tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN October 24, 2012 10:00pm-11:00pm EDT
she doesn't seem quite so enthusiastic, but it's early days. talk about carpe diem. this guy knows how to get attention, as the photo beamed in minutes to all quarters of the planet that kid has nerves of steal, great sense of timing and could teach donald trump a thing or two about publicity stunts. young man, a salute you. that's all. "ac 360" starts now. >> good evening, everyone. 10:00 here on the east don't. we begin tonight with breaking news you will only see it here. new details about a man in custody who we are learning is the key suspect in the attack in benghazi in libya. a key suspect in the murder of four americans, including the am bass correspond, christopher stevens. we know who he is, where he is, who has him and whether american interrogators are able to get at him. new insight into how quickly the state department knew about the
military sophistication of the military assault. frank townsend will join us shortly. bob b enair and john mccain wil join us as well. but i want to start with, intelligence correspondent suzanne kelly. >> >> the fbi is expected to take the lead on this investigation. >> so, it is not clear. fbi will take the lead on interviews and cia. others will be there? >> that is what was expected. it's not clear that the cia will take the lead and other intelligence will be there? >> that's what we understand you understand what this looks like with law enforcement. but we are told that right now the fbi is told to take the lead. they would be able to uphold in court but that the intelligence
agency will be there as well. they want to know how many other people they can lik nk to the attack in benghazi. >> so, his name is ali alhazri. we know that he was posting details of the attack as it was happening on his social media websites. >> as it was happening? >> as it was happening. spectacular detail. when you do something like that it makes it easier for people to track you down and find you. we know that he went from libya and turkey, and officials detained him and turned him over to tunisia. >> cnn has obtained an e-mail that details within eight hours of the attack in benghazi, that the shelter location was under attack by mortar fire, presumably the second compound where the navy s.e.a.l.s were eventually killed. and this is -- it appears to be more evidence that
administration officials were in a position to know a lot about the attack in real time. >> they did know that there were mortars being used. if officials come out with a tread of information like that, and then they come out and in two days there is more to it. they don't like to operate that way. they like to have the big picture and come with an assessment as opposed to strings of information. that's one of the reasons it didn't come out earlier. >> i assume there were debriefings, and i assume they would have taken place, within 24, 48 hours or so after the attacks with the survivors, and why that information, that there wasn't, in fact, protests before the attacks why that didn't get
disseminated quicker. i don't know the answer to that. >> you have to remember, the u.s. is at a huge disadvantage. it didn't have people on the ground to interview these witnesses, and a lot of the information, cnn on the ground before the fbi was in benghazi. >> you would think those people would know there wasn't a protest. we don't have the answer. stay with us. we want to bring in bob bair. former cia operator in the middle east and also fran town sends. fran recently visited libya prior to this attack and visited with ambassador stevens. what do you make of the e-mail sent to a number of state department officials and the national security council. >> we shouldn't be surprised by this. remember, we reported early on, law enforcement sources i had spoken to said the state department had real time access to the facts on the ground,
because, of course, from the consulate, they called to the embassy in trip old ooeshg patched through, state department headquarters, we knew they had real time access to information. it is true that in the early going there, is conflicting information, but as you point out, the very same law enforcement officials had interviewed those who survived the attack as they came out. those officials confirming what they have heard from the reports on the ground very early on and frankly we still don't know why is it that information wasn't what was communicated to ambassador susan rice who went out the following sunday and said this was the result of a protest. >> gathering of information within 24, 48 hours, the fog of war argument is it harder to make, because somebody at least in the pipeline had some of the information, bob, the suspect,
this guy, you said it's significant that the suspect is in tunisia, is a tuntunisian. why is that significant to you? >> it indicates to me we're dealing with the regional organization, there is certain information that puts him in al qaeda in the magnificent red, so what we're talking about here, in fact, he is a true tunisia, based out of tunisia, shows up in libya, participates in a military assault on the u.s. embassy, we're talking about a military like terrorist group operating in north africa, and the significance of that is, of course, that al qaeda in a sense moved from pakistan to yemen, from yemen to north africa, so we have al qaeda spreading instead of being destroyed in another part of the world. so it's going to be interesting to talk to this guy. if, in fact, he gives up details
and admits to being a member of al qaeda in the magnificent red. >> what do you make of whether the fbi or cia is the one who is interrogating or questioning this person? >> i think it's a good idea. the fbi is good at this. >> you prefer the fbi do it? >> much better. i think the renditions and interrogation tactics, the interrogation tactics work. i disagree with a lot of my colleagues, the fbi has done a good job. they always take investigations like this. american citizens were killed. your hon under american law, they should do it. >> they also believe another al qaeda avilleiated group had a role. >> al qaeda in iraq. that would be significant. >> not in this attack. >> exactly. >> we know there is a core group of the a dozen of people, the bigger group, between 35 and 40
people. 12 of those had some sort of al qaeda affiliation and a long time we heard they were affiliated with al qaeda in the islamic magnificent rreb. they believe that the attack in yemen was also involved. and one of the targets was the u.s. embassy. >> a large number of the people, forbes fighters who went to iraq to fight and kill americans and iraqis were from libya particularly eastern libya, eastern been gadsy. are those people who just returned home, do we know have they just returned home and are living in libya with the foreign terrorist experience? or did they purposefully come to libya for the attack? >> we don't know, but it's very important, and it kind of fits
with what we've heard. that this was a loosely bound group. your cousin may be a member of al qaeda in iraq, for example, and they'll pick up on that. very possible they went home and got together and found out, hey, september 11th, here is a great opportunity for us, let's go do it. >> what do you make of the fact that the report that it's libyans with al qaeda experience from al qaeda in iraq are involve? >> anderson, when i was still in the white house and traveling, i had gone to libya, met with gadhafi and the internal security services at the time and it was one of our chief concerns, and we were approaching them to say to them, we're concerned about this pipeline that you referred to. the fear is not only at the time you are fighting these people that they are allowing to travel into the war zone, that are harming our troops, but you worry about the bleedoff that after the conflict, these people will go back to their home
countries and it wasn't just libya, all across north africa, yemen, and throughout the middle east and this is -- this is sort of coming home to roost, that original problem that we saw, the fight, into iraq years earlier and while unfortunate, it's not surprising. these guys returned to their home community with this sort of sense of the siege, having fought in a foreign conflict. come home and really take on these leadership roles in local extremist community in that respect, not entirely surprising, but very unfortunate. >> we've seen this time and again, fighters trained in chechnya, ending up in bosnia during the war there and folks trained on the battleground in iraq ending up in libya and elsewhere. >> anderson, keep in mind, these guys getting training in combat zones, only place they can get it iraq, afghanistan, pakistan,
it doesn't matter. they need to pass through the crucible of combat. they get very good. learn how to lay mortars, learn how to fire rocket propelled grenades and ambush an embassy. they are getting better and better all the time. with intelligence community' problem, they are also wary of our collection efforts. we're seeing a tougher enemy after ten years, after 9/11. these guys are good. >> susan kelly, appreciate, bob bair, fran townsend. few in the senate have followed this story more closely than john mccain. i spoke to him earlier today. cnn is reporting there were about 12 suspects with ties to al qaeda involved in this attack, have you heard anything more about this that you can tell us? >> well, the thing i think that is interesting news today, e-mails were going back to the
state department and being distributed throughout the upper levels of government, in this attack was taking place and it was probably by al qaeda. and so again, that brings into question, what did the president know? when did he know it? what did he do about it? both before, during and after? that's why senator lindsbehin l graham, we entered a letter. the president needs to talk to the american people and tell them exactly what happened. huge confusion and contradict n contradictions. >> i want to play what hillary clinton had to say. >> the independent building accountability review board is looking, not cherry picking one story here, one koudocument her. i highly recommend this as the appropriate approach for something complex as an attack
like this you know, posting and on facebook is not in and of itself evidence. >> and she's referencing that in one of these e-mails, one of the personnel in libya said this group ansar alsharrh shariaa wa claiming responsibility. >> it's very clear that organization, al qaeda affiliated, were the orchestrators of attack. my only response, facts are stubborn things. there are certain facts we know. we know there were attacks on the consulate in april and june. we know the british consulate was attacked, that it was close, that there were warnings and requests for additional security. didn't the president know those things? and then, of course, the days after, the days after attack, when the u.n. ambassador kept
coming out and saying it was a hate-filled video that inspired the demonstrations, there was no demonstrations. in other words, facts are certain things. everybody knows there was no demonstration, so i'm all for a thorough and complete investigation, but certain facts are known and there continues to be contradictions within the government. and we now find out, we members of congress, rather than being briefed, we find out from the news media. we went to a briefing, and with all due respect, i'm a great admirer of the secretary of state. as you know, before we went out of session, and they told us knowing, absolutely nothing, and the next day, the tick tock of the attack, which lasted seven hours being was in "the wall street journal" and "the new york times." they are not telling members of congress who have some oversight responsibilities and again there, are certain facts which are indisputable.
and for us all to wait and reserve judgment is frankly and i will right now, anderson, bet you a dollar to a doughnut that the results of this review board will not be made public, they will not complete their assigned task until after november 6th. what do you bet? >> do you see this as an intelligence famure, willful misleading of the american public? do you see it as both or neither? >> i think it's willfully misleading the american public to interrupt the narrative, we got bin laden and al qaeda on the run and by the way, al qaeda is not on the run. all over northern africa, northern mali, doubled in iraq, et cetera. so it interfered with that rhetoric. they are either misleading or the degree of incompetence and lack of acting on existing information such as the previous attacks on the consulate in benghazi, for example, is
absolute total incompetence. >> senator mccain, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> always good to be with you. >> we're also talk to senator mccain in a little bit about indiana republican campaign senator's comments on rape and abortion that have caused a lot of controversy. t have inflammatory statements about abortion, rape, and other candidate sets off a storm with his records. we'll talk about that in real politics, straight ahead. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last,
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real politics, another politician weighed this on rape and pregnancy, and once again the country is talking about. another male senate candidate making waves at the precisely the moment when the presidential race is a race for female votes. here is what richard mourdock said during a vote last night. >> i struggled with it myself fora long time. think life is a gift from god
and even when it begins with horrible rape, if is something god intended to happen. >> both political parties were involved on a presidential election and republicans, mr. mourdock included were trying to do damage control. he himself is not backing down. >> i believe life i was tself i greatest gift god can give us. i know, polling shows at least 80% of all americans and i'm sure that many hoosiers think that god is the author of all life. and i stand firmly on that belief. >> those who twist his comments for partisan gain typify what's wrong with washington. and a new ad was played by democrats, tying those words to mitt romney. >> this fall i'm supporting r i
richard mourdock for senate. >> even when life begins in the horrible situation of rape, it's something god intended to happen. >> the romney campaign said "governor mitt romney disagrees with richard mourdock and they disagree on policies regarding exceptions for rape and incest, but still support him." obama's campaign said they are not pulling the ad. and we spoke about the comments to john mccain. dan lothian joins us now the later debate stalled some progress. we haven't seen a lot of the poll numbers. now his team, spent a date on the it wassive over this. does this story concern them at all? >> i think it asks, anderson, you can tell by the fact that senior romney advisers out of sight all day long.
we didn't see them in nevada or here in iowa. and i think this is what happens when the romney campaign has a narrative. a news psych ill ocycle out of . they put out that statement, saying what they wanted on to do with the pro-richard mourdock ad, one of their top surrogates, kelly ayotte, on his vice presidential list of potential running mates, she already went out and said she was not going to be joining richard mourdock on the campaign trail today, and shortly thereafter, that statement was put out, saying they still support him, but don't agree on the views on whether or not god intend for a person to become pregnant after a rape. and at the same time, not throwing them under the bus. >> and i'll ask senator john mccain whether he stands by
richard mourdock. we saw the obama campaign jump on this quickly. do they plan to keep the attacks up beyond today? do they think this has legs that they can help them? >> to the extent it continues to be part of the news cycle, certainly this fits into the overall portrait they are trying to paint of mitt romney, when it comes to women's issues, women's health issues and them having control over their own bodies that mitt romney and the republican party in general is really dangerous. you pointed out, the campaign jumping on this right washg the traveling campaign spokesperson saying that the president thought this was outrageous, these comments were outrageous and demeaning to women. the dnc, pushing this very hard today, putting together a conference call, where they were laying out and trying to make this argument that mitt romney and the republican party would be dangerous for women and that women should be concerned about this, as they head to the polls,
because this is the kind of thing that you will see, not only with the republican congress, but with the republican president. ahead, what new polling from ohio shows, could richard mourdock's comments about pregnancy and rape help decide the outcome? that's next. let's say you want to get ahead in your career.
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mourdock. i asked john mccain if he still supports mourdock. >> do you still count yourself in his corner? >> it depends on what he does. i think it depends on what he does. if he apologizes and says he misspoke and he was wrong and asks the people to forgive him, then obviously i'd be the first -- you know, as said, i'm not sure how big a mistake i have made, but in the years i've -- i made a few, anderson, and i've asked for people's understanding and forgiveness when i own up to it. it's when you don't own up to it that people will not believe in you. >> the romney campaign as we said earlier has not withdrawn support for mourdock or pulled the pro mourdock ads. joining me is alex castelianos, and cnn chief political analyst,
glor gloria borger. are romney officials concerned? >> you are concerned about everything that happens at this point in the campaign. they have an ad running in a state with mitt romney, they did not ask for it to be taken down. i spoke with a romney senior adviser who said they did test owning this after the whole todd akin case in missouri, and they say what they discovered, when somebody makes a stupid remark, they aren't going to blame mitt romney for it they feel like this story won't have much of an impact on them. >> alex, you looked into this in the past, have you done ads. do you agree it doesn't have much of an impact on romney? >> this too shall pass. it's more of a distraction, and that's the cost the campaign pays. instead of talking about the economy and jobs which is what
mitt romney rather talk about, he has to spend a couple of hours discussing this. >> it's been a news cycle. we've been talking about this all day. >> not really. it's fairly clear what mourdock meant. he was not talking that god willed women to be raped. that's such a ridiculous comment, it will be hard for anybody to embrace and right now, we're at the point of the campaign where the hype is irritating voters and overhype is turning them off. it's the quiet voice that will cut through and get attention, and i think this kind of thing will blow over in a bit. >> sandra, what do you think? romney team is saying that voters won't hold their guy responsible no what someone else said. >> i think that romney will be held responsible for positions of the republican party.
>> but his position is different than mourdock. >> his position is that he would support justices to the supreme court that would overturn roe vs. wade. and this is the last stopgap between the radical policies in the house and this becoming law for women in this country. >> but his position on abortion is different than mourdock's. he says in the case of rape, incest, or life of the mother that abortion should be allowed. >> if mr. mourdock's position would take hold, he would be delighted to sign a bill to ban all abortion. >> could he build up enough of an advantage that women voters are not as decisive here. >> right. well, that's their hope, anderson. recent polls everywhere show
that there is a gender gap, where women are much more geared toward the president. you look at this poll. you put it up there, about ohio voters, and you see obama is plus 19 on women here, and romney is only plus 9 on men. so what he needs to do is to get his numbers up with men in a state like ohio, so that the gender gap with women is balanced out. it's not that he has to beat president obama when it comes to women. but he has to improve his numbers with women by a few points. that's proven difficult to do. that's why in the last debate, we've seen a more moderate family. we've seen him talk more about his family and faith. talking more about issues that women care about.
>> we are seeing some republican candidates distance themselves from mourdock. i asked mccain if he is still in mourdock's corner. and he said whether or not he's in his corner depends on whether he apologizes if he doesn't apologize, does pressure on mitt romney grow? >> if there was something substantive underneath it the story might continue, but it's again pretty clear what he meant. he was talking about a baby and life was god's will, not that god's will that a woman be raped. anderson, looking at the survey, this survey is an outliar. mitt romney is closing the gender gap since the first debate. one of the things that is happening here, the obama campai campaign has this very close minded view that women are reproductive parts. guess what? they are starting most small businesses in this country.
and i think it's a little bit demeaning to say that women only care about one thing, one thing only and that's one of the reasons that obama is having a problem an increasing problem with the female vote right now. >> let's be honest. both of these campaigns are talking about issues they think women care about right now. because women are late deciders, women also go to the polls. and so, you know, both of these campaigns are talking about things they think women want to hear. >> sandra, appreciate you being on. >> thank you. >> you probably saw felix baumgartner breaking the record from the edge of space. did it feel like it went by really quickly or do you remember every second? >> i remember every second. i wtotally concentrated. focused, just trying to do the right thing. [ female announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role
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new insight into a man who set a record, breaking the sound barri barrier, skydiving 24 miles from the edge of space. my interview with felix baumgartner a moment. first a look at his historic jump. >> sometimes you have to get up really high to see how small you are. i'm going home now. >> and come home he did. we want to know what it was like up in the stratosphere, knowing that there was only one way home. i spoke to felix baumgartner earlier. when you opened that capsule door, and you were standing on the edge, looking down, what is
going through your mind? >> well, it was a unique and outstanding moment, i have been working so hard for five years to reach that point and it was a beautiful view when you look out there but at the same time, you realized that everything around you is hostile, plus when i disconnect my oxygen houses from the ship's system, i only bring oxygen from my bottles, and i only had ten minutes. so there wasn't time to waste. >> i read that you only had a tiny tear in your suit, you could have died, you could have been boiled alive. >> that's not true. i have been told if you have a hole the size of a dime it will still do the job. >> what does it feel to travel at that speed? >> you feel fast, but it doesn't feel like 830 miles an hour, and you don't feel like are you traveling at supersonic speed. all my scientists told me you are going to have a shock wave
going through your suit. i never felt it, and the supersonic boom happens way behind you. >> do you notice anything? >> no, never. until i hit -- until i opened my parachute, i didn't know if i opened the speed of sound or not. when i touched the parachute, i was told by a lot of people that they heard the supersonic boom. the first and only supersonic boom created by a person. which is pretty cool. >> there is this moment where you were spinning and it seemed like you were out of control. were you out of control? >> we knew you couldn't go off stable. >> off the air? >> off the capsule stable, when you step off, are you going to spin. there is almost in a vacuum. no supportive air, and well-trained skydiver, you use the air to stabilize yourself, the first 30 seconds, have you
no air, so you have to spin. have you 50 seconds to control the spin, you cannot practice this before, either you go for supersonic speed or not. why you constantly spin, you have to figure out the solution to stop the spin. moving my arms and legs, really gentle. are you traveling 830 miles an hour. you cannot stick your arm out like this, it becomes worse. once i had it, i never lost it. >> the entire time, are you thinking -- are you thinking second by second? there is no time to really enjoy it, i guess, is there? >> it was business. as soon as you step off, it's business. have you been working hard to accomplish what we have to accomplish and no second thought about emotional stuff. you have to perform well. >> time wise, did it go by really quickly? do you remember every second? >> i remember every second. i was totally concentrated, focused, just trying to do the
right thing. >> ever a moment of fear or worry? >> well, it's not fear, because my life was never in danger. if it looks like that for regular people, we have been doing a lot of testing before, you know, we have developed a lot of safety equipment to make this as safe as possible. my life has never been in danger, the only worry i had is not breaking the speed of sound. >> your landing seemed perfect. you have seen people doing regular sky jumps and collapse on the ground. your landing was amazing. >> i never thought about landing, but this time i was so worried about falling down, the whole world was watching, so you want to finish this, you know, with style. >> stick the landing. >> and that's why i was getting worried when i was 30 seconds prior to landing, didn't know where the wind was coming from, no air, no nothing, and my
helicopter guys were supposed to drop some flares, and 30 seconds before landing, i didn't see flares, that's why i was yelling at the guys over the radio, drop some flares. i want to finish this in a perfect way. they dropped the flares, and i saw the direction of the wind, and i landed on my feet. >> i love that the last 30 seconds, you are worried about the landing, finishing it well. i read you had panic attacks and a sense of claustrophobia in the suit. what was that like? >> in the beginning, when i was in the suit almost an hour, i kind of felt anxious, but i fought my way through. then after all of the tests, there was this big chamber test at brooks air force base in san antonio, texas, and i was supposed to spend five or six hours in the capsule. took the capsule, put it in a chamber, cooled it down to what
we experienced up there. brought me up to 129,000 feet in the dress chamber. full dress rehearsal for six hours. i knew i could not do six hours in the suit. >> why? it's -- i mean, it's claustrophobic. >> you put that viceor down, are you trapped in your own little world. the only thing you hear is your breathing, for hours and hours and hours. very stiff, altitude becomes pressurized. very stiff, lack of mobility, and if you have negative thoughts, it's getting worse inside the suit. it's working with the psychiatrist to get over the problem. >> how were you able to get over it? >> mostly by thinking positive and outside the suit. if you stay -- >> that's interesting. >> if you stay with the problems inside the suit, we work every day, and basically we do not think about stuff. but when it's getting silent around you, you start thinking about a lot of things and this is where worry starts. >> it sounds like being in
prison almost. >> it is. i started skydiving when i was 16 years old, i love the freedom, and now i'm like a bird in a cage. that's what the suit did to me. >> what do you do next? are you done? >> i am going to break the speed of light. that's a joke. no, actually i think -- not i think, i know, i'm done, it's time to move on, so when i was young, when i was a little kid. i had two dreams, first one was becoming a skydiver, second, becoming a helicopter pilot. i did, back in 2006 at van nuys airport, now i'm a xeshl helicopter pilot, you i'll put my skills in public service or work as a firefighter. >> that's cool. >> i'm in the area, this is where i want to be, where i belong. >> i wish you the best. incredible what you did. >> good talking to you. >> amazing stuff. see how more of how felix pulled
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23-year-old otto yulakhan. if you are watching tonight from the region, if you know or have seen this man, police are looking for tips on his whereabouts, nine people, including his fiancee, mother and brother, have been arrested. he is from the district from malala was shot point blank in the head. she survived the attack, the taliban have vowed to kill her if she returns from england. here is a 3 "360" news and business bulletin. four people killed in syria in a deadly car bomb. diplomats announced plans for a cease-fire agree starting on friday to mark a muslim holiday. the last cease-fire in april lasted one day. troubling 360 follow. george carey who spoke about
losing his wife lily to fungal meningitis. he went into the hospital on sunday. doses may have gone out to as many as 3,000 medical facilities nationwide and have now been blamed for 24 fatalities. the justice department has filed suit against bank of america, seeking to recover $1 billion lost by taxpayers. it alleges the bank sped through the processing of government-backed mortgages, resulting in thousands of fraudulent and detective loans. we're getting word of one death as hurricane sandy bashes jamaica. 70% of the island is without power. parts of florida are under tropical storm warnings right now. forecasts show sandy heading north along the u.s. east coast over the next few days. and if you just can't drive 55, you may want to head toward a new stretch of highway just outside of austin, texas. it opened today with a speed limit of 85 miles per hour, the
fastest in the nation. anderson. >> isha, thanks. you know the old show business saying, never work with children or animals? a reporter learns that the hard way. [ ross ] in the taihang mountains of china, hand-carved on the side of a cliff is the guoliang tunnel. what?! you've got to be kidding me. [ derek ] i've never seen a road like this. there's jagged rock all the way around. this is really gonna test the ats on all levels. [ derek ] this road is the most uneven surface, and it gets very narrow. magnetic ride control is going to be working hard.
invasive species of carp cause a big problem in certain parts of the country. a reporter from wsmv in nashville decided to head out and grab the story by the tail. >> they are big this one about 12 pounds but they can grow to be about -- whoa. oh. >> oh, no. >> are you okay? >> ouch, right? the poor guy she fell on right. you should know that the reporter herself thought it was funny. has a sense of humor and tweeted out the video. not going to make fun of her for wearing a dress on fashing trip, because frankly, i'm not even wearing pants right now. we had experience with invasive carp right here on "360" dave mattingly did a story how they can jump out of the water and hurt people. how did david find that out? take a look. >> ouch. >> there we go. that hurt. >> poor david. he was fine.
but you can get injured by the crazy carp and we don't think it's funny when our colleagues get hurt. >> do it. >> oh, yi, yi, oh! it hurts. it's painful. but no one is dead. >> all right. that still holds up. back to a reporter, you have to be careful when working with wild life, not just with exotic species of fish, but little cuddly animals right now. >> this little guy is having fun. as part of a sentence, the couple is going to have to come right here. oh. >> i have seen that video so many times, the reporter was fine. thought the whole thing was funny. don't think she thought that was funny at that moment. underscores my point. get into the glitzy world of television, do what i do, call upon a real st