely. here's an episode that is interesting. at some point the libyans, the libyan revolutionists that are in power will say we have crates of weapons we want to send to the syrians. we want to help syrians with these crates of weapons because this is a confrontation. a military confrontation when all is said and done. and the united states, we have to record that, basically gave advice and a ruling and gave a
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judgment against that kind of gift. then we talk about arms embargo. what do we mean by an arms embargo? the regime has arms. they have gun ships. they have all the things that armies have. it's the people of syria who are unarmed. there's all kind of options. safe zones within syria. there's lots of things that could be done. i think this peace keeping mission is just in my opinion another -- it's a false detour. >> george, why not a safe zone? why not arm the opposition? john mccain talked about international air strikes. >> sure. i think that there was a way in which international air strikes two or three months ago as tanks were moving to homs might have been an option. might have created an opportunity for the military itself to rethink its loyalty. but we're at a position of mid-april right now. and in mid-april, the air strike option is much more difficult. not only because of syrian mounted defenses but because we've embarked on a path in
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which there has been arming of the opposition. we know the differential in fire power. the annan plan gives us opportunity next week to talk seriously about the creation of the humanitarian corridor. i fully expect as our good counterpart would say that assad will reject that. let him reject that next week and see what the attitude of the russians and others are. i think unfortunately the bulk of the activity falls to the diplomatic in the next three to four weeks. while none of us, none of us at all, are advocating patience or a likelihood assad will embrace this plan, what it does is continued rejection creates an opportunity diplomatically for the security council to get a bit morepine and take the more deliberative chapter 7 action and impose the sanctions and the likelihood of the use of force. and work in a way in which the arab league and neighbors can accept it. unilateral will create me problems and lead to more
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killing of syrians than any other option we have available now. >> fouad ajami, george lopez i appreciate your perspectives. thank you. >> thank you. there's more news tonight. the search for etan patz. why police believe a cement basement is so important? possible breaks after 33 years
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crime and punishment tonight. investigators here in new york have zeroed in on a basement looking for the remains of etan
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patz who disappeared more than 30 years ago. authorities have questioned a 75-year-old man named athneil miller. he's the carpenter who had a workshop in the space now being searched. he was seen with patz the day before he'd disappeared. a source familiar with the investigation says that miller gave patz a dollar that day. it's important to know miller has not been charged with a crime. susan candiotti joining us with the very latest from the scene. what have you learned today, susan? >> even more about that retired carpenter. according to a law enforcement source while police were questioning him, the man suddenly blurted out quoting here, what if the body was moved? that sounded a lot of alarms. we also learned that a fresh concrete floor was poured in that basement back in 1979. that's the same year that etan disappeared. now, mr. miller has not been arrested. and his lawyer told us today that his client is fully cooperating with the fbi and
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that mr. miller has nothing to do with the boy's disappearance. and his daughter is telling us the same thing. we have also learned that the fbi has been questioning lately other people besides mr. miller. this investigation is certainly far from over. meantime, chunks of concrete have been coming out of the basement. the fbi tells me they have been digging about six feet below that basement floor into the soil looking for any signs, anderson, that that soil has been moved over the years. the question is really this. how did a little boy in such a big city disappear? as it turns out, it may have all played out in just a few city blocks. may 25, 199. it's a friday and 6-year-old etan patz is upstairs in his third floor apartment getting ready for school. he comes straight out this door all decked out in a corduroy
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jacket, pants, and a pilot hat. he can't wait to get to school. for the first time, etan's mom and dad are allowing him to walk two blocks down the street this way to get to his school bus stop all by himself. >> it was the friday before memorial day weekend. this was going to be his last opportunities. they finally relented and they said he could go. >> reporter: it's just after 8:00 a.m. according to author lisa cohen, his mother kisses him good-bye and watches him walk toward the bus stop. everything looks fine. so she runs back up to take care of her 2-year-old son. this is where etan was going to meet the plus. we're just two blocks away from their apartment. i can still see it from here. but etan never made it. at the end of the school day when he didn't come home, his mom calls police. >> by that time, several hours had passed before anyone had any idea there was something wrong. those are crucial hours for an investigation. >> reporter: etan's dad frantic starts grabbing photos of his
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son to show to people in the neighborhood. investigators interview the parents and start canvassing the area for the youngster. see that traffic light? that's the bus stop. and right here we are just a block away. this is where the fbi is now digging up that basement. a basement where a carpenter used to have a workshop way back when more than 30 years ago. police did search that basement, but they did not dig it up. now the fbi is trying to figure out whether the key to etan's disappearance was right here all along. >> stunning to think there could be a new development. i'm joined now by forensic scientist from the college of criminal justice. also by mary ellen o'toole. former fbi special agent. and lisa cohen. she's the author of "after etan: the missing child case that held america captive." you spoke to etan's father today and also yesterday. have you talked to them about this man?
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would they be surprised if he was the suspect? >> they are being very closed mouth about the recent developments. because the fbi has asked them not to talk to anybody about it. they knew him. the family knew him. and etan knew him. he -- they were pals. and they actually would spend some time together. he was a carpenter and a handyman. and sometimes etan would help him do his jobs. >> even in the beginning, was he on a list of people -- the police were looking at? >> yeah. he was on a list for many years off and on. they talked to him. they interviewed him in 1979. i know that they searched every house, every basement, every rooftop in a four block radius for -- and then beyond eventually. at least once. if not more than once. >> so they had been in this basement before? >> in all likelihood. >> dr. kobalinski.
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forensic science is leaps and bounds ahead of what it was in 1979. how is that going to the investigation? and these cadaver dogs. a dog could be responding to a variety of different scents, correct? it doesn't have to be necessarily human. >> absolutely. good point. i think modern technology allows the fbi and nypd to use ground penetrating radar to help them in their search. this is a technology where you are sending microwave radiation into the ground picking up any solid structures. or voids in the ground. you get a reflection back. it appears on a monitor. now you know where to search. it penetrates concrete. but i think removing the concrete makes it easier. now, the cadaver dogs tells them another story. they sense some of the chemicals that are produced after decomposition.
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there are over 400 such chemicals. some of these chemicals are very pungent. but after 33 years, you're left perhaps with small numbers of molecules in that area. dogs being as keen, they have this sensitivity of smell we can't even imagine. if you can concentrate the few molecules and the dogs are permitted to investigate, they will alert if they sense the smell. but you're right. will they differentiate between human remains or animal remains or other organic decaying material. that's the question. how reliable are these dogs? i would say they're great for investigation. they may help the police search certain parts of that vast area. there's over 800 square feet they have to look at on the ground. not to mention the walls. they've got to go into the walls. but they certainly will get some help by the alerts of these cadaver dogs.
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are they totally reliable? i don't think so. >> mary ellen, in cases like this, i mean, i know statistically it's usually somebody the family knows. but i guess because at this int nothing is known, police have to look -- continue to look at all options. >> well, they have to look at all options. but i think people need to understand the definition of a total stranger versus someone who may be familiar with etan and knew his schedule, knew he would be walking to school. probably escorted. but that morning he was alone. so i think that that's the first circle that investigators are looking at. >> so the chance that this is like a snatch and grab of somebody who had no connection to him, just happened to be on the street when he was there. that's unlikely, you're saying. >> i think that's very unlikely. and i think there's a certain amount of familiarity not just with etan but also with the area and the time of day. they were comfortable there. so i think that's why people
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didn't see any kind of commotion. >> it makes it all the worst to think it could be somebody they knew or had contact with. it's such a haunting case. we've got to leave it there. thank you very much. more news -- more fallout on the secret service prostitution scandal. president obama gets an update. that's next. t meineke's personal pricing on brakes.
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i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. back to anderson in a moment. first, a 360 use and business bulletin. >> three additional employees of the secret service have resigned
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in the wake of the prostitution scandal. also president obama was briefed on the situation today by the director of the secret service. pakistani officials say there was no survivors from the plane crash earlier today. 127 people were on board when the airliner went down just before landing. the flight data recorder has been recovered. two years ago bp deep water horizon rig exploeld -- exploded in the gulf of mexico killing 11 workers. this week bp settled a class action lawsuit and will pay nearly $8 billion to businesses and residents in the gulf region. also a great white shark killed a young man who was body boarding off cape town, south africa. the 16 foot long shark bit off the man's leg. the beach where it occurred is now closed. anderson, back to you. coming up, i'm going on "jeopardy" again. i'm hoping third time's a charm
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and i hope the pressure doesn't make me crack. the ridiculist is next.
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time now for the ridiculist. tonight the answer is jeopardy. the question, what is pressure? yes, i've agreed to put myself through the sleepless panic of being on jeopardy for a third time. it's taping this weekend as part of "jeopardy's" power players week. it airs in may. this time around, i'm up against tom friedman of the new york times and nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell.
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according to a poll on jeopardy's facebook page, 53% of people think i'm going to win this thing. i appreciate the vote of confidence, but clearly those who voted for me must have seen the first time i was on "jeopardy." i remember it well. >> anderson? >> what is germany? >> correct. >> who is archie bunker? >> he's the one. >> that's it. >> yes, indeed. >> you're the leader and the winner today. >> yeah. i'll pretty much say it. i pretty much cleaned the floor. with maria bartiromo and kweisi mfume. oh how i revelled in being a jeopardy champion. that is, until the second time i was on jeopardy when i got chonged by cheech marin. >> cheech? >> what is camelot? >> yes. >> what is a baster? >> yes. >> cheech, what's this? yeah.
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good job, cheech. yeah. i got annihilated by cheech marin. so what? good times. i've been gathering tips for my third appearance. by the way, on cheech marin, i thought his synopsis would have been slow by now. i mean, i've watched those movies of his. i know what he was doing for years. but he's quick. he's not only quick in the mind, he's quick on the buzzer. it's all about the buzzer. anyway. jeopardy champion ken jennings gave me this advice on twitter yesterday. never tell a cat story during the interview segment. dually noted. i'm also thinking about employing cheech's buzzer theory. >> you were doing the index finger. >> i learned that from a track coach when i was in high school. with the stopwatch timer. a faster reflex with the index finger. >> i hope friedman and o'donnell are not watching this now.
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i'm going to try this. this is serious business. it's all about the buzzer. as we all know from snl, it's not like celebrity jeopardy is easier or anything. >> let's just get this over with. here are the categories. they are potent potables. countries between mexico and canada. members of simon and garfunkel. i have a chardonnay. if you choose this, you automatically get the points and i get a glass of wine. >> i think my plan is just get into the rhythm of the buzzer and try to keep calm. surely i can stay calm. >> who's afraid of -- oh, what is who's afraid of virginia woolf? >> no. >> anderson, don't beat up on yourself. >> i take this thing very seriously. i just hope that i don't completely choke. in other words, no matter what happens, i don't want to pull a blitzer.
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>> wolf? >> what is fettuccine? >> no. >> wolf? >> what is jerusalem? >> no. >> wolf? >> what is a defendant? >> no. >> wolf? >> what is a crash? >> no. >> wolf, oh. wolf. wolf. that was negative $4,600. not a great situation. i know i shouldn't judge, i couldn't make fun. that could be me tomorrow. you can watch how it turns out. may 14th to may 18th. it's all for a good cause. that sound means we're out of time. friedman, o'donnell, look out. i'm about to go all cheech on your chong. that does it for us. thanks for watching. tonight the stunning decision in the trayvon martin shooting. >> setting bond in the amount of $150,000. >> ge

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