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here mo here. >> i think they must have rules and regulations like a tick chart. you've already had one, no more. >> it is the top of the hour. i'm ashleigh banfield. ron paul ending active campaign in hissed by for the republican nomination. the thing is, he's still going after delegates. yes, mitt romney aside, he's working the state conventions. we've got more on that in a moment. but first, for the second time in a week, tongues are wagging over an edgy magazine cover. have you seen the latest? it's "newsweek" saying president obama is the first gay president. it his the response to presiden obama's interview last week with
abc news. last week, the mom enough cover was really provocative. anyone who is living in a cave and just came out, b there was the cover there. the country was talking about this. my question for you, is this a response? were you trying to notch it up, you eknow, a bit, to try to recapture some of that interest out there between your two magazines? >> ashleigh, i don't think so, actually. what we wanted to do with this piece. we knew with andrew sullivan writing, and he's one of the chief intellectual officers with the idea that same-sex marriage is actually a conservative idea. we know that this piece would mean a great deal to andrew personally and professionally. what we were trying to do in capturing that kind of intensity in the argument, the writer was to have a column -- a cover image that would also be intense in the emotions that it evokes.
it's an allusion to toni morrison's piece. in the new yorker that bill clinton was the first black president. >> but that wasn't on the cover, as i recall. that was something that was within. it wasn't on the cover. it wasn't out there and in your face. >> no, but, you know, as you know, the new yorker covers are quite different from what a news magazine cover would be. >> let me ask you this -- it's definitely provocative. i certainly get the message. i live and breathe news every day. i understand the innuendo and the ar cain aspects to these covers and these stories. are you at least a bit concerned, the person who is busy, has kids, walks by the newsstand and is concerned that this is a gay man who has come out of the closet and is now our question. >> i don't think anyone is confused about barack obama's heterosexuality. >> they're concerned about whether he's a christian or muslim despited a nauseam
telling people he's a citizen of this country and he's a christian. they're still confused about that. why do you think it's such a silly suggestion that a magazine cover like that thinks wow, i didn't know that. >> hope, then they'll open the magazine and read the piece, i hope. >> let's hope. >> our view is that our readers are smart enough to get the reference here, that he's embraced a fundamental aspect of gay rights and, in doing so has become such a supporter that this kind of cover is understandable. >> let me play quickly a sound bite from the weekend that rand paul speaking at an event had this to say about this issue and president obama's wade into the gay marriage issue like he did last week. have a listen. >> call me simple, but i -- i wasn't sure that his views on
marriage could get any gayer. >> raucous laughter from that group. as we know, the country is pretty much split 50-50 on this issue. how is the president, do you think, likely to harness this issue and make it work for him in november or do you think the president is more likely to leave it behind him? >> i think that's a very, very good question and one that the white house is working -- and the campaign are working overtime to figure out. there's some sense this could help him among younger voters where support is high among democrats, independents, even more conservative, younger voters. and so in that sense perhaps, it ignites some of the intensity around his campaign that we saw in 20099. but then i also think that they worry about potential for a
backlash. i don't know exactly where that's going to come down either. i think they found out in the end his position continuing to evolve on this topic was an untenable one. he was going to have to sustain or answer the question sooner or later. >> i'll be fascinated to find out how the poles going forward determine where the independents stand on the gay marriage issue. good to talk to you. thanks for doing this with us. appreciate it. >> have a great day. the north carolina governor beverly perdue reacting with clear disdain to the passage of amendment 1 in her state. the voters overwhelmingly approved the amendment as defining marriage as only one man, one woman. but it's the way the governor
responded that caused the governor's reaction. >> this is wrong for north carolina. people around the country are watching us and they're really confused. folks are saying what in the world is going on in north carolina? we look like mississippi. >> well, as you can imagine, that comment went over like one big pile of mississippi mud with the governor phil bryant. the mississippi governor issuing this statement in response. i am certainly disappointed by governor perdue's statement regarding north carolina's, quote, looking like mississippi. apparently north carolina's voters are much more in line with mississippi's traditional values than those of governor perdue. meantime, alabama going whew. got a lot more news developing at this hour. roll it. 9 defense begins in earnest today in john edwards trial. but how do you soften up an image of a guy who's taken a
beating? i'm ashleigh banfield. the news starts now. iran can't sell its oil so it's reporting hording it, hiding it and sparking a cat and mouse game with the west. plus, candid behind the scenes footage of mark zuckerberg well before he became a billionaire. ♪ ♪ and the flowers and the trees all laugh when you walk by ♪
so i brought it to mike at meineke. we gave her car a free road handling check. i like free. free is good. my money. my choice. my meineke. heads rolling at jpmorgan chase. that woman, ina drew resigning today as the firm's chief investment officer. she's the first executive to fall after jpmorgan lost $2 billion in really lousy trades. drew is retiring, but smefs one of the most powerful women on wall street. also making news, the drums and the symbols are going to be very quiet for the next year at florida a&m. the school's acclaimed marching band is suspended through 2013. all of this as punishment for hazing which allegedly is what led to the death of drum major robert champion. >> i was heavily influenced by
the need to be respectful of robert champion's family. as as well as other alleged victims. a young man lost his life. >> an intense manhunt is under way in california for this man. he is a missing fbi agent who authority december scribe as suicidal and who is also possibly carrying a handgun. he's stephen ivans, 35 years old. he was last seen by his family thursday at his home in burbank. they've been using blood hounds to try to track this man in a very rugged mountain area not far from his home. and 150 law enforcement officers are out there trying to found a him. >> we do searches like this routinely, obviously. but we have special concerns given his apparent inclination to potentially commit suicide. >> there's no evidence of foul play right now, but that's why we still have a robust effort to locate him.
>> ivans is a special agent with the fbi and his specialty? national security type cases and counterterrorism, but officials won't say exactly what his caseload entailed. and a short time ago, presidential hopeful ron paul kind of calling it quits. he said he's going to end active campaigning for the white house but he is going to keep pursuing delegate the and republican state conventions. the ron paul campaign has established delegates in various. he still wants to take some of the delegates to have 5 power. her family is focusing on what they call a miracle. that amy copeland is alive and improving after she got an infection from an outing in the woods on may 1. >> the doctors are going doing
the best they can to try to save as much of her extensions or her hands as they possibly can. and literally, it's day by day or even hour by hour. >> cnn's george howell joining me now live to talk about this story. what is the worst case scenario at this point. we've all been talking about the hope they think they can save her fingers. >> you just heard andy copeland. there's a hope they can save her palm. she may be able to use a prosthetic. she eels always lost her leg, part of her abdomen. as doctors decide what needs to decide what to do next, this bacteria is causing damage. >> it's not something we hear about every day. >> it's common. it can exist in water, it can exist in chlorinated water. it's out in the natural
environment. the question at this point, where did she get this? was it out there in the woods? she was out with friends near little talapoosa river. she was out on a homemade zip line. the zip line snapped. she got a big gash on her leg. did it happen there or during her treatment. >> this is 50 miles from atlanta. >> well from what i read, it rarely occurs, but it is out there. so this is something that can happen anywhere. >> so the lesson for me, i'm out zip lining or trekking and i get a terrible injury and i happen to be near water that's remote, do i need to bring that up to my doctor? do i need to say -- she got some antibiotics but they weren't the right thing right away. >> i think it's fair to be concerned about any water, any sort of a gash that you get. it's something you want to get treated quickly. it's just the sort of thing
that's out there. but rarely occurs. >> it's just remarkable. and elizabeth cohen also says empowered patient. you're your own best advocate. george, appreciate it. so iran can't seem too sell its oil. that's the way it goes, iran. so that country has decided to horde it and hide it. and suddenly this is sparking a big old global cat and mouse game with us and the rest of the folks in the west. and guess what's happening? we're talking ghost ships. i'm not kidding. it's a little james bond so you don't want to miss this report coming up next. for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix.
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>> there are ghost ships that are lurking on either side of the strait of hormuz laidened with millions of tons of oil. let me give you a map so you can know exactly what i'm talking about. this is a very cool real time look at the vessels in the crowded, busy waterways. the green shows the cargo ships. and believe it or not, the
fuchsia are pleasure yachts. but what you don't see, iranian oil tankers loaded with crude that have set their gps to the off position, which pretty much means that ear s they're invis especially at night. cnn is our executive editor. i guess the first question would be why are the iranians putting giant ships filled with oil out in the dark in a busy passage and shutting off the gps. >> they can't sell it because of sanctions being led by the united states. what's their option? they filled up their land-based oil terminals. so now they're stacking the oil in very large cruel car yorriec.
>> so they literally have nowhere else to put their massive oil supply. they can't sell it so they're just hiding it out there somewhere? >> most is off their main oil terminal and it's just sitting there with the transponders turned off, as you said, and they are waiting to find buyers. one or two times they have sent their ships out into the ocean and found other tankers willing to offload their crude, particularly south korean and chinese beauers. >> so literally they would head out this way and sail for a solid week or so? >> week or 10 days. traditionally, iran yan oil has always gone to asia. but now under u.s. pressure, japan, south korea, even china cutting back on their iranian imports. >> i made up this term that if the iranians are sending these ghost ships filled with oil, looking for a sneaky black market buyer out in the arabian see or indian ocean, are they literally kiss poaching. like a boat will come right up to the tanker and suck the oil
off and pay half price for it? >> huge discount they're offering because credit terms are so difficult for iranian oil. they're going to find buyers wandering about the oceans, particularly southeast asia. the smaller tankers come up, literally latch themselves up and kiss poach. exactly right. >> here's what's complex for the viewer. you mentioned an insurance issue. inthe reality is people don't understand, why is this an issue now when the eu sanctions aren't even in place until july 1. they've got months to be doing this free of charge. why is it happening now? why are they in advance of the sanctions struggling to get where they need to go and sell their oil? >> they can. but companies in india are finding it hard to find the right insurance. >> you have to have insurance in order to enter a port? >> you have to have insurance because otherwise, these big tankers that cost themselves tens of millions of dollars, if
they're not insured, their operators are not going to allow them to carry that oil. it's too much of a risk. it's environmental and third party damage to very large tankers so that maybe as much as $1 million of voyage because of the amounts these ships consider. and all of the world's tanker insurance is in london at lloyd's. so eu sanctions affects that. >> so if you can't get the insurance from literally the only game in town, which is lloyd's, you're screwed. >> you're screwed. you can't get your oil moving. so the iranians are now trying to reregister ship, hire other ships in. they're looking for new markets, anything to evade sanctions. >> in the meantime, if you're one of these guys, beware of where you go in a busy passage. because there are literally these ghost ships out there. you and i have to have more monday morning coffee. >> i'll be around. >> appreciate it. a short time ago, president obama delivered his first commencement speech of this season, and not only were there
some interesting moments, but it makes it pretty clear what his week is going to be like. let's just say this. all about the ladies. and just a quick note for you as well. if you're headed out the door, you can continue to watch us on cnn from your mobile phone. also watch us from work. just need to go to cnn.com/tv. you can watch us live from your desk top, get the mobile phone app. it's very cool and you'll never be without your news. pulling us together for different reasons. music. games. photos. shows. we share stories, laugh... and truly engage. it brings us closer and that is my happy place. ♪ [ male announcer ] the best family moments happen in an instant. capture them with internet explorer and a powerful dell pc.
right. that's how we achieved voting rights. that's how we achieved worker's rights. that's how we achieved gay rights. that's how we've made this union more perfect. >> so i want to bring in jessica ye yellin. i kept hearing those two words, gay rights, but that was it. there's still ground shaking from the president's interview that he backs gay marriage. is h egoing to leave it or? is he going to continue to address it? >> i think you'll hear him as he had, to be honest, address the steps he's taken to increase the rights of gays and lesbians, repealing don't ask, don't tell, extending federal benefits. i'm told it's not going to be a standard part of his stump
speech, for example. and i wouldn't expect it to become a corner stone of the campaign unless mitt romney chooses to take him on and pick a fight on it. and if you look back at the speech mitt romney gave over the weekend at liberty university where he had a wide open opportunity to make it a big topic of discussion, romney only made gay marriage a one-line mention. he said marriage is between one man and one woman. it doesn't look like the republicans are lean into making this a fight in the campaign either. >> almost sounds, jessica, as if both sides are looking at the polls, which within the margin of error are 50-50 for or against. so it's a bit of a wash. >> let's talk about other things, yeah. >> let me ask you this. money, fundraising. the gay demographic is bigger and more powerful and richer than the wall street demographic for president obama. is there any true to that? if so, is this something that he will discuss in private at fundraisers with appropriate
audiences? >> that's an excellent point and it's something that we've been sort of reporting on since last week. one of the pressure on the president has been the movement by gay donors and gay rights activists who are major contributors to the campaign to move forward on this issue. yes. because gay donors don't necessarily have more money than wall street, but because the president has not been getting money from wall street this cycle the way he did in 2008. he was just raising huge amounts of money, tens of millions of dollars from wall street. and he's not this time around. he has to make up for it in other ways. so where? gay and lesbian donors, silicon valley and hollywood are three of the big area where he's bringing in more money this time around. but no, you can't say gay community is solely making up for wall street because there's no parity there.
i will point out, ashleigh tonight, the president is having a fundraiser at the home of a major wall street executive, but that's an unusual thing for this campaign now. >> and i notice that you don't have the white house behind you because you are in minor mall location, new york city. and you'll probably be there tomorrow when he does his taping of "the view." so it kind of feels like women's week for the president. hopefully check in with you tomorrow, jessica. each week, cnn's dr. sanjay gupta profiles inno va tors from all walks of life from every field of endeavor. this week he talked with a silver smith who won the mccarthy genius grant for his creative work. take a look. >> there's no one in the history of this country that's done what he's done. i don't mean the last 50 years. i mean the last two centuries. i think he got the prize because there's knob like him. >> i told my wife that there is
a monetary award over a period of five years of $500,000, and she said it's a joke. i hope i can thank them with my work and with my dedication. s. >> all right, so he cheated on his wife and got his mistress pregnant. then he lied about it to anyone who would listen. with an image like that, how would you like to be john edwards' defense team? how do you think you could soften up a guy like that in front of a jury? plus, news just in on the search for isabelle selas in arizona. she disappeared from her own bedroom. this new twist involves her dad. [ mechanical humming ]
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a new development in the possible kidnapping of isabelle selas. that 6-year-old sgirl vanished on april 21. now tucson police are saying her father sergio selas cannot have any contact with his two older sons, 10 and 14 years old. police say in a statement that cps, child protective services instituted certain measures to ensure the continued welfare of the selas children. it needs to be stressed that it is common practice for cps to become involved in investigations regarding missing children. sonny hostin is on the case.
that on its surface does not look good. but should we read between the lines? is this sometimes standard operating procedure? what should we make about this if anything at all? >> it certainly isn't standard operating procedure for a parent to be not given any access to that parent's biological children. i think that that's something that needs to be said. typically in cases where cps does do something like this, removes a child from a home or removes a parent from a home, that is usually due to neglect or perhaps abuse. physical, sexual or emotional abuse. and so i think if you look statistically and historically at when this type of thing happens, sure, you can perhaps glean some information from this decision by cps. i think what's also interesting is that it was sergio celis who reported that his daughter was missing. he was alone in the home with
the children at that time. and he reported at 8:00 a.m. that when he went into her room to wake her up that she wasn't there. so her mother wasn't there, the children's mother wasn't there. so i suspect that investigators and cps know something about the die national nick that household or perhaps know something about the relationship between this father and his children that we don't know about. >> just a sad mystery all around. we'll continue to watch those developments. >> i know you're a former federal prosecutor. you probably having watching this edwards case with bated breath. >> yes, i have. >> i knew it. up until now, when you follow a case, that prosecution's case just looks ugly. what do you think edwards' attorneys are going to be able to do to try to mitigate somehow how yucky this man seems to these jurors, and then what do they need to do to deal with the actual evidence that they have nnt front of them.
>> i thought this was going to be a boring case. it's about campaign finance laws, which is very, very dry. but this case has been anything but that type of case. it's been very, very salacious. it's been very entertaining at times, very sad at other times. but the prosecution, or rather the defense in this case made it very clear what their defense was going to be. that they couldn't really defend the man, the things that he did. they said sure, he behaved badly, but not criminally. i think that's what we're going to see in in defense. this is an understand precedented yao us of campaign finance laws. the federal election commission, who usually deals with these kinds of things, that agency determined that these weren't illegal campaign contributions. the department of justice's public integrity section, of
course, disagreed and that's bhie he's on trial. i think when it comes down to the law, the defense probably has the stronger hand here pop 10 seconds left. do you think there was a smoking gun in this when the prosecution wrapped snup. >> not at all. not at all. i think many of us were left thinking that was it? that's the case? >> then that's not such a bad week for the defense. and maybe they can use the time to soften up his image if that's possible. up next, a segment you got to see to believe. at colombia university, a guy mopping the floors, cleaning the toilets, all the while the students walking right on by him. and now he is one of them. a janitor, now a columbia graduate. sounds like "good will hunting" because it kind of is. the story is incredible. that's the guy right there.
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to get a free quote, call... visit a local office, or go to libertymutual.com today. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? for years, this man on your screen cleaned the toilets, popped the floors and took out the trush at columbia university. but this week, he put away the work clothes and donned a cap and gown. look at that picture. gaves me goose bumps. it took more than a decade, but he's now a graduate of the ivy league university columbia. and he joins me live now from new york. congratulations.
you must feel fantastic. >> yeah, i feel great. thank you very much for congratulating me. >> it's good to have you with us. you are from the rm toer yugoslavia, the state of montenegro and you came here in 1992 to new york. did you speak any english when you got here? >> no, i didn't speak any english when i arrived here. >> what was the first thing you did when you got to america? >> the first thing i thought i need to look for a job, any job that does not require much english or where somebody from my country who speaks my language works there and can help me and teach me what to do. so i worked for seven or eight months, i worked as a busboy in a restaurant. and at the same time, i started taking english courses. i think it was two days a week at roosevelt high school in the
bronx for free. and so -- and then after that, i learned a little bit to communicate. i learned some english. and then i thought at least for cleaning, this should be enough. and one of my teachers after i got interested which university in new york is the best. he directed me to columbia. i came and i was lucky and i got a job at columbia. that was a very clever strategy. you got the job as the janitor at columbia because you knew you wanted to study there ultimately. that was in 2000. that was 12 years ago? >> no, this was 1993 when i started working. they said they teach english also. i classes i took similar to the roosevelt high school, similar classes i took at american
language program here at columbia during my working hours. i would leave for two hours my work, i would go to class and then i would go back and make up one hour. >> ultimately, the year 2000, if i have it right, by the year 2000, you felt your english was strong enough to begin taking the college courses in columbia? >> exactly. i stopped for a while. i quit these english classes and i worked another job full time, two jobs full time both, and then for one year. but at the end of the year, i had to return in taxes some money to the government and when i said it doesn't pay off because i earn more what i pay in taxes more, i spend more, i think that way i have a lot of money. so i don't know how to save. and too much work. so i quit the other job, stayed with columbia, went back to
english classes, reached a level 10, which is the level for international students enables them to take college courses. then after i applied to school of general studies and got admitted and started in 2000. >> you must be over the moon as your classmates and professors must be as well. here you are in your cap and gown with your arms in celebration. with us today, you're still wearing your janitors uniform, because as i understand it, you just came right from work. listen, our congratulations to you. you are a terrific american story. and welcome to this country. i am glad you're with us. thank you so much. good luck to you. >> thank you. thank you very much for your attention and for having me on your channel. >> you're a blessed man. and we are more the blessed to have you walking amongst us. just a short time ago, i want to let you know, our poppy
introduction because everyone knows he's a music mogul and everybody knows what he says matters. you talked with him about a bunch of things, but specifically the whole yuch of president obama and his support of same-sex marriage. >> we did. he was in philadelphia today ni advertising a two-day festival. he is a supporter of president obama but he falls in the middle when it comes to spending, he understanding the republican argument and the democratic argument. but we talk about the -- >> i have always thought it has
something that's still holding the country back. you know what people do and in their own homes is their business. and you choose to love who you love. that's their business. it's no different than discriminating against blacks, it's discrimination, plain and simple. it's real hi not about votes, it's about people and so whether it costs him votes or not, i think it's the right thing to do. >> i will tell you that we talked about the economy in great detail. i said, look we call this a
recovery? what do you snow. >> he says this is a test of the american character, we rode high in this country amend these day we're being tested like in the great can depression. six years ago, mark zuckerberg- >> oh, boy do ever we know ow, and his facebook is about to go public, we're going to look back at this very rare interview, when this mibillionaire was no billionaire and was just a little bit nervous under the cameras.
>> reporter: it was 2006, about two years after launching facebook from his harvard dorm, a nervous and camera shy mark zuckerberg. >> excuse me can i charge that the same way? >> mark, can you just say your name and pronounce your name? >> mark zuckerberg. >> what would you like to be identified? >> owner and ceo. >> reporter: how did the company start? >> it didn't start as a company, i was a sophomore and harvard -- i never been really been asked how to company was started before. >> how did facebook start.
>> i'm a little embarrassed. >> we do the sight as sort of an inspection directory, so you're better informed about what's going on around you. >> like bill gates and steve jobs before him, mark zuckerberg is one of those rare ceos whose pioneering -- >> in private, i think mark is a pretty entertaining engaging fellow who's got a lot of friends. >> author of the best selling book "the facebook effect."
>> i think he's more private than he is in public. he would been on a stage, he would be mostly sitting at a computer coding because that's what he loves to do. >> do you see facebook as your dream job or a stepping tone to something else. >> i don't think know what my dream job would b but this is pretty cool. >> notice the newspapers on the desk. it was only six years ago, but this was prepre-iphone and pre- >> to use technology to connect people to their friends. >> i'm not bidding a company for the sake of building a company or because i think it's a good
way to make a lot of money, i think the philosophy that this company has is that you solve an important problem, and you have the ability to have a good business, but the basis of all that is solving an important problem. >> omg. dan, i couldn't believe listening to that interview and he asks how do use want to be referred? i don't know, i guess as ceo, i don't know. >> do you think that facebook is going to change the guy that mark zuckerberg has become known to be? >> he has never appeared to be concerned about money, but for the first time, facebook has to worry about whether or not they make money. i'm sure they will be working very hard that it doesn't change the experience.
>> i do know just to wrap this up, i know one wall street analyst was quite offended when he showed up for the rode show with a hoodie. >> i think there may be a few people who saw that as a sign of disrespect but he is who he is. and he saw that with steve jobs, he always wore that uniform. >> dan simon, nice to see you. we're going to toss it now to wolf blitzer who's live in the situation room. happening now, a new attack by the obama campaign targeting mitt romney in critical battleground states thinking the republican nominee is