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incidents in afghanistan from racy pictures of war to the burning of korans. we'll keep an eye on that, and we'll get that live report from the pentagon to you as well. first, a warning now to women. there's a suspected kidnapper on the move. he tried to snatch two in atlanta, and police believe he will strike again. this is what he is believed to look like. in a sketch the victims helped the police create. this man is suspected of dragging one woman at gunpoint right off her front porch and then throwing her in the trunk of his car. she escaped by clawing her way through the liner, struggling with the latch, and theb jumping out of the trunk as the car was speeding away. the would-be kidnapper struck again just about 20 minutes later. grabbing and punching a woman who was walking to her car. she escaped, and is now actually on the phone with us now, but she still fears for her safety and her life and so she does not want her name or her picture shown. first of all, how are you feeling? >> i'm feeling fine right now.
thank you. >> okay. so you are walking to your car. was this in the middle of a neighborhood, in the parking lot? then what happened? >> it was in the neighborhood by my friend's house. it's a pretty safe neighborhood in my opinion, and right before i got to my car, a car pulled up next to mine and stopped and a man got out. >> and then what? >> i started running because i immediately knew something was wrong because this wasn't a busy street. i saw he had a gun, and then he dragged me by the hair, and tried to -- and got me into the trunk. >> and what did he say? were there any words at this moment? >> he just kept telling me to get in the trunk, and i kept yelling and once i kept yelling, he kept telling me to shut up. >> so he grabbed your hair. he is holding you at gunpoint. how did you get away? >> i continued to yell and just kick and fight, and then
eventually a neighbor heard me, and they came outside, and yelled what was going on, and at that point the man stopped and i ran to the neighbor. >> and then he just got in the car and then took off? >> yes. >> okay. you say that miraculously after hearing those details that you are feeling pretty good, so you weren't scratched, bruised, nothing like that, but i imagine very much emotionally shaken? >> emotionally shaken, and i do have like a black eye, split lip, and he did try to choke me at one point. but it's all minor. >> so while you were at a friend's house, perhaps you don't have any worries that he, you know, would return or think that you might be returning to that location. that is the place that you live. do you have any concerns about your safety at this point? >> we're hoping that he will know not to return to that area considering the neighbors immediately came out not too
long after and now that there were cops all over the area. hopefully he learned his lessonon. >> and you another alleged victim assisted police in order for them to come up with to that skuch. what do you remember about him, about seeing him? >> he had a mask on when he tried to attack me, so i didn't see anything, but the neighbors who ran out saw him, so they were the main ones who assisted. >> so you weren't going to recognize him if you were to encurrent him again? >> no. that's the scary part. >> so i understand, at least according to the police report, the only real description i guess you had for him is that you would recognize his hair. >> once again, that would be the other victim. i never -- i -- once i saw him with a mask, i immediately ran. >> the mask covered his entire head, covered his hair as well? >> yes. it was a ski mask. i couldn't see anything. >> i see. okay. so now what from this point on how are you able to help in the
investigation or what do you do now from this point forward after being victimized in this way? >> i have been trying to help identify the model of the car and also just general details such as height, what he was wearing and such. >> all right. well, thanks so much for your courage for coming forward and describing what happened to you and all the best. >> thank you. >> all right. coming up next, she's it is escort at the center of the scandal involving the u.s. secret service, and today she's revealing all, and we're talking booze, flirting, sex, and what happened inside that infamous hotel in columbia. an audience, all we'll ever do is rehearse. maybe you should try every door direct mail. just select the zip codes where you want your message to be seen. print it yourself or find a local partner. and you find the customers that matter most. brilliant! clifton, show us overjoyed. no! too much! jennessa? ahh!
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>> she want $800, but it ended up costing the secret service much more than that. she is the escort at the center of the agency's scandal in columbia. she's breaking her silence about the wild knight night that turned into a wicked hangover for the men in black. trimplgts i told him to wake up and to give me the gift i asked him for, and he says no, no. just go [ bleep ]. i'm not going to pay you. and then he -- he just put out, what, 50,000 pesos for the taxi, and i was in shock in that moment we just said that. >> that spat snowballed into a scandal that could take the agency years to mop up. i want to bring in cnnespaniole who was listening to the sorted details. she seemed very at ease in describing exactly what happened. where does this investigation go from here or how does her life
now change? >> well, hi, fred. thank you for having me. i actually think that she's going to try to take advantage. i'm going to explain later why. because of this whole situation. but first of all, i want to explain to you what happened that night. what she's saying about that night. actually, she said it was a regular night. she was out just having fun with some friends, and then suddenly one friend of hers introduced her to the eight agents. they were drinking a lot of vodka, having a lot of fun. he was a lousy dancer. that's what she said. at some point they were talking about having a gift. she asked him for a gift. that she wanted a gift. the end of the day -- well, that's what i want to explain to you. at the end that gift was around $800. she was asking for some money. i think the agent was aware that it was a deal in exchange of sex, but let's listen what she said about it.
>> okay. >> translator: and i said yes, i can go out with you, but i want a little gift. i mean, i directly -- i didn't say how much. we danced and had drinks. at the time he wanted to leave, i told him well, dear, you know, you have to give me $800. that's the gift that i want so i can go with you, and he said okay, baby, let's go. >> she actually said that if she knew that the -- he was a secret agent, well, she would refuse to go with him. >> oh really? >> yeah. she said she find out the next day that he was a secret service. >> so she was with another friend aring, but then, you know, in the end we understand that there are at least a dozen involved. was this part of a group of ladies who are working together? i mean, did she explain any of that in this interview? >> yeah, yeah. actually, she said that there were around 20 -- between the
agents and her friends, and everything started because of one of her friends wanted to hook up, hook up with one of the agents. they have some sort of thing going on. not necessarily business. so she decided to go with all of them to the party, to the hotel, and everything started. she was actually working. she was asking for the money, as we can tell, but everything started just because of that, so she explained about that night diagnose going with them, but her friend was excused to start all of this. >> so now she's pretty unapologetic about it, but she's now cashing in on this in another way, right? >> yep, absolutely. she is asking, actually, right now for around $400,000 to pose nude in a magazine. i don't know if they're -- >> is there a particular magazine that's offering that, or it's just an arbitrary number? >> she didn't tell which magazine, but she is actually having an offer or trying to get that amount of money. >> wow.
>> she's got a big deal. instead of $800. big deal -- a lot of money. >> that's quite a turn, isn't it? >> okay. fern abandono, thank you so much. good to see you. >> thank you so much. thank you so much. all right, cellulite, nobody wants that one. well, 80%, by the way, of women have it. no fair. the government just signed off on a new treatment that could change everything. dr. sanjay gupta joins me live on the side effects and which it actually works, so don't be too excited just yet. [ dennis ] switch to allstate. their claim service is so good, now it's guaranteed. [ foreman ] so i can trust 'em. unlike randy. dollar for dollar, nobody $ [siri] yes, it appears to be raining. oooh...let's get tomato soup delivered.
market. we're now from cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. >> these are actually areas of fat that are protruding through the skin. more than 80% of women develop it, and they spend millions of dollars on over-the-counter creams as a temporary fix. >> i've been working out my entire life. very athletic. have been forever. used to be in the military. i still have issues. >> so she chose to get cellulaze. it's awe new fda procedure that targets cellulite from under the skin. >> there are fibers in the fat that are actually pulling the skin down, and what we're going to do is we're going to release those fibers. >> according to a small peer review study of ten women with funding by the company, with just one treatment, cellulite is gone, and the results last a year or more. the patient uses just a local
anesthetic is awake the entire time. >> you feel a little needle there. >> once numb, a laser is inserted right under the skin. >> right this moment i am melting the fat that is causing the bulges up in her skin. so, remember, cellulite has two things. it has bulges and dimples, and that's that cottage cheese appearance that everyone complains about. what i'm first doing is melting the bulges. all right. so we've done all of our green circled areas. now we're going to go after those things that are pulling down the skin. >> here's what cellulaze looks like from the inside. first the laser goes in. it melts the fat cells that cause bulges. next it cuts and vaporizes those fibers under your skin which cause the dimples, and then the laser heats the skin, which the company says allows new collagen
to form. >> this is not does something that happens overnight. you know, it's a dynamic process. i mean, and we get people who want the quick fix, and we can't deliver that. >> this can take about three months after the procedure to see the full results. but it's too soon to say just how long these results will last. >> oh, my goodness. okay. sanjay gupta joining us now. so much buzz on this new procedure. it is expensive, and there are some potential side effects with everything, right? >> yeah. i mean, like with anything, you got to weigh the risks and benefits. with cosmetic procedures, i think even more so. about $2,500 to do a single area of both legs. >> how large is that area? >> i don't know. it's a single area. like the back of the leg. start adding other areas, and you can see how the cost goes up. the biggest potential side effect or complication is a wound infection. you saw there you have to -- it's an invasive procedure, as you pointed out. tough to watch as well. a wound infection, obviously, is no small problem. those are things you have to weigh along with the costs.
>> and then do you need any of that fat? is there any potential danger from removing, you know, so much fat between your muscle and skin? >> well, it doesn't appear to be. the idea of removing fat, that concept has been around for some time, and usually it's extra fat. you know? i think the idea of cutting some of the collagen fibers you saw down. one of the things the doctors made mention of is they heat the skin to get the collagen to form again, so you don't lose the elaft of your skin. >> she gets up and walks away because it was a local stlekt, right? >> she was wide awake. >> she could have done the interview too. >> i was weak. >> you know, it's funny because the people spent a lot of money on the creams, and i thought this was interesting. a lot of the creams basically just sort of plump up the skin. they increase the blood flow, so it reduces the appearance of cellulite, but to get a more permanent fix -- >> oh, my goodness. this is likely to be popular. expensive. >> it is expensive. we have year-long data so far,
so we'll -- if you are going to spend that kind of money, you want it to last forever, presumably. >> why is it dudes don't have to worry about this? >> frankly, it has to do with poor blood flee. that's part of what makes it worse. pregnancy, for example, is a big risk factor because you're reducing blood flow or blood drainage, and that can make it worse and inactivity also associated with when you are pregnant. you know, guys can get it, but certainly not the same number as women. sorry, fred. you'll still have me back on the show still, won't you? >> good to see you. thanks so much. have a good weekend. of course, you don't want to miss your appointment with sanjay gupta this weekend. he will be here. doctor is always on call, right? sanjay gupta m.d. airing saturday, 4:30 p.m. eastern time, and on sunday 7:30 in the morning. more than 100,000 jobs were created lst month. pretty big news on that, right? well, economists say not so fast.
>> he will always be remembered as a man who fought for your right to party. adam yauch of the beastie boys is dead at the age of 47. he and his two partners michael diamond and adam horowitz brought rap to the suburbs. in 2009 yauch was diagnosed with cancer forcing the beastie boys to cancel shows and push back an album. well, last month they were inducted into the rock 'n' roll hall of fame. before yauch's death mike d said his friend want to be at that ceremony so badly. >> how is adam doing? >> he is doing -- you know, he is -- unfortunately, he couldn't be in cleveland because he has been undergoing treatment. it was just too hard for him to be there. he definitely wishes he was there, but he wrote a great
speech, so -- yeah. >> did you call him up from sitting at the taebl or anything like that? >> yeah. we -- there was e-mailing and calls going on. that was sweet. >> mca had the gift of rhyme. a prankster's spirit. he will be missed. oil prices plunge on disappointing jobs numbers. defense secretary leon pin eta says -- the latest in the soap opera trial of john edwards, time to play. reporter reulet. >> so we begin with allison costick with the lackluster jobs numbers. >> lackluster is right. 115,000 jobs were added to the economy in april. that's -- that marks the fourth month in a row that jobs at least growth of jobs has slowed down, and then you look hin the headline of that unemployment rate falling from 8.2% to 8.1%. it sounds really good, but then you kind of peel back the
curtain, and you realize it's not so good because it's not about people actually finding work. it's the direct opposite. it's people that are actually dropping out of the labor force. now, many are just frustrated, just giving up and not looking for work. look how bad it is now. less than 64% of people are working, or are out there just looking for work. that's actually the lowest level since 1981, and the problem with this low participation rate in the labor force is that it hits tax revenue really hard, so people who aren't working, aren't contributing to the tax roles. it also makes it harder to fund social security and ultimately, frederica, it hurts economic growth. >> the silver lining, oil prices plunge. why is that? >> yeah. because when things slow down, demand for oil slows down, so it's not just the job market. you see slowing down in overall economic activity. that's gdp. gdp slowed from the last three months of last year to the first three months of this year, and when the economy slows, we use less oil. then you see oil prices drop. as they did today. they plunged $4 today below $100
a bir rel. that's the lowest oil price since february. >> wow. incredible. thanks so much. allison, appreciate that. next on reporter reulet, defense secretary leon pineda telling troops to be on their best behavior. what is he expected to say? >> well, right now the defense secretary is speaking at fort benning, georgia, to a group of army soldiers about to deploy but really speaking to the entire merl force. there's been a number of these high profile incidents of misbehaving. videos showing urinating on dead troops and posing with dead bodies, and a number of incidents including koran burns that have caused problems. pineta saying that he knows the vast number of troops perform admirably, but they to stop themming, in part, that these incidents show a lack of judgment, a lack of professionalism, and a lack of
leadership on the part of some of our men and women in uniform. so the secretary basically saying cut it out, shape up when you're on duty. fred. >> is he making his rounds, going to other bases as well? >> well, he is starting at least at fort benning with his major message, but you have to tell you the commandant of the marine corps is going around to several marine corps bases, and he is very scathing in his criticism. he has issued a letter to the entire marine corps command structure pretty much saying the same thing. that this kind of behavior cannot continue, and, of course, 12 u.s. troops remain under investigation for their potential misconduct while president obama was in columbia. >> thanks so much. barbara star from the pentagon. next on reporter reulet, cnn joe johns at the john edwards trial in greensboro, north carolina. joe. >> we're at the end of the second week of the edwards trial here in greensboro, north carolina. a top advisor, peter, recounting
how he asked edwards in a 2006 meeting in new york whether he was having an affair with rielle hunter and warning edwards if he was having an affair, he should not run for president. he said edwards claimed he was not. weeks after finding out that rielle hunter was traveling with edwards, despite warnings, he recounted an angry conversation on the phone with edwards. edwards told him to back off, that he did not need a baby-sitter and he told him to go blank himself. meanwhile, brian hoffman, an interior designer and friend of wealthy edwards benefactor bunny melon wrapped up testimony. when asked what the 101 bunny thinks about the case today. he said she doesn't condemn affairs, but thinks you should pay for your girlfriend yourself. huffman also said she had no idea what the money was being used for. we knew nothing about a baby or a girlfriend. fred, back to you. >> thanks so much, joe johns. that's today's reporter reulet.
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time for the help desk where we give answers to your financial questions. we have a fertfied financial planner, and lynette, the founder of the financial advises blog ask the money coach.com. guys, thank you for coming in. lynette, question to you from rick in ohio. he wrote in that his parents are retired and ready to withdraw from their ira accounts. he wants to know should they withdraw from her roth or regular ira first? >> maybe their traditional ira first, but it really sort of depends. here's why. you know, obviously the differences between the traditional roth and the frishl ira and the roth ira is sort of
you get to take the money out tax-free on the back end with your roth, but you have to have it in there for at least five years, so i don't know exactly when the parents put the money into the traditional versus the roth, but if they did only have in t in for a couple of year, they want to make sure that they meet that criteria to be able to take it out tax-free on the back end. >> all of the taxes on those. thank you. >> greg, your question comes from tom in california. tom is 41 years old, has several mutual fund and index funds and his retirement portfolio. he wanted to know what are the risks in redirecting all the funds into dividend funds. he is basically wanting returns there. >> sounds like he has a diversified portfolio already, so i understand that the allure of doing that because dividends are although rage right now. with bonds paying only 2%, 3%, going into a stock fund that's paying 2%, 3%. however, the risk is that you take a diversified portfolio and make it undiversified. should he want to put 50% into dividend funds, that's okay, but maker the other 50% is completely diversified, so it
drew peterson is back in court. you remember drew. he is the ex-cop in illinois that's charged in the murder for a wife and police are searching for his fourth wife. this case is famous enough. actor rob lowe played peterson in a made for tv movie. >> stacy peterson, the young illinois mother who advanceished last october. >> the autopsy came back with the cause of death being accidental drowning. >> her husband drew peterson is
now considered a suspect. >> he needs to be arrested. >> any time you're under a microscope, people only want to see the negative. they knew the facts about me. they would know that there's no way that i could be involved in any crime. >> all right. joey jackson is on the case. good to see you. so this case has been on hold since july of 2010, so what happened today? >> well, what happened is two critically important things. number one is what he had to do is go back to skort and determine who the judge was going to be. why? during the course of this and since there was a delay, the actual judge retired. number two, they have to determine whether the matter is going to go forward to trial, so there's some issues as to when it could likely go. the new date is may 17th. not for trial, but for another status conference so that they can pick a trial date. >> so if they were to pick a trial date, are we talking months from that point, or even years? >> you know what, i don't think years. i think we'll see it happen relatively soon. remember, the delays have been about these hearsay statements
as to whether or not his ex-wives can testify from the grave and so it was important from a defense perspective to keep those statements out. well, an appellate court has ruled that they come in, and they said we're not going to challenge the statements anymore. he has been in jail for three years, and it's time to move forward, and i think we'll see something this summer. >> there's one ex-wife he is charged with killing, and there's a fourth wife, stacy peterson, who vanished back in 2007. what's happening with that case? >> well, right now he seems to be a person of interest, right? that's what we call our suspects, people of interest, and i think what's happening is this is there's an ongoing and active investigation. it becomes less significant if he is convicted on this, of course. the point is if he gets convicted he is going to be in jail for life anyway, so that's justice in and of itself. the case is ongoing. it's investigated. in the event that he is akwated, in this case i think we'll see a very active investigation on the fourth wife, and a potential prosecution as well.
>> all right. let's turn to another case which can i just describe as, boy, this is getting messy, isn't it? deion sanders, that divorce battle. a couple of other words that we are hearing. stormy, tumultuous. it's a war of the roses, and add this now to the latest. police in a dallas suburb are filing a new flaint complaint against the former nfl star. both sanders and his wife pilar face assault charges in their claims that each hit the other. so what is this latest charge now, joey? >> well, what happens is apparently when he was attacked, there was some phone that her friend, his wife's friend, had that was held up to his face. he took the phone, and he discarded the phone. the phone was then damaged and technically in the eyes of the law it's a crime. it's called criminal mischief. if you damage someone's property without permission and authority, you could be held accountable. it's a misdemeanor offense, and they're looking to prosecute him for that. >> you're kidding. so, in the meantime, you know, i think it really got rather ugly early in the week.
sanders was on "good morning america." take a listen to a small portion of that interview. >> trust me, and i can put this on my mama. never touched her. never did anything derogatory to her in front of the kids. never will. >> okay. so now what is being said is attorneys for her said she violated a gag order. he shouldn't have gone on the air like he did, and he shouldn't tried to reveal all that he wanted on the case. >> where does it go from here? >> exactly. there's a gag order in effort, and what does it mean? it means you zip it. don't speak about the case or any issue about the case while it's ongoing. what does he face if the judge determines he violated the gag order? it's either a fine or a jail sentence. i think a jail sentence is somewhat punitive. of course, he is going to argue, look, i wasn't speaking about the case. i was addressing the latest charges. i shouldn't have been assaulted. we'll see what the judge rules on that ash.
>> he wanted clear theary, but now he got himself into other trouble. >> thanks so much. appreciate that. >> all right. mention -- we mentioned a bit earlier that leon pineta was at fort benning. let's listen in a little bit to the defense secretary. >> that turned them -- these incidents in their favor. at the very moment that they are losing the war. so i want all of you to always remember, always remember who you are, and the great country that you serve and that we are all part of. you are part of the best fighting force on the face of the earth.
never forget that. [ applause ] >> it's greatness lies in the quality of our people. we've got great aircraft. we've got great tanks. we've got great technology. let me tell you something. it is the character and the standards that each of you bring to the battle that makes us strong. we can often be better than our word, but we can never be better than our actions. our actions speak a lot for all of us. never forget that, and never forget that you have responsibility to look after your fellow soldiers and to
represent the american people that you are sworn to defend. i know that all of you can meet this challenge. you are the best, and i have the greatest confidence in your ability to make all americans proud by demonstrating the very finest character, integrity, and judgment and willingness to fight. the bottom line is that all of us have to be willing to fight to make this country great. it's a great story that i often tell. the rabbi and the priest decided that they would get to know each other and learn about each other's religion so they went to events together. one night they went to a boxing match, and just before the bell range a boxer made the sign of the cross.
the rabbi nudged the priest and said what does that mean? the priest said it doesn't mean a damn thing if he can't fight. ladies and gentlemen, we often pray that our country will be okay and that somehow we will be able to prevail. i got to tell you, it doesn't mean a damn thing if we're not willing to fight for it. [ applause ] the hammer brigade has always been willing to fight to keep america safe, to make sure our kids have that better life, but most importantly to always make sure that we have a government of, by, and for the people. god bless you. god bless this brigade. god bless the united states of
america. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> that's the defense secretary there at fort been, georgia, talking to the men and women there asking them to uphold a standard while in uniform in representing this country anywhere they are around the world. all right. a huge development in the battle over a blind type of activist who made a dramatic escape in china. get this, is he actually coming to america. possibly. for college. so what kind of message is the u.s. setting to political prisoners? a party? [ music plays, record skips ] hi, i'm new ensure clear.
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the blind active whois gave the chinese captors the slip may come to the u.s. after all. new york university is offering him a fellowship here in the states, and it looks like china might actually let him travel here with his family to take it. it could allow both countries to save face and avowed a diplomatic catastrophe. our stan grant is in beijing, so, stan, within the last mauer, howe, cnn has received a statement from nyu. tell us what it says. >> yeah. the opportunity here for a fellowship if he is able to make it to the united states. he has a long-term relationship with a leading professor there going back many, many years. there is a connection immediately there. the big problem is getting from here to the united states. he has always said he wants this. he doesn't feel safe here
anymore. he believes threats have been made to he and his family after he fled house arrest more than a week ago to hold up inside the u.s. embassy. right now chen is inside a hospitals here in beijing receiving treatment. he is surrounded by heavy presence of chinese security, but china has opened the door just a little frederica. what they're saying is he could apply like any other chinese citizen for a passport and then seek a visa to study abroad. the united states is saying that they will then activate that as a priority. secretary of state hillary clinton who has been here for top level trade talks over the last few days, she's calling this a breakthrough. she says that this is very encouraging. there is still some way to go. china is still playing hardball with the u.s., demanding an apology for harboring chen and also saying if the u.s. wants good relations with china, it needs to watch its actions in the future to insure this type of thing doesn't happen again. >> stan, how is this being
reported in china? >> yeah. great question. you know, once this story started to break, there is an information black-out. it was not reported in state media at all. you couldn't search it on the websites either. when i spoke, many people said they had never heard of him, which is extraordinary when you think of the amazing story that's been swirling around him over the past week or so. it started to break down a little bit. there is more reporting of this now, particularly as it starts to reach conclusion. what the chinese government is trying to do is to pave the way amongst its own people to create its own spin. that spin is america and -- they're trying to spin this as a victory for china. >> fascinating stuff. stan grant, thanks so much from beijing. >> vogue magazine says month more model who's are too skinny. i'm about to speak with a former model who says this news could change the industry.
all right. "the situation room" with wolf blitzer is coming up in a matter of minutes. he has a preview. hi, wolf. >> hi, fred. i had a good chance to speak with alan gross today, the american citizen who's been in a prison in cuba now for almost 2 1/2 years. he's got a 15-year sentence or so for doing stuff the cuban government did not like. he's allowed to make one phone call from cuba. he spoke to me at phone at length. the viewers can hear from him, many of them for the first time about what's going on. that interview with alan gross, he had brought some cell phones into cuba, trying to help the
jewish community there. >> i remember that. >> got himself into deep trouble. we'll play the interview with alan gross. that's coming up. plus the day's other important news. two hours of lots of news coming up in "the situation room." >> excellent, wolf, thanks so much. and this, a sad ending to a bear story we brought to you, remember fame famous on the university of colorado campus, falling from the tree over the mattress below. well, the bear then was relocated to a wilderness area about 50 miles from boulder, and this should have ended happily, but it's not to be. colorado officials says the bear was hit by a car, and then killed early yesterday. all right. if you're too skinny or too young, forget about appearing on the pages of "vogue." the magazine putting a new ban in place. my next guest, a former model,
says it's a big move. we'll be talking to air la zi if. f, joining me live. so who ordered the cereal that can help lower cholesterol and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol. [ man 2 ] yummy. i got that wrong didn't i? [ male announcer ] want great taste and whole grain oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios.
sara ziff was discovered and started model at the tender age of 14. she's founder of the nonprofit model alliance, which works for better conditions for young women in modeling. sara, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> what did you experience that prompted you to become an advocate of better treatment for fashion models? >> well, i started working when i was 14 years old, so i have seen both the good and bad sides of the industry, and i know firsthand what young models can go through. i think that "zoe" is taking a very positive step in not hiring models under 16. >> what do you mean, what models go through? give me an example of what you consider to be quite harsh for a union 14-year-old breaking into the business or other young teens? >> sure. if you look at any other group or performer, whether it's actors or dancers, they have unions. models don't have any kind of
support like that. so not only are they minors, but they're working in an adult industry without any structural support, so there are issues, pressure to stay very skinny, obviously, that adolescent physique is tied to youth, so i think "vogue" is really addressing the thing issue, that size 0 issue. >> what do you remember hearing about the whole weight issue, about what it would take to fit into the clothes, to make sure the clothes are being showcased because your weight had to be, you know, at its lowest point or a certain size. what do you remember specifically? >> well, it's sort of a vicious cycle. everyone likes to point fingers. people, editors say the designers by cutting sample sizes to a size 0, that means the models being cast for those shows have to be a size 0.
the editors are hiring them for the magazine. so i think "vogue" is actually taking a stand and saying, you know, we need to change this. this has been going on for too long. >> perhaps the advantage for plucking very young models, if you're 14 at the time you don't have as many weight issues or worried how hard it is to stay thin if you're younger. did you feel that kind of pressure to look as youthful as possible, but at the same time kind of, you know, be a grown woman at just the tender age of 14? >> well, obviously when you're 14, 15, your body hasn't really developed yet, so you can naturally have that kind of gangly adolescent body. i think the problem with eating disorders really kicks in when kids feel they have to maintain that body type. obviously it's just unnatural to try to, you know, have the body of a 14-year-old as you're
growing up. >> okay. so now let's show this six-point plan that "vogue" has come up with. no models under the age of 16 or appear to have a eating disorder. asking casting directors to be involved. help structure mentoring programs where more mature models help guide younger girls. then, number four, encourage healthy working conditions backstage, including healthy foods and respect for privacy, and encourage designser to consider consequences of unrealistically small sample sizes, which you talked about. and then to be am bass endorse for the message of healthy body image. what do you think about those six points? >> i think it's a great start. what -- what a lot of people don't realize, though, is the models are the faces of this industry, yet they don't have a voice within it. that's what i'm working to
address through the model alliance. i think we deserve rights and protections like any other worker, and so we're trying to give models a voice. not just ban models who are too skinny or of a certain age. we're saying, hey, we deserve maximum working hours, we sdiv the right to a lunch break, we deserve to get paid for our work. a lot of people don't realize that many top designers don't actually pay models any money for their work. there are a lot of issue that is go beyond the body image stuff. i think "vogue" is really making a good start. >> sara ziff, thank you for helping to paint a picture of what can be a vicious cycle. >> thank you. that will do it for me. much more straight ahead. let's go to "the situation room" and wolf blitzer. fred, thanks very much. happening now, a disappointing new jobs report, throwing fuel on the political fire,