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by waging war on women's health. before you attack me saying i'm a republican mouthpiece or anti-women, i'm not talking about past republican efforts that have been portrayed as hurting women. i'm focusing right now tonight on the effort by republicans to offset the cost of keeping student loan rates low by cutting women's funding. republicans voted to extend the low rates and only by paying for it by eliminating money to fund preventive health care. that's true. but they are cutting prevention funding for everyone. those are facts. we have reported on this before. but it didn't stop moveon.org from taking out this ad. it goes on to say they, meaning republicans, will "only keep rates low if they cut funding for women's health. keep stafford loan rates low, and do it in a way that doesn't try to pit students against women." keeping them honest, it doesn't.
it zeros out a portion devoted to preventive medicine. hiv screening, nutrition programs, hospital control, immunizati immunization, fighting obesity. but nothing for mammograms, pap smear s, prenatal care. now the obama administration wants to include breast and cervical cancer programs in next year's funding. $260 million, but so far it's only a proposal. and make no mistake. though eliminating all funding for preventive care would have a big impact, but it's an impact on everyone. that's not the issue. that's not how moveon.org is framing it. the issue is claims like these. >> the way to pay for this assistance for students is not to shut down health for the women of this country. >> a continuation of their
assault on women's health. >> pile on on that assault on women's health care. >> continuing their all out assault on women's health. >> attack women's health and children's health. >> they now are attacking women's health. >> it's interesting that the fund they keep going back to, particularly benefits the reproductive health care, chald baring, preventive health care that's necessary to women. >> this is a fund that democrats voted to cut earlier this year. keeping them honest, even if democrats were pursuing this line, they have been moving the goalpost. 60% of the billion-dollar fund goes to women and children. not women. women and children. that's a huge difference. a spokesman says i think we're on solid ground. but some disagree. the post awarding the claim two out of four pinocchios. i talked with justin rubin.
>> the funding that republicans want to cut is not specific to women's health. it's funding for a lot of different services as you know. nutrition programs, hiring more doctors, and these are services that benefit men, women, and children. how can you say republicans are pitting students against women. >> you have student it loan rates that are going to double on july 1st. it's a huge problem for students that are groaning under the weight of all these loans. and republicans are under a lot of pressure for blocking efforts to fix that. then their latest has been to turn around and say we're going to cut the health care programs, which predominantly benefit women. >> that's not true. >> it is true actually. >> how can you say that? >> there's two things. first of all, 60% of the funding overall goes to basically
programs that benefit women and their children. and then you have -- >> wait a minute. now you're including children on this. but i mean, you can't say 60% of the funding goes for women and children. it's not broken down for that. most goes for hiring doctors and anti-smoking efforts and anti-obesity efforts. >> republicans have cut funding for health care programs. the president said, okay, i'm going to use this fund to pay for essential cervical and breast cancer screening programs in the 2013 budget. republicans then respond by saying, we're going to cut that whole fund, including the funding for those programs. >> it's fund iing for obesity, r hiv, for a lot of things. factcheck.org says you cannot say this is funding specifically for women. in fact, when the democrats agreed to cut billions of dollars from this a couple months ago, moveon.org didn't say they were tarpgting women's
health. it's only now that it benefits your agenda. >> i think that's just not true. >> president obama himself agreed to take money out. his budget for 2013 specifies taking money out for this. but you don't think he's targeting women do you? i haven't heard you say president obama is targeting women's health. now it's republicans targeting women's health because they are wanting to do it. >> the fact is we have -- >> so when president obama -- >> we fought president obama all the time. >> where's your ad? >> the fact is if you want to look at who is consistently targeting women, who is the party that's trying to eliminate funding for planned parenthood? who has consistently been trying to cut funding for pap smears? that's the republicans. they are going to try to dodge and get away from that.
but it's true. there are over $200 million of 2013 funding they are zeroing out. we shouldn't be having this conversation. >> my job is to report on facts. not to meet your agenda. when president obama suggests in his budget cutting billions of dollars from this, i don't see a moveon.org ad saying president obama is attacking women. you only seem to be targeting republicans because that meets your political agenda. >> i just don't think that's true. >> so when president obama wants to cut this, that's not target ing women? yes or no? does that target women when president obama wants to take billions of dollars out of this? >> when president obama is taking billions of dollars out of that, it's wrong. >> so he's targeting women. >> i don't think president obama is waging a war on women. >> but republicans are? >> yes. you have a bill in virginia that -- >> i'm not talking about virginia. i'm talking about this. >> i feel like this isn't rocket science. you have a billion dollars of
funding. overall, most of that is going to programs that are women-specific. >> they benefit everybody. i'm not arguing dpr for cutting the program. >> if you look at this, the majority of the people who benefit are women. then you have hundreds of millions -- >> it says you can't say that. hiring of doctors, anti-obesity -- >> if you take that program for example, because you have more women of child baring age because they are obese, that funding goes to women. >> what it is is it goes to community grants to do environmental things like walking paths to benefit everybody. to say a walking path benefits women more than men. i understand your argument. >> i think we're splitting hairs
here. you have a program that benefits women hundreds of millions of dollars specifically earmarked for cervical cancer and breast screenings. this is what republicans have been doing all year. this isn't part of our war on women. it's an attack on health care generally. i mean, come on. there's a way to pay for these student loans. that's to ask millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share. >> that's a separate discussion. i understand your argument. i appreciate it. thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> the political impact of this, do you think it's accurate for democrats on capitol hill to be saying this specifically, this idea of you know the student loan bill by offsetting it by eliminating these services is part of an attack on women specifically?
>> i looked at factcheck.org. i think they are right. i sympathize with moveon.org because it's hard to get into a discussion about how republicans are screwing up priorities in the budget these days and taking programs from the needy to serve other programs. if you have decided that student loans is something we ought to do to help, then don't do what you did two weeks ago which was pass $45 billion worth of tax cuts for the wealthy. fund student loans. don't take it from the health grant. >> but does it help their argument to be stretching the facts? there's plenty of things they can argue about if they want to argue about war on women or whatever. this particular one it doesn't seem to hold water. >> the preventive held fund is a discretionary fund. in many instances, it's up to the secretary for the programs it will fund.
and president obama and house democrats are hoping they will fund certain things and they are hoping they will be programs for women in preventive health. but again, like okay, you're right. you've got them on the specific language. but that doesn't mean that that's like the end oaf the debate. the worthy debate here is how are republicans choosing their priorities? they are not choosing the right priorities. >> is it fair for when the democrats earlier this year to extend the payroll tax cuts to take money from this preventive health care fund and when president obama's budget talks about taking money from this fund, no one seems to be arguing they are attacking women. but when republicans are doing it, they are attacking women. >> good for you, anderson. this is a total case of being absolute double standard by the democrats on this issue. president obama proposed a $4 billion cut in this same
program. in february when they passed the payroll taxes, they had bipartisan support. democrats voted to cut this very program. you know, the bigger problem here, anderson, is when people say you can't cut anything and they turn it into a war against women or children, this is why the government is so big, spends so much and we have trillion-dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. there are no budgets in washington. the senate hasn't passed a budget in three years. the house is at least trying. and president obama has given up on trying to bring the parties together to achieve a consensus because it's an election year so he won't even try. so washington is broken and this is one of the biggest reasons why. it's picking these fights over issues, war on women, war on children, when people are trying to make rational delgs decision. i don't know why the federal government is in the student loan business to begin with. this is something that the private business should be in. >> the private sector was in the
business and they ripped off students and charged them usury rates and people had the federal government come in for very good reason to regulate an out of control, greedy business. >> they took it over. >> let's go back to the issue that ari raised, where is the federal budget and how are these priorities being set? because the truth is that federal spending is down. and when we look at the overall increase in jobs, they are increasing in the private sector, not in the public sector. so what we have is a necessary choice about priorities to make. when the republicans push tax cuts instead of helping needy folks in preventive health or food stamps or day care, just the things they will be voting on on monday. they will be voting on a bill to give tax cuts again to people earning over $1 million and cut food stamps and cut day care and
cut education support. this is about priorities. . this is not about a bloated budget. if this were about a bloated budget, they wouldn't give tax cuts because tax cuts cost mo y money. >> ari? >> moveon.org got two pinocchios. the fact of the matter is spending was $2.7 trillion in 2007. now it's $3.5 trillion. federal spending just keeps skyrocketing. the economy under president obama is so weak. the percentage has come down because the economy is not doing well. the taxpayers are going broke. >> then stop giving the money away. >> that's the fundamental problem. there haven't been any tax cuts passed. i don't know why hilary is saying give it away. president obama is the one that
extended the tax cuts. >> they haven't been passed. >> the government spends so much. we're all in deficits and debt and all going broke. >> hilary, very briefly. >> ari is fill bustering the discussion here. but the fact is mitt romney's plan is to increase tax cuts to give more money away. if republicans were worried about the federal budget, they would not do that. they would focus on pure spending cuts. but that's not their agenda. their agenda is to eliminate federal programs for the needy while they give friends a tax cut. >> it's called trying to achieve growth. >> appreciate it. let us know what you think. we're on facebook. follow me on twitter. i will be tweeting tonight. also the showdown with china. he escaped house arrest. left the embassy. he was forced out. now he wants to get out of china
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message in eng lish. sglt sglt sglt sglt sglths. >> translator: i want to meet with secretary clinton. i hope i can get more help from her. i also want to thank her face to face. so the thing i most concerned right now is the safety of my mother, my brothers, and i really want to know what's going on with them. >> we're going to put on the left-hand side of our screen a look at our signal from china. last night when we broadcast this story in china, we were taken off the air on cnn international. just a clear example of sensorship of the chinese regime. we'll be monitoring to see if we're taken off the air again in chi
china. chen hopes they will ensure the legal rights of his relatives and wants his freedom of travel guaranteed. he's staying at a hospital after leaving the embassy after a deal. secretary of state hillary clinton was due to arrive for scheduled trade talks. the timing was awkward. the situation has gotten more complicated. the state department said that chen left willingly and never said he wanted to leave china. but fears for his family's safety and hopes to get on a plane with secretary clinton when she leaves. the state spokesman was asked what u.s. officials plan to do. >> we're not sure, in fact, what his intentions are or what his goals are now. >> i think he made it clear what his goals are. he said he wants secretary of state hillary clinton to take him back on a plane with her.
>> i'm not going to speculate. in washington, i'm not going to speculate on a possible outcome. >> this is a high stakes issue for china and the u.s. during our report last night. chinese state television blacked out our signal. it was restored after our report end ended. you can see it go back to the program after our story ended. we'll keep a picture in the bottom of the screen. we think it's worth noting since this is world press freedom day. stan, you spoke -- and it just went to black as we saw. we have now just been censored in china. you spoke to chen today. what did he tell you, stan? >> reporter: he's very resolute. there's one message here. and that is he wants to get out of china. there's no debate about that. there's no doubt about that. there's no confusion about that. he has said that time and time again. we first spoke to him on
thursday morning. through us he made an appeal to president obama. please, mr. president, get me and my family out of this country and to the united states. he has reiterated that time and time again. he's in fear for his life. when he met his wife, his wife said how she had been tied to the chair and beaten after guards discovered he had fled from house detention. is he going to achieve it? that's going to be the big question here. he's appealing directly to hillary clinton. he wants to meet with the secretary of state face to face. his appeal to president obama as of right now though he's in the hands of a government that has jailed him in the past and considers him an enemy my of the state. >> so he's still in the hospital now? >> reporter: he's in the hospital and surrounded by guards. his health is not good. over the past months being under house arrest, he says he's been eat skpn not had full medical
treatment. friends talk about internal bleeding. he damaged his leg in the get away. he needs medical treatment, but he's also guarded. he can't move around. there's a strong presence outside. yesterday there was an extraordinary image. the first is of a supporter of chen's who came to speak out in front of cameras. he was dragged away forcibly. that shows the guards there don't care what the rest of the world sees. the other image a senior official from the u.s. embassy standing outside the hospital because e he couldn't get in. >> he also spoke to the ambassador to china. did he leave the door open to the u.s. trying to help him out? >> reporter: absolutely. he maintains throughout that chen has said to him time and time again, i want to stay in cho china. i want to fight for freedom in this country. and i want to leave the embassy and be reunited with my family. you saw the images. he was smiling and hugging officials when they took him to the hospital.
but everything changed after he went to the hospital. then he said, no, i don't trust the chinese government. threats have been made. we need to get out of here. the ambassador said they are going to continue to talk to try to negotiate something. but here's the problem. to actually get asylum, he needs to be on u.s. ground. that could be the embassy itself. the one that he walked away from 24 hours ago. >> appreciate it. be careful. it's friday in china on the screen there. we're still blacked out being censored in china. it just went to black when stan began his report. secretary clinton heads to bangladesh on saturday. i spoke to david gerken about this. >> the honor of the united states is at stake with its handling of mr. chen. how so? >> the united states has long been one of the foremost advocates for human rights.
we stood up to the soviet union. we stood up in regards to china. of course, the united states relationships were taking place with china in a broad array of issues. but this one is so simple and straight forward. it's about the life of a hero who is blind, who escaped from chinese authorities. most americans say when he comes into the u.s. embassy, his protection is a matter of national honor for us. >> if he disappears gerngs the obama administration will be humiliated? >> absolutely they had him under their protection and there were promises from the foreign ministry, which is a delvish element. now he's in the hands of the security forces. >> do you think the u.s. is being up front when they say that chen changed his mind? >> as far as i can tell, that is indeed what happened. a lawyer who was brought in by
chen guangcheng confirms that account. and today chen guangcheng he confirmed that. he left voluntarily. he thanked the embassy. he did leave voluntarily. then he got shaken up when he talked to his wife and lawyer. >> the u.s. and china are on a collision course for conflict. what's the potential fallout here? >> the fallout is going to be very significant. we all remember that young man in the square that stood up to a tank. that was enormous. it was enormous. this could damage relations. but again, it's a question of, i think nick is right. we'll be humiliated if we lose this guy. kurt campbell, who was sent there by the assistant secretary of state, he's a very tough, very competent person. i would trust him to handle
something like this. i think somehow signals got mixed up because chen also had assurances, he says, that americans would be in the hospital. and he would have american there is with him. and right now, there are no americans with him by all our repo reports. >> nick, he said he would like to leave on secretary clinton's plane with his family. how is that possible? >> the chinese are not going to let him leave on clinton's plane. there is a possibility they would allow him to leave as a student to study in new york university. from their point of view, he's a huge headache. when you get this incident out of the country, that tends to move them out of the picture as long as they let his family go with him but keep his mother there as something of a hostage, or leverage. that conceivable is a deal that could be worked out. >> mitt romney weighed in on that story.
>> the reports are, if they are accurate, that our administration willingly communicated to chen and his family. and also probably sped up or may have sped up the process of his decision to leave the embassy. if these reports are true, this is a dark day for freedom and it's a day of shame for the obama administration. >> is this something that resinates with voters or will resinate? >> absolutely. this can come out two ways. if he stays in china under the custody of the chinese and his future is in doubt, it will be a political blow for the obama administration. if he comes out, they will get a lot of credit for that. it's so interesting how just two days ago, the president had a triumph by going to afghanistan and on the anniversary and now it's so flipped. so that suddenly he's on the knife edge of a problem that could hurt him politically.
it's not easy being president, it goes with the job, but he has to find an answer to this. he has to find a way to have mr. chen and his family come out safely. >> thank you. appreciate. it is world press freedom dadda. we asked students to submit videos. tonight the syrian regime's bloody campaign to repress anti-government protesters. it spread to a university. at least seven people were killed. details ahead. look at you and just see a policy. at aviva, we do things differently. we're bringing humanity back to life insurance. that's why only aviva rewards you with savings for getting a check-up. it's our wellness for life program, with online access to mayo clinic. see the difference at avivausa.com.
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welcome back. we've been told we have just been put back on the air in china since we have moved on from the report about chen guangcheng. we have another big story. a grand jury makes a decision in the case of a police officer who shot and killed a retired veteran. audio and videotapes of the incident have just been released. we will play them for you. you can decide for yourself and decide what happened. >> security forces in syria stormed a university early this morning. opponents say it's an attempt to clamp down on students. protests have been popped up on university campuses across syria. today a florida court denied a new trial for marissa alexander. she faces 20 years in prison for conviction of assault with a deadly weapon.
she claims self-defense on the stand your ground law when her abusive husband came after her. the court did not agree. 100 football players are suing the nfl claiming the league down played the dangers of concussions and brain injuries. the nfl claims the allegations have no merit. and anderson, look at this. lucky for this boy the lion was behind protective glass given what the child was wearing, maybe the lion mistook him for a baby zebra. i'm not sure. look at that. >> thank goodness for glass. tonight a grand jury's decision not to indict the police officer skwho and the an killed a marine. you can decide for yourself what you think if the police acted appropriately when they went to the man's door.
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officer who killed him. you'll hear and see what they saw. we have videotape recorded by mr. chamberlain's medical alert pendant. this happened last november. mr. chamberlain signalled the alert system that called police. when officers arrived, he made it clear he didn't want them coming in. >> i'm okay. >> i need to see that you're okay and we'll go. >> you leave. >> can't leave. >> i'm okay. >> all right. i need to see you. >> i'm okay. >> he said that again over and over. several more minutes of tape that he wants police to go away. his son said he feared for his life. he was holding a knife when police opened a door. they fired nonlethal bean bags
at him. we'll talk to mr. chamberlain's son shortly. first more on the tapes and the timeline and the grand jury's decision. soledad? >> the white plains district attorney said this entire incident was tragic from all sides. and i think that's fair to say. i have seen mr. chamberlain's medical records. he couldn't even walk up a flight of stairs without having respiratory issues. that's why he wore that pendant around his neck. it went off and an ambulance was dispatched. a security camera captured the police arriving there. and chamberlain is called by the medical alert company who talks to him over a speakerphone. you can e hear him telling them he's okay and he wants the police to go away. at one point he said they are going to kill me. you hear the dispatcher calling the police to tell him he doesn't need them anymore.
she also tells mr. chamberlain they are not going to go away unless he talks with them. now i want to play some video shot from a camera that's mounted on the taser gun. take a look. >> i am fine. >> i'm not going to do that. >> leave. i'm fine. >> how long does this go on for? >> it goes on for about 20 minutes. mr. chamberlain is getting agitated. the police aren't that agitated, be you hear him refusing firmly, go away. he's talking to the life alert people on the videotape. you see the police try to force their way in as well. you see that mr. chamberlain has a metal object that he brandishes through the doorway.
by now, it's partly open. police say that was a butcher knife. let's take a look. >> shoot me. >> it sounds like he's saying shoot me. do police have reason to believe he's dangerous? >> that's what he's saying. shoot me. that question is best answered by going forward to the end of the tape. they fire the taser gun. you can see him standing there. this is the portion of the tape that's going to, i think, cause a lot of discussion. we're going to look at the end of the tape one more time and in slow motion. he's standing there. he's half dressed. it's 5:00 in the morning.
you can see that only one arm is down by his side. he's yelling shoot me in this portion of the video. he's not coming at them, but he's not backing down. listen. it looks like the audio portion of this, anderson, is not playing. but it's what you heard a moment ago. he's getting more and more agitated. the police while they are calm, they have shot the bean bags at him. the taser rolled the videotape. and eventually the tape ends and the taser is shut off and that's when the officer shoots him twice. >> you have a lot more on this story tomorrow morning on "starting point." joining me now is randolph mclaughlin. he joins us by phone. you feel justice was not done today.
why? >> well, viewing the audio and the video, it's very clear that there was misconduct at minimum. even if they didn't want to say something was criminally done, there was still some sort of misconduct. >> misconduct happens. >> just using expletives, which you guys haven't played on there. using the "n" word. those things right there right from the very beginning just simply tells you that that was inappropriate of the police officers from the very beginning. and then they knocked down the door and they just immediately tired a taser at my father. why? he told you he was okay and to please go away. the door was cracked. you saw he was okay. there was no reason for you to enter his home. >> you say your father was not a threat to the police, but instead, feared for his life? >> yes. that's correct. at that time in the morning, someone banging on your door,
demanding entry into your home, of course, he's feared for his life. he was 68 years old. he suffered from a heart condition. and why would the police fire a taser at someone that has a heart condition. >> we should point out the police and d.a. have confirmed that the "n" word was used. we got the tape late we have not had the chance to isolate that portion of it. but there is confirmation that that was used. what do you make of the grand jury's decision? >> it's easier to indict a vigilante in florida than it is a cop in new york. this is a tragedy from start to finish. mr. chamberlain was in his home at 5:00 a.m. committing no crimes and threatening no one. the clip you're showing us, that clip comes at the end of almost an hour and a half confrontation where they are yelling at him, they are saying things to him, they are taunting him, they are mocking him. and this is an individual, when you read the police reports, they believed he might have been
emotionally disturbed. they did absolutely nothing to calm him down and everything to agitate him. at no point in this entire confrontation does mr. chamberlain ever leave his apartment. i have looked at the police records. the final incident shows that two police officers at least entered mr. chamberlain's apartment after this video went off. so he presented a threat to no one in his apartment. it's just like trayvon martin where zimmerman is following him around and putting the young man in fear of his life. mr. chamberlain was in fear for his life and legitimately so. >> thank you for being on. mr. chamberlain, our condolences for your loss. let's dig deeper into what obligations police had to go into that apartment. paul callland joins us. if a life alert has been
signalled, are the police under some obligation to make sure he's okay? >> most prosecutors would tell you this is a gray area as to whether the police can proceed, force their way into a home. we hear about the castle doctrine and usually you need a warrant to enter someone's home. but the police will say they were confronted with a mentally-disturbed person who is armed with a knife and they had an obligation to enter to make sure he wasn't going to hurt himself. that's probably the claim they made in front of the grand jury. >> had they taken his word he was okay, and he turned out he had a heart attack and they would have then been liable or held responsible by his family if they said the police were at his door and didn't bother to e e check on him, they left. >> i have no doubt that's something they worried about. i don't know about his medical background, but he hurt himself,
he stabbed himself, they would be subject to great criticism. so the police were in a terrible position here in trying to decide what to do. the one thing that troubles me looking at it is you did have mr. chamberlain's own family members apparently standing outside the door. it's not like they were not accompanied by family members who were in a position to say, don't worry, back off. >> also the use of the "n" word, that police were taunting him, that doesn't seem to be the right way to deal with a disturbed person. >> if that happened, it made the situation much worse and it seems to me it would put the police in a position where they would be criticized for handling the situation worongly. this goes over an extensive period of time, there are different snapshots to look at. one is did they have the right to enter at all? but once they are inside, you
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and minding one's own bees wax. he said this. >> in prime time, cnn was down to a two-year low. and that's what the silver fox, anderson cooper, is his name. silver fox. anderson cooper. i swear, that guy is reported more in gossip columns to be at the gym or that bar or restaurant than he is in the studio. i hear more stuff about anderson cooper at a bar than what he is doing in a studio. and cnn probably thinks that's great. yeah, that will help the demo. anderson doing this stuff and people will be curious and tune in and watch. it isn't working. >> i don't know if you noticed, but he spoke awhile and didn't call me a slut even one time. i'm pretty sure that means we're best friends now.
he was talking about cnn's ratings. but can we play that part again where he's reading about me in all these gossip columns? >> i swear that guy is reported more in gossip columns to be at the gym or that bar or restaurant than he is in the studio. >> so first of all, is there a place called "that bar"? i have no control about what gossip columnists write about me, but i count the number of bars i have been to in the last year. i have no interest in doing that now. but because i'm sure he cares about accuracy, i want to point out to him i have three jobs and they kind of keep me busy. i work long hours. i'm not complaining, i love it. but the idea i'm hanging out in bars and health clubs is not true. i eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner in my office. i had no idea rush limbaugh was such a gossip enthusiast. i don't believe what i read in
gossip pages. i have no idea what's true and what's not and i wouldn't spread gossip on my show about him. apparently rush limbaugh loves him some gossip columns. this is some fantastically juicy gossip. stop the presses. i do go to the gym. i'm concerned about heart disease. my dad died of it. i try to take care of myself. mr. limbaugh, i only hope you are taking care of yourself as well. you might try the gym some time. you don't have to forego other interests. most gyms have tvs, you can prop up reading material on the equipment to put like "the national inquirer" there on the elliptical and get your research done at the same time you're improving your big heart. that does it for us. we'll see you again one hour from now. piers morgan starts right now. tonight a man who change canned televis