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a private event to be private in a public setting. >> that's an expectation that i don't believe he is entitled, to and the law is not going to go after somebody in that situation. compare to the broadway show thaw walk in. that's a private showing where you buy a ticket. >> yes or no, not like to see any charges? >> i don't think so. >> it's always good to see you. will you come back? >> yes. absolutely. >> i knew she would say so. i'm so glad. that's all the time we have. thank you for being with us on this program. stay tuned right now for "newsroom international." welcome to the newsroom international. i'm frederica witfield in for susan malveaux, and we're taking you around the world in 60 minutes. here's what's going on. a chaotic scene outside the embassy in beijing. u.s. ambassador gary lock was surrounded by protesters. they have been demonstrating outside the japanese embassy next door demanding that japan
relinquish control of an island chain claimed by china in the waters between the two countries. some of the protesters moved into the street blocking ambassador lock's car. some threw bottles. chinese police and military forces pushed the demonstrators back. the ambassador was not hurt. turkish media says syrian opposition fighters took control of a border crossing at the syrian-turkish line. rebels have been trying to secure border crossings to create safe havens near turkey, a country sympathetic to the syrian opposition movement. workers at a platinum mine in south africa have ended their labor strike. the deal comes after protests left 45 people dead. the miners accepted an agreement that will boost pay as much as 22%. a spokesman for the mine company called it groundbreaking, and workers say they're happy. >> yeah. no, no, no.
the solution is coming. yeah. >> we have something. half is better than nothing. >> a french magazine is the latest target of muslim anger over depictions of the prophet mohammed. the satirical magazine published cartoons today featuring a figure resembling the prophet. the french muslim council calls the cartoons insulting. it follows a week of deadly protests over an anti-muslim video prugsd here in the u.s. the cartoons threaten to add to an already tense situation. jim bitterman is following the developments from paris. what is the magazine saying about why it published the cartoons and what it hopes to actually accomplish? >> reporter: well, the magazine is based on outrage. basically it comes up every week, and it tries to satirize the news of the previous week, and the news of the previous
week was dominated by the protests against that u.s. video, so it was satireizing the reaction in the muslim world through to the u.s. video, and as a consequence has crossed a line, at least as far as the islamic community. the magazine doesn't see it that way. they say it's just what they normally do, and you don't have to buy it if you don't want to. this is what the cartoon -- one of the cartoonists that work for the magazine who, by the way, is under 24-7 constant protective surveillance because he has been threatened over the months since an attack on the magazine back in november. in any case, that's what a cartoonist told us a little earlier today. >> and so, jim, you know, while the cartoonist is now under surveillance, what about the publication in and of itself? what kind of precautions or protections are being offered for that publication just to keep things under control? just in case. >> reporter: well, the police -- there already was some security
around the cartoonist -- the cartoon building where the magazine is published, and that security has been stepped up overnight because the publication this morning. there's been other security measures taken by the french government because they are worried about reaction, clearly, around the world. they have asked the french embassies and schools to be closed on friday, and in 20 different countries, and they'll stay closed until at least monday, and the idea is that there could be problems. they've also told french citizens abroad to avoid crowds and they turned to the security folks both in the embassies and in the governments where the embassies are located saying, look, your job is to protect the embassies, so be on the lookout and don't let anything untoward happen, but clearly they are worried about something developing, and one thing is sort of related but not related, and that is that on saturday some of the protesters here were planning a demonstration against the u.s. embassy here because of the video, last week's video, and, in fact, the government has
said that protest cannot take place. they've forbidden it to take place. >> jim bitterman, thanks so much, from paris. let's go to asia. street protests in beijing took a frightening turn for the u.s. ambassador to china. gary locke's car was stick arounded by dozens of protesters outraged over a did yous putin over islands. stan grant is in beijing. >> reporter: the incident plays out right in front of the u.s. embassy. that's just around the corner from the japanese embassy, the site of wide scale protests in recent days. you can see a small group of chinese protesters carrying chinese flags, police are moving along side of them, and they move in front of the embassy. you can also see chinese military appear on the scene as well. this video appears to have been shot from a high vantage point just in front of the embassy. then we see the ambassador's car coming to view. now, the protesters move forward
and surround the vehicle, blocking its path. at that point the police move in trying to disburse the protesters. now, this goes on for several minutes until one of the protesters tries to grab ahold of the u.s. flag on the front of the car. there's some pushing and shoving. very soon after you see projectiles, including bottles being hurled at the car itself. this whole incident plays out over several minutes until finally you see the chinese military also coming into the picture trying to force the protesters away. now, the whole incident has been addressed by the foreign ministry here in china. they concede that an incident did take place. they're playing it down. >> translator: the chinese government has always abided by the convention to protect the safety of foreign institutions and personnel in china. the relevant incident was merely an isolated case. relevant chinese authorities are
investigating and will have a result properly. >> reporter: the ambassador gary locke has been unharmed and the incident eventually passed, but this just shows how tense china is at the moment over this islands dispute involving japan and china. it seems some japanese businesses having to close their operations for several days, concerned about the safety of japanese people inside china, but it's also now put the united states front and center. the defense minister leon panetta has been in beijing for top level talks trying to reassure china that the united states is staying neutral on this dispute and wants to see it negotiated calmly. right now, of course, with the u.s. involved in this, this just goes to show how tense this situation is coming particularly at a time when china is now emerging as a hot button issue in the u.s. presidential election. stan grant, cnn, beijing. as stan just mentioned
defense secretary leon panetta is talking to chinese leaders about those tensions riszing in asia. today he met with china's vice president in beijing. let's bring in cnn's michael holmes right now. this is a very difficult situation because you're talking about the u.s. military ally is japan, trade ally is china. how is leon panetta managing juggling all of this today? >> very carefully, i think, you could say. it's a real balancing act. you know, he is having to appear not to take sides. saying outright that the u.s. is not taking sides in this issue, while at the same time trying to calm the rhetoric of which there has been much. you know, japanese-chinese tensions are often there. they're historical. they go back to invasions in world war ii and the rest. panetta does not want this to spiral out of control. a lot of people are worried that, you know, if somebody gets a hair trigger, this could actually lead to some sort of conflict on some level, and the u.s. doesn't want to get dragged into that, so it's a very difficult position for them to
be in. >> what is the position of china? what is their contention about these disputed islands? it's in the china sea, but what is it that they're claiming they know they have the right to? >> well, as i say, it goes back historically. japan claims that they've had them sense the late 1800s and that they've always been japanese territory since that time. the chinese say that they're theirs. it's complicated, again. the u.s. gets involved again here because when u.s. was occupying japan at the end of that when we gave everything back to japan and formally left, we actually ceded those islands back to japan in a formal sense. china doesn't agree with it. you've got oil and natural gas reserves there. it's not so much about the island, but about the seas around them and what's under that. all of that part of natural gas. there's just a territorial issue here. the other thing the u.s. is facing in a moment is china being worried about growing u.s. influence in the region. part of what mr. panetta was doing in japan was unveiling
another missile radar defense system set up, second one, on japanese soil. the u.s. has been strategically repositioning itself into the asia-pacific region. more troops and more, you know, sort of naval activity there. china doesn't like that. mr. panetta has been saying, hey, it's not about you. no threat to you. china saying, you know, we're a bit concerned about it. >> what about china's vice president? what's been his role? you know, he was missing for a while. then he kind of reappeared. but then it's also presumed by many that he might be the next president of china. >> in fact, he is likely to be. yes, there's a mysterious disappearance that, we discussed on the program a few days wrashg when someone just disapdz every the rumor mill in china just goes nuts. it was thought he had cancer. that he had ae heart attack. that he had fallen out of favor and was for longer going to get the top job. then all of a sudden he pops up again and everything seems fine. mr. pan et ceteraa says -- i
think he says frankly my impression was that he was very healthy and very engaged. the theory now according to one important source is he hurt his back swimming and was undergoing rest. you would think they would tell the people that since they pay -- >> a lot of secrecy. >> lots of secrecy. yes. >> a little respite sort of for him. >> a little lie-down. >> thanks so much. appreciate it. all right. here's more of what we're working on this hour for "newsroom international." a remnant of asian paper shows christians from the second century thought jesus had a wife. in just a few minutes. >> denzel washington, the winner of two academy awards will be joining us live. he is talking about his commitment to help children. and rebz in syria take control of a border region. all that next. [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing
safe havens because of turkey's support for the opposition movement. elsewhere violence continues to rage m country. opposition groups say more than 60 people were killed today, including 30 in damascus and its surrounding suburbs. nick payton-walsh joins us now from neighboring lebanon. how is the victory for the rebels? >> it's significant because it's symbolic. they want on to seize border posts like that because they want to carve out, if possible, some sort of northern safe haven for syrian rebels, but to be honest, it isn't conflicted -- we have in the past seen how the syrian regime like to reverse these symbolic victories by taking back places like that. today the scenes are a battle closing scores on a turkish side of the border, we understand, from turkish officials and scenes of jubilation amongst the rebels themtsdz themselves. >> what can you tell us about amnesty international reports of inskrim nat bombing by syrian government forces? >>.
>> reporter: well, we'll receiver the past few months how the syrian regime has been shelling residential areas. the question is what has been the target? have they been going for syrian rebel military objectives there? amnesty international have done a detailed report into attacks over last month in 26 different places. now, in 25 of them they say there was no rebel military target to be seen at all in that area, and the inaccurate heavy weapons were used. some just bombs just dropped from aircraft flying overhead, but significantly they said that in one of those 26 cases there was, many of the, a rebel military target that they were going for. interestingly, it appears the syrian regime used a more accurate kind of weapon to launch that attack, a russian-made rocket. that suggests to amnesty, at least that, perhaps when they're going into rebel military targets, they want to be accurate, but when there's shelling residential areas, they actually want to be
indiscriminateat. they want to taur few people living there. horrifying for civilians on the receiving end. as are you seeing today, 100 plus people now killed in the violence continuing in syria. >> and, nick, tell me about the significance between a meeting between president al assad and the iranian foreign minister today. >> reporter: well, this is part of an iranian move over the past few days to try and get some sort of momentum going for their bid to negotiate a settlement out of this particular conflict. they've been talking to the turkish, to the egyptians as well, and now of course in damascus to try to continue these discussions. they saw they want to find a solution that's acceptable to all sides, but to be honest, it's going to be very hard for the syrian rebels to tolerate anything born of tehran's mind because, of course, they see iran as a key backer of their enemy. president bashar al assad and very much caught up in supporting their enemy. it's going to be very hard to see if this iranian move could bare any particular fruit, and i think many see the visit to damascus as a show of support for the assad regime and, in
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welcome back. denzel washington is known around the world for playing heroic characters in many blockbuster films, including "glory" and "unstoppable," but this oscar-winning actor says the real life heroes are the men and women who are helping to improve young lives every day through the boys and girls clubs of america. that organization provides children with an extra support
system for their indication and personal growth and sports. denzel washington has been associated with the club since he was a little tike some 50 years ago. he is now a national spokesperson for the organization, and he is joining us live from washington. good to see you. >> good to see you too. >> so you also have a special announcement you're going to make about the boys and girls club and one of the special recipients, but before we get to that, i want to talk about your connection to the boys and girls club and how it really helped shape you in large part as a very young little tike, as i mentioned. you explained that you were in kindergarten when you saw a boys and girls club being built in your hometown of mount vernon, new york, and then what happened? >> and then i -- as i remember, i begged my mother to take me down there, and she did, and i have been a member ever since. >> did you understand at the time what the boys and girls club was all about, what would happen when you were to go there
as a kid? >> no. not really. i mean, probably i had heard that, you know, you could go in there and play and they had games. they had a brand new gym and things like that. you know, one of the great things about the boys and girls club, especially -- or as i remember it in those days, is that you thought it was all about fun, but you were actually being taught a lot of life lessons and even through sports, you know, sportsmanship and how to accept defeat and how to be a gracious winner and things like that. so we never were, like, sat down and you must learn to be, you know -- it didn't feel like that. it felt like fun, and it was a safe place, and it was a place where you could compete. you can meet kids from other neighborhoods that you never met before, and i loved it. i mean, they would have to kick me out. >> you really feel like it shaped you in a big way? >> absolutely. absolutely. when i was i think in the third
grade we were -- i was on a track team at the club, on the relay team, and i was like the fourth fastest guy, and a new guy came in that was faster than me, and billy thomas, who was the coach of the team, he knew something was wrong with me, and i said, well, i'm worried about this other kid. he says, well, you know, denzel, you got to understand, he doesn't know how to pass the baton yet. he doesn't know how to run the curves. what he said to me was your natural ability will only take you so far. 20 years later or 15 years later i was about to graduate from college. i had started acting for two years, and i decided to go to a graduate program and study more because i knew my natural ability would only take me so far. i remembered that story, and i applied it to my life as an actor. >> clearly, it left an indelible impression because you remember his name. billy thomas. to this day. >> absolutely. >> you remember how it shaped and you what it did for you, so how do you suppose -- >> i remember the name of the
kid that joined the team. red witfield. >> darn. you will never forget that. it motivated you, so there you go. all right. let's talk about this big announcement, and every year a youth of the year is awarded and named, and you are actually sitting along side the one from kansas today, right? >> that's right. that's right. >> voila. >> trey jordan dudley who was just announced a short time ago as the national youth of the year. it's a competition among thousands of young people across the country, and it all boils down to one person, and here she is. >> oh, so trey, nice to meet you. how do you suppose -- >> nice to meet you too. >> how do you suppose you were selected? i understand you have been a member with the boys and girls club for about ten years, and then now you're actually a young staff member, so to speak. well, tell me about your commitment and why do you suppose they anointed you?
>> well, like you say, i've been a member since i was in kindergarten, so it's actually been about 13 years now, and once i was not eligible to be a member anymore, as far as being a club kid, i decided to work, so i could give back to what the club gave to me, so as far as, you know, just continuing to push forward and let kids know they can achieve anything. >> so what did the boys and girls club do for you? >> well, it gave me a sense of confidence, i guess, and showed me that it was okay to express myself. there were a lot of times where i kept all of my emotions inside because i wouldn't say that i didn't think they were important, but that i didn't feel that the people at home really needed hear them because they were experiencing the same things as far as, like, the abuse that was going on, so the club gave me, like, that sense of being able to express myself and get those feelings out that i had at such a young age and it wasn't healthy for me to keep them inside, so to be able to express them is definitely what
they gave to me. >> clearly, having had that experience, you as a junior staffer can really connect with other young people in a very special way. do you feel that happening? >> oh, yes. i always tell people when i first started this process we were going around giving our speeches to other people, and i actually gave it to the site that i worked at, and i had three girls who were in my group who came up to me afterwards with tears in their eyes crying and just wanted a hug because they told me that they were experiencing the same thing, so for me to know that i can be that leader and that role model for them to look up to is really touching. >> ah, fantastic. well, trei dudley, what an inspiration you are. thank you so much, denzel washington, an inspiration in your own right as well, and we look forward to seeing any your new flick that you're starring in "flight." right? you are a pilot, and you help save lives. >> that's right. >> all right. excellent. thanks so much. appreciate both of you today. >> thank you. >> to a story grab aing whole
>> mr. may be no bigger -- neebel peace prize winner aunk sung sue chicago. she's meeting with lawmakers. she spent years battle owing pregnancy by myanmar's repressive military force and she has been under house arrest for most of the past 20 years. she will receive the congressional gold medal. before s uh-huh kyi's visit, some were political dissidents and it was seen as an act of goodwill, but for many in
myanmar, also known as burma, fear still lies just below the surface, and a critically acclaimed new documentary shows their fight for freedom son-in-law just beginning. >> they may be expecting to go to school, but they can't afford it, so this is their reality. >> schooling -- they put children to work. >> how old are you? >> 15. >> 15? >> yeah, 15. >> how old are you? >> 14. >> are you 14? are you 14? >> yeah. yeah, 14. >> this was shot secretly using just a handheld camera by the man who joins me right now,
robert lieberman. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> so, mr. lieberman, you spent some time there teaching. what prompted you to say i need to start rolling some video here? >> well, i have been all over southeast asia, and i have always wanted to go into burma, and i had a chance to work with young filmmakers there, and i grabbed the opportunity. i was working in the state department. >> and what is it that you saw m images or the lifestyles of the people that you thought was remarkable and you knew it would take other viewers of this film aback as well? >> well, i have been all over the world except asia -- except antarctica and australia. i have been to every continent. this is the most unique country i have ever seen. >> in what way? >> well, it borders china, thailand, india, laos, but it's not like any of these other countries. it's exon tticexotic. i wanted to go in, and i was a
child -- names like mandalay and rangoon. just entrancing. i was told i couldn't film, so for a filmmaker that's like waving a red flag. >> of course. so the emages that we're looking at, we're talking about young children. we heard the audiotape. you know, 14 years old. this little girl who appears much younger than that. they are doing hard labor. you wanted to help reveal, you know, who was keeping this country going. the hardships behind keeping that country going. these are young children. did they speak to you beyond telling you their age? what were they expressing to you about what their life is like and what they -- their futures would be? >> these -- you know, they're majority buddhists, and there's a kind of acceptance of what has happened. they feel that they're experiencing, you know -- it's sort of karma for the previous lives they've lived.
yeah. what i tried to do really is to take you into the country and, it's not just the doom and gloom film. it really -- these are remarkable people. they have a highly developed sense of humor, all the educational system has been wrecked. it's 50 years of totalitarian regime. there's still this enormous interest in education, and i'm hoping that with the united states lifting sanctions now that burma can move ahead, but, you know, aung san s uh-huh kyi, which my sources tell me is going to have dinner with three presidents, president obama, clinton, and george w. bush. this is really a historic visit. it's unprecedented. >> there are many who -- in myanmar, or burma, and other places who would hope that she would have the posture of being a president herself. >> it's impossible because under the present constitution, which was a rigged election, nobody
who has a member of a family with a foreign passport can run for president, so as a constitution stands right now, aung san suu kyi has two sons that have a passport, so she can't -- you can't change the constitution because the military holds 25% of the seats. she's in a tight position, and she's walking a tight rope. >> fascinating discussion, fascinating documentary. thank you so much for your time. >> reply pleasure. thank you. >> we're iffing to check the day on wall street. stocks got a boost from good news in the u.s. housing market, and the new stimulus plan from japan. existing u.s. home sales soared by almost 8% in august, and there ewe seeing the dow is up by 53 points there. pretty superb numbers say many analysts on housing starts as well. they're up more than 29% compared to last year. meanwhile, the bank of japan -- japan, rather, said it would increase its bond-buying program
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writing simple that includes a reference to jesus' wife. the fragment dates to the second century, but the professor, karen king is quick to say that it does not provide evidence that jesus was married. let's bring in the belief blog. if this doesn't prove jeesdz was married, is it significant, or in what we is it significant? >> it's hugely significant. i mean, this is adding on to -- this is adding on to a long historical debate christians had in the early centuries after jesus' death over whether or not he was married. let's bring this into a little bit of perspective. that scrap we're showing you on the screen, it's about this big. that's the size of my metro card. it's about one and a half inches by three inches. that word, that phrase jesus said, my wife, is cut off, so what we don't have is the context. where that fits in with this entire writing sample. what she is suggesting that this is part of what's been called the nostic gospels.
it fits in with that pattern. these were texts that were written by jesus that fits into a genre of gospel that is did not make it into the bible, for a number of reasons, and she thinks this fits in with those, and for her the big historical significance is it gets back to this idea that christians were fighting about this very early on one, two centuries after jesus' death. >> what does it say exactly? >> the specific wording it says that has gotten everyone excited -- there's about four or five partial sentences on there. the one that everyone is getting excited about is jesus said to them, "my wife." now, of course, as you know in the new testament there is no mention of jesus' wife, and scholars have long said he was not married. what karen king and other scholars have said that the text is silent. because it does not mention or does mention that jesus had a wife, it raises the possibility that jesus did have a wife. for a lot of christians that is sort of outside of the bounds. that doesn't count because the
text doesn't specifically mention it, while it does mention other members of jesus' family. his brothers, his mother, his father. and it mention that is other disciples had spouses, namely peter. >> it's fascinating stuff. eric, thank you for break it down for us. >> you got it. their country, well, it's been torn apart by war. their lives are a daily struggle so, they look for ways to kind of numb the pain. >> with the syringe in one hand, a vial of heroin in the other. this 28-year-old man begins a ritual that's been part of his life for the past seven years. >> the struggle to get afghans off drugs. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center...
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as anna corin reports. >> reporter: at a park in downtown kabul huddled into the trees are a group of afghans ignored by society. with the syringe in one hand, a vial of heroin in the other, this 28-year-old man begins a ritual that's been part of his life for the past seven years. he draws the liquid out, what's left over he drinks, and then he gets into position. health workers give him stirl swabs to clean his skin. he doesn't use the crook of his arm because his veins have collapsed. instead he chooses the back of his hand. for the next five minutes he slowly pumps heroin into his veins. he then collapses with the needle still sticking out of his hand. this is a tragic scene repeated
throughout the country with up to one million afghanees addicted to drugs. 80% of the population, double the world average. with afghanistan producing 90% of the world's opium, the main ingredient of heroin, drugs here are pure in quality and very cheap. 28-year-old reza injekts half a gram a day that costs around $4. he started a year ago after being introduced it to it by a bad friend. he says he would like to give up, but at the moment he can't. using drugs made me leave my home, my family. if i didn't use drugs, i would have a family, a good life. >> i will show you the -- >> reporter: he runs a prevent itch drug program in kabul. it's the only clinic that
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it is, but that means little to the countless number of afghanes who can't access the methadone program. 25-year-old mesoma is willing to try a more basic form of treatment. she and her entire family, including her two young boys, are addicted to opium. i started to use the drug like a medicine for pain relief after my husband died, but when i became an addict, i had to search for a way to stop this. this is an organization that's local and founded through an afghan woman who tackles drug addiction through counseling. i feel shame and say why didn't i think of my children, my future? a powerful motive that for now is keeping her addiction at bay, but for so many other afghanees that battle is lost. anna korin, cnn, kabul. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year.
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ewe seen wildfires before. what about a fire tornado? a fire-nado, if you will. check this out. is this for real? it's a firenado in the australian outback. it was captured by an australian filmmaker who was out scouting lobbyings near the iconic alice springs. well, ted myers here to explain all that. so this is not some strange anomaly. this really does happen? >> it really does happen. i have seen it in western wildfires too. the air has to be very still around it for this to get going, but as the air rushes in, because the air around the fire is going up, if the air is going up, that means there is a vacuum down there. there's a hole in the air. the air rushes into the center just like a u.s. dust devil, if you will, and these dust devils, or land spouts, turn into fires. i couldn't stop watching this video. >> it's remarkable. >> it's one after the other. then when they zoom out, can you see it's not just small. this can go up almost -- it seems like it goes up 1,000 feet
or so. if are you in the middle of this, this is really a very windy system. we're talking winds about 100 miles per hour because it essentially is a tornado, or would be more like -- it would be similar to what we would consider to be a waterspout. the air is going up over the water, and the waterspout looks like this, but the wind -- that's 100 miles per hour, and you get in the way of that, you're going to knock down trees and definitely going to take these embers and throw them miles into the sky, and then miles downwind, if there is any wind at all, and you're going to make more fires. >> a fairly common phenomenon there in ahs rail wra? >> no. i would say probably not more than five of these a year total. >> that's still a lot. >> the irony is that this guy was out with a fantastic camera getting this fire tornado video. it is something. you see it when you get a lot of intense heat going straight up. that's what happens. even if gu to some of these science centers, they have these make a tornado in the building kind of machines. it's the same kind of thing. air going straight up, and it has to spin. it spins just like a tornado spins. al