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trajectory and how it entered and exited a on the gun powder and everything else and figure it out. >> we will have another update, joey jackson. >> and and thats behind the back. >> and thank you for the demo. i appreciate it like you don't know. the family has hired an attorney and they will conduct their own investigation. but in the meantime, newsroom but in the meantime, newsroom international starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome to newsroom international. i'm suzanne malveaux and we will take you around the world in 60 minutes. rebels striking at the heart of syria, and blowing up a truck outside of the country's capital. smugglers use these tunnels to run everything from guns to food into the gaza strip, but the chaos taking place right there could finally shut those tunnels down. i want to begin with the battle of the border taking place right here at home. we are talking about long lines of people showing up today outside of the consulates and the immigration rights centers all across the country.
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they are children of illegal immigrants and brought to the united states as kids. now they are getting abopportunityb to stay and work in the country for two years without worrying about being deported. this is part of president obama's immigration policy take effect today. i want to look at the qualifications here. and our cnn's miguel marquez is in los angeles where hundreds of thousands of folks are expected to jump at the chance to legalize their status. >> reporter: 23-year-old boy was brought to the u.s. from mexico when he was 11. he is one of 1.7 million young people here illegally and that is beginning today have a shot of something they never thought they would have, legal status in the u.s. >> at the beginning, it felt like a dream, and i didn't really actually believe it. >> reporter: but it is a temporary program, and only lasting two years and only those 15-31 years old need apply. each applicant will need a slew of documents the prove they entered the u.s. before the age of 16 or have been in or
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finished school and have been in the u.s. for five years. >> over here, i have my vaccination card, and some medical records. >> because this proves that -- >> i was here all along. >> reporter: and you were vaccinated so it is a record of where you were on certain days? >> yes. >> reporter: workshops teaching immigrants how the apply jam packed here at immigrant rights work group. 60,000 people have attended the workshops and they expect to help 10,000 more apply. this could have a massive impact, because the los angeles school district alone more than 200,000 students could qualify. this boy is studying computer science at the university of california at los angeles will apply with his brother and sister. this must be incredibly emotional though? >> yes, it is. it is. >> reporter: and it is emotional on all sides of the immigration debate, and when president obama announced the policy change in a high profile press conference
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two months ago it ignited a fire on tb the right including rush limbaug limbaugh. >> today, president obama went out to announce amnesty for young illegals in what some are calling a jobs program for illegals. >> reporter: the argument is to make it legal for the undocumented to work here will take jobs away from americans, and he counters that he wants to create jobs here. >> i want to establish my own business, and probably creating computer software and hopefully work for either google or microso microsoft. >> reporter: big dreams for him and a nightmare for others who fight over immigration reform on the horizon. miguel marquez is joining us live from outside of the immigration rights organization that is helping the folks with the applications, and miguel, you said that this is a dream come true for so many people here, and why is this so important for the folks that you
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are talking to? >> well, it is important because they want legal status. once they file that document today, the ones who are filing today, they will no longer face dep deportation from the country until that document is sorted out. i can show you that the line now stretches all of the way around the block now, and 300 to 400 people in line at the moment. these young women here have been showing off their diplomas all day. can we see your diploma today? yes. okay. they have brought all of the records here to prove they have been in the country illegally for years and once they do that, they can apply and it is a strict application process and costs $460, and it is not cheap, but if they can cross all of the hurdles, then they won't be deported from the country. the big question for them though is, great, i won't be deported for two years, but what happens then? that is yet to be sorted out. >> yes, miguel. i wanted to ask you, is this a process that has to happen every two years in order for them to
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stay or do we even know how this is going to play out? >> this is the sticky wicket. what people are believing here is that in the next two years, there is comprehensive immigration reform, and that the program will be expanded, but there is the possibility that it could just go away after two years and all of the people here applying today could end up in the same place they were today without legal status here, and facing deportation. >> what happens if there isn't comprehensive immigration reform here, and all of these folks have come forward with documents about who they are and where they have been and any fear that this is the government that is collecting information about people who might be worried that they now have this information now that they have come out of of the shadows? >> it is a very good point, because a lot of the people here are the kids of immigrants who are still illegally here sh, an there is a fear that the information that they give up here could implicate their
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parents, and enforcement agencies could go after the parents, but it is important for the enforcement agency to process the documents, but it is the agency that turns out visas and passports for regular americans, and they are promising them that information won't be handed over to the enforcement agencies, so they won't fear enforcement action off of this. >> and miguel, talking about 1.7 million folks who could qualify for the temporary legal status, and how many people do we expect to apply for the program? any ideas? >> well, it is very hard to say, but so far the numbers are exceed exceeding the expectations at least at this immigrant rights organization. they expect to process in the next few weeks, 10,000 people, and the statistic that i mentioned in the story earlier in the l.a. county school district alone, there may be 218,000 people who qualify for this program. in california certainly, it is going to be massive. several 100,000 people will
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apply in this state alone, so nationwide, it is expected to be over 1 million people at least. >> wow, a huge program. makes a big difference to a lot of folks there, miguel, appreciate it. in australia today, and this is a landmark and a first in the world ruling that is essentially bad news for the tobacco industry. first of all, i want you to take a look at this. if you are buying cigarettes in australia later this year, you are not going to see the marlboro man or joe camel or any colorful or flashy packaging. this is what you get. a plain green package and has the brand name of the cigarette in simple letters here, and there is a large picture showing the proven effect on your health, and lung disease, and mouth cancer and birth defects and blindness. so when this law passed the tobacco industry in australia went on a rampage and said that the new law violates the constitution, and they took the lawsuit to the high court, and today, the high court smacked down the tobacco industry, and
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said that the graphic packaging has to stay. and i want to bring in our resident aussie here michael holmes, and tell us why this is happening in australia, and why do you look at the fight against smoking, because it is bitter and graphic. >> you think that the anti-smoking lobby here is fierce, but in australia it has been that way for years. smoking is totally untorrid, and restaurants and bars and outdoor areas and government property and parks and no smoking. you have to go hideaway to smoke there. for years, there have been packages and you will see the packet of marlborough, but the photograph down the bottom of something gruesome, but this is a step further. this takes the branding off and the uniform will be the branding the same at the bottom. that is all there is. they are trying to take away and they say this is the last vestige of advertising for the
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companies and these are mini billboards, no more. >> and so explain to us the pictures we are seeing actually, because you would not know necessarily know where to go. >> that is funny, because i have been here 16 years and i was back there for a couple of weeks ago for vacation and i notice that you go there to stores that you don't see the rows of cigarettes in stores like you do here in gas stations, because they are hidden away and if so, they are behind a closed door and the guy has to go get them for you. it is like buying something illegal. >> there is a sign that says smoking is kills, and number for quit smoking before you get the s cigarette packages. why is this happening? is it a big problem in australia? >> well, they want to stamp it out, because it is a health problem in australia. >> and here the pack of cigarettes here from $4 in virginia or $10 in new york, i was stunned that a friend of mine who smokes they have
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packets of 25, and $20 a pack and most of it is tax and the government directs it to health causes, and it is a very easy way to tax, because who is going to argue, because we are taking it to give it to the health, because you are going to die or get sick with smoke. very hard to argue. >> any evidence here that this is actually working? that if you put these gross images on the packages and the warnings, and you know, if you have a craving or addicted, really? is it going to make a difference? >> well, what they are aiming for is to discourage new smokers and anyone who is going to see the stuff would say, do i want to start smoking? and it is not so much for the exist i existing smokers. the tobacco industry is saying that a lot of the young kids and the daring, hey, i'm macho and i will go get this packet with the disgusting photo on it and smoke anyway and they say it might increase the smoking rate, but most people don't think that is the case, because the smoking rates in australia been plummeting down and way down the list to industrial countries when it comes to smoking. and this is a another push.
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the reason they have fought it so hard is because australia is not the biggest is market, but new zealand and uk and others saying, with a push in canada, and india, and you start to push it around the world, and the tobacco companies are furious to lose the branding. that is how they tryied to figh it in the high court by taking the package look away, they were taking our property away. it was a removal of property, and the court said no way, and it is the highest court of the land and like going to the supreme court, and no appeal there. >> and they lost the battle there. and it is interesting to see if it catches up to other countries. no smoking. here is what we are working on in newsroom international. it is a theme park for hezbollah, and right, instead of taking the kids for a roller coaster ride or cotton candy, they learn about war and suicide bombers. >> resistance tourism is a mix of heavy vibes and finger licking fun.
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paton walsh is joining us from beirut. tell us about the explosion and who is claiming responsibility? >> well, the free syrian army, the rebel movement claimed responsibility saying they were targeting a meeting of officials in a government building near a key building targeted for the morning meeting. this blast appears to have shaken the hotel where they are staying, and no u.s. staff held. they are making it cloo er ter the u.n. was not the target, and three people were injured as a result as reported by the state media. but getting a device like that so close to the inner sanctum of the syrian regime reminding people of the attack a month ago killing four senior officials, suzanne. >> we know that the emergency relief coordinator is there in damascus, and what is that visit about? what is the assessment about? >> well, she is there to gather
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assessments of the deteriorating situation, humanitarian situation on the ground. now, she is treated recently and tried to get to duma, a city in the suburbs of damascus and turned back because of shelling and clearly a violent day of violence there in the capital, and opposition groups saying there are clashes in the various neighborhoods and claiming that the opposition fighters are managing to launch rocket-propelled grenade at the offices, and iranian embassy, and can't be verified b through are explosion occurring throughout the afternoon. as they try to use the guerrilla tactics to make sure that their hold on the regime is vital if they give that veneer of control over the country, is beginning to fade over the clashes. >> and can you tell us how they are coping there? you see the pictures of the explosions and attack from the hotel and you sigh clearly a psychological impact on people? are they going to work?
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are people going about their lives or hiding essentially in their homes or offices? >> well, speaking to a dutch journalist who works with us, and a witness to the blast, he describes a much calmer damascus than he had seen in a month earlier and less checkpoints and returning to a degree of normalcy, and the fact that the grenade could penetrate the inner sanctum, may contribute to that, but given the fact that the militants come into certain areas and the rebel movement penetrating the vital parts of the regime infrastructure there, suzanne. >> nick paton walsh, appreciate it. i want to bring in hala gorani who has been covering the region extensively, and one of the things that you said interesting that is that you reach out the syrians all of the time. you talk to them. >> right. >> and you have not been able to get a hold of too many folks there on the ground today? >> well, it has been much harder
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the last couple of days and the people i speak to in aleppo and damascus, and simple internet connection and neighborhoods have no electricity to charge their devices, because the price of fuel has gone up so much, and the electrical power cuts are so frequent in the large cities that people aren't able to buy the fuel to power generators in order to charge, you know, the electronic devices. >> so what does all of this indicate to you? >> well, it is basic day-to-day living has come to a complete halt. if you talk to people in aleppo and a ga mas kus, and what nick paton walsh said, there is some degree of normalcy in damascus and aleppo and go from one neighborhood to another neighborhood and have fighting and shelling in one neighborhood and two neighborhoods away, people are trying to go ability their lives as tense as life there is, because of the price of food is higher, and they are afraid that the fighting might
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get to them. >> what does this mean when you look at at the explosion and where it took place, because nick brought up a good point, because this is a psychologically damaging here and this is a psychological war going on and not just the fighting taking place. how are people actually dealing with something like that to happen in the heart of the capital? >> well, this has to be something that is ratotology tl the regime. because operationally wounding three people, and managing to bomb or to detonate a device of a military compound operationally perhaps is not important, but symbolically and psyc psychologically it is important, but there is not the first time, because the big hit for the rebels was killing the top security and defense officials at a meeting in the heart of damascus in july. you remember including the defense minister. so look at the regime now, suzanne. the prime minister has defected, the defense minister was killed and top military officials killed in the attack, and
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crumbling government around bashar al assad and dozens of defections and large part of the country under the control of the free syrian army. this is a regime more and more encircled, but remember, always, they have the superior firepower right now and still very much the firm backing of iran and russia, their two close allies. >> and you have breaking news, more news about what we understand what happened in the houla massacre, the largest ever in syria with women and children, and what do we know? >> well, the houla massacre was shocking event in syria over the last 17-plus months of the uprising. more than 100 civilians and 108 civilians killed and more than half of the civilians and you will see there the burials of some of those people who were killed. half of them women and children, and now the u.n. human rights counsel report which is an independent report is blaming the government and the militia, the shabiha for the massacre,
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and some of the human rights violations are authorized at the highest levels of government. why is that important? because if any of the massacres make it, or the people responsible make it to a human rights trial at the hague, this can be considered some of the research that background research you need for war crimes. >> okay. hala gorani, appreciate it as always. new cnn poll shows that americans are mixed about syria. more than 70% are concerned about the violence there, but 2/3 oppose putting u.s. boots on the ground in syria. gasoline, food, guns all comes through these tunnels from egypt to the gaza strip, but new tensions in the region could finally shut that tunnel down. touches your lips. the delightful discovery, the mid-sweetening realization that you have the house all to yourself. well, almost. the sweet reward, making a delicious choice
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in the effort to crackdown on militant attacks in sinai, egypt, is sealing off border tunnel tunnels. they are used to smuggling in goods into gaza, but the militants have been using the tunnels as well. palestinians say they are a lifeline and closing them will hurt the economy.
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and now we are joined by diana magness, and first of all the tunnels are a major source of commerce and what will happen if they do shut down the tunnels? >> well, suzanne, they have pretty much shut them down. hamas who controls the gaza strip announced shortly after the attack in the sinai that sunday before last it would close down all of the tunnels down, and on the egyptian side, the sinai side, the egyptian government says they want to bring in the bulldozers and shut the tunnels from that end, but it is like a swiss cheese underneath the ground between sinai and gaza, and there are 1,500 or 1,600 tunnels and all of them controlled by hamas who taxes the goods that come through, as you say mostly fuel, construction materials, and also weapons which of course they don't tax. household goods as well. if you go down to the markets now, people say that the prices are gone up 30% or 40%, and eid
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is coming up, the feast of ramadan and they can't afford the things that they want for their families because of the blockage. suzanne, we went down there today but it seems some nominal activity and some of the tunnels are operating, because we did see cement coming through for example. a little bit of activity. >> who would be hurt if the tunnels were shutdown, who would suffer? >> well, the people of gaza would suffer. if you think about it right now, there are only two ways for goods to come in -- through the tunnels and through the karam salon crossing, and it depends on the relations of the governments how much will be allowed through. also, the goods allowed through are much more expensive for the people from gaza compared to the
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goods in egypt that you will find from the markets so if the tunnels are shutdown, it is going to be extremely difficult for the people here. which is why the hamas is asking the egyptians to open up a rafa crossing between the gaza strip and egypt for people. and it will be a lot cheaper for the people here and it will cut israel out of the equation. >> diana magnay, thank you. and we are talking about a british bank that is accused of laundering money for the iranians, and now it is facing the consequences. change my 11am to 2. [siri] ok marty, i scheduled it for today. is that rick? where's rick? [siri] here's rick. oh, no that's not rick. now, how's the traffic headed downtown? [siri] here's the traffic. ah, it's terrible, terrible! driver, driver! cut across, cut across, we'll never make it downtown this way. i like you siri, you're going places. [siri] i'll try to remember that.
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welcome back to newsroom international and we take you around the world in 60 minutes. surprising what made its way to the number two spot on italian radio. take a listen. ♪
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[ singing in italian ] >> that is kind of funny actually and started out as a radio station promo and goes viral and okay, the song is "puccino pio" which is italy's version of "old mcdonald had a farm." it is a number one hit in italy. and now a deal struck over accusations that the bank hid $250 billion transactions with iran, and the british bank will pay $250 million to the new york state department of "financial services and to get more in depth with this, we go the richard quest in london. richard, what about this? standard charter could have lost the right to trade on wall street because of the scandal essentially, but looks like they have made amends with the new york authorities and tell us how it happened and if this is the end of it? >> well, no, it is certainly not the end of it, because there are other regulators and the feds and the department of justice
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that will be looking at it. it is difficult to know who won and who lost in the bigger picture. because this is not about the battle, but it is about the war. suzanne, now, standard, and the regulator in new york, the new regulator, mr. lazki, had said a lot of things such as rogue institution, and went for the banking license, but standard charter said it was not much and very little and had not done anything wrong. now they are paying a large amount of money, $250 billion in misdeeds, but here is the rub of it. did they settle for this to protect their banking license and because they could have got worse further down the line? in other words, do they regard a $340 million fine as simply a cost of doing business, and by and large, they have protected the reputation in the longer
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term. >> wow. that's -- that would be a strategy there. let me ask you, do they explain what they were doing by funneling money to the iranians? >> they were -- well, they were doing deals for the iranians. the iranians, and according to the prosecutor, and as to the regulator and we must assume since they have paid this large sum of money and agreed $250b, there is a sizable truth to what was being alleged. we are left with no other option, although the bank, itself, and this is back to the strategy point, the bank said in an e-mail to its staff, there are a variety of reasons why people choose to settle. and what that tells me and probably you is, listen, it is quicker to get out now and pay some money, but what we don't know is when the feds get involved, what will the federal reserve, the department of justi justice, and all of the other federal regulators, because now, the new york scrappy new regulator has basically laid a
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fist on the bank. and by doing that, the others are either looking weak for not having done it as well, slow for letting him get out of the gate first or incompetent for not being at the front. >> this is not the last we will see of this. >> oh, absolutely not. >> thank you, richard. >> we are in the millions here, we are in the millions. >> thank you, richard. prince philip, the husband of queen elizabe queen elizabeth ii is in the hospital again. buckingham palace says that the duke of di eddinberg was taken the infirmary, and he was recently fallen ill after the queen's diamond jubilee. and thou shall not steal, right? it is one of the commandments, so who would steal from the pope? this guy. it is causing a huge dust-up.
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this is a case that has rocked the vatican. apollo, a butler to the pope, will stand trial for allegedly stealing confidential documents and slipping them to an italian journalist who in turn put them in his book, the secret papers of pope benedict. and in it are internally produced documents of the vatican and suggests widespread corruption and back biting in the church, and he says that the pope was a bad manager and at times too controls. i want to go to tom rolling who is a jesuit priest, and he wrote "inside of the vatican" and thank for being with us, and the vatican tribunal is in recess until late september, so the pope's butler won't stand trial until early october. tell us what he is charged with
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here, and how embarrassing for the pope? >> well, it is embarrassing for the vatican. the butler is being charged with stealing confidential documents from the pope and giving them to a journalist. now sh now, he claims that he did this out of love for the pope, and for the church and for the good of the church. however, he also stole a check for 100,000 euros and plus a rare 16th century book, a translation of the aneid and a gold nugget that someone from lima had given to the pope. so this puts a little bit of doubt in this, in his claim that he has a deep love for the pope and the church and that is why he leaked the documents. i think that we will discover that he was paid for the documents. >> well, stealing from the pope, that takes some gumption here, and this butler was a member of the pope's inner circle and
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there are ten people who have a key to tell va tor from the vatican courtyard to the pope's apartment, and this guy is one of them. did he divulge any personal information about the pope? >> well, so far, all we have seen is documents divulged. this is a man who had constant contact with the pope. he was in and out of his apartment and doing personal things for the pope. he was kind of a gopher that would do, you know, tell him, hey w need thi hey, we need this, and go do that. that is the kind of thing to happen. and this is not first time that something has been stolen out of the pope's apartment. back in the 1970s, a technician from vatican radio stole some crosses, some gold coins and medals out of the pope's apartment. he didn't go to jail either. >> reverend, do you believe in light of the fact that the church is all about forgiveness here that the pope could pardon him from the charges? >> i'm pretty convinced that
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eventually he will be pardoned. i hope he is not pardoned until after the trial. i mean, that i think that we need the trial to get all of the information out to find out, you know, did he have accomplices? i hope they are looking at the phone records and the bank accounts, you know, his e-mail, and you know who was he just the pawn being youed by someone else? he's not the, you know, the brightest bulb in the vatican and this is a simple man. there is suspicion that there may be some other people behind all of this. >> well, the investigation continues, and we will find out just how big this scandal is. reverend thomas reece, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. and she flew back from london and not with one, not two, but three -- three gold medals. we will talk to track and field sup superstar allyson felix about what is next. with a better way., legalzp
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she went to london in search of gold and redemption and allyson felix found it and brought home three gold medals from london. she is joining us from new york. congratulations and it was so much fun and inspiring to watch you and your fellow runners as well. i loved the medals and how much does that weigh, can you tell me? it is impressive. >> it is quite a bit.
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it is weighing my neck back, and it is so good to be back. >> it is great to have you back, and it is great to see you. we were all so proud of you, and i wanted to remind the audience what you did, because you won gold in the 200 meters and also in the 4x100 and the 4x400 relays and you were the first since flo-jo, and i remember watching her, and what is next for you after you have done what is so incredible? >> well, i feel like it is not over. i still have more the accomplish, but i'm excited in the moment, and i want to enjoy it a bit. then i have my degree in elementary education and i'm on the president's council for sports and nutrition and i have a passion for getting kids active again, and that is on my to to-do list as well. >> tell us about that, because your mom is an elementary schoolteacher and you are excited and passionate about kids, and is that something that
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you would like to do? >> yes, i have in my degree in elementary education and i grew up in my mom's classroom, and that is something that i have always wanted to do. and then i am also going to be partnering up with nike to try to figure out the best way to help kids get up and active again. so it is something that i'm excited and now i have a little bit more time to spend, and really go after it. >> now, that you are not training, i assume you are not training, but taking a little bit of a break, is that right? >> yes, definitely. i want to take a break and rest up, and do a little bit of vacationing as well. >> little vacationing. where are you going now? >> i'm not sure, because i want to figure it out, but i want somewhere by the water. >> i don't blame you. this is what the gymnast gabby douglas told jay leno about the guilty pleasure after the games. listen. >> after the competition, i splurged on egg mcmuffin. >> egg mcmuffin. >> gabby, yeah, we don't
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encourage that. i am sure it was on a whole wheat mcmuffin. >> on a whole wheat bun. >> yes. >> and allyson, the first lady would not encourage that, but what would you do after you have wrapped up the come petition? >> they are one of them, and doughnuts and ben and jerry's oatmeal chunk is amazing and i'm so happy that i can't wait to get some. >> and tell us about preparing for the 2016. have you already started? >> no. you know, i'm just happy about this moment, but i am looking forward to it. i'm not sure what events i will go after or what my plan will be, but i know that i want to be ther there. >> and one of the catch phrases and it was really a beautifulf in the olympics here, this was strong is the new pretty, and a lot of people are calling this year's olympics really the olympics for the women, for the female athletes and did you feel something special or unique about what you and the other women did so remarkably well?
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>> definitely. it was so powerful to be a part of and i thought about the little girls at home, and hopefully we could inspire them. i remember when i was little watching dominique dawes in gymnastics and wanting to do it. they may not be a runner or swimmer or whatever, but it is what they want to be go after t and feel empowered to do that. >> it is hard when you are a kid to feel powerful and you talk about the childhood and young kids and we had read that some of your school matt s -- mate called you chicken legs but you are leg pressing 700 pounds and what do you say to the little girls or anybody out there who is not confident and doesn't really know the way yet, what do you say to them? >> keep after it. you know, really find out what you are good at and passionate about, and dive into it. it may take a little while to figure out, but that is okay. explore it, and eventually, you
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will find it. >> all right. allyson, such a pleasure and allyson felix, congratulations and you make us all proud, and it is a message we will all take. >> thank you. and it is like a theme park, but it is for hezbollah and instead of carousels and bumper cars, this park is full of tanks and guns and propaganda, and we will take an inside look. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you
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this is strange. a family-friendly theme park in lebanon puts visitors inside of the history of the group that the united states considers a terrorist organization, hezbollah. they call it resistance tourism, and it is a war museum that critics say tries to recruit muslim extremists and suicide bombers. just watch. >> reporter: hezbollah's latest p.r. offensive is a massive theme park that is built on top
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of one of their mountaintop strongholds. they wanted the story to the people without the governments calling them terrorists along the way. >> if it is not exploding, it is cool looking. >> reporter: it seems to attract a wide range of tourists. ladies from europe, loving couples, and of course, kids. >> hezbollah! >> it does actually have to be pretty rad as a little kid to be walking through a museum experience and not seeing like replica dinosaurs, but real life rockets. like, that would stoke me out as a kid. >> reporter: kids also get a chance to learn about the greatest honor for a hezbollah fighter, killing themselves. >> now, that would not have made me stoked as a kid, but freaked me out. they might want to leave that one off of the children e's par of the tour. resistance tourism is a mix of heavy vibes and finger-licking fun. >> ryan duffy is with us now
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live in new york, and he is a lead correspondent with vice which is a online source for cultural and news reporting. ryan, it is strange to watch this and see it and talk about the resistance tourism here, and how did you find out this existed? >> well, it is an interesting thing that has been trumpeted by hezbollah has an introductory course into their mission and what they are about. so, they are actually quite proud about it, and it's quite p public. >> is there anything that you found very disturbing when you walked through this park? >> well, the whole thing is really actually quite surreal, because you are walking through what is essentially a theme park environment, and you know, my reference points as an american are disney world, and what, but you are seeing the israeli helmets and boots and the famed
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and thek that has been rendered impotent by the taking of the cannon and actually turning it in on itself. so the whole thing is that it is quite surreal. >> who is this actually geared for do you suppose? is this a recruiting tool for those who want to join hezbollah or a public relations kind of thing? >> well, it is an interesting question, because hezbollah has gained a lot of ground in terms of its p.r. strategy, really. so, i think that in terms of its p public facing message and what they are about, i think that this theme park actually goes a long ways towards humanizing their mission and making it seem a little bit more gentle than it would be otherwise. >> i would imagine that there is a lot of pushback here and controversy considering that this is considered a terrorist organization by our country, and you had a tour guide walking you through and did you push him or
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challenge him or say, hey, you know, some of the tactics and the suicide bombings and things like this, this kills people and there are innocent victims on the other side? >> well, it is a very good point. and rami, our tour guide, who is a really nice guy was delicate around the subject. he was showing us, showing us around and really descriptive an informative, but when it was questions of where does the funding come from, and what is the association with iran and syria and so far, he kind of had a very diplomatic way around of answering those questions dead-on. >> yes, i can imagine so. as an american, you didn't have a problem though however actually getting into the hezbollah theme park. and that was not an issue for them, right? >> we didn't have a problem getting in, but i personally was concerned with purchasing any goods. there was a gift shop at the end as there is in all theme parks,
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a gift shop by the exit and we stopped by the gift shop and it did occur to me that possibly those transactions would have been viewed in ill repute from the u.s. government. so stopped short of buying any hezbollah replica weapons and all of that stuff. ryan, we have the leave it there, and fascinating piece. appreciate it as always. independence day in india and we will show you how they are celebrating with their neighbors in pakistan. where to go for extra help, how to live better with the disease. so many questions, where do you start? alzheimers.gov. the answers start here. [ male announcer ] start with a simple idea. think. drink coffee. design something totally original. do it again. that's good. call in the engineers. call in the car guys. call in the nerds. build a prototype.
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