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has to make 800 calories last seven hours. his food is his fuel to be an effective and better athlete. no thanks orange slices. we pack a calorie packed high protein meal every day. and this from michelle. the government needs to stop intruding in our lives. let the parents make decisions about their kids' lives. thanks for commenting. if you want to continue the conversation, facebook.com/carolcnn. thank you so much for joining us today. newsroom continues right now with ashleigh banfield. hi, everybody. nice to have you with us. it's 11:00 on the east coast, 8:00 on the west coast. and happy election day to you. i'm not kidding. it is election day. everybody else has been counting town the days for weeks now, right? technically november 6th is 40 days from today. but guess what, election day has already started in some states. absentee ballots are going out. and in other states, coming back. look at this map. 32 states and the district of
columbia let their voters vote early. i'm talking to you today, iowa, because, oh, happy day, you become the very first of the so-called battle ground states today to let your voters show up, do the in-person voting, and put this election behind you. and if you don't live in oregon or washington state, i bet you don't know this. the voting there is done exclusively by mail. no one goes to a polling place on any kind of election day. ohioans can question to the polls next tuesday. polls on tuesday. and this is not a fact that is lost on our president mr. obama stumping there yesterday. >> i still believe in you. and if you keep on believing in me, i want you to register to vote by october 9th. i want you to start voting next tuesday, october 2nd. >> so paul steinhauser joins me
now from washington, d.c. paul, let's go right back to iowa. everything begins in iowa. and we've got a recent poll that shows president obama has a seven point lead in iowa. so here's the guess. he wants to gets a many early votes in the bank in that state as possible and then move on with his person and his money. >> exactly. everybody knows iowa's that first state that votes in the primary and you caucus calendar and it's family us for that. it was the state that gave president obama -- senator obama his first victory. and he won iowa four years ago in the general election, considered a battleground state. both campaigns really going after it. four years ago goi, 545,000 iowans cast ballots early. and that was almost double what they did eight years prior. so early voting is important in iowa as it is in a bunch of these other states and that's why you're seeing the campaigns really press there not just in october, but now and in august because they knew that a lot of
these voters will be casting ballots before the debates. >> when i was a kid, early voting was because you couldn't vote on election day and i know a lot of things have changed. we have cell phones now. but we have really important days coming up on the calendar and i'm speaking of the debates. we learn so much about these candidates. and if you vote early, they don't matter at all. >> exactly. the presidential debate, the first one will be in denver, colorado next wednesday. but by next wednesday, ten states will be voting early. and as you mentioned, iowa and ohio, two crucial battleground states. they would have alreadied hy eh early voting under way. so that is why the debates while they're important for a lot of americans, guess what, some americans will have already cast their ballots by the time the debates begin. >> it's amazing when you see where the polls are today, they can always change. and yet those early voting
numbers calcify -- what percentage of the electorate is calcifying those results today and in the early days? >> four years ago about, a third of the people cast ballots before election day. either early voting or absentee voting. and that was the number and we think the number could be pretty comparable this time around. as you mentioned, you bring up a good point. what if there is a big development at one of these debates or a development outside of the debates but could impact the race not white house? for a lot of people, they would have already voted and they can't react. >> happy iowa election day to you, paul. >> thanks. so for all their differences, the president and his republican opponent certainly do find a lot of common ground. particularly this week and i'm speaking literally. on tuesday, both of these men
gave grand speeches in new york city. both looking presidential. yesterday they both campaigned in ohio. remember, ohio, ohio, ohio. it's critical. and today, in fact at this very hour as we speak, they are in the state of virginia. and that's why brianna keilar is there watching very closely what goes on with both these candidates. let's talk about the president. he's due to speak in about 45 minutes from now. and i think mitt romney is due to speak in springfield at the same time. so if the election comes down to these particular key states, is this where we'll see them and this is it? >> these are the states where we'll see them. ohio yesterday, extra have a today. and a couple things going on here. you mentioned early voting. early voting both absentee, mail-in and in-person, begins in virginia today. so no coincidence that you have barack obama and mitt romney
campaigning in the state. but they're trying to cut into each other's base. where is mitt romney today? springfield, virginia right outside of washington, d.c. northern virginia, that area, is really obama territory. and here we are in virginia beach. this is not obama territory. and i think one thing that shows that is actually we're here at at the farm bureau live. the band that will be performing next here because this is a music venue is the zac brown band which performed at the republican national convention, something that struck me. but they're trying to cut into each other's margins. president obama did pretty well in virginia beach narrowly losing virginia beach county to john mccain. this is a strong veteran area which normally goes for republicans. mitt romney has to win here and president obama is here trying to make sure that it and virginia are out of his reach. >> so when you say mitt romney has to win here, what do the newspapers say so far, how have the polls been looking and where do they stand today? >> well, right now what we're
looking at according to our latest cnn poll of polls, which is considering a lot of polls and averaging them, 50%-44% barack obama in the lead. so he has a single digit lead. that's something that the obama campaign is happy about. but that isn't really a comparable enough lead where they would be saying this is in the bag or something like this. the other thing you have to consider is that virginia is where you've got a marquee senate race taking place. tim kaine, former dnc chair, facing off against republican george allen, former governor, former senator. and this is a race remember virginia 2006 determined that democrats would have the majority in the senate. when you look at that senate race, tim kaine is leading by single digits. so right now, president obama is trying to kind of widen the gap for himself and also in the senate rate. >> interesting numbers. and we should also mention if you can even hear me with all
the cheering behind you that that poll of polls does not have a margin of error. so those numbers are those numbers. brianna keilar, thank you. i'll let you get back to your busy day. in the meantime, the president and mitt romney will soon be face to face themselves as american voters decide how they are going to mark their ballots. first presidential debate starts on wednesday night. you can watch it live right here 7:00 eastern on cnn and you can also watch it on cnn.com. [ female announcer ] imagine skin so healthy, it never gets dry again.
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the palestinian, israel, iran and the united states and our place within those names. it's all about to be front and center at the united nations today. we have live pictures for you right now. world leaders all taking their turns at the lectern. ours has been there as are a number of other top leaders. and today no exception. today netanyahu and mahmoud abbas will be taking the stage. and all of this is coming in just the next hour. mr. abbas will be up first. he's expected to ask the united
nations to give his people the palestinian authority nonmember observer status. that's an expanded kind of status than he has right now. this after last year's failed bid to win u.n. recognition of a palestinian state. now, shortly after he speaks, israel's prime minister will take the podium p. and mr. netanyahu is expected to focus on iran rather than on palestinians. he's likely going to warn the united nations about the threat that israel faces from iran's controversial nuclear program, but his warnings take on a new sense of urgency after making it clear that israel would preemptively attack iran if diplomacy fails. netanyahu's threats have put i suppose you could call a significant strain on relations with the united states and president obama in particular who the prime minister of israel says is pushing to establish a
clear red line. it is quite possible you'll hear about the red line again. and i do have breaking news for you, as well. cnn has learned that president obama has a plan to have a follow-up phone call with prime minister netanyahu tomorrow action all of this after the israeli government confirming there was an effort to put a meeting on the books when prime minister netanyahu was here in the united states and that he was rebuffed to have this face to face bilateral meeting with our president. well, the white house said we have phone, we're in constant contact and now we hear word they'll be in contact tomorrow. we'll take you to you united tha nations live when they begin to address that world body. as if it couldn't get worse for the people of syria who are staggering beneath the burden of a relentless civil war, much of it brought on by their very own
president, the united nations has come out with staggering new numbers. by the end of this year, number of syrians literally running for their lives, the number could surpass 700,000. that's seven times more than the u.n. estimated just back in march. these people and their kids are making a mad dash for the countries next door and tens of thousands have already made it into turkey. but this overwhelming flow of humanity is causing a huge problem for turkey, not to mention all the other states that are trying to feed and clothe and shelter the on claslt of these desperate people. turkey has been forced to shut the door, refuse entry to these tired, poor and huddled masses. so now these people have literally been stopped in their tracks on the syrian side of the border in the mud, in the mess, in the sickness eye with an
watson got a firsthand look. >> they live almost hidden in the olive groves. syrian families sleeping in the dirt. over the last month, a make shift camp of more than 5,000 people has sprung up on the northern edge of syria. families made homeless by war. water that's hard to even swallow. water that your receisef has go used to drinking. >> i've been here one month, five days. it's not nice. it's not healthy, also. >> why did you come here? >> because my house is destroyed. there is no house for me. >> everyone tells stories of rockets and air strikes, artillery and explosions. this man fled here from allepo.
his 2-year-old daughter was badly burned when a bomb blew up his house last month. i tried to ask her how are you. she's deaf now. she can't hear. the little girl's been deaf ever since the explosion. we see far too many children here covered in insect bites suffering from fever and diarrhea. >> she's too hot. >> is there a doctor? >> reporter: this filthy camp sits just 100 yards from the turkish border. >> we want to go there to save ours, our children, our relatives. >> reporter: for more than a year, turkey welcomed fleeing
syrians, caring for them in well organized camp, but the syrian refugee population in turkey recently swelled to more than 87,000. and now turkey appears to have partially shut what it once called its open door policies for syrians. these desperate people are stuck waiting at the border. under the eyes of a turkish border post, they hold a futile protest begging the turkish government to let them in. some of the children here look dazed, overwhelmed by their surroundings. the faceses of what could be a lost generation. they are victims of a conflict that's tearing syria apart. at sunset the families get ready for another night under the olive tree, hoping that tomorrow their turkish neighbors will finally let them in. >> ivan watson joins us live now on the turkish side of the border with syria.
i've vivan, it's heart wrenchin to see those conditions and not to see any evidence of an ngo or a world body. is anybody trying to respond to these people and open the doors and let them in? >> i talked to turn kikish offis and they said they can't allow all these rev you few gfugees i they don't have enough camps. they're building more, but as the spokesman told me, he said we can't build catmps fast enouh to match the pace of the violence of the syrian regime against its own people. he insisted the turks were providing some food and aid
across the border to this very camp, but it's definitely not enough for those 5,000 plus people there that were not international aid agencies on the ground there. they didn't have blankets or normal tents and they're only the fraction of the displaced people we saw. in a nearby village, there were hundreds of families in schools and mosques as well and the fear is the number could surge to 700,000 in the next three months. those numbers will swell will dramatically. >> so does it at least force the turks and the other surrounding nations to start thinking more politically that they have to do something about assad and force his hand to stop the disaster coming their way? >> you certainly hear the turks
for example behind closed doors urging americans to take a more active roll calling on the international community to help. part of this is the turk's own fault. they insisted from the beginning they were going to take part of the refugees themselves. and now that the number has grown so fast so quickly, they're in a bind. they don't have groups like the united nations high commissioner for refugees on the ground to help them deal with all the masses of people. and the koconsequence is you ge these pathetic scenes like the ones we saw just across the border where children we fear might not survive a matter of days longer than we saw them. the conditions were really that rough. and ordinary syrians were trying to get support, trying to give some kind of food to these people, but it's simply not
enough. and they were being bombed in towns andville annuala villages visited last month and seemed safe. they've intensified their collective punishment and that is driving the additional numbers of rev few refugees have decided this is too violent, we have no choice but to go across the border. so expect to see more awful scenes like the ones we showed you in the weeks and months ahead especially as the weather gets colder here. >> it's not as though we don't have history that tells us this happens every single war results in this kind of tragedy. ivan, excellent work and thank you for enlightening us. of course the fighting does continue in syria. the killing continues, as well. opposition saying that at least
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if you are having a tough time deciding how you're going to vote with issues 2012, heavy on your plate, maybe big government is one of those things that just gets stuck in your crawl. if it is, our tom foreman will lay out positions of both of the candidates right now for you on the size of government. >> reporter: here are three reasons why the federal government has grown bigger in the past few years. because the economy has crashed forcing more people to rely on government programs like unemployment and food stamps. because the baby boomers started retiring collecting social security and medicare. and maybe because barack obama is president. >> the question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works. >> reporter: from the start, mr. obama has clearly believed government is a positive force that expansion is not bad, and that it serves to control what
many consider the excesses of the free market. >> without the levining hand of wise policy, markets can crash. monopolies can stifle competition. the vulnerable can be exploited. >> reporter: he frequently cautions against unwarranted government growth, yet through the economic stimulus, health care reform and the auto bailout, he has sounded like another democratic president, franklin roosevelt, who insisted that government must protect economic rights. >> the right of every family to a decent home. the right to adequate medical care. and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health. >> reporter: flash forward four decades and here comes another president with a very different view. >> government is not the solution to our problem. government is the problem. >> reporter: ronald ray beganea perspective has dominated
republican's view. >> we have a different approach between a government dominated society and a society driven by free people pursuing their dreams. >> reporter: romney insists the federal government should be smaller and lessen truce s entrt should expand only when absolutely necessary and that largely it should keep out of the free market. >> i line up with a smaller government, less intrusive government, regulations being paired back. >> reporter: such views on both sides of course can make a difference, but here is the catch. for the past century, with a few exceptions, the government has been expanding no matter which party has held the white house. more cabinet positions, more agencies, more spending per citizen and much of that is driven by things like we mentioned at the start. population growth, economic trends and entitlements, meaning the question is probably not whether the government will keep growing under mr. barack obama or mr. romney, but, rather, how
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america's choice 2012 and both campaigns know that this election will really come down to a few key states. and the polls in those states are looking solidedly in obama's column. so what is team romney to do? how about this. work hard. spend money. spend time. bang that shoe leather to the sidewalk. and maybe even cast some doubt on polls that run favorable. cnn's wolf blitzer joining me live from washington. wolf, the romney camp is suggesting that a lot of those mainstream bombs are skewed in some way, that they're not accurate.are skewed in some way, that they're not accurate. i want to play a short clip. >> we trust our internal polls. i don't make any campaign decisions based off what i read in the "washington post." so i'm not going to get into the specifics of what our polls say or tonight say. i trust our numbers and that's what we're basing our decisions off of. >> but he won't give us those
numbers. so here's how it goes. every time bad numbers come out, i hear campaigns saying we don't use those numbers, we use our own. but i never hear that when the numbers are good. am i wrong? >> you're not wrong, but the fundamental fact of what's going on right now is the numbers in these key battleground states according to almost all of the reputable national polls out there show that obama is ahead in most of these key battleground states. that's obviously disconcerting to a lot of republicans. some of them like karl rove, for example, have repeatedly gone out there and suggested that these polls are biassed against the republicans because they're oversampling democrats, for example, as opposed to republicans. and as a result, don't trust these polls, they're not reliable. so it's sort of convenient for a lot of these republicans like karl rove to go after the nbc poll or the abc poll or cnn polls, but what they don't say is that the fox news polls are showing almost exactly the same
thing. fox has some good polls. for example their most recent battleground states, in ohio and virginia, show obama ahead of romney by seven points. in florida, fox news poll shows the president ahead of romney by five points. very similar to all these other so-called mainstream poll numbers. you don't hear them complaining about the fox news polls. they're complaining about the others. so there is an imbalance there. if you take a look at all these polls, and we at cnn did a poll of polls, you show -- it clearly shows that the president is ahead slightly in almost all of these key battleground states. and i think that's pretty significant. >> we were just showing virginia and now here is florida and they're saying exactly what you just said. and here is the thing. yes we're 40 days out. but early voting, we started the program talking about the significance of early voting and the volumes of people who do early voting. so regardless of what the romney camp is saying about their
internal polls, is it entirely possible they are seeing these polls that are now as i said solidifying with early voters and saying it may be time to spend the money on down ballot contenders and go for the house and go for the senate? because we've lost those states at this point. >> yeah, i think it's way too premature that-to-say they've lost those states. i've seen polls turn around the final 40 days of an election. >> but even with the early voting numbers? >> even with the early voting numbers. this is not over by any means. there's three presidential debates, one vice presidential debate. and i remember very vividly, you probably were too young to remember, the 1980 race. at this point in 1980, jimmy carter was actually ahead in the polls over reagan and reagan won decisively. so there's still plenty of opportunity for romney to come back. the only point i'm trying to make is right now, and remember polls are a snapshot of what's
happening right now, right now obama clearly is ahead in these key battleground states. that's very significant. it can have a demoralizing impact on a lot of republicans and a lot of republican money from that perspective as you point out. but at the same time, it can make the democrats overconfident. they may decide, you know what, he doesn't need anymore money, he's doing just fine. or i don't have to show up and vote because the president's going to win. so there's a two edged sword to being ahead or behind at this point in the polls. this race is continuing. it's by no means over. anybody who says it's over is being ridiculous. >> and speaking of the '80s, i actually started my career in the '80s, although i love that compliment from you. >> you look much younger than that. >> you can be on every day. thank you, wolf blitzer. the election's close, debates are even closer. the first debate is next wednesday night, cnn special coverage starts 7:00 p.m.
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international woman of wonder, zain verjee. so normally i have to talk to you about all sorts of awful things. and today you're here with me in new york and we actually get to talk about something fun, something you can do. >> they let us out of our cages. >> so if i were going to meet in you london, what would be the best thing for us to do? >> i would take you out, first of all, for fish and chips. right, mate? >> you can actually say this in your american accent? go for it. >> i'll only do it if do you the rest of the show in an english
accent. if you were coming to london, i would take you to have fish and chips, then tea, and you have to put your pinky out a little bit, okay? because that's how you drink tea. and then i would put you on horses. do you ride? >> i didn't. >> okay. >> this is like brooklyn and texas. >> coming out of the gate looking for eight. >> you are hilarious. riding in hyde park is what i do for fun. and a lot of people go and relax around the park. >> check this out as she shows us hyde park on horse back. >> i'm going to take you to a tourist spot, but i won't take you there by boat or buggy or by
bus. i'm going to take you by ben. this is not big ben, just ben. and ben will take us for a little stroll around town. ♪ this is the beautiful serpentine in hyde park. it was created about 300 years or so ago and it's actually fake. so ben and thomas over here won't really want to drink from that water. but the tourists are having a good time. hyde park is 350 acres. we're actually on rotten row. this used to be a very fashionable place where society would come to see and be seen.
no, it's not time to eat. stop eating, ben. so if ever you're in london, come check it out. come for a ride in hyde park stables. zain verjee and ben, cnn. >> so we cut the tape early for you. just quickly, is it only the tourists -- like if we go to hyde park, are we the tourists or does everybody do that? >> the tourists do that, but there's actually a few training rings there. so poeople like me who live thee and who want to learn more do a little dressage. which is what i'm doing. so i go into hyde park and do it. it's just tourists and locals. >> you can stay for tea and crumpets after the show? >> of course. >> come visit any day. cnn.com by the way has all these
if a prosecutor in florida gets her way, a 13-year-old boy is going to be september to nt pris prison for the rest of his life, no chance of seeing his mother in the free world again. that's a fact. the boy's name is christian fernandez. there he is. look closely. make no mistake, his alleged crime could not be more serious. first-degree murder. and the victim, his own baby half brother just two years old. he has also been charged with
sexually abusing his 5-year-old brother, but that child apparently recanted the story. the charge still stands. christian's story is so much more complex than just these charges. let's start with this. he was born to a mom who was just 12 years old. 12 years old. she got pregnant after she was raped. so his father's in prison for it. as a toddler, christian was found filthy and naked and wandering the streets at 4:00 in the morning near a motel where his drug addicted grandmother was getting high. both christian and that now 14-year-old mommy were packed off to foster care when christian was just a little kid. at 8 years old, he was sexually abused by relative. some years later he was beaten so badly by his mom's new husband that the school sent him
to the hospital with a damaged retina. that man shot himself dead in front of the other children. in 2011, christian was left home alone with a 2 1/2-year-old brother and another brother. and that toddler was mortally injured after being allegedly thrown against a book case. but when christian's mother returned home, she reportedly waited eight hours to get help for that injured toddler. instead, she was googling things like unconsciousness and was texting with her friends. and now she's been charged for that crime and she's pled to it. so there's christian's life for you in a nutshell. and now at the tender age of 13, he is facing a very adult system. a system that itself can't even decide if it's legal to subject him to this kind of trial. randy zellen joins me. you and i have talked at length
many times about legal cases. i always say they can't get worse and then i see something like this. do prosecutors take into -- simple question. to prosecutors take into account a background like this before charging like that? >> great question. typically no. because everything that you just discussed is usually an issue for sentencing. but since the prosecution solely, nobody else, determines whether or not a juvenile should be tried as an adult or kept in the juvenile system, all of those things do come into consideration and a prosecutor is duty bund to look at all of this stuff that happens in a child's life. why? because can this child be rehabilitated as opposed to simply punished? if the answer is the child can be rehabilitated, the answer is keep him in the juvenile system where he'll get the help. if not, then try him as an adult. so yes, the prosecutor should be looking at everything you just spoke of and try him as a kid.
>> look closely, that's the kid we're talking about. he looks like he's at take your kid to work today. not a kid who should be wearing an orange jump suit. during the break, contemplate this. when asked if he wants his miranda rights, do you think he could understand at 11 years old what miranda rights are? we're back with that in a moment. that affect this case? we're back with that in a moment. chirping electric shaver shaking remote tapping sound shaking drill chirping tapping shaking remote wouldn't it be great to have one less battery to worry about? car honking irping the 2012 sonata hybrid. the only hybrid with a lifetime hybrid battery warranty. from hyundai.
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so before the break i asked the question, an 11-year-old given miranda rights, can they possibly understand? it turns out the judge, randy zelin, said no. you can't use any of that evidence that that kid gave you just because you thought he waived his miranda rights. what about all the stuff he gave before miranda? >> that's the fascinating part of what's going on. while the prosecution withdrew their appeal of, judge, how can you toss this out, there were statements christian made prior to being entitled to being read
his rights, you a right to keep your mouth shut. the judge is letting that in. by withdrawing the appeal now the defense can appeal the judge's ruling which says certain statements can come in. it's unbelievable that a child who isn't old enough or big enough to sit in the front seat of a car, can understand i have a right to keep my mouth shut and not do it. >> we always talk about people going into a courtroom and whether they're competent to stand trial. do they understand the charges against them and can they assist in their defense. is that kid competent according to those standards? >> according to the standards, the judge found that probably -- probably what the judge found was he didn't have to be told and there wasn't a determination that needed to be made whether or not he understood he had a right to keep his mouth shut because he either wasn't in custody yet or wasn't being interrogated. are you in custody and are you
being asked a question that, if you answer it, it would incriminate you. >> i can't understand how a child can understand the process. you have understand the process to be in a courtroom to start with. clearly this thing has been moving along the pipeline. once it gets to trial, if it ever does, you get to the jury. and there are a lot of people in the state of florida who are not happy about this. the prosecutor is angela cory, by the way, the same one in the zimmerman case. ultimately would a jury look at a little kid and say first degree murder, life in prison without parole? not on my watch. >> it's fascinating. apparently 190,000 people have signed petitions saying how do you try this kid as an adult. he needs to be rehabilitated. straight a student, has had a horrific life. that's unfair to people who have had horrific lives, what this kid has gone through.
you know something in with supervision, treatment, all the stuff you get as a juvenile, maybe he comes out okay. how this prosecutor decided eight years isn't enough to decide whether this can be can be turned around. >> that's often what they'll say, damaged goods. we can't let him out. who is going to be next on the list. randy zelin, through for your insights. good to see you again. tomorrow there's action on this case, a hearing scheduled tomorrow. we could see some movement. we could see more continuances, i don't know. we'll watch it for you and bring you the details as soon as we get them as well. back in a moment. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time, and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district.
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