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gears s romney gears up for the general election? a fresh round of angry words in syria. united states today joined seven western nations in expelling syrian diplomats in outrage over friday's massacre of 108 civilians including 49 children in this syrian village of hula. >> this weekend's massacre is a horrifying testament to this regime's depravity. this was clearly a way to demonstrate the international community's absolute disgust and horror at the actions taken by the assad regime. >> jessica yellin was among those listening as the president denounced the killing. i understand mr. carr aney sayi it's important to show the
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outrage, but president assad is not exactly shaking in his boots. what is the administration hoping to accomplish? >> they're trying to accepted a message to further isolate the regime, but they acknowledge it's really meant as a symbolic gesture and another step to reflect the international communities disgust. but they admit that this diplomatic action is going to stop the killing. >> i know it's hard, but when you see the horrifying pictures, one of the reasons that the united states and the allies went into libya is they said they wanted to stop the slaughter of innocent civilians. we've been showing pictures for 14 months of syrian civilians being slaughtered. why is it different? >> so they answered this question frequently and we still keep asking it because it's such a hard distinction to make. they say it's clear. in libya, there was a u.n. security council resolution approving intervention. the arab league was supportive
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and unified backing intervention and there was a clear and unified political opposition to support and push to topplesyrian of that. and when you talk to sources who are well informed about the situation, they acknowledge the terrain is very different and assad could resist any that i to action longer. so any ground campaign would probably last longer and that would be much harder campaign to sell to the american public right now in an election year. >> jessica yellin, thanks. so we come back to the question we've asked many times. what's the next step and when? when might the violence in syria end? stephen hadley is former white house security adviser for george w. bush. now senior adviser for the u.s. institute of peace. thank you for being here. i want to get to some of the hard stuff in a minute. one of the hard questions
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jessica yellin just mentioned. if you were sitting in the white house and watching these pictures, you would be outraged. is the legal question enough, no invitation from the arab league, no resolution from the security council, at what point does the president of the united states or prime minister of the uk or president of france have to say i don't care, i have to stop this? >> he has to be willing to do that. we went in to bosnia as you know without a u.n. security council resolution. it would be helpful to have the arab league, to have neighborhood countries on board with us because it will make effective whatever we decide to do. but the president of the united states has to make a decision about his u.s. interests. you know if you go to the u.n., you'll get russia/chinese veto, that spts an option. i think the question is what is in the interests of the united states, what do we need to do in that region. and i think the answer is becoming clear. >> is the has kemassacre enough a turning point? some say maybe they will feel more moral imperative to take to the next step.
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any reason it believe the russians will do anything significant? >> i don't think and i think its not just the massacre as terrible as the loss of life has been. it's also what's happening in that country as long as assad stays there. many people say if we intervene, it is going to cause sectarian violence to spread in the region. it's getting to the point if we don't intervene in some way there will be sectarian violence. it is descending into sectarian violence. and that sectarian violence runs the risk of put pitting sunni against syrian. so it's getting to the point that if we don't do something more decisive, it will plunge the region into instability and sectarian violence. >> and the question is what would it take. you understand the intelligence. if these sources i'm and you ta to are correct, weapons of mass destruction, people at the pentagon would say at a minimum 75,000 boots on the ground to
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secure the sites, to have reason able safety. is that right? >> boots on the ground is not the only option. what do you want to do? what we need to do is pull the killers that remain sumpporting the assad remain, and the business community, we need to pull them away from the regime. what's going to do that. we need a syrian national council and an opposition movement that is assumed by the international community, that has a cross sectarian message. i believe we need to begin arming those groups within syria that will support that cross sectarian message. and finally i think the united states is at the point where we need to prepare for some kind of intervention. that doesn't necessarily mean boots on the ground. people have talked about no-fly zones, no-drive zones, areas where the opposition could congregate and train. i think we have to prepare that. i'm reluctant to say it.
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i think we have to prepare for it. we might need it and the act of preparation, figuring out what operationally we can do, getting support in the region, may actually help tip the military, the business community and the minorities to decide we're going to go done request with assad, r be part of a new period. >> thanks so much. when the polls close in texas in a little under three hours, remember we've been talking about this for a long time. it takes 1144 to win the republican nomination. that would be delegates. governor romney enters the night just shy of 1100. we know all the other candidates have dropped out. ron paul still on the ballot. but let's assume governor romney has a decent win tonight. that's all it will take. our projection is he will end up with probably somewhere in the ballpark of almost 1200. 1195 or so. without a doubt he will cross the 1144. that will make him the
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presumptive nominee. it's not official of course until the convention in tampa, but we do know this, it is now mathematically impossible for any other candidate to win the race. so by the time you wake up tomorrow morning or go to bed late tonight, governor romney will have the 1144 plus to make him the presumptive republican nominee. so he should be celebrating. instead this day is going to be defined at least in part by this image. look at this picture. governor romney coming down the stairs of his plane. look over his shoulder. his obsession with where the president was born very, very much in the political foreground today. jim, i've covered pcampaigns fo a long time. from the basic 101, the guy that sets up the arrival shot, how could they have let that happen? >> reporter: john, that is a good question. i have to tell you, the campaign has been asked about this. and so far we're not getting a
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response. what we're being told that the point is that it was sort of a coincidence that romney's campaign plane was parked right next to donald trump's plane. you're right, the optics say that basically do that ald trump is overshadowing this campaign event that mitt romney is having here in nevada. and i asked a romney adviser earlier about this and what gives, aren't you a little disappointed in donald trump's focus on birtherism in the last several days. and what they're saying is that, look, if you look at the headlines coming out of swing states right now, the headlines are about jobs. he had an event in colorado talking about energy independence, jobs in the coal industry. so that adviser was e-mailing me press clippings talking about that issue. not talking about donald trump. so they are making the cal you calculation they believe voters will be focusing on the issue of jobs and not worried so much
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about donald trump. and they are a financial arms race with the white house. they have to get every dollar that they can. they know president obama's re-election campaign will raise somewhere between a half a billion and a billion dollars. so maybe you take it on the chin today. perhaps they weren't expecting this to blow up the way it did. but perhaps you take it on the chin a little bit, raise that money and live to fight another day. >> jim acosta on the ground for us live in las vegas. he does have economic events as well as the funds raiser. thanks so much. i talked to a romney adviser who said donald trump's image among independents are better than bid biden's. did not a coming up, donald trump answers very tough questions. >> if the state of hawaii says this is official, he was born on this date, here it is, why do you dep that? >> a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate.
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do donald trump still questions where the president was born. here he is a short time ago taking issue with wolf blitzer. >> have you seen the actual newspaper announcements within days of his birth in honolulu? for example, the honolulu star bulletin, you see the birth announcement back in 1961. >> yes, and many people did that -- >> listen to me, donald. can i ask the question? donald, you're beginning to sound a little ridiculous. >> no, you are, wolf. let me tell you something. i think you sound ridiculous. and if you'd ask me a question
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and let me answer it -- >> here another question. did the conspiracy start in 1961 when the honolulu star bulletin and the honolulu advertiser contemporaneously published announcements that he was born in hawaii? >> that's right. and many people put those announcements in because they wanted to get the benefit of being so-called born in this country. many people did it. it was something that was done by many people even if they weren't born in the country. you know it and so do i. >> so explain why -- donald, explain why -- so why did the state of hawaii authorize that live birth certificate, why did they do it? are they part of the conspiracy, as well? >> your democratic governor was the one that was really leading it. a lot of people saying where did it come from. how can he didn't show to john mccain, hillary clinton, it was only donald trump that got him to do it. so you know that and i know that. and when you say that obama doesn't mind this, obama hates
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the subject. when his publisher comes out with a statement from him made in the 1990s that he was born in kenya and that he was raised in indonesia and all of a sudden comes out, i think it's something that he didn't like at all. >> wolf blitzer with us live. actually that was polite saying you're starting to sound a little ridiculous. what do you think the point is, do you think he genuinely believes this? >> i don't know. i know donald trump, i've always had an excellent relationship with him and he's a smart businessman. i just don't understand why he conditions just let it go away. and say what john mccain says or karl rove says or mitt romney says. every major republican says they accept the fact, they agree the president of the united states was born in hawaii. let's move on, talk about the economy, talk about jobs. talk about whatever. the deficit, trade, health care, talk about the substantive issues. but he keeps doubling down and
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now i felt that he's in vegas, he's all in on this birther issue. and i just don't understand why he's doing it. >> and the timing is also interesting for the romney campaign perspective. as jim acosta just noted, yes, he needs to raise a lot of money. this is the day he makes history. he becomes the republican nominee. and this is a story at least driving the national conversation. odd to say the least. >> an amazing day for mitt romney when you think about it, a lot of us remember when the first catholic became the nominee of a major presidential party. and won the presidency in 1961. when the first african-american barack obama became the nominee of a major presidential party, won the presidency four years ago. and now for the first time in american history, a mormon is about to get that nomination. it will be official tonight. so on this special day, american history being made, i just don't understand why this is all going on. if it's simple tloi raise money,
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he can raise money in a lot of other ways. he doesn't necessarily just have to do to raise money. >> or why the donald out of respect for governor romney's moment would decline your request to do an interview today. would not have been on this morning. not today because it's a special day for governor romney. but his brain doesn't seem to work that way. >> i would have expected let's not talk about this. and i did call him up earlier in the day and i personally invited him to join me on the show. and we spoke for a few minutes. we skied -- we were talking about would he appear on camera, would it be a phone interview. i never said i wanted to talk about the birth certificate or jobs. i just said do you want to come on and preview the big fund raising event you're doing tonight and he said sure and that was that. >> fascinating conversation. i don't know what he's trying to do here, but i bet he'll do it again. thanks. in a little bit, we'll have more to say about donald trump, the birthers and the november election when we talk tonight's
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americans are not feeling very confident in the economy. consumer confidence at a five month low in may. and only about 14% of those surveyed by the conference board say business conditions are good. meanwhile home prices have hit their lowest point in a decade. the average price of a house is down 2.6% from this time last year according to a popular home price index. and at least 15 people are dead and 200 injured after a magnitude 5.8 earthquake hit northern italy this morning. some buildings collapsed, others aren't safe to re-enter. a magnitude 6 quake hit the same region nine days ago and officials say as many as 12,000 people are displaced. and a new cyber attack is invading computers in iran and other middle eastern cups. a sophisticated computer virus uses screen shots apaudio recorded with internal microphones. it can also steal dwa take from devices near the computer using
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bluetooth technology. the united nations agency has issued a warning saying national infrastructure is at risk. and finally, it was quite the asbly of vips. president obama handed out presidential medals of freedom to the first female secretary of state, former astronaut john blen, author tone any morrison and sinkger bob dylan. i bet that was some interesting conversation. >> not a bad crew to be amongst today. >> one of the cool things about being president. give out awards to people who have changed your life and changed the country. all right. still ahead here, one of president obama's fellow democrat wlos says the united states isn't doing fluff to stop the killing in syria. also a new report reveals the secret debates over which terror suspects get added to president obama's kill list. er i make sure our guests have an over the top experience. being hands on is key!
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this half hour, a has kemasi can't bes grabs the world's attention. and a new insight in how a terrorist ends up on the kill list. and donald trump brings the bbi back into the spotlight. the truth about why romney would be best to stand up to trump.
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who are guy to go see, but this is what a so-called cease fire looks like in syria. >> a bomb! >> that's new video from the weekend massacre in the syrian town of hula. as we told you, 108 died in that massacre alone. including 49 children. the united nations says it is, quote, clear that the syrian government played a role in the killing. so what's being done to stop it? one democratic member of congress says it's time for the international community to do more. much more. congressman keith ellison, co-chair of the congressional progressive caucus. thanks for being with us. define much more. under any circumstances are you comfortable with u.s. boots on the grounds in syria or short of that? >> well, what i think we should start with is to get together with turkey and the
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international community and establish safe zones for people who are trying to flee the violence of the assad regime. people, women, children, men, others have got to have a place where they can get decent medical care, where they can be safe from the bombing and the artillery. and even the assassinations of the assad regime. turkey has demonstrated an interest in helping to provide such safe zones and the united states needs to stand with them along with the rest of the international community. >> so when you talk to your friends in the obama white house, what do they say, what is their answer for not doing more immediately? >> i think the obama white house has got to get credit for doing sha some things. they talk about international partners. president obama is talking with russian leaders to see if they can gets a s assad to leave off.
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i think the world has seen promises from the assad regime broken time and time again, broken with the turks, broken with various international partners. and they simply don't mean to keep their word when they say they're not going to slaughter civilians. so i think it's time for the world to step up and stop this atrocity. our attention is drawn because of what happened in hugh larks but they've killed over 20,000 people and it doesn't stop. >> i want you to listen to the president. he rarely talks publicly about this issue. here he is when it came up at the g-8 meeting. >> we all believe that a peaceful resolution and political transition in syria is preferable. we are all deeply concerned about the violence that has taken place there and the loss of life. >> you had some complimentary
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words. you remember back during the libyan debate, some al lies didn't want the united states out front, said he was showing america leading from behind. what is he doing here, is he leading in your view? >> i think he is leading but the president i think is right to be pru prudent, to make sure every important consideration is focused on. but the people of syria need urgency. and they need the world to focus on what they're going through. you know, one of the things is that of those 108 people who were killed, 49 children, many were not killed in the artillery, but there are bullet wounds to their heads. they were assassinated. this is the kind of government that we're talking about right here. i think the president is moving in a deliberate way, but i think that he's going to weigh various things. i'm saying that the people of syria need more focused attention and they need it now. not only from president obama, but the whole world.
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russia, china and all of the allies in nato to say the time is now for the assad regime to end and for the people of syria to be able to live. >> and if you keep getting stalling tactics from russia and china for example, the security council, do you think you're trying to walk a fine line there being complimentary of the president but saying you think he needs more urgency, if the russians won't move quickly, what would you like the president to do tomorrow that he's not doing today? >> i think that he could set up a safe zone with turkey. i think that needs to happen right away. even joint chiefs of staff martin dempsey has said if the slaughter continues, there may be a need for more muscular action to take place. he did at the present timemuscu what he meant. unless we do something to change the scenario, the world may have to intervene militarily.
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i think a safe zone to indicate the world does care about them is the right answer right now. particularly when you have a country like turkey who has signaled time and time again that they're willing to provide that kind of support. but they can't do it alone. china and russia can't stop that. china and russia got their own reasons why they are stalling and dragging their feet. i'm glad the president has made strong statements. but it's time to go from isn't that a terrible thing to what are we going to do about that terrible thing. >> congressman ellison, appreciate your time and insights. turning now to broader issues. new details on president obama's hands on approach to handling the world's most wanted terrorists. the this morning times reports the president has given himself the final word in a top secret nominating process to place terror suspects on a kill list. hers chris lawrence on how the
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commander in chief decides just who to target. >> president obama is intimately involved in the discussions of suspected terrorist and the decision over who dies next. >> what technology has allowed is senior leefrds now to reach in and decide at the most tactical level. at the individual target level. >> a "new york times" story tuesday laid out that process in great detail. when it comes to ordering drone strikes against suspected terrorists, the president is getting recommendations from various national security officials. they examine the bying potentia targets and what opportunities exist to kill them. >> we discuss, we debate, with disagree. >> reporter: john brennan said drone strikes are given the go-ahead if they're fairly sure there won't be civilian casualties and it they have positive i.d. >> we only authorize a particular operation against a specific individual if we have a
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high degree of confidence that the individual being targeted is indeed the terrorist we are pursuing. >> reporter: but a senior defense official says the military can target suspects in countries like yemen even if they don't know the name of the person. same for the cia operating in pakistan. and sometimes the president overrides his own criteria. take the case of pakistani taliban leader. he was not might bely considered a threat, but he got a check mark when the white house found he was a threat to americans in pakistan. but since mehsud was home with his family, a strike wouldn't meet the criteria of no innocents killed. the official says the decision was made to go ahead and the strike killed mehsud and possibly his family. >> it is certainly the case that there are risks. they cannot be eliminated entirely. >> peter singer says there are
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two kill lists, one run by the military, the other by the cia. so there's a risk of manipulating the information. >> where you say, okay, this person didn't meet the criteria for the cia list, but the jsoc, they do make the list. >> one of the issues with having these two lists is the fact that these agencies report to different members of congress. the intelligence committee on one hand, armed services committee on the other. one official i spoke with today says a savvy would your bureaucrat could manipulate that and use to get the authorization they're looking for. >> and so when your sources talk about this strategy,s that made a difference? >> in some ways, yes. you've decimated the senior leadership of al qaeda. but on the flip side, one source i spoke with said the damage to
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the relations with some of these countries really won't be known for years. so you could be causing some damage between relations between countries that won't really bear out until well after maybe the president is out of office he also said the focus on drone strikes is taking attention away from a long term strategy, a big picture strategy of dealing with al qaeda. >> chris lawrence live for us. thanks. donald trump may help raise $2 million for mitt romney, that's valuable, but his obsession with president obama's birth place, not so much. coming up, the truth about how he might better handle the birther issue. so you see everything the way it's meant to be seen. experience life well lit, ask for transitions adaptive lenses. mary? what are you doing here? it's megan. i'm getting new insurance. marjorie, you've had a policy with us for three years.
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tonight mitt romney goes over the top mathematically clinching the republican presidential nomination. it is an important milestone. all but a few ron paul supporters have acknowledged the inevitability for weeks now. so nothing big changes. so how is the governor celebrating going over the top? a nighttime fund-raiser with the pied piper of over the top. >> a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. >> how can you say that if the -- >> you won't report it, but many do not think it was authentic. his mother was not in the hospital. there were many other things that came out. >> romney and trump are raising an estimated $2 million in vegas of course tonight and the presumptive nominee said he wasn't about to repudiate
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trump's birther talk. >> i don't agree with all the people who support me and my guess is they don't agree with everything i believe in. but i need to get 50.1% or more and i'm appreciative to have the help of a lot of good people. >> you period governor romney say a lot of good people. so one has to assume that means governor romney considers trump good people. ignoramus was a term used this week on abc. you can decide for yourself. as you do, if you haven't already, i'll borrow a few words directly from governor romney. in a statement on syria, he said there was, quote, a need for more assertive measures to end the assad areradiculopathare re. governor romney should be applauded for speaking out and offering firm details about what he would do. it's shame again to borrow his words he doesn't see the same need for assertive measures to end the birther nonsense
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espoused by trump and others. joining me to talk truth tonight, washington correspondent for the new yorker, and cnn political c contributo contributor. you're the conservative, so i'll start with you. the romney campaign, smart people, they say that we're nuts. sure, this is a distraction, but that we're overplaying it that most voters don't care about this stuff and he's going to raise $2 million and this will soon be forgotten. yes? >> most voters don't care about this stuff and this probably will soon be forgot p. but it's a day not spent talking about governor romney's issues and also an opportunity president obama made a horrible gaffe sat the medal of freedom ceremonies. he's honoring the man who brought the news to the word of polish death camps. that didn't make much american
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news. it's a huge insult. we could be talking about that, but, no, thanks to donald trump, we're talk about egg on governor romney's shoes. >> can you stop somebody from the donald? i assume the romney people whether they think this hurts them or not on the day he's clinching, i don't know why they had an event with him on the day they're clinching, but can you call the guy up and say, please, please, can you just try being quiet for 24 hours so we can have our day? >> absolutely you could. and what else you could do, you could not going las vegas and have a huge funds raiser standing right next to him because that is what's going to hurt the romney campaign. we're all talking about donald trump. but this isn't about trump. what is happening now becomes about romney. romney is exposing himself as what he is a political coward. no conviction, no spine, nothing to tell the voters whatsoever that he would have any spine to stand up to all of those leaders that he talked about and criticizing president obama. if he can't even stand up to
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doned a trump to rush limbaugh and especially to one of his supporters when she accused president obama of being treasonist, how whether he stand up to all the world leaders. >> do people look at that is this he's clinching tonight. you have to applaud his campaign. some people say it was a weak field. he got here. he won the nomination. he's not be holden to anybody but to the point where people say he's weak or she says coward. i would say cautious. >> i think when you're introducing yourself to the american people, your associations, who you hang out with, who you condemn, who you embrace, that matters. that's why reverend wright mattered to obama in 2008. 20 years ago in june, bill clinton did his famous sister souljah moment. she had said something nasty a couple weeks earlier. and bill clinton to a group of hardcore democratic supporters condemned her and she was actually at the event.
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and that's something that candidates have done as they go from the primaries to general election. they have pushed off the against the fringe of their party. maybe we're in a more polarized era now. you do anything you can to up your base and you don't care about independents. >> is there a down side if -- i want to be fair. his campaign has put out statements repeat tedly he believes president obama was born in the united states. but is there a down side for him saying i think this is ridiculous, i think mr. trump is ridiculous i could not disagree with him more when it comes to this? just to say that and then if you want to go raise money, go raise money. >> i think what he's afraid of is he has the conservative wing of his party overlooking his shoulder waiting for the moment of betrayal. because although he has worked hard to connect with them, they don't believe that he really is as radical as some of the voices in the republican party. and they have pushed him and pushed him for commitment. they've pushed him to a position on the ryan plan he did not want
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to take. they pushed him endorse a second tax cut which he doesn't want do. and he knows that they can turn on him. and he has to be careful. >> but this is a birther right. these are smart people who work for this campaign and they say trump's approval rating with independents is hire than vice president's biden's. does that matter? >> trump is a hero on fox news. and so pick a fight with trump is to pick a fight with fox news. >> here's where the problem is. this is romney introducing himself to the broader american public. all of those independents which is where this campaign is going to be won or lost, the ones that live in the suburbs, the ones who think i don't think what trump is saying is real and they see romney standing with him, and not just standing with him, but not able to disavow what he's saying. that's a problem. >> is it maybe more proof we know the obama campaign views it, that they view this 2004, it's a base election, and so if
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you worry more about your base than you do about the middle? >> that's what i was getting at the difference between '92 when there were a lot more folks in the center, two parties had different coalitions. now things purchase more about the base. and that's where romney's concern is. he got it with that clip on the airplane. he said i just need to get to 50.1. i'm not in the business of condemning people. >> and we need to remember independents are not the same as moderates. they're quite different. the fastest growing part have been disaffiliated republicans. people who are too con seven differences for the republican party. so when you hear that trump is popular among independents, that's who he's popular with and the romney cam bepaign is worri how loyal are those people to brand republican. >> a quick time-out. we'll be back. still ahead, a jail break in arkansas, two suspected murderers on the run after using hack saws to make a dramatic escape. plus regis back on it tv filling in for piers morgan to one night
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attention we once thought it did. santorum said that was where he was going to get romney. gingrich said it was where he would get romney. there is a fascinating test about the tea party. you have a more established republican going for a senate nomination. you have ted cruz. a lot of out of state conservatives. listen to rick perry when i asked him about this race. >> there's people who come from out of state and make their endorsements known. but texas conservatives are lining up behind david. >> is this a test of where the republican base is? >> it's a weird test because in any normal year ted cruz who is a very elegant attorney would seem like a perfect candidate from central casting to be an establishment guy. and the place where he has been put where he felt he had to put
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himself is an odd place for him. if he prevails this is not where he will be for his whole career. >> is it just because there is a race in texas. been around a while. is it just everybody jumping in because of the one vacancy? >> i think it is also the tea party trying to come in and basically be the ones to say we have the message and if you don't adhere to our message you will be in trouble. there is an interesting piece going on in the senate race and that is a lot of money been spent by an outside superpac against cruz how cruz sports amnesty. there is nothing in cruz's background that says he has supported amnesty. i think that can be harmful in the long run. >> are we going to learn
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something? >> i think the divisions are a little muddy. you have governor perry and mike huckabee have all endorsed this guy he can't be a left wing radical. it's not quite clear. >> out of state conservative. it is a test for governor perry. he has to decide whether he wants to run for reelection again. we'll see how it plays out tonight. kate baldwin is back with the latest news you need to know right now. >> we like to call this my little black box. some more headlines to catch you up on. this is a very interesting story. two suspected killers are on the run tonight after using a hacksaw to break out of jail. now there is a man hunt for these two. you are seeing pictures of them there. they have been missing from an arkansas jail since yesterday
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when they apparently broke out. authorities they don't know how the men slipped by a ten foot razor wire fence. jurors in the corruption trial of john edwards were lectured by the judge who warned them not to discuss the case outside of the courtroom. this is the second closed door session since friday. some observers think it raises the possibility juror behavior could be grounds for an appeal if edwards is convicted. he is accused of using campaign donations to hide his mistress. and a wildfire that has burned 21,000 acres in michigan's upper peninsula is only about 50% contained. it started last week destroying houses, campers and cabins. so far no injuries have been reported. and facebook has been losing quite a bit of friends since it went public. the shares dropped below the $30
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mark today. the initial $38 offering price for the stock valued the company at more than 100 times its current earnings. a tough day for facebook investors. >> they have had a little public relations. are you a regis fan? >> big fan. >> letterman fan? >> tonight's moment you don't want to miss. an hour. regis back on tv tonight filling in for piers morgan. his guest is none other than david letterman. regis always sees game for whatever letterman throws his way whether dressing up as shrek or playing referee or hopping on a vespa. here is a sneak peek when regis asks about how politics plays into late night comedy. >> i have been guilty of appearing to be playing partisan politics. i would like to say for the record i am a registered
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independent. you go where the material takes you. poor bill clinton no president that i'm aware of got hammered harder than bill clinton over the monica situation. we beat up on him. we still use him as a reference. and then we were desperate and thought this was so easy. and then we got george bush and within a matter of days we realize our prayers have been answered. he is just as good in terms of material. >> that's all coming up on piers morgan tonight at 9 eastern. >> you will watch. >> i will watch. those are two interesting men. equal opportunity jokester. >> i don't think they have as much fun with president obama as they did with president clinton or president bush. >> many of the comedians said they were going to be short on material but they have done a good job. >> don't want to miss that.
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we'll see you tomorrow. if you have a question for me i will be doing live interactive chat tomorrow. love to answer those questions. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. women and children executed in syria. the u.s. expels the syrian ambassador. why one country, not this one, could hold the key to stopping the blood shed. donald trump and wolf blitzer over the birther issue. >> you are beginning to sound a little ridiculous. >> you are. let me tell you something. i think you sound ridiculous. >> donald is with mitt romney tonight. will this hurt


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