tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN May 14, 2012 8:00pm-9:00pm EDT
tonight to hear their voices. voices the regime of bashar al assad has for 14 months tried to silence with batons and bullets and mortars and murder. these adults and children asking for change, reform, an end to disruption and discrimination. they spoke out peacefully demonstrating to towns large and small. they were met with tear gas and tanks and were met with torture. there's no more talk of peace were of reform. now they fight back. they'll not stop, they say, until bashar al assad and his regime of lies has fallen. you can see the syrian border in the distance. that is syria. that's how close we are. the syrian regime does not want us here. they refused our request for visas to enter syria as they have more many months now.
but we wanted to come so you can hear the voices they have tried to long to silence. children who have lost their parents. mothers and fathers who have seen their children shot to death in front of them. the streets are well run here. but they are miserable places. because all the people here have lost loved ones. their lives are now in limbo. for the past two days we've been visiting camps speaking with the ref jeejs. ivan watson snuck into syria today. we'll show you his report and talk to him as well. a u.n.-backed ceasefire went into effect one month ago. but it's a ceasefire in name only. every day including today, there's been more death, more violence. at least 14,000 dead in nine months according to the u.n. the opposition says it's closer to 11,000 people. so many deaths, so many arrests.
the death toll, it risks becoming meaningless. numbers on a ledger. numbers on a news ticker with no names and no faces. numbers most of you don't pay attention to anymore. the fathers and mothers and children here tonight, though, they want you to know their names. they want you to know that they are not numbers. some of them are too scared to show their faces, but many want you to see their faces, to know their loss, to understand their struggle. there's been newighting today and this weekend north of homs, an area held by the opposition. regime forces have attacked. new images from there tonight. a young girl in a yellow dress crying out in pain. a wounded young boy says he wants assad to die. as you watch the following videos, keep in mind the regime of assad says they are observing a ceasefire. the free syrian army, shelled a rocket propelled grenade. they're outgunned, outmanned.
the opposition says at least 23 government soldiers were killed today in rastan and three carriers destroyed. elsewhere in homs, a syrian tank rolls down the street. and at hama today, tanks rolled in and heavy gunfire ensued. we can't independently confirm these videos. for months there's been concern the violence will spill into neighboring countries. today we saw some of that. in tripoli fighting erupted pitting residents against each other. at least seven people were killed in lebanon. every day in syria, more syrian citizens die, more syrian citizens flee to refugee camps, more syrian citizens are wounded, arrested, disappear. even in the hospitals the injured are not safe. there's no haven anywhere. we're getting new evidence tonight from the group doctors without borders that wounded
people are still being targeted in parts of syria as are the medical workers who are trying to give them desperately needed emergency care. doctors without borders spoke with an orthopedic surgeon who said and i quote, being caught with patients is like being caught with a weapon. the wounded are treatinged in makeshift clinics. the regime looks for wounded to arrest and torture. syrian refugees have been able to find a level of safety here. they're very grateful for that. 1600 men, women, and children live here at this tent camp we've broadcasting from tonight. many of them have been here for a year. the largest refugee camp in turkey houses more than 9,000. i've been to a lot of refugee camps o efr the years. as i told you, these are some of the cleanest and best run i've seen. but they are places of misery. keep that in mind tonight. if the numbers continue to grow, so will the burden on turkey.
more than 120 syrians arrived just today. sent some help, small amounts of supplies, blankets, and tents. but the syrian refugees in these camps could use more support and certainly they could use more hope. here is a little bit of what we've seen the last two days. >> reporter: staring at the photo of his dead grandson, muhammad has no words. pictures of the dead are everywhere in these syrian refugee camps. fathers show you their dead sons on cell phones, ask you to watch grainy videos of their children's funerals. no family, it seems, has escaped syria unscathed. in a tent she now calls home, raja shows me pictures of her brothers both shot during demonstrations nearly a year ago. >> how old is he? >> 34.
>> reporter: after her brothers were killed, she fled with her parents and five other family members to this tent camp. her father abu mohammed says there's another missing. they have no idea if he's still alive. >> translator: we had young man that cried out and shouted for freedom, he says. and they were killed just for that. we just want freedom. what's wrong for asking for freedom. >> reporter: in his arms, his son's missing child. he was born after when his father was in prison, he says. we named him after his martyred uncle. no one believes they can return to syria any time soon. no one will return until bashar al assad's regime has fallen. they will hope the world takes notice. kids have begun classes, have already learned a heart breaking
lesson in the sadness of life. >> joining me live here on the syrian/turkey border ivan watson and fellow at harvard institution. professor, you've been to these camps before. the people here have great dignity. to hold their head up. but they really do feel abandoned by much of the world. >> they feel -- exactly. they use the word forsaken. the camera is a different instrument and a different creature. these people want the people to bear witness to their suffering. and the camera in a way, they have this relationship to it. they are drawn to it. because in fact, they remain convinced that should the people know about them, should the people of the world see what they have suffered, they understand they're not terrorists. they're not al qaeda. many of them were telling you, trying to convince you we have nothing to do with al qaeda. we're not terrorist groups. one man told you we don't even
have rifles in our town, let alone heavy weapons. so they want the world to understand them. and they want the world to bear witness. and i think they also see the camera as a way of holding on to the memory of this lost world, the world that is very achingly close. it's very close to here, but it is not yet retrievable to them. >> we've seen more fighting in the last couple days. you went across the border. we'll show you report later on in this hour. what is the status of the battle? it seems like neither side is able to get a victory. >> some kind of a stalemate. when the syrian army rolls in, they've got the tanks, the helicopters, the big guns. eventually they plow through and in some cases destroy everything in their path. and the rebels retreat. but when the syrian army retreats, then the people come back. it's insurgency counterinsurgency tactics. and they have lost the support of the people in broad swaths of
territory. that's the stalemate you've got. >> there had been talk about qatar and saudi arabia giving support to the opposition. the u.s. has talked about giving communications equipments to opposition fighters. have you seen that? have they said they're receiving that? >> we're hearing about trickles of equipment coming through, perhaps of weapons coming through. but for the most part the fighters say we're not getting any help. we're having to sell our own cows and our wives' gold to try to buy bullets and guns. and the cost have gone down by half over the course of the last month. i'm not quite sure why. many of them say they buy these weapons from the syrian
malitias. >> they tell you morale is low. >> no one expected this to last so long. when the syrians looked at what happened in tunisia, it took two weeks. in egypt, you were in the square. 18 days later the pharoh was gone. then pulled out of a drainage pipe. here we are. here we are in syria 14 months later and these people have no hope. and a tie will have to be broken by the international community, by nato, by outside powers. what you have here is -- what these camps tell us, this really -- this trip has taught me that bonds between the regime and the people are broken. these horror stories, the rapes, the abuse, the plunder, the burning of homes, the burning of corpses. there's nothing that remains. when the international community talks about, you know, the annan plan. this is all a fraud. this is all a fraud. and i think this is what this
trip has made clear. >> we're going to talk to senator john mccain who is calling for greater international involvement. there are many people in the united states who tire of this and say you're throwing weapons into a powder keg into a dangerous situation. we don't know fully. there may be jihadist elements amongst the rebels. what do you say? >> it's actually a great share of the blame is born by the international community which did not come to the rescue. when the cavalry did not come in, when the cavalry of the good guys of nato, cavalry of the united nations didn't come, well then people have to fend for themselves. that's it. >> we're going to have a lot more with ivan and professor ajami throughout this hour. the violence continues in syria. many are asking where is the international community? where is the united states? we'll talk to senator john mccain in a moment. he's saying where is president barack obama.
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others who have fled to other countries, lebanon and iraq. right now on the border here for this special syria deadly lies. this alleged ceasefire brokered by the united nations kofi annan, it went into effect more than a month ago. more than a thousand syrians have been killed in just the last month. it's impossible for us to confirm those numbers because the syrian regime won't let us in. and they claim it's been broken by armed terrorists. that's what they've called anybody who's spoken out against the regime for the last 14 months. armed terrorists. >> the syrian government maintains this ceasefire was broken by quote, armed terrorists. and they say the campaign of violence against them has quote, escalated since the ceasefire was to go in effect this past thursday. you deal with syrian representatives all the time.
i've had them on this program. they've said things that are not true. they've lied time and time again. do they have any credibility to you? i don't know if you can say that. >> no, they don't. >> okay. >> let's be plain. you're right. they have lied to the international community, lied to their own people. and the biggest -- bigger fabricator of the facts is assad himself. his representatives are merely doing his bidding and under probably some not insignificant personal duress. words as we have said repeatedly are meaningless. the actions are what matter and the actions thus far have continued to disappoint. >> one of the most outspoken critics of the syrian regime of the u.n. frankly and its ceasefire plan and of the obama administration's response, senator john mccain. he's visited these camps with lieberman. i spoke to senator mccain today. >> obviously the kofi annan peace plan has not led to a
ceasefire. the violence has continued this past month. last week on thursday susan rice said it's too early to call it a failure. do you agree? >> i think it's shameful. i think it's shameful to use this as an excuse for us not acting. you're on the ground. you've seen the camps. you've heard the stories of the killing, the rapes, the torture, the murder. that's a instrument of policy that bashar al assad is using to kill his fellow citizens. and somehow place any hope or reason for delay for acting on the kofi annan plan is intellectually dishonest and shameful. >> what do you want to see the united states doing? i've been getting that question for the past days. what is the u.s. doing? where is the international community? why aren't more people paying attention? what do you think the u.s. should do or the international community should do? >> first of all, lead. where's the president of the
united states? when's the last time the president of the united states talked to the american people about how terrible this situation is? and also, by the way, the fact that from a national security standpoint, a removal of bashar al assad is a huge blow to iran. but the important thing is our advocacy and belief in human rights. what they need is weapons to defend themselves. non-lethal equipment as the secretary of state and others have pledged doesn't do well against tanks and artillery. then we need to talk with our alleys about a sanctuary, a place for the government to organize where we can train and equip these forces so we can have a fair fight. remember again, we can't stop reminding people it is russian equipment and iranians that are killing people in an unfair fight. shouldn't we give them a chance to defend themselves and their freedom? and finally, i believe more
moral leadership on the part of the united states is called for. >> ambassador rice in the wake of the suicide attacks or the two bombings in damascus last week says it's already a militarized environment and pouring more weapons in is not the solution. >> well, the weapons are pouring in from the russians and the iranians against these people who started out as you know, peacefully demonstrating nearly a year ago. and you have seen the signs of it. i have warned about it. the longer this fight drags out, the more likely it is that foreign elements including al qaeda could enter the fight. i still don't believe that they could hijack the revolution, because these people are direct contradiction to al qaeda at least in their beginnings and their actions. so for us -- by the way, aren't we running out of adjectives from ambassador rice and from the secretary of state and others?
appalling, angry, unacceptable. aren't we running out of adjectives and adverbs? isn't it time we acted and stood up on behalf of these people? so it's -- you know, i used to get angry. now i just get sad. >> for 14 months now since this uprising began as you well know, the regime of bashar al assad have said these are armed terrorist groups. this is the muslim brotherhood. this is any number of jihadist elements. that has been their line repeatedly. but now in recent weeks, some intelligence officials are saying it does seem like there's evidence of foreign fighters or militant groups, the twin bombings last week in damascus. how concerned are you there might already be al qaeda elements in this operation? >> i think there are elements there. and i think there are elements of the muslim brotherhood. we have found there are
different shades of the muslim brotherhood. some of them, obviously antithetical to everything we stand for and believe in. others we can do business with. but you've got to expect these extremist elements to come in if there is not a success. but i still am convinced -- i am firmly convinced that this revolution is firmly based in what all human yearnings are all about. they are the exact opposite of al qaeda. they started out peacefully demonstrating until they were slaughtered in the streets. al qaeda believes in acts of terror to bring about changes of regime. i am confident that if these people are given a chance, that you will see them go with a lot of difficulties, but you will see them go in the right direction. and i don't fear al qaeda takeover or extremist takeover nearly as much as i fear what is occurring now.
and that is bashar al assad's success in subduing these people through systematic rape, torture, and murder. >> you were in these camps with senator lieberman. i'm curious what your answer was to people. i've had so many say to me where is the world? the world has been watching this happen, and people cannot say they didn't know about it. because we've all seen the videos even though reporters haven't been allowed in much over the last 14 months at great risk themselves, activists have uploaded videos of the killings. saying the world knows what's happening. where is the international community? i assume people said that to you as well. what do you say to the em? frankly, i'm not sure what to say. >> well, you're a journalist and you have to maintain a certain level of objectivity. although it's clear journalists have given their lives in order to bring the message out of what's going on in syria. and we honor their memories.
and we thank god there are brave people like them. all i can say is that i assure these people in the camps that i will go back and i will tell my colleagues -- i will give speeches, i will do anything that i can to motivate the world. and especially with the leadership of the united states which is sadly lacking right now to bring about some assistance to them so at least they can be in a fair fight. i promise them my commitment. frankly, i sleep a lot better having made that commitment. >> senator mccain, i appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you. >> thank you. and anderson, be safe and thank you for all you're doing. >> we're calling this special report deadly lies. and lies is a word journalists don't often use, but i think it's a word that accurately describes what this syrian regime has been telling and speaking to the world for the last 14 months.
we've had numerous diplomats on a number of times. and they said things that were not true. and we try to confront them about that. a reporter killed in homs a few monthing ago hours before she died she also in a conversation with me she also used the word lies. that's a word i know we get criticized for using from time to time. we're going to continue to use it. what the regime is telling you is happening, what they say is happening is not the truth. if the assad regime doesn't kill syrians inside the country, it's trying to murder them by mining the border with turkey before they can escape. that part of the story next. ♪ and the neighbors' kids... what does being true to yourself have to do with being healthy? everything. ♪ but you're not ♪ you're the one ♪ one, one, one, one, one
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the country, restricting their movements. why would they want the world to witness the wholesale murder it's committing against its own people? it's no surprise. it should come as no surprise the regime will stop at nothing including placing land mines on the border to inflict more harm. ivan watson has that part of the story. >> reporter: majan has a secret. here in the olive groves of turkey, just a stone's throw away from the syrian border, he's hidden away styrofoam boxes. their contents are deadly. unexploded land mines. if you put pressure on the trigger, it will explode. experts say this is a pmn-2 antipersonnel mine. probably manufactured decades ago in the solve union.
but syrian troops began transplanting these on the border earlier this winter. soon afterhajisa and several of his friends started digging the mines up. removing more than 300, he claims, in the last three months. >> nobody taught you how to pull this mine out of the ground, right? >> no. >> reporter: and this is why hajisa is risking his life to remove land mines. several weeks ago, a mine blew off lakur's right foot as he was fleeing. i protested against the syrian regime. then the forces came to try to arrest me, he says. so i tried to smuggle my family out of e country. that's what led me to this fate. many of the more than 17,000 refugees currently living in turkey have relied on smuggler's
paths to flee their country. the new mine fields have added yet another threat to an already perilo perilous journey. victims are already being treated in turkish hospitals. he and his friends have been trying to clear paths for the refugees. he is demonstrating how he's trying to dig up mines on his own. he doesn't have any equipment whatsoever or armor. and his tool of choice is a kebab skewer. this is my duty, hajisa says, the refugees must have a safe place to escape to. the young activist doesn't know what to do with the land mines he's unearthed. he hides them once again under the trees. he may be one of the bravest men you'll ever meet.
>> ivan watson joins me now. i think it tells a larger story of syria. there's so many people, they don't have training. this man is not a trained deminer. the people who have been taking youtube videos are not trained journalists. the people who have been protesting have no experience protesting. they've grown up with oppression their entire lives, yet they have been able to put this regime on its heels. despite all the experts early on saying there's no way the assad regime is going to fall. it could fall because of people like him. >> that's right. i mean, this is true grass roots activist. that's how this began. that's why it's been so hard to crush. these people are taking incredible risks. >> how's he doing? >> i saw him today. on saturday morning, mazen was going with five other men who go pick up some refugees to pick them up before dawn. as he was holding the fence
open, his cousin stepped through and suddenly an explosion came through. >> stepped on a mine. >> stepped on a mine. and a second later another mine exploded. two guys very seriously injured. the rest of the guys including mazen was injured. he's got burns and wounds on his legs. his cousin lost -- had feet amputated. and he's limping around. and he said he's determined as soon as the gets better to go back and start clearing up those mines which he thinks the syrian army planted in the last ten days. that was a route he cleared before. >> professor ajami is joining us as well. it is remarkable when you see this man with a kebab skewer poking in the ground. he feels it's his duty. >> the syrian people have crossed. this is the fundamental truth of this conflict. they cannot overthrow this regime. you made that point. it's very true. not yet. but what's remarkable is that
society like syria finally had it with this bunch of killers and they decided the regime is finished for them. we met a man, he talked to him. a man of 75 grieving for his two grandsons who were killed. we met people of property. they did not rebel because in a way they were somehow or another p prone to rebellion. that's what the story is all about. >> and yet -- i mean -- you know, we talked in the past in egypt about fear being defeated. they are no longer afraid. that's the extraordinary thing to me. we all wonder what would we do if the government was repressive and a dictator tried to rule over us. would we stand up? and these people have been tested and stood up. >> both the syrian people and the syrian rulers, bashar assad was sure what happened to his
late father did to the syrian people 30 years ago that they would never rise again. this surprised him and they found reservoirs of courage within themselves. >> we've seen that day in and day out for months. ivan snuck into syria over the weekend. pummel bid the regime's crackdown. we'll have that story next.
welcome back. we're live along the turkish/syrian border. more observers on the ground. an activist said it's not enough they're playing a cat and mouse game with them. even going door to door arresting citizens. that's next on "360." [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye-care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients.
them. silence as they continue to kill. we can't say it too many times. it's now been a full month since the so-called ceasefire went into effect. in truth it's never been anything more than just words. activists say more than a thousand syrians have been killed in this last month under this ceasefire. the number of u.n. observers inside syria tonight is approaching 200 which works out to about one observer for every 110,000 syrians. earlier i spoke to zaidoun who has repeatedly risked life to talk to us. >> there were a few dozen observers on the ground. now there's more than 150, closer to 200. has the situation changed any? >> slightly, yes. it has changed at least the shelling on some areas, especially homs, is a bit less. however, the regime is just playing games. and wherever there are observers, there's no shell.
once they leave, they begin shelling. ever since the so-called ceasefire, hundreds were killed. despite the fact that observers are here. we need maybe ten times the number the united nations council agreed. we need ten times that. >> i've heard reports from some people inside syria while the regime is relying less on heavy artillery bombardments of civilian areas and neighborhoods, they're actually going apartment to apartment arresting people, torture, and the number of arrests has increased. can you confirm that? >> every day, every hour we hear about hundreds of people are arrested. especially they are focusing right now on any activists. they are just arresting them. they are very crazy now about arresting people. >> i talked to u.s. senator john mccain who supports greater
military involvement and support of the opposition forces. we expressed concern the longer this goes on in the current stalemate it's in right now, the greater the chance of foreign fighters becoming involved, militant groups, jihadist groups, even al qaeda. there were two bombings in damascus last week. are you seeing a greater role in the opposition movement? and are you concerned about it if in fact you're seeing it? >> not at all. this is just, unfortunately, the regime's story. and some people abroad would like to believe it. right now there are no jihadists. i haven't seen any. regarding the bombings that happened last thursday, no one in syria doubts the regime who is behind it. >> do people you talk to feel abandoned by the world,
abandoned by the international community? because in past years during the war in bosnia, or during other wars, people have said we didn't know what was happening at the time. but we have all been watching for the past year what has been happening in syria. every single day we've seen the videos. we've had reporters there when they've been able to get in. do you feel forsaken? >> we are. it's not about feeling. i know we are abandoned by the world. annan's plan is wonderful. six points, really great. we are talking about trying to implement one of them. what about the rest of the five points? everybody is happy watching us being killed on daily basis. nobody cares for us. everybody knows the story. it's okay. we know now. the world is happy watching us being killed and we will do it on our own. even if it takes us ten years. we are in the streets and will not change.
we will not retreat. we will not give up. >> there's no going back? >> no way. if we go back, this is just like committing suicide. with this regime if we say stop, they will crush us. we will just stay the rest of our lives in jails. they are criminal. they have been killing us for the past 14 months. if we stop, they will crush us. this is our chance of life to get our freedom. we've been dreaming of this moment for the past years. no one can take this from us. no one. we have been dreaming of a moment where we can say what we would like to say without harming anybody. and when this moment comes, believe me, not a single one in syria would lose such a chance. >> zaidoun, thank you. stay safe. >> thank you very much, anderson. >> i think that's such a powerful phrase. this is our chance at life.
you hear that from so many people here inside syria and those here in refugee camps on the turkish side of the border. there is no going back for so many here. literally and figuratively. so many western journalists have tried to cross into syria. some have lost their lives reporting from inside syria. so many brave syrians have held up cell phone cameras to document what they've seen. over the weekend ivan watson crossed into syria. here's what we found in one town where not only is the opposition not backing down, they actually control the town. >> reporter: the journey to syria starts with a brisk walk through olive groves. you get into syria through a hole in the fence. this is a country of rich rolling farmland that's in open
revolt. in many towns the rebels are now in complete control. in one village, a rebel occupies the desk where the police chief used to sit. the rebels claim they forced out the security officers from this police station nearly two months ago. and since then, they've been using it as a mini barracks for sleeping quarters. they are also storing aid. some of which are being stored here in the prison cell. it's here that we meet fatma, a homeless mother in mourning. three of her sons were killed in recent months while defending their sons from the syrian army. a surviving son was shot in the leg. the family's now homeless. soldiers torched our house, fatma says and shot our livestock. but the syrian government's crackdown has done little to crush the locals' spirit of defiance.
at school, children burst into songs denouncing their president. even though his government still pays for their school books. classes are still in session here at schools in opposition-controlled syria. and in a bizarre twist, the teachers here who are afraid to appear on cameras, they said despite all the fighting they get their salaries every month from the syrian government. on a country road, we find a band of syrian rebels making a show of force. many of these fighters from the so-called free syrian army are defectors from the syrian security forces. >> we want freedom. our blood is less for these mountains, for freedom. our blood is cheap. >> reporter: the fighters have a prisoner. a 19-year-old boy they
intercepted as he was on his way to perform his mandatory military service. and the commander shows the documents to prove it. the prisoner gets an ultimatum. if you want your freedom, defect. the boy renounces the government and agrees to join the rebels. not so voluntary rebel recruit in a conflict that has no end in sight. >> and ivan watson joins me now. during egypt and the square, we saw different people. the muslim brotherhood played a small role. in the wake of that they've come more into power. people say look, how are the fighters? are the jihadists behind them that will come into power if they succeed? >> the guys i've seen of community groups that have risen up. a lot of defected soldiers and police. i'm hearing from activists and
the people who started the protests from the beginning. concerns that they're starting to see armed guys, criminals they're described. some of them saying we're starting to see guys questioning. that's not what we signed up for 14 months ago. that's a growing concern from some activists. >> we'll have more from the border here in a moment. we'll be right back. [ mechanical humming ] [ male announcer ] we began with the rx. ♪ then we turned the page, creating the rx hybrid.
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this tent. it's two tents put together. each is about ten feet by 15 feet. in between the two tents is the cooking area that the family uses to prepare all their meals. that's a family of eight. they lost two of their sons. i say lost. two of their sons were killed in protest. a third son has disappeared. they believe he's been arrested, but they have not gotten any word of him since last june. so many lives in limbo here. thousands of syrians living in this camp beyond the border. our special is going to continue in a moment. let's get a quick update of other headlines. susan? >> thanks. we start with this. the defense team for john edwards called its first witness today. the chief financial officer for edwards' 2008 presidential campaign. she testified that john edwards had nothing to do with reports the campaign filed with the
federal election commission. edwards violated campaign finance laws, they say, by using donations to cover up his affair. florida a & m band will be suspended through the 2012 academic year. fallout at jpmorgan chase. the firm said its chief investment officer has decided to retire. the move widely expected after the company exposed they lost $2 billion. and it is official. scott thompson was not fired. he resigned and will get no severance. but he does get to keep $7 million in stock payments he received on his hiring four months ago. a resume embellishing scandal undid thompson. back to you. >> thanks very much. more with ivan watson and professor ajami next.
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we're coming to you from the turkish/syrian border. here with ivan watson and professor ajami. your final thought? >> my final thought i want president obama to read the memoirs of bill clinton. look back on rwanda and felt the shame and guilt of having left the people of rwanda to suffer the way they did. i think president obama will reflect on the abdication of the power in syria. >> you've been covering this for 14 months. >> i think what's striking is 14 months and every friday people
come out and demonstrate and call for freedom and call for change. and the kids come out and the men and the women. and the fkt that that momentum is kept up after all this time is truly incredible. one of the sad things, we don't know what the people in the middle think. we know what the regime thinks, ma the demonstrators think. we don't know about the skard people in the middle who are afraid to talk to us who we can't reach who are watching their country torn apart. >> most of the people in these camps are sunni muslims who have had the blunt. you can hear the call to prayer right now. thank you for watching this "360." we'll see you again 10:00 p.m. eastern one hour from now again from this camp. thanks very much for watching. "piers morgan tonight" starts now. tonight the exclusive interview three years in the