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into full recover rry mode. we learned that some 13,000 homes were damaged, destroyed, or effected by this storm. thousands of people here are waking up homeless this morning, staying with friends or family, in hotels. state insurance officials tell us claims are expected to top $2 billion. it's easy to see how you get to that number. plus, today was supposed to be the last day of school here in moore, oklahoma. today the kids at plaza towers elementary school, they were supposed to attend an end of the year talent show. instead, students will just say good-bye to their teachers for the summer. the funeral for little antonio is scheduled for today. she is survived by her mother and her father and two sisters. she was just 9 years old. everyone who was missing in the aftermath of the tornado is now accounted for. the official death toll stands at 24. that number not expected to change. ten of those killed, ten of them were children. and the challenge ahead of this
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town of 56,000 people, the challenge will be long and it will be daunting. officials now estimate the twister damaging or destroying more than 13,000 homes causing up to $2 billion in damage. >> oh, my god. >> volunteers from all over the country are now in oklahoma to help those in greatest need like this pennsylvania man and his team who traveled here at the first sign of trouble. >> fortunately we were monitoring weather patterns and realized that this storm was going to happen. when the storm happened we were only two hours out and were able to bring in almost $2 million of equipment within two hours after the storm touched down here. >> reporter: as survivors pick up the pieces a memorial service is scheduled this weekend to remember the 24 lives lost, including the 7 children killed at the plaza towers elementary school. the tragedy at the school is raising more questions about why schools don't have safe rooms for shelter. >> anybody that lives in any
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tornado area should have one. but it's just a matter of cost. you know, there will be more people after this tornado that buy them and have them put in. so we'll have more as soon as this is done. >> reporter: the mayor confirmed that all of the missing are now accounted for. at the city cemetery, hundreds of volunteers gathered with shovels and rakes to clean up for upcoming funerals. president obama will visit the tornado-ravaged area on sunday. at a white house event wednesday night the president reiterated his support. >> while the road ahead will be long, their country will be with them every single step of the way. >> reporter: for every story of destruction there are so many more of selflessness and heroism. at this day care center flattened by the monstrous winds, all of the toddlers and workers survived in a bathroom. paramedic lisa lester described what she encountered as she drove up to help the wounded. >> they were just covered in mud
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from head to toe. all you could see was the whites of their eyes. >> reporter: she squeezed them all in this ambulance, 18 people in all. >> is that legal? >> no. >> reporter: lisa reunited with one of the women she helped that day. >> so glad i got to see you. i wanted to get your name. >> i couldn't remember yours and i looked at the paper, it was shannon. i'm so happy. i'm glad you're okay. i'm so happy. thank you so much. >> just one of the many heroes here. you know, since the moment the tornado struck so much of the focus has been on the plaza towers elementary school that was simply flattened by the tornado and seven of the children who were killed were killed there. i'm joined now by cnn's john king. you got a remarkable close-up look at the devastation there. >> it's a wasteland. it's numbing. it's sad when you get to it. you imagine, this was a place of laughter and learning. on a full day, more than 400 students in this school, plus the teachers. the elementary school is the heart of any community. going through their normal day.
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15-minute warning for the teachers to grab all those students and get them shelter. sadly, not that many safe options. >> in terms of when people first responded here, i mean, where did everybody go? >> we basically just surrounded the school. some of this has been cleaned out due to the search and rescue efforts. they were literally just climbing over debris. people were yelling for help, so just pulling people out as quickly as possible. and that went on literally for hours. >> this was a hall of classrooms that led to -- >> classrooms on each side. >> that was connected. >> there was a wall there. that was a classroom straight ahead. there was classrooms out here. you can see there's still tile. >> right. this is gone. >> this classroom is gone. these classrooms are all gone. >> there are more on the front side here, too. anywhere we see the tile -- >> you can see the door into what was the classroom. >> the back wall of the classroom, yeah, the board. and that's the front wall of the
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school there? >> front wall would have been right there, yes. >> is there a place in the school where people faired better, for lack of a better way to put it? >> you can just kind of see where there's still walls standing up. obviously that corner, the main part of the tornado came through this way. so this is the area that took the most as it went through this part here. so that's -- you can just kind of see where the walls are standing and where they're not. 460-something students, unfortunately we did lose 7. by looking at the damage, it's a miracle that we didn't lose a lot more. and none of this has been touched. this is what it looked like. there hasn't been tractors moving anything. this is how it landed. >> people have been through and reasonably certain no one is left? >> yes, it has all been searched. that's what has taken so long. we went through all of this. this goes 15 miles the other way. >> 15 miles? >> of just like this. >> 15 miles of just like this, yes.
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>> you go through that neighborhood as the officer told us, 15 miles, 15 miles, everything is flattened. some of the vehicles in that neighborhood come from miles away carried by the tornado. everything is just out of place. it was tossed and thrown. if you imagine the school is shaped like a "u" and the two posts are essentially gone and straight cross bar, most of that is still there but the two arms of the school were just ripped off. this, of course, is going to renew the debate. it's an older school. no underground shelter. god bless the teachers and other people at that school who protected so many of the kids. seven of the ten children perished there. it's going to be a big part of the rebuilding debate about should there have been a safe place. >> any child killed is too many. seven is too many. it is remarkable so many lives were saved there. >> when you walk through there your mood just drops. >> what an amazing look. john king, thank you. there's a lot of other news going around in many places of the world. let's get back to christine romans in new york with the other top stories. developing this morning,
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britain fearing a terror attack after a soldier was run over and hacked to death in the street. a possible suspect literally with blood on his hands saying this was to avenge muslims. >> we will never stop fighting until you leave us alone. >> the victim was agective duty but they have not released his identity. police are acting for the public's help with this investigation. let's who to atika shubert with the latest. we know an emergency government meeting wrapped up this morning and prime minister david cameron just finished speaking at 10 downing street. what did he say? >> that's right, he has. he clearly condemned this attack and also tried to calm some of the angry tensions and fears. there's a lot of extra security on streets today. there's a helicopter overhead. i apologize for the noise. let's take a quick listen to what cameron said earlier.
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>> what happened yesterday in woolwich has sickened us all. on our televisions last night and in our newspapers this morning we have all seen images that are deeply shocking. the people who did this were trying to divide us. they should know something like this will only bring us together and make us stronger. >> reporter: now, we've also heard from london's mayor boris johnson. he just a few minutes ago wrapped up a press conference here with police basically also condemning the attack and saying the investigation is moving forward, but police do need time to really dig in and find out what was behind these attacks, how were they planned, how were they carried out. what we do know is that two homes have been raided. one in east london, one in lancaster. quite a bit of ways. and police are going through and trying to find what they can, what they know about these two
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suspects that at this point have not been identified. >> what do we know about the suspects? we have sort of this cellphone video of one of the men ranting, if you will. we could see video of the other man. what else do we know about them? >> you know, we do t not have a confirmed name at this point. clearly the authorities know who they are, both of them are under arrest. they are being held in separate hospitals. they were seriously injured yesterday. what we know from the cellphones and what eyewitnesses say happened. from the cellphone video you can see that one of them that is speaking to the camera in a broad london accent. this is somebody who clearly grew up here, possibly even somewhere local li. the other suspect, we don't know that much about. but what's interesting is eyewitnesses say that they actually actively told bystanders to call the police. they said to call 999, get the
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police over here. and then when the police came, actually charged the police and actually attempted to shoot one of the officers. and before they were shot themselves and apprehended. this is all bizarre behavior, to say the least. and this is one of the things that they will be looking for to clues as to the psychological state of mind of both of these young men. >> atika shubert, we will continue to follow that today. thank you, atika. ahead, we're learning more about mysterious and deadly connections between the boston bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev and a man killed by the fbi yesterday. what did this man know about the bombings and what's the connection? you're watching "starting point." mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'.
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welcome back. cnn learned the dead boston marathon bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev has been linked to a gruesome 2011 triple murder. a law enforcement source says a
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chechen man who was a friend of tsarnaev's confessed to slashing the victims' throats and he claims tsarnaev also participated in those murders. that man ibragim todashev was killed yesterday during an al r altercation with an fbi agent. john zarrella is live in orlando with details. good morning. >> it's been more than 24 hours since todashev was shot by law enforcement authorities at his apartment here in orlando. and you have to believe, because the crime scene is still active, that the fbi is going through everything in that apartment to find any links between todashev and the boston bombers to more than just the murder and perhaps other people who they might find information on in the apartment. but right now the only link between todashev and one of the boston bombers appears to be those murders. sources tell cnn that this man ibragim todashev knew boston
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bombing suspects tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev and todashev confessed to being, quote, involved in a drug-related murder in massachusetts. a federal law enforcement alw s official tells cnn that todashev implicated tamerlan in the murders. but todashev is now dead, shot during questioning by an fbi agent and two massachusetts state police officers in the kitchen of his orlando apartment. law enforcement sources told cnn todashev had confessed to his role in the triple murder, then became violent and attacked the fbi agent. he was then shot and killed. a friend said todashev knew the bombing suspects but that was all. >> he knew them back like two years ago, back when he used to live in boston. and he knew them. and he didn't -- he wasn't like real close friends. he just happened to know them. and i guess that was his fault, mistake.
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but he had no idea that they were up to something like that, like bombing and everything, you know what i mean? >> reporter: now dead, boston bomber tamerlan tsarnaev knew one of the massachusetts victims. the fbi is now checking to see if they can match his and todashev's dna to the crime scene. there were other connections between the two men. sources tell cnn they came from the same region of chechnya. todashev lived in boston two years ago. both men were in mixed martial arts at a studio in boston and on a mixed martial arts website. tamerlan tsarnaev's phone number was found in todashev's cell. earlier this month todashev was charged with aggravated battery after, according to orlando police, getting in a fight over a parking space at a local mall. while it appears todashev was a violent man, his connection to the bombing suspects may go no further than a drug murder case and friendship. >> now, the friends of todashev's have said that he had been looked at by the fbi and
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they had already started talking with him and interviewing him within just days of the boston bombings. christine? >> john zarrella, thanks. urgent reminder from the man in charge of getting compensation to the victims of the boston bombing says victims and families have until june 15th to apply for their share of the boston one fund. that fund currently stands at $31 million. ahead on "starting point," president obama laying out his counter terrorism agenda today with several of his tactics under scrutiny, including his drone policy. drone policy. what can we expect him to say? lt are back and more irresistible than ever. [ ding ] [ moaning ] [ male announcer ] with rose hips and chamomile... you'll fall in love with your hair... yes! yes! yes! all over again. herbal essences. say yes again to naturally irresistible hair.
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severe weather hitting oklahoma right now. john berman who is live on the ground there, we've lost his shot because of the severe weather that's moving through. for the latest on this incoming storm is our petersons. it's raining real hard and lost our shot. you've got it on the map. >> now a severe thunderstorm warning in the area. look at the cells developing quickly. notice all the lightning. definitely some cells out there. one is moving 35 miles per hour. the potential is out there for a half dollar size hail. so again, keep in mind, we're not just talking about rain, potential for hail. when you see thunderstorm warnings like this we talk about wind as well. debris is out there. we will have to watch for stronger winds out there, potentially blowing some of the debris around. definitely going to be using caution in the moore area. this is something they're going to be dealing with all weekend
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long, through memorial day weekend. the slight risk area is there for us but also a new warning area right in oklahoma. also in the texas panhandle as well today. amarillo and western porg portf oklahoma looking for that slight risk. not only tornadoes again, but these large thunderstorms exploding out there. the large hail, those strong winds and downward winds. sometimes those can produce damage as well. that's a definite serious outlook for you today. we're talking about the forecast. today is not the only day they're going to see this. look at this. thunderstorms in the forecast for the next several days. it doesn't look like they're get that break out there. temperatures are moderate. that's a little bit misleading. but as long as you have those strong winds out there they're still dealing with a little bit of sense of urgency out there. otherwise is story is that same low remember that produced all the activity on the plains, that low has so much cold air associated with it it's going to be pulling off to the northeast today and that's going to bring us the chance of severe weather
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in our area. one of the things we are looking at though is the potential for a hint of snow in the upper elevations. hard to believe there's so much cold out there. upper peaks. that's how strong that system was that was in the plains that we could be talking about snow even at these elevations. overall, the big story is that we continue to talk about. unfortunately the severe weather is not dying down for several days. >> reminder to be careful because a third of injuries happen in the days after the tornado as people are cleaning up and it is still quite dangerous. president obama delivering a major speech today about terror policy and the future of drones. it comes one day after the administrations say four americans have been killed in drone strikes overseas since 2009. let's check in with cnn white house correspondent dan lothian. >> this is a highly anticipated speech. we expect the president to announce new restrictions on how those controversial drone strikes can take place. this as the white house lays out what one official describes as a framework for the president's
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counter terrorism strategy. hours before president obama delivers a major national security speech his administration is now acknowledging that the u.s. killed four americans in drone strikes. the government admitted to the killings in a letter wednesday to congress. of the four, only anwar al was targeted in september 2011 in yemen. the others were in the wrong place at the wrong time. american drones have aggressively chased terrorists from the mountains of pakistan to the desert of yemen. high-tech warfare consistently defended by the obama administration. >> to stop plots, prevent future attacks, and to save american lives. >> reporter: in his state of the union address president obama laid out a broad legal justification for this use of deadly force. >> why my administration has worked tirelessly to forge a durable, legal, and policy framework to guide our counter. terrorism efforts.
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>> the attorney general's letter says the president approved new standards for reviewing and approving missions to capture or kill terrorists. in his speech later today aides say the president will build on his state of the union message including providing more transparency on how terrorists are targeted and making the case that al qaeda is weakened but new dangers have emerged. >> the longer that this program has gone on the more controversial it's become, whether it's the concerns over civilian casualties, the bl blowback on american reputation. >> reporter: all things the president says he wrestles with in an interview last summer with cnn's jessica yellen. another flash point the president will address, the guantanamo bay detention facility. his first pledge in 2009 was to close the facility. after insurmountable legal hurdles it is remains open. >> it is the president's view that we should be determined, as
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he is, to see the guantanamo bay detention facility closed, keeping it open is not efficient, it's not affective, and it's not in the interest of our national security. >> and the president is expected to announce specific steps that he will take to close guantan o guantanamo. in addition, he will talk about how the u.s. can better secure its diplomatic facilities, especially in some of these very dangerous regions of the world. christine? >> dan lothian in washington, thanks. ahead on "starting point," in oklahoma one of the worst scenes of destruction is an elementary school obliterated during that tornado. next, we'll hear from one of the rescuers who rushed to the scene to try to rescue students and came upon unmanageable horror. what does the future hold for moore, oklahoma. your prescription medication give you the burden of constipation? turn to senokot-s tablets. senokot-s has a natural vegetable laxative ingredient plus the comfort of a stool softener for gentle, overnight relief of occasional constipation. go to for savings.
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over the next 72 hours the
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town of moore, oklahoma, will host the president and say final farewells to 24 of their own. today the first victim will be laid to rest. a funeral will be held for 9-year-old antonio cannedelaria. today would have also been the school's last day of the year. state insurance officials say claims are now expected to surpass $2 billion for monday's epic twister. 13,000 homes have been damaged or destroyed. 10,000 people are without a place to live this morning. and on sunday president obama will be here to witness the devastation firsthand and provide comfort to a grieving community. for many here that grief is almost impossible to shake. our pamela brown spoke to a tornado survivor who rushed to plaza towers elementary school to help with the rescue but wasn't prepared for what he saw there. pamela brown has that part of the story. >> moore resident adam baker is giving a hand to a close friend.
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it's helping him cope after he found himself helpless in the face of tragedy at the plaza towers elementary school. >> reporter: right after the storm hit, he was one of many who rushed to plaza towers to find loved ones. he desperately searched for his nephew and any other survivors. and you went there to -- in hopes of rescuing people. >> yeah. i didn't really get to, i guess. i -- i tried, though. i mean, that's all i can do. >> reporter: instead, he encountered unspeakable horror. four children buried under the massive debris of the collapsed school, suffocated by its sheer weight. >> they probably would have made it if they weren't pinned. >> how were they pinned? >> pinned by different debris, desks, two by fours, pieces of
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metal. >> reporter: the students were not found in a basement as officials initially believed. do you think had there been an underground shelter these lives could have been saved? >> oh, yeah, most definitely. underground shelters are some of the best things to have in a tornado. >> reporter: still, there are not enough of them, even in tornado stricken oklahoma. schools aren't required to have underground shelters. the main reasons? the high cost of retrofitting the schools and the porous soil. >> it's about the money and the statistics. f-5 tornado is very rare, 1% to 2% of the tornadoes. they don't happen very often. it's the very reason they don't have safe rooms for earthquakes, they don't work all the time. >> reporter: a painful truth for >> reporter: a painful truth for mikki dickson davis who lost her son kyle at plaza towers. >> with us living in oklahoma, tornado shelters should be in every school. it should be -- you know, there should be a place that if this
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ever happened again during school, that kids can get to a safe place, that we don't have to sit there and go through rubble and rubble and rubble and may not ever find what we're looking for. >> reporter: a feeling that adam baker knows all too well. >> i pulled him out and basically just tried to put him in a room as respectfully as i could. >> what was that like for you? >> it's terrible for me, but it's my duty as an american. it's a hole in your heart just to see these little broken bodies. >> i want to remind you if you want to help the victims here in oklahoma, go to of course our john berman is there this morning reporting live, continuing to follow this story. we've lost his live shot, i should say, because severe weather moving through the area. that will be a complication, of course, for rescue workers who are still trying to get back in, start to move some of the stuff off the roads, try to get into
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some of these homes and begin the slow, slow process of rebuilding. so we are closely monitor that severe weather moving through the region. new this morning, rescue workers in st. paul, minnesota, desperately search for a missing fourth grader after a school field trip to a park took a tragic turn. gravel saturated by heavy rain suddenly gave way yesterday, killing one child and injuring two others in the slide and a fourth child is still missing. a sergeant at west point accused of secretly videotaping female cadets in the shower and bathroom, michael mcclendon is charged with indecent misconduct. they're trying to contact a dozen women who might have been recorded. mcclendon helped train and mentor cadets at the academy. a 103-year-old ban on gay boy scouts could come to an end today. 1400 members of the boy scouts national council will vote in texas in a few hours with the outcome expected to be announced this afternoon. regardless of the outcome, the organization still plans to keep a ban on openly gay scout
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leaders. the chicago board of education has voted to shut down 50 schools around the city. officials say the closures will consolidate many underutilized schools if chicago teacher's union blasting the plan saying it could expose students to turf wars and gang violence. many families in moore coping with grief and loss. jerry bondy's story is particularly wrenching. she's coming to grips with the death of her husband. she tells cnn's anderson cooper they were holding on to one another in the bathroom in their home when the twister came grinding through. >> i felt like i was in a blender. >> felt like you were in a blender? >> that's the best way to describe it. the wall just kind of hanged down on me and it just kind of swirled. and i held on to my husband as long as i could. and he just flew into space. >> you actually felt him fly ag
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way? >> yeah. and i don't know where he went. >> were you speaking to each other during this storm? >> yes. >> what were you saying? >> well, we -- he was telling me how much he loved me, and i said i love you. and the whole house just went. >> the whole house all around you? >> it's gone. >> remarkable. john had a chance to speak to a family who lost their 9-year-old daughter in the disaster. emmy conatzer was one of seven children who died when the twister flattened the school. >> how did you find out about emily? >> well, with knew -- we couldn't find her at all. she wasn't one -- any of the kids that got pulled out. and we waited until 2:00 in the morning. and that's when they came and told us that she could possibly be a child that's dead. >> you can hear john's entire emotional interview at the top of the hour here on "starting
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good morning. welcome back to "starting point." this morning jodi arias is still awaiting her punishment. the arizona jury resumes deliberations in just a few hours. arias has convicted of first degree murder two weeks ago but jurors have been unable to reach a unanimous decision on whether she should get the death penalty or life in prison. in the event of a hung jury a new panel would be seated for the penalty phase and the trial could drag on for many more months. vinnie politan has been following the trial close plip he's host of hln "after dark." vinnie joins me from atlanta. the deliberations resume today at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. it hasn't reached a consensus. third day of deliberations. does it bode well that they will spare her life if they can't -- they haven't decided so far? >> no, here's the thing. in arizona it's got to be unanimous for life or unanimous for death.
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it's one of the few states that does it that way. there are some sort of impasse. they said they couldn't all agree. no idea what the split is, if it's one holdout or if it's 6-6 and we don't know which way they're going. the bottom line here now is if they all cannot agree one way or the other, then what happens, believe it or not, is a new jury gets impanelled and they will determine that single issue, the guilty verdict stands, premeditated murder. the aggravating factor stands of extreme cruelty. but then a new jury would come in to decide the single issue of life or death. >> until then we know the judge is giving them the allen charge. he's ordered them to go back and continue deliberating. he can keep pushing this jury. >> well, but you have to be careful because it can't be perceived that you're compelling a verdict. what the judge basically did is she sent them back in and said if you need any help, if there's anything we can do that would, you know, help you in your
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deliberations, please let us know. if you need to hear any testimony back, some evidence, more argument, whatever it is. so right now we're at the point though, if they send another note saying that they're deadlocked, it's questionable whether or not the judge would send them back to deliberate again. she could try to. i'm sure the defense would object. but the bottom line is, we're either very close to the end or very far away because if they come back and they're deadlocked and have to do a new jury, it's going to take some time to get another jury. >> does the new jury have to hear all the evidence again? >> yeah, they do, because if you're the prosecutor, you don't want to just sentence someone life or death without them knowing all the details that you brought out during the trial. but the good news there is that the prosecutor's case was only a couple of weeks. it was the defense case that took months in this trial. so if they got a new jury in, probably within a few weeks they would be back deliberating life or death.
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but let's hope that this jury invested so much time will come to a consensus one way or the other and bring this to a finality for everyone involved, including the victim's family. >> to be a fly on the wall. imagine what they're talking about. meanwhile, her demeanor yesterday, she was smiling, she looked relaxed, just a day after a 19-minute, you know, essay on why she should get life in prison and then a whole round of interviews. what do you make of her demeanor yesterday? >> i don't know if i can drop the "f" word here on cnn but i think she was flirting here in court in that video we're looking at because she's speaking with one of the deputies over there and smiling ear to ear. and then this media junket she went on was absolutely amazing. interview after interview with demands like she's, you know, a rock star or something, you know. listen, you can only shoot me from the waist up. don't show the stripes. if you're going to interview me you have to bring makeup and you
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can't videotape me when i put my makeup on and make sure you bring lip gloss, too. unbelievable. >> it's almost as if she's the star in her own drama. it's almost as if she's enjoying all of this attention. >> i think she does. you know, she says one thing in court and looks one way and then she gets out of court and it's a whole different deal outside of the presence of the jury. and you know, she's been doing interviews since the beginning. when she was first arrested for murder, she comes back to the jail and holds a press conference. it's unbelievable. and i knew it from the time of her arrest until now that this was going to be a trial like no other. but i never, never imagined what is happening now would have happened. >> maybe she knows her time in the spotlight is coming quickly to a close. >> it is. >> you know, i mean, she's being removed from society. she's a convicted murderer. the question now is how long she
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lives out her life in, you know, be hind bars. all right. vinnie politan, nice to see you this morning. >> great to see you. >> catch hln "after dark" live at 10:00 p.m. eastern on hln. severe weather is sweeping back into oklahoma. john berman was live on the ground but we lost his shot because of the bad weather. we're going to talk to him on the phone in a minute, but first, the latest on the storm. meteorologist indrid petersons is here. >> it's so unfortunate will it breaks my heart this morning. look at this. look at oklahoma and the radar here. all of the cells seem to be taking aim just for the oklahoma city and moore area. look at all the lightning out there. when you see a lot of lightning you know we're talking about the severe thunderstorm cells sdwop i developing. you see the severe thunderstorm warnings. as one expires, another one shows up. look in the distance as one cell builds right behind the other. that's what we're starting to see this morning. looks like it's not letting up. currently the warning boxes not expire for another hour.
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what happens when you have a severe thunderstorm warning? we're talking about strong winds. keep in mind all the debris that's out there this morning, all of that is going to be blowing around. hail, they reported pebble size hail. certainly in a system like this we're going to talk about golf ball size hail and strong winds. see gusts picking up. a lot of systems 20 to 30 miles per hour unless, of course, don't forget the heavy rain. a lot of people don't have shelter this morning. very tough situation for them. not the only thing we're looking at. you can really tell the heavy amounts of rain out there. one of the things that i like to mention, people really underestimate the power of flooding. a lot of flooding could occur. six inches of water. that's all it takes to take a human life. try and cross that flood water, that's all it takes. two feet of water, a large suv can be swept away. number one reason for deaths in this country when it comes to weather is the flooding. when we see cells like this, we're very concerned. i want to show you also it not the only risk area today. original low, the one that
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produced all of that mess over in the plains, that same low has made its way to the northeast. we do have a slight risk area for us as well. we're going to talk about strong winds, hail, and the heavy rain for us. isolated tornadoes. not really the major threat here in the northeast, but once we go right back in towards oklahoma and panhandle of texas, not in the forecast. not as high of a risk as what we saw a few days ago but still, like we're already seeing, the large hail, strong winds and heavy rain, in the forecast and here the threat is higher than in the northeast for certainly potential here for an isolated tornado. unfortunately this forecast from mere is not just for today. as we go through memorial day weekend, showers will remain in the forecast. so hard, everyone is trying to get their lives together. >> the flooding and how it doesn't take as much t water as you think to cause trouble. more bad weather hitting oklahoma. we lost john berman's live shot but he's calling in to give us the latest of the conditions on the ground.
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hi, john. >> hi, how are you? let meserve as a second force to the forecast, the situation on the ground here. it is pouring. torrential, torrential rain right now. we can see the water just blowing down the street here. under that tent right there that you may be seeing right now, shooting it off tirks phe ipad. they rode out the tornado in a bank vault together. now they're all huddled together once again under a tarp to stay dry. as you mentioned, it knocked our satellite signature not out. it's heavy, heavy rain here that just soaked all of the rrecover efforts here this morning, making it very difficult for anyone to work, anyone to get around. in the forecast, i don't feel extreme wind yet. i don't see debris flying around anywhere. right now it's really just nasty, nasty amounts of rain. extremely uncomfortable here. you know, frankly, just not what people need here this morning in moore, oklahoma.
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so 72 hours after that tornado struck. people want to be doing here is keeping their lives back together again. and they're waking just one us innance that they didn't need here. >> i think of the kids too. i was in a tornado when i was a little kid. and i remember how long after that when there was severe weather, how really afraid i would get. lightning, rain, thunder. those kids, a fresh, scary memory what they have gone through, and many don't have homes to be hunkering in right now. >> no doubt. no doubt. and we talked to a lot of children right now. the parent are taking extra measures with kids. i spoke to one mother yesterday who was taking her -- take the child's mind off everything that is going on here. so difficult for so many people. before i told you those folks huddled in a bank vault during
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the tornado, and they are now huddled under a tent. there they are. a picture of what's going on here. it's a mess. but it's good, when the rain stops, and it will stop today, the recovery in moore, oklahoma, will continue. >> all right. john berman. thank you so much. we'll check in with you in a few minutes, hopefully some of the weather might have passed and we'll get a proper live shot. nice work on the fly. we'll be back, right after the break.
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welcome back to "starting point." chicago billionaire penny pritzker is about to be grilled by congress today. she has been nominated to be the next commerce secretary. national political correspondent jim acosta live from our washington bureau this morning. she is a long time friend and early supporter of this president and a very successful businesswoman. but she is going to face
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scrutiny. >> later this morning, we'll find out if this is a controversial nominee, when the hearing gets under way for commerce secretary. a corporate executive and key obama supporter, pritzker is worth $1.85 billion. much of her wealth comes from her family, which founded the hyatt hotel. charles grassley raised questions about her finances and whether she moved the money offshore to reduce the amount she owed in taxes. the obama campaign hammered mitt romney for doing the same thing and grassley said in a recent statement, here it is. this is the second nominee in a row, jack lew, treasury secretary the first, associated with this kind of tax avoidance
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activity. it is hypocritical to overlook tax avoidance when it's convenient. president obama hinted that pritzker's nomination could be bumpy when he announced the nomination on her birthday a few days ago. >> today is her birthday. happy birthday, penny. for your birthday present, you get to go through confirmation. it's going to be great. >> not exactly a birthday wish. now, there will be other questions about pritzker's finances, had to amend her financial disclosure statement because she underreported her income by $80 million. an attorney for ms. pritzker said it was an omission that was
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a clerical error on their fault. and labor groups also upset about her nomination because of the hyatt hotel chain's relationship with its unions, those issues aside, even senator grassley says she is likely to be confirmed. >> labor groups early on weren't pleased that the president made this decision. all right, jim acosta, thank you so much. ahead on "starting point," parents of one of the young victims of the disaster, recall the moment they knew their daughter was gone forever. >> i just started screaming and running and screaming and saying no. >> the full, heart-breaking interview, top of the hour. and a crime so horrific, hard to describe, on the streets of london. a man butchered in broad daylight on a public road. what we're learning about the attack and motive. top of the hour.
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town. the search for survivors, officially over, and emergency crews shifting into full recovery mode. here is the latest. we have now learned that 13,000 homes were damaged or destroyed in this storm. thousands of people are waking up this morning, homeless. state insurance officials tell us claims are expected to top $2 billion. plus, today was supposed to be the last day of school in moore, oklahoma. today the kids at plaza elementary -- plaza towers elementary were supposed to attend an end of the year talent show. instead, students will say good-bye to teachers for the summer. the funeral for an tonighta candelera is today. she was nine years old. survived by mom, dad, and two sisters. john berman is on the ground with the latest on the conditions there. good morning, john. >> food morning, christine. i'm standing under this tent right now, which isn't doing much to protect us from the
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rain, torrential, torrential downpours here, and the wind is kicking up, and the water is just streaming down the streets behind me. i think you just saw a flash of lightning here too. the storms really bad. it was forecast, people knew this was coming, severe front moving through here. this is not what people need here in moore, oklahoma this morning. they are trying to pick through the pieces, clear the rubble, find anything they can in broken down homes around me right now. and everything is just getting soaked. not even safe for people to be out in cars driving around right now until this storm passes through. you can hear the thunder behind me also, and the kind of constant reminder of the severe types of weather that people in oklahoma deal with every day, but then also get quite, quite dangerous. indra peterson told us the storm front would move through, she was 1,000% right in this case.
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let's go to indra to tell me what we're feeling. >> our worst concerns verified. flood warnings in the area of oklahoma city. including moore. reports of 1 to 2 inches of rain fall en in the area. 1 to 3 inches of rain still possible. and we really want to stress, don't try to drive through floodwaters. six inches of rain is all it takes, or six inches of floodwaters to sweep a person off their feet. one foot of water, small vehicle, two feet of water, a large suv can be taken. we are looking at ripe conditions, a bull's-eye over moore. look at the lightning in the area, currently 15 to 30 miles per hour. another cell moves in right behind it. one after the next. and the ground so inundated with the rain, not able to hold anymore of it. here is the severe thunderstorm warnings continuing to build up for another 45 minutes.
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warnings out there. this is a situation. we'll be dealing with here for the next hour or some of look at the rain. take a look at the radar, heavy amounts of rain. one to three inches of rain on the ground. impressive. -- you saw john standing in there. very heavy rainfall out there people don't have protection, and on top of that, the threat for hail. we've heard of pebble sized hail, dollar sized possible and the strong winds as well. really a lot to be dealing with, unfortunately, john, looks like we'll have it for some time, slight risk area just south of you today. john. >> all right. that's not the news that people would like to hear in moore, oklahoma. i'm standing here under the small tent. uncomfortably close to john king, we need to both be under here right now. if we took two steps out, we would be soaked. you heard a piece of debris flying through. >> already a dangerous situation.
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debris, lightning as indra noted. don't be out in this, driving around and adds to the challenge here. we've seen over the last 24 hours, people trying to get back to their property, trying to find what's left. and as people were displaced, you mentioned, somewhat used to this kind of violent weather, but they don't have their things. most have equipment, better clothing, the boots and everything, but that stuff is gone. >> we see people everywhere in t-shirts, sweatpants handed out here. imagine just having that as you are trying to pick through the pieces of your home. the street behind us, streams, streams of water flowing now, that would be the risk if you are trying to drive around. you should shouldn't be driving through water, that has to be deep in some places. >> if your things are in this mess, now it's going to be muck and, yesterday, they turned on the power in the most devastated areas, put on the electricity, gas back on. this is one of the things they were worried about. think they turned everything off. but the devastation, still a
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risk. fires, rain, and any -- anything like this just adds to what is already the steepest of challenges. >> and it also adds a risk to making television. not a priority to anyone. but if you hear microphones dropping in and out, signal jumping in and out. because when there is such thick cloud cover and heavy rain, it tends to mix with the communication systems and make it difficult. i don't know if you just heard the thunder clapping right behind us. >> and we're in the middle of it. listening, starts off in the distance, hear it, see it, and you can tell from the violence of it, we're just beneath it as it goes. we're in this, showing these houses here, all devastated this is as the town is trying to recover. i was just yesterday at the plaza towers elementary school. to go there is to see 24 people died and in some ways it's a miracle. but not to the 24 families.
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this is a place where seven of moore's next generation lost their lives. a place i can tell you from being there, if you are a parent of one of the children who survived, if and when they see this school, and what's left of it, what little is left of it, they will realize how lucky they are. >> in terms of when people first responsed here, i mean, where did everything go? >> we basically surrounded the school and started running into different areas. some has been cleaned out due to the search and rescue efforts. they are literally climbing over debris. people were yelling for help. so just pulling people out as quickly as possible. and that -- that went on literally for hours. >> this is the classroom that led to classrooms on each side. >> they were connected. >> nothing. there was a wall there. a classroom straight ahead. classrooms out here. you can see there is still tile. >> it's just gone.
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>> this classroom is gone. these classrooms all gone. >> more on the front side too. >> you can see the door leading into what was the classroom. >> front wall of the school. >> is there a place in the school where people fared better? >> you can see where there are still walls standing up. that corner, the map part of the tornado came through this way, so this is the area that took the most as it went through this part here. so that's -- you can see where the walls are standing, where they are not. >> 460-something students, unfortunately, we did lose seven. but by looking at the damage, u.s. a miracle that we din lose a lot more. >> none of this touched. tractors haven't been through. this is how it lanned.
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this has all been searched. this is what has taken through so long. we had to go through all of this and it goes 15 miles the other way, just like this. >> 15 miles of just like this? >> yes. >> and you see the devastation stretching from where the school, unfortunately, sadly -- this is an evil monster of a torn. hit where people were, the youngest were, when you watched that, it just numbs you. the parent who lost children and the parents of churn who survives will be part of the debate about rebuilding and whether there should have been -- even though it's an older school if there should have been a safer shelter there. in the middle of mourning, trying to turn the corner to xleenup and recovery, and just not going to be easy. >> we can see the lightning flashing behind us, thunder blaring and rain pouring down on us. one of the big problems people will have right now, is the
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water, the amount of rain coming down the last few minutes is a lot simply flowing down the streets behind us. not particularly safe to be driving through puddles and streams of this size and the wind is picking up and we're starting to he see some of the small pieces of debris everywhere. that are everywhere in moore. >> remember, the people "lucky," not displaced from their homes, did have damage their homes. structural damage to their homes. now we have falling this on there. >> starting to lose their signal, for good reason. unfortunately if you look at the zoom out wide, all of the lightning, heavy rain, narrowing like a bull's-eye in oklahoma city and moore, and, unfortunately, looks like cell after cell continues to develop right in this area. what does this mean? severe thunderstorm warnings put out. another 45 minutes worth of heavy conditions. heavy rain, 1 to 3 inches of
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rain has already been reported. additional several inches of rain, by no means out of the question, cell after cell develops like this. we were talking about the debris on the ground. severe thunderstorm warning, and not just talking about heavy rain. golfball sized hail. imagine, these people don't have shelter. golfball sized hail ten miles south of the area. could move into the moore area and heavy winds. all of the debris and we're starting to see winds pick up. the debris could become a missile again. unfortunately, a lot we continue to deal with here, as far as the next hour, we'll talk about cell after cell continue to develop. a look at the radar. you can see the swath of heavy rain. when you see rain like this, flooding becomes the concern. flash-flood warnings in the area. that's how much rain they have received. people are trying to seek shelter in their cars, as they drive around in their vehicle, six inches is enough to take people off their feet. one foot of water could sweep
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your car away. very important, it costs us the most lives every single day in the u.s. hopefully people understanding that. trying to section shelter in their cars, such a dangerous situation, move from one to the next, unfortunately, at this point. >> thank you, indra. not far from the severe weather this oklahoma. let's go to john berman. we'll continue to talk about the recovery effort, rebuilding effort really now in moore, oklahoma, as severe weather moves in this morning. severe weather on top of all of this town has gone through over the past few days. now thunder, lightning, certainly some fear among the littlest survivors of this devastating weather. we'll be right back after the break. [ female announcer ] switch to swiffer 360 duster extender,
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welcome back to moore, oklahoma. the weather has taken a severe turn for the worst. severe thunderstorms passing through the area. torrential rain all around us.
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i'm fairly well soaked right now. entire area, water streaming down the street for the time being, the last minute or so, the rain let up a little bit, but the system seems to be moving through and more cells that could be passing through here, so everyone in this town knees to be aware, probably best to stay inside and stay safe. we're being careful. our signal may go out. for the time being, we'll keep on moving on here, the weather making the recovery effort here all that much more difficult, all that much more painful. particularly for people who have lost their homes and in some cases lost even more. i had a chance to sit down with t parents of a student killed at the school. 9-year-old emily conatzer. i met them yesterday shortly after they planned their
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daughter's funeral. let's listen. how are you doing right now? >> trying to stay as strong as we can. as much as we can for something like this. >> tell me about your daughter. >> she was -- she was a fashion diva. she -- she was beautiful, she always twirled around and had little ballerina dresses and she loved lady gaga. that inspired her to be a fashion designer and she would make stuff like this hat for me and made her own skirt. 9 years old. >> i wish i had a chance to meet her. >> she was beautiful. she would have loved you. she loved everybody, she prayed for everybody every night. mommies, daddies, sisters, brothers, not singly, plural. >> you remember monday morning before she went to school? >> we were always in a hurry, she was always late.
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trying to pick out the clothes she wanted to wear. we were late and we actually went up there and had lunch with her every monday, we would come and have lunch with them and we got to have lunch with her. >> lunch at school. >> after the storm, you love close to the school. >> yes. >> you ran right to the school. >> the wind was still blowing. i ran out there. i couldn't recognize -- we walked her to school so much. i knew it -- i could close my eyes and walk. i didn't recognize it. i just started screaming and running and screaming. saying no. >> how did you fin od out about emily? >> we couldn't find her. we waited until 2:00 in the morning, and that's when they
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came and told us that she could possibly be a child that's dead. >> it's something i don't think any parent every wants to think about. today you had to plan her funeral. tell me about that. >> it was the most hardest, but most beautiful thing in the world. we couldn't afford it. and the westhaven funeral -- oh, my god. they paid for everything. a beautiful casket. got her right by the lake with some ducks. >> right next to her friend that died with her. >> and some friends that died with her. >> i want to ask a hard question. it's about the school. a lot of people not from oklahoma, tornado-prone area, that there was no shelter in the school? >> just the basement. >> how does it make you feel, no storm shelter in the school? >> it bothers me. it surprises me, that you could live in a place, and especially
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in moore after the may 3rd tornado several years back, it leveled neighborhoods, it was a big tornado. i figured, you know, as new as those back buildings were that my two daughters were in that they would have something like that in place. that's why i chose to leave them at the school, because i thought they were safe. >> and these nails, she wasn'ted your nails blue. >> she painted my nails. >> the day before. >> she had on matching nail polish. it was the night before, and she had it -- she had it all over the place and i had to clean it up, but i don't want to take it off. >> i would leave those nails on as long as i possibly could. >> i will. >> she sounds like a remarkable, remarkable girl and i wish i had a chance to meet her. so sorry for everything you have been through. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> grieving so much right now. they told me after they planned
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her funeral, at the end of the service, they will have a standing ovation. that's what emily would have wanted. such a diva, such a performer, she would have wanted everyone to stand up and applaud for her and applaud her for her life and our hearts go out to that family and the families of all of the people lost here. we are in moore, oklahoma, right now, a city that is trying to pick through the pieces of the storm here and recover, and it's not made easier by the weather this morning. there are severe, severe thunderstorms passing through the area, there are warnings for flash floods, severe thunderstorm warnings as i said. there was hail, the fear of hail passing through the area. the hail warnings we're being told right now have diminished, that is good news. the rain falling a little bit less hard right now. that is also good news, this town needs all the help it can get to recover to go through the debris and get lives back in order again. when we come back, we'll talk more about the school system here. the plaza towers elementary school. the idea of storm shelters,
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should there be shelters placed in the schools? what more can be done? we'll speak with the assistant superintendent of schools when we come back. c
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welcome back to "starting point." bad weather continues to plague moore, oklahoma. the severe thunderstorm system passing through the area. torrential rains, heavy winds. some areas where there are wind gusts up to 65 miles an hour. this all happening while this town tries to rebuild and put
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the pieces back together. i'm joined by robert, the assistant superintendent of schools in moore. will become superintendent in july. >> july 1. >> thank you. >> thank you for being with us right now. we've heard so many tales of heroism, of the teachers in these schools, and there were ten children who died and one child is too many, but also many lives saved. you have to be proud of the faculty. >> very proud of faculty and staff across the district. the jrn hi we have 23 sites where faculty and staff went above and beyond to protect 23,000 plus children in the district. so they -- they -- it was a miracle in how they handled things, did a great job. >> we've seen the pictures of the devastation, plaza towers
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elementary school. virtually nothing left, and what's the plan? do you plan to rebuild those schools? or are the sites too painful for the community? >> our plan is to rebuild. that's the beginning of the healing process. we've been faced with this before, back in 1999. and the first thing we did was start our rebuilding process, and we will be doing that with these two elementaries, committed to doing that, and, again, that's how we begin the rebuilding and healing process. yes, we're committed to rebuilding those sites. >> a lot of discussion over the past few days around storm shelters. plaza towers didn't have a storm shelter. i had an opportunity to talk to the parents of a little girl that died at that school. many are saying there needs to be a shelter at that school. going forward, would it be something you would support to have storm shelters in every school in the community? >> absolutely would support that
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endeavor. our hope is on these two sites, both briarwood and plaza towers, in the rebuilding process, there will be additional dollars from fema to help us with that. fortunately, on the may 3, '99 tornado, we sustained severe damage at west more high school, lost another elementary, kelly elementary, and when we rebuilt those, fema attached money to put in safe rooms. >> older schools not knocked out in the storm room, would you support going through older schools and making sure there are older shelters there. >> we currently do that year by year with our -- with the city of moore. we have safety management that comes in, tells us where to put students in the safest environment, we will continue to do that, and as funds become available, we will look at that as well. >> money is the biggest
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obstacle. >> money is an obstacle it is. >> let's talk about the positive side. how did the teachers, the staff, what do you do for them, how do you work with them to prepare them for these storms? >> we prepare them, they do semest every drills and safety management comes in, works with them, and they establish perimeters in areas where we need to take students in in those scenarios, a lot of training and preparation that goes into that, and, again, city of moore and oklahoma city help us with that and help us manage those efforts. >> the school year was supposed to end tomorrow. >> actually today. >> today is supposed to be the last day of school. no classes here today. graduation for so many planned this saturday. what are the plans for
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commemoration? >> we will continue with commencement ceremonies on saturday in downtown oklahoma city for all three high schools, we need to make sure that our seniors are taken care of, and they leave their senior year in an appropriate manner and we'll continue on and move forward on with that for them. >> you were thinking about that last week as we sit up there on commencement day? >> it has been an emotional week and again, moving forward and doing what we need to do for our student, it's the beginning of a healing process and this community needs to begin the process, we'll do that, and do the best we can, and make sure that our students are all taken care of. >> assistant superintendent of schools, soon to be superintendent of schools in moore, oklahoma. thank you for being with us. >> you bet. >> standing under a tent here together, because there are severe thunderstorms passing through here, no doubt getting
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[ male announcer ] the classic is back. ♪ i love [ male announcer ] the all-new chevrolet impala. chevrolet. find new roads. ♪ you welcome back, everyone, to a waterlogged moore, oklahoma. we've had severe thunderstorms passing through this area. right now, the rain not falling very hard, a brief respite, we need it. the rain has simply been coming down. torrential here, flooding the streets. difficult to get around over the last hour or so here in moore. there are several guests who are supposed to come where you are right now. couldn't get to us, so much water in the streets in some places, flash-flood warnings and power lines down here and some debris being blown around a bit.
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very slow going in moore, oklahoma, and it is getting in the way of the recovery effort here, not what they need. they need some dry weather here. they continue to pick through the pieces and clear up this rubble that is really everywhere you look right now in this community is behind me. also behind me, streams of water simply flowing down the street. again, the newest here this morning is more severe weather. we hope it passes very quickly. the sky brightening a bit right now. and i don't think you are out of the woods just yet. let's go to cruhristine romans. developing news from london. prime minister david cameron condemning the murder of a british soldier, broad daylight, outside a military baracks. cameron saying britain will never give in to terrorism in any form, and that nothing in islam justifies an attack like that. meantime, the country remains on high alert after the
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gruesome killing yesterday. a suspect holding a meat cleaver, said on camera to a passer by, retaliation for british soldiers killing muslims in iraq and afghanistan. >> we swear by the almighty allah, we will never quit fighting for you until you leave us alone. an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. i apologize that women have to see this. you people will never be safe. remove your government. david cameron will be caught in the streets. you think that he will be in the streets when we start busting our guns? no. >> speaking about us and them, in the clipped british accent. sounds like someone who has lived live there a long time what do we know about who the suspects are? what do officials say happened?
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>> we don't have any names. all we know is that the two attackers are under arrest. they are in separate hospitals, seriously wounded when they were shot by police and apprehended. what we also know is one of them, clearly, when he spoke to the camera, has as you point out, the london accent. clearly somebody who grew up here, spent his life knowledge the people and at least one he tried to attack. this is what is so shocking about what happened. a little bit of an update. david cameron's convoy has entered the baracks just right over there. a meeting with community leaders. this is something we've seen all day. london's mayor, boris johnson, came with police, talked to press briefly about what he is seeing of the investigation, but also the angry backlash that has happened as a result of the attack. take a listen to what he said.
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>> this is not a question of blaming the religion of islam. certainly not a question blaming any aspect of british foreign policy or what our troops do in operation as broad when they risk their lives on behalf of all of us. everybody can see, the fault for this lies exclusively wholly and entirely in the minds of those response i believe for the crime and they are going to be brought to justice. >> reporter: a quick update on the victim. we understand now he was a serving british soldier. that he has been formally identified by family, but they do not want his identity to be reveal at this point. that's why we don't have his name. that may change later. we may get more details, but as the investigation unfolds, the other thing we're trying to find out is the identity of the
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attackers, christine. >> we know you will continue to follow it. thank you. developing this morning here, another major embarrassment for the u.s. military. an army sergeant accused of secretly videotaping female cadets in a shower and bathroom at west point. military investigators are trying to contact about a dozen women, unwit fwl caugtingly cau camera. barbara starr, live at the pentagon. good morning. >> good morning, christine. for the elite u.s. military academy at west point, it doesn't get any seedier, anymore invasive than this. another black eye for the u.s. military. this time an army sergeant first class is charged with allegedly secretly videotaping female cadets in the showers and bathrooms at the u.s. military academy at west point. it went on for nearly three years. his job? to mentor and train cadets. the sergeant's conduct was
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discovered last year. after a criminal investigation, he is now charged with indon't conduct, dereliction of duty, cruelty and maltreatment. the story first reported by "the new york times." the latest in a series of high profile cases of sexual misconduct in the military. president obama is outrages and vowing a crackdown on assaults many. >> he has zero tolerance for sexual assault in the military. and that he believes it is -- that those who participate in it, dishonor the uniform they wear. >> reporter: defense secretary chuck hagel says accountability must improve. >> starting with questions about victims say and rightfully so, that they didn't feel their commanders were accountable, enough to be able to come forward and register a complaint. >> reporter: at ft. hood, texas, another sergeant first class who worked on preventing sexual assault is under criminal
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investigation for allegedly trying to force a female soldier into prostitution, as well as abusive sexual contact and maltreatment of subordinates and jeffrey krysinski arrested on sexual battery charges near the pentagon, where he worked on sexual assault prevention. look, sex crimes happen in civilian society, sex crimes have happened in the military for years. but what commanders are now saying inside the pentagon is they know it is time that they must confront and deal with what they see as an emerging cultural issue, how military women are treated. christine. >> barbara starr, thank you for the report. i want to bring in retired major general james spidermarks, a graduate of the west point military academy this is an elite institution with a seedy,
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seedy, seedy accusation here. is this a culture problem? is there a culture problem in the u.s. military regarding women? >> i think the short answer is yes. a culture issue that doesn't manifest itself all the time, and at all levels. the unfortunate thing at wyss point, you have a noncommissioned officer whose charge it is to mentor young cadet who's eventually will command noncommission officers in combat. we're an army at war still. you establish this relationship of trust and then that relationship of trust is completely shattered when an incident like this occurs and you juxtapose that to what has happened with several senior officers, general officers in some cases in terms of their abuse of their position. so you have this abuse of power that's going on in a very selective, very finite piece and sliver of military, but when you have the abuse of trust, it
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really kind of changes the conversation. you have these aspirant young officers who in many cases have bad examples at the top level, bad examples at the levels that will work for them. so it needs to be addressed across the board, of course, it's no longer business as usual. >> what should they do? you say it needs to be addressed, but clearly, strong decisive action from the top is needed, because leadership -- leadership is what changes cultures. >> you got it christine, you've got it. all about leadership. leaders responsible for what their units do or fail to do and we have an incident here at west point. incredibly egregious. sickening as the father of all girls, having served and led in gender-mixed units, this is totally unacceptable. clearly if there was a single solution that would have already been addressed, put on the table, would have been incull
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pated through the ranks and the military well on its way to getting this thing right. this is multiple levels of involvement. the proposed legislation, frankly, is the right thing to do. the review of sexual assault or rape cases, gets out of the hands of the senior commander, good order and discipline in military units is mission number one and obviously to go accomplish these various nuanced tasks, the fact that we take it out of commander's stands is a good first step. necessary, but not sufficient, so there is a lot that needs to be done at multiple levels. >> major general james spikermarks, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, christine. what is the best sort of action when faced with a tornado? where is the safest place? dr. sanjay gupta goes through the options and we'll continue to watch this severe weather happening right now in moore, oklahoma. severe weather, moving through, again, thunderstorms, lightning, rain, we'll brinyou the
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welcome back to a rainy and
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soggy moore, oklahoma, everyone. the question people around the country are asking, run or take cover? a monster tornado headed your way, really the wrong decision could kill you. not very much time to react. here is cnn's medical correspondent to explain what to do, dr. sanjay gupta. >> jump in when we are ready. >> 13 minutes. that's the average lead time would you have that a tornado is headed your way. no completely safe option during a tornado. your best bet to get in the basement, somewhere below grown level. keep in mind, if you are there, you want to see what's above you as well, furniture or a refrigerator could crash down on you. there is a good option. an senior room or closet like that can be the best place to be as well. the house is gone here, but that
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closet preserved, even the clothes inside of that. remember, just got 13 minutes, so find that safe place. maybe grab a helmet or a bike helmet. throw mattresses or a blanket over you to protect the head. one place you can't hide from a tornado is in your car. tornado strength winds can pick up a 1 to 2-ton vehicle like this one and toss it around, like you or i would a basketball. you don't want to be driving toward a tornado, but also aed bad idea to be driving away from a tornado. it's hard to gage the distance. if you must be driving, and the weather is clear, try driving at right angles to the tornado, perpendicular to get out of the path of the storm. another misconception, you should get out of your car and run underneath an overpass. in a situation like this, the wind is funneled and more powerful than the storm, and there is a lot of debris. >> if you are stuck outside as a torn approaches, find a ditch or any place far away from
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potentially dangerous objects and vehicles and stay low. >> san yjay is here with me now. we got the medical examiner's report and the cause of death of the victim. what struck you? >> weren't as many head or brain injuries as people expected from this sort of thing. they talked a lot about something known as mechanical asphyxiation. a tough thing to talk about, john. basically, this is not a situation of drowning which is the original thought as much as it is, where the lungs are so compressed that some of them can simply not breathe anymore. still eight adults in the big trauma center in oklahoma. three in serious or critical condition. three children still, one in critical condition. a long road in front of them. all of them are in fair condition or discharged. >> good news that so many patients have been discharged. we are pulling for patients that are getting the care that they
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oklahoma, everyone. where the skies are brightening here where we're stanning a little bit and that is wonderful news. there was a system, a severe weather system with severe weather storms have passed through here with torrential
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rain, intense downpours. right now, we seem to be in an island of calm, but most of the severe weather all around us right now. there is still severe weather warnings in a large part of the state. i am joined by pamela brown. pamela, we were trying to get our signal out. you were in a car a little while, driving through the downpours with the lightning. >> absolutely hor rendous, john. we were driving around, huge lightning bolts in the sky. streaking across the sky. never seen anything like it before. i was with someone from the area, and basically unfazed by it. this is just what you expect in oklahoma this time of the year, but it's certainly adding insult to injury, given what we were seeing around us here, and the devastation. we have also seen flooding. so much hard work in, and the first responders and rescuers, volunteers have put so much work in, clearing the roads, you can drive around, and the debris
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came back in the roads, flooding wherever you go. the sky is clearing up, not the case in surrounding areas. >> flash-flood warnings as this was coming down. you can see the devastation, you can see the houses where the roofs are caved in in some cases, no walls and belongings strewn about everywhere. it's obvious when it rains on top of that, everything gets soaked. heartbreaking from the people trying to return homes trying to salvage anything. >> matt hill, his house was destroyed. he went back to try to find an xbox that he bought from his nephew. good thing he went yesterday, today he won't be able to salvage anything, but a lot of it has already been salvaged. i was talking to someone who said at a local church, a table full of pictures that were picked up after the tornado at various homes, and someone came by, one of the survivors, came
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by, looked at the table of pictures, that's my entire family, that's my grandmother, mother, brother. a lot of has been pulled out. but a long way to go. >> hopefully it will dry out for more of these types of discoveries to happen. back in a moment with more from moore, oklahoma. of back pain...rise twe and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪ with command strips from 3m. stick it to eliminate odors anywhere. like this trashcan. in like a flower field. aw man! [ screams ] [ laughs ] stick it almost anywhere. new febreze stick & refresh. breathe happy. is engineered for comfort. like parts that create your perfect temperature and humidity or the parts that purify the air. together, these parts can cut your heating and cooling bills
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