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porsche promote its new $900 go-cart. and "providing solutions for the under 10 mid life crisis" and tank tweeted "because my daddy makes more money than your entire immediate family. follow me on twitte twitter @jaketapper. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to "the situation room." >> president obama and vladimir putin face-off over syria. >> and the nsa leaker in a liveline chat.
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and president obama cannot get away without bad poll results. you're in "the situation room." they don't seem eye to eye and as you see in this video, they're not spending much time looking each other in the eye. president obama and vladimir putin in a showdown over syria. most want russia to stop backing and anding the se-- and arming syrians. let's go straight to cnn white house correspondent briana keilar. not exactly a cold war did ybut does seem like there is a chill in the air.
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>> this was a meeting that lasted for two hours. the u.s., the biggest ally of the syrian coalition, russia the biggest ally of the syrian government. they did agree to push the two sides to the negotiating team soon. here's what president obama said. >> with respect to syria, we do have differing perspectives on the problem but we share in reducing the violence, securing chemical weapons and ensuring that they're neither used nor are they subject to proliferation. and that we want to try to resolve the issue through political means if possible. and so we will instruct our teams to continue to work on the potential of a geneva follow-up to the first meeting.
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>> reporter: now, the date is still to be determined, the conditions are still to be determined. if the two sides sit down, is it under the condition that bashar al assad will leave and there will be a condition to a new government? that's not settled. so president obama and putin not really moving the ball here. yesterday putin was likening the rebels to cannibal. if you compare it to a year ago when president obama and putin last met in mexico at the g20, this was much warmer. it was a very, very icy meeting that they had a year ago. >> it's good to have that perspective, but we all remember last year when the president was caught on the hot mic with president medvedev saying this. >> this is my last election and after my election i have more
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fle flexibility. >> any signs they have that flexibility and that they're using it? >> that had to do with missile defense, the u.s.'s european-based missile defense system. the u.s. eased tension by foregoing the final phases of that. now the president and very much the one who has always been calcal calling the shots, this relationship one that has been tense over the last year and a lot of it has to do with syria. these two sides are worlds apart on this. not just what putin said in london about the rebels and the rhetoric, but also he doubts whether the u.s. claim that the syrian government has used chemical weapons is true. russia is providing arms. they've threatened to provide
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anti-aircraft missiles should the u.s. and allies try to put in place a no-fly zone. no, the ball was not moved today. >> thank you. as world leaders grapple with the idea of arming syria's rebels, we have disturbing new details about al qaeda's involvement in syria. they may have at many as 10,000 supporters inside syria and one source said they are making desperate attempting to gain chemical weapons. fr fred frederik pleitgen has our report. >> reporter: the government is starting pushes to get back.
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this area has seen some of the fiercest fighting in the damascus area. we went straight to the front line to see the house-to-house combat there. we're on the front line with palestinians fighting for the assad regime. snipers do much of the fighting and death can come any second. this is a pro-government sniper position. this fighter just told me he sees a sniper through his scope through-fro from here. we'll wait and see what happens. the man said that took out a rebel fighter. pro government fighters tell me like on other front lines in
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syria, they are now turning the tide, winning background. the commander's name is abu, i ask him who his enemies are. a lot of the fighting happens inside the houses and here only a wall of sandbags separates the two sides. the pro government militia men say the rebels knock the holes in the wall when they own the turf and rigged some of the percentages with explosives when they fled. the men tell us they've just recently retaken this house. the fighters that left here from the other side booby-trapped this entrance here with what looks like a hand grenade. anybody who would have gone through there and triggered that wire there would have been killed. the pro-government fighters say they're angry at the u.s. after
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the obama's administration announcement that it will help arm the opposition. >> translator: we will keep fighting until we get rid of all other insurgents in syria and we're sure that god will be on our side." in breaks from combat, the pro-government militiamen sending the praise of syrian president bashar al assad. emboldened by recent gains on the battlefield but also worried what changes u.s. involvement might bring. jim, you go into these areas and up can just see why this conflict has, according to the united nations, already killed up to 93,000 people, you see the fierce fighting between the two sides, you see a lot of the house there is burned from the inside, a lot of destruction there and still even in that area there are a lot of civilians who are caught between the front lines and have nowhere to go. jim? >> thank you for that eye opening report. >> now, forget about leaving
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notes in a hollow tree or even a secret meeting with deep throat in a parking garage, times have changed. the self-professional claimed nsa leaker is speaking out publicly again, this time in an extraordinary online chat with "the guardian." one thing he did not reveal today, nick, is his wheres about, right? >> reporter: no, no clues on his wheres about, though we can take away from this he does have decent access to the internet. he was online chatting about an hour and three quarters. he had about 2,000 questions lined up, he got through about 1%, 20 of them. he was asked about whether or not he was a traitor, whether or not he was going to give secret documents that he had to the chinese. and i'll quote from what he said here. he said "ask yourself, if i were a chinese spy, wouldn't i have flown directly to beijing? i could be living in a palace
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petting a phoenix now." that was an exact quote of what he said. so knocking down the idea that he's about to give secrets to the chinese, which is a rumor that's been going around. and to dick cheney and the former vice president, who has accused him of being a traitor, he said "this is the man who gave us the warrantless wire tapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warmup on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 americans as well as leaving 100,000 iraqis dead. being called a traitor by dick cheney is the highest honor you can give an american. that is what edward snowden was saying this evening. he was really hitting back, giving details but really pushing back and trying to get his narrative across here. >> and, nick, he really seemed
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to be playing to his audience. there are a lot of edward snowden sympathizers out there, he certainly tossed out a lot of red meat to them, talking about dick cheney. though he talked about the senate's gang of eight, which has more to do with immigration right now than surveillance activities on the intelligence front. did he give any insights during this very lengthy exchange, nick, what his next move might be? >> we really didn't get any clues for his next move. he has indicated he would be willing to sort of follow the justice here in hong kong. we've heard from state media inside china indicating that the chinese in beijing think that the hong kong authorities shouldn't hand him back if they were asked. but he was asked why he came to hong kong and the journalist who asked him that question clearly had an indication that he might have wanted to go to iceland rather than hong kong. but the way that he answered
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this question, snowden said that as an nsa employee, you have to give 30 days notice about traveling so he could only travel at the last minute, only buy a ticket at the last minute. he was afraid of being interdicted on the flight but he said i had to go somewhere where i could get my message out and that was why he said he chose hong kong, jim. >> it just seems that reading between the lines, a lot of planning has gone into what edward snowden is up to these days. >> from the time the news broke at 9 a.m. eastern that snowden would do a live chat, for the next hour there were over 17,000 mentions of the hash tag at twitter. the united states had the most
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tweets, the u.k. came in second. >> up next, it's the latest attempt to solve a four-decade mystery. you're wondering who could that be? is it jimmy hoffa? that's right. and did russian president putin swipe a super bowl ring from the owner of the new england patriots? we'll get into that as well. the great outdoors, and a great deal.
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is this the day they'll find him? >> ah, could be. you never know, jim. but all the action is going on way back over my shoulder and in this direction and on private property. the owners were served a search warrant and are cooperating. in 2006 they dug up a farm and nothing came of it. just last year we were following on another tip and nothing came of that. but this information, these tips do come in from time to time. the difference this time, according to our source with direct knowledge of the investigation, this time they are calling the tipster highly credible. that's because the information is coming from a retired mobster, who was himself convicted of racketeering several years ago. he is now believed to be in his 80s. and he is telling the fbi, according to our source, that he got information from an enforcer, another mobster out
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here in the detroit area, who said that jimmy hoffa back in 1975 was lured to a restaurant, he disappeared from there, thought he was going to a meeting, and that they brought him out here to this site where he was killed and his body buried. that hit ordered by the head of detroit la costra nosa. i asked the head of the fbi who gave me an exclusive interview. didn't say much because the search warrant is under seal. i did ask him how much faith he has in the credibility of this source. >> it reached the threshold of probable cause, which was sufficient to allow us to obtain a search warrant. >> reporter: if it want fairly solid or believable enough, you wouldn't be out here? >> again, using the judicial
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standard of probable cause, if it didn't rise to that level we wouldn't be out here because a judge wouldn't move forward on it. >> reporter: we know there are several acres out there but they are assigning their search to one specific spot. not surprisingly, it's attracting a lot of attention, especially in this neighborhood. all kinds of onlookers what the heck is going on and could it be this time they find the remains of jimmy hoffa? >> you never know. it could be this time. susan candiotti on the scene. >> it is not the first such big for jimmy hoffa. his fate has captured the public's attention since he disappeared in 1975 and our mary snowe is looking into that. >> reporter: jimmy hoffa's disappearance has confounded authorities for decades and
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there's no shortage of fascination with the former teamsters boss. >> i'm going to do what i got to do! >> the life story of the former boss with alleged mob ties inspired movies on the screen. speculation remains about what happened to him. >> jimmy hoffa was an infamous guy, well known in an area that he was particularly well known, and he disappeared from a public place in broad daylight. and vanished without a trace. >> reporter: hoffa was last seen outside a restaurant in suburban detroit in july 30th, 1975. he was supposedly there to meet with a mob figure and a new jersey teamster union head. but the fbi says hoffa was the only one who showed up. since then there have been theories ranging from the
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concept that he wasn't killed to tips about the wheres about of his remains. in 2012 authorities tested soil samples in suburban detroit after someone claimed they saw a body buried the day after hoffa disappeared. there was a claim that his body was buried in cement at new jersey's old giants stadium. the fbi also raised a horse barn in 2006. none of the leads panned out. and by chance hoffa's middle name just happens to be riddle. jim? >> thank you, mary snow. authorities investigate an airline passenger who allegedly claim passengers were poisoned. and president obama can't get away from some really bad poll numbers. why democrats may be worried. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪
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federal authorities bust an alleged scheme to employ undocumented immigrants at more than a dozen 7-eleven stores in new york and virginia. our mary snow is monitoring that and some of the other top stories in the situation room right now. what do you have? >> eight men and one woman from long island are being charged in a scheme, equipping illegal immigrants with stolen identities and stripping them of portions of their salaries. they could face several years in prison for wire fraud, conspiracy and multiple counts of identity theft. >> the thousands of acres burned
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in the most destructive wildfire in colorado's history are now considered a crime scene with federal authorities being called in to investigate the cause of the blaze. the raging black forest fire is 75% contained and conditions may ten to improve with lower temperatures, lie wight winds a rain in the forecast. almost 400 homes were lost, two people were killed. >> and their unruly passenger aboard a flight from hong kong to the u.s. allegedly claimed passengers had been poisoned. an fbi spokesman said the passenger was taken to the hospital for evaluation. no charges have been filed. at the top of the hour, we'll te speak with a person who helped detain that passenger. >> and the blind dissident from
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china said he's now being forced out of nyu. nyu is denying allegations and said his fellowship has always been a one-year assignment and has nothing to do with the chinese government. >> thank you. coming up, president obama cannot get away from bad poll numbers. >> and was tv chef nigella choked by her husband?
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"the situation room." president obama may be focusing on a summit abroad but he cannot get away from some dismal poll numbers. look at this. in just the past month our cnn/orc poll show as complete reversal of the president's approval rating, now at 45% down from 53%. and 54% now approve of how obama is handling his job up from 45%. joining me to talk about this, lori borger and cornell belcher. cornell, you were a big part of the president's reelection team, polling unit. let me guess, these are bad numbers. >> in the context of things, they actually aren't that bad. the time poll had him at 48, bloomberg at 49.
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if you look at congress with a 10% job approval, i think these numbers aren't great but aren't as bad as they could be. >> i think the problem for the president right now is the people always saw him as something separate from official government, they trusted him more than they trust government, they still do but his trust number is down. >> they liked him more. >> they liked him more. now i think they're conflating president obama, government, irs controversy, drone controversy the leak investigation and now he's associated with it. >> to the point, if you go back to '07/'08, gloria, i which i know you remember well, it was the ways of washington must change. that's what we beat hillary clinton over the head with, the
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ways of washington must change. what's going to be problematic for the president long term is that americans are really ticked off about washington and things being broken in washington and the ways of washington haven't changed. all these scandals -- >> but he's in charge of it. >> i know. that's the sort of thing eroding his poll numbers. >> that was the frustration in 2008 and what partly swept the president in office but the voters who embodied that more than anybody else, 18 to 29-year-olds, the youth vote. they went from 65% approval rating to 48% in just one month. >> that's a dramatic shift. >> that's a dramatic shift. coming from the president's pollster? >> one of his pollsters. you seldom seem that kind of shift going on. again, it's all coming out about
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what the nsa is doing. i don't think the president has done a good job about that. >> 18 to 29-year-olds would probably care most about the government looking at their internet -- >> and older people care less because they worry more about the terror attack. and they presume we have no privacy, where for some reason younger people still think there's something called privacy. so this is suddenly the president's terror policies played better with older people than with younger people. >> it's not necessarily the president's terrorism policy, but it's the policies taken up by bush and now by this president. >> but you're saying they wanted change and they didn't get change in this department. glor gloria, you wrote a great column on this. "the president has rightly called for a public debate about
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the proper balance between national security and privacy. but the debate can't happen without him. in fact, he needs to lead it. that's what the president is supposed do when the country is having a national conversation, it's part of the job description." the president is doing an interview with charlie rose tonight. >> he is. but he needs to be the person out there leading it because it is a conversation going on in this country. he needs to lift the veil a little bit. they're going to start declassifying some information about the way this surveillance helped thwart terror attacks. that's great. maybe he needs to let the people know how his thinking changed from when he was a senator on the floor railing against president bush to this point in the oval office. they can't decide about something until they feel they
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know enough about it. you don't want to get into sources and methods and the rest of that but don't you think he has to come out and speak to that? >> it's pillars to that conversation. you saw the head of the nsa coming out -- >> but they've worked for the president. >> now is the time for the president to step out and have a fuller conversation? yes, it is. i think that's what you're going to see. >> we know that the president does not like to do oval office addresses to the nation. you really can't count that many that he's done since he's been in office. do you think from a polling standpoint, from a public opinion standpoint, is now the time for him to perhaps consider that as a possibility? would that go a long way? >> i'm not going to get into the vehicle. you see him rolling out doing a blitz, doing different talk shows. i think it's a good idea overall. this will pass. what will not pass is the ways of washington being broken.
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the president will be hit his brand long term. the ways in washington has not been fixed, has not been changed. >> he hasn't mastered the dysfunction of washington, he's frustrated by it. >> and he's leading the dysfunction of washington. >> over the weekend there were fiery things said about immigration reform. lindsay graham and bob menendez, let's listen to this. >> would i tell my republican colleagues both in the house and the senate that the road to the white house comes through a road with a pathway to legalization. without it, there will never be a road to the white house for the republican party. >> if we don't pass immigration reform and get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn't matter who you run in 2016. we're in a demographic death spiral as a party and the only wach we can get back in the good graces with the hispanic community in my view is pass
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comprehensive immigration reform. >> demographic death spiral. >> this this why the democrats aren't that worried about this or seemingly? >> i think things happen when it's in everyone's self-interest to get it done. at this point it's in everyone's interest to get it done. at some point something's going to happen. i know the house republicans are going to try and block it. i understand that. >> will the speaker put it on the floor without the majority? >> that's the big question. and by the way, the speakership of john boehner could be on the line with that decision. >> if he calls for that vote without a majority. >> i would agree with lindsay graham -- >> you have to admit they've been nicer to the president
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since those dinners. >> maybe he should have been having those dinners a long time ago. >> but there is a problem for the president here if this does not get passed. looking at the entire agenda that he has for the next couple of years, this is the one item that has the best chance of being passed. >> that's right. >> gun control and the others don't. >> from a political standpoint, some democrats would love to see republicans continue to fight on this because we can use it as a wedge issue but long term for the country, it just makes no sense. >> and if you're thinking about legacy, which everybody in the white house is thinking about and you've got the pillars are health care reform and immigration reform, that's not bad. >> and, by the way, economy, an economy that's -- >> and the economy. >> all right, we'll wait and see on that one. it's not quite back yet. >> just ahead, was celebrity tv chef nigella lawson publicly
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questions are swirling about the marriage of celebrity chef nigella lawson after pictures surfaced of her husband with his hand around her neck at a restaurant. her husband is denying any claims he attacked her. cnn's international correspondent matthew chance is in london with the latest. matthew, these pictures just look awful. >> they do. they really illustrate as well, jim, the idea that if you're a
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celebrity, if you're famous it, doesn't mean you can escape the risks of domestic violence. let's take a look at the images that have been really plastered over the front pages of the british newspapers. look at this one in the "daily mirror". you see one of britain most famous celebrity chefs sitting in a restaurant. the restaurant is just behind me over there. that's why we're here in this location in mayfair in son tral london. can you see there's a hand around her neck and she's looking very uncomfortable indeed. that hand belongs to her millionaire husband, who has attempted to play down this. he's issued a statement to the "london standard," saying that there was no grip, it was a playful tiff. the pictures are horrific but give a far more drastic and violent impression of what took plac place.
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nigella's tears are because we both hate arguing, not because she had been hurt. a witness saying they were having an intensive debate about their children when he put his hand on her neck to emphasize a point he was trying to make. the police have not filed charges but they say they are looking at this carefully to see if they need to make any formal investigation. >> thank you very much. coming up at the tom p of the hour, and unruly passenger. >> and a tiny plant making economic and health concerns around the world. >> and a super bowl ring that ended up on the finger of russia's vladimir putin. what happened after that? that's the story coming up. and where's your furry friend?
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it's a discovery that has some families concerned about the bread they're eating and some wheat farmers concerned about the money they could be losing. no surprise, a big search for answers is under way. here's stephanie elam. >> the discovery of genetically modified wheat here in oregon is a concern growing around the world. a wheat plant that simply wouldn't die. the revelation struck fear in some farmers and families and brought more negative attention to a company already in the global cross hairs. >> i knew it was going to be an extremely sensitive issue.
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>> carol mallory smith was charged with testing the plant in this lab. she found it was a did came up positive. >> reporter: on may 29th, the usda confirmed the wheat was genetically modified by the multi-national seed corporation monsanto. the modified wheat was never approved for market and many nations that import america's grains are leery of gmos. japan has even gone so far as to suspend shipments. >> it could lead to a downward spiral if we don't get this fixed, or explained. >> reporter: grower darren padget says just the fear of genetically modify wheat could impact his bottom line, especially since 90% of oregon's wheat crops are exported, most of it to asia. >> your number one cash customer leaves you, that definitely puts
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you in a bit of a pickle. >> reporter: for seven years, monsanto tested its wheat in several states. those trials ended in 2005 and the company says it took precautions to make sure its modified wheat didn't end up in any other fields. >> you don't have 10-year-old wheat seed in the soil emerging ten years later. >> reporter: now a professor and crop expert at oregon state, bob zemetra worked on those studies. >> my scenario is it's an accidental mix, that something was sitting on a shelf and somehow it went from the shelf into the seed. >> reporter: no matter how it happened, it's a nightmare for moms like zen who doesn't think that gmos are healthy. >> these gmos are compromising an entire generation of our children. now i'm really concerned that we're going to need to stop.
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>> reporter: she joined thousands around the world protesting monsanto. >> say no to gmos! >> reporter: so far, no other genetically modified wheat has been found, and even though not approved, the fda says the wheat is safe to eat. varieties of corn and soy are already in use, yet some wheat farmers are suing monsanto, which called the lawsuits no more than lawyers chasing tractors, especially since both the government and the company are still digging for answers. researchers say we may never know how that genetically modified wheat ended up in that field. stephanie elam, cnn, morrow, oregon. when we come back, a poison scare midair. one of the people who helped restrain the unruly passenger making the claims. and a super bowl ring caught in the middle of an international controversy. that story is next. ♪ load! we keep moving to deliver what you need. and that means growth, lots of cargo going all around the globe. cars and parts, fuel and steel, peas and rice, hey that's nice!
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to inspire this "star wars" model. hot shots coming in from our cnni reporters around the world. a super bowl ring is at the center of an international controversy. it started out on the finger of new england patriots owner robert kraft and ended up in the hands of russian president vladimir putin. you may have heard about this story. how it got there seems to be up for debate. john berman has more. >> reporter: vladimir putin is known as something of a tough customer, a tough negotiator. but a jewel thief? you decide. russian president vladimir putin was a kgb expert, and has ballistic missiles. new england patriots owner rabbit craft, he has tom brady. it's pretty much a fair fight, a fight between a nuclear superpower and a football superpower. over all things, jewelry. not just any jewelry.
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it's a brewing international incident over a ring. a super bowl ring. >> i'm tremendously humbled by this great honor. >> reporter: at a gala in new york city last thursday, kraft told the crowd that putin allegedly swiped his super bowl ring back in 2005 when they met in st. petersburg. according to kraft, putin adm e admired the ring encrusted with 124 diamonds and said, "i can kill someone with this ring." kraft went on to explain, three kgb guys got around him and walked out. putin, a thief? a spokesmen says, i was there when it happened, so what mr. kraft is saying now is weird. i was standing 20 centimeters away from him and mr. putin and saw and heard how mr. kraft gave this ring as a gift. maybe it's a case of lost in translation. literally, maybe he lost the ring because of translation.
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or maybe there were bigger global forces involved. the new york post, which broke the story of kraft's comments on thursday, quotes kraft as saying that white house officials urged him to say the ring was a gift. in the interest of u.s.-soviet relations. and now mr. kraft seems to be backing off, a bit. the patriots releasing a statement, it's a humorous anecdotal story that robert retells for laughs. he loves that his ring is at the kremlin and as he stated back in 2005, he continues to have great respect for russia and the leadership of president putin. jim, the 4.94 carat ring is now in a kremlin library, which is where they keep all precious gifts given to the russian government and it seems like that is where it will stay. if it's any consolation to robert kraft, his patriots have won three super bowls, so he's got at least two other rings to keep him happy. >> he does have a few spares. thank you very much, john
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berman. but if you think the story ends there, guess again. our jill dougherty asked the state department to weigh in on the debate today. take a look. >> as far as the state department knows, did vladimir putin steal the super bowl ring? >> i think this is an issue between him and the team, or i guess the president of the team, or the owner of the team. not something i'm going to wade into. >> and there you go. and now ringing in the next hour, my colleague jake tapper with "the situation room." hi, jake. >> hey, jim, thanks so much. happening now, the feds investigate a poison scare in flight. i'll talk to a man who helped tackle a fellow passenger making disturbing claims. plus, the nsa leaker goes after president obama and vice president dick cheney. stand by for his online q&a from an undisclosed location. and dramatic testimony in the whitey bulger murder trial. a confessed hit man says the
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accused mobster broke his heart. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off. i'm jake tapper. and you -- well, you're in "the situation room". we begin this hour with a disturbing new airline scare. a passenger disrupted a flight today making outrageous claims about poison. it happened on a united airlines flight heading from hong kong to newark, new jersey. in a moment, i'll talk to a fellow passenger who helped subdue the man. first, cnn's renee marsh is here with details. >> that's right, jake. we can tell you just six hours left on a flight, a united airlines flight from hong kong to newark, new jersey, today. that's when this man that you're looking at right there on the string stunned passengers in midair. witnesses say he stood in the aisle, made reference to nsa
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leaker edward snowden. the cia. and claimed he had been targeted and poisoned by the u.s. government. that again the claim from this man who was onboard that flight. of course, people who were onboard, they were stunned. several people jumped in. first asking him to calm down. but one passenger says when this man reached for something in his pocket, that is when he got tackled. here's one passenger who witnessed it all. he tells us more about what this man was screaming onboard that flight. >> he said he worked for the u.s. embassy in abu dhabi and he was being detained by the cia and being transferred and his life was in danger. so he repeated that over and over and over again. and was quite loud. but he didn't cause any particular problem with anyone on the plane or on the flight. >> flight attendants restrained him with plastic handcuffs. the fbi says he was taken to a
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hospital and they spoke with one former airline security director who says that they do have security kits onboard for situations like this. also the flight crew is trained for situations like this. we did reach out to united airlines and they did tell us that the crew onboard, they followed the procedures and the plane, of course, landed safely without incident. >> and of course, we know because we hear about these stories all time, this is hardly the first time something like this has happened. >> right, not the first time. we all remember that photo of that man who was duct taped to his chair onboard of a plane. that was back in january. but just this weekend, we had two other cases, two incidents on two separate flights, a man onboard a frontier airlines flight going from knoxville to denver claimed that he had a bomb in his bag. no bomb was found and the man was taken into custody, and then a passenger onboard an egypt air flight from cairo to new york's jfk, they found a note inside of a bathroom saying i'll set this
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plane on fire. again, just two of the latest incidents. but, you know, you get on these planes and you don't expect to get caught up in this midair drama. but we're seeing it more and more. >> some bizarre behavior. we're joined by a passenger on that united airlines flight. thank you so much for joining us. when did you first realize something had gone horribly wrong? >> well, we were on the flight and it probably had been for ten hours already when i heard screams. i got up from my seat to figure out what was going on. and very quickly realized that there was this gentleman screaming that he was -- that he had names of people that work for the cia, and he was screaming those names, not making too much sense, and so, you know, almost in the form of a reflex, i got up along with a few other passengers and at one point, he reached out for
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something in his pocket, in his jacket and that's when about three or four of us basically tackled him to the ground. he resisted and started saying things like "they're trying to kill me, they're trying to poison me," and so the united crew helped us and provided us with plastic handcuffs and that's how we were able to calm him down, and from that, we were able to put him on a seat and sat him down for the remaining six hours of the flight. >> we're looking right now at photographs of him from wabc being escorted out of the plane. let's look at pictures now that you took from inside the plane after he had been handcuffed there. still several hours left in the flight as he sat there. what did he say, how did he act? >> well, at first, he was being very paranoid, talking about the fact that he was being poisoned. he was complaining about the flight attendants, throwing
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darts at him in the back, and he et even made claims about the plastic handcuffs being poisoned. not making a lot of sense. he was screaming a lot. but within 30 minutes or so, he calmed down. when he realized that one of his concerns was that he may have scared some of the children on the plane, both the passenger who was to his right and myself to his left started talking to him about our children and about father's day and things like that to calm him down. and then he went into more of a subdued state, and it ended with him crying and being scared of landing, and we kept telling him you just need to keep calm and be quiet and everything is going to be okay. he was refusing to take medicines that were in his bag and that a doctor onboard had identified as stuff that he
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should be taking. and then when we landed, we were able to have him picked up by the police, and then the fbi came onboard and the district attorney. >> it sounds from what you're saying that this is somebody with a chemical disorder, emotional problems and is supposed to be taking medication but was not taking it for whatever reason. before he started screaming, did you notice any odd behavior from him? >> not before he started screaming. i mean, i didn't notice he was onboard until i, you know, raised my head because i heard screams. >> and lastly, he mentioned nsa leaker edward snowden. what was the context of that? >> i believe that one of the first things he said was that just like the nsa leaker, he had names and therefore he was in danger, and no one was going to let him live with what he knew,
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and that he was a dangerous man to the united states. he begged that we divert the plane to canada. but at that point, we had tied him up on the chair on the plane, so at that point, you know, it was just a question of finishing the flights and landing. >> all right, jacque roizen, thank you so much. we're glad you and everyone else landed safely. >> we were very lucky. >> the nsa leaker apparently is promising that the truth about u.s. surveillance will come out even if he is jailed or killed. the guardian newspaper says edward snowden went online today to answer questions in realtime, although he is still in hiding. there were new claims about his motives, and blame heaped on president obama. let's go to our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence. >> jake, if you believe these new revelations about why he did it, snowden is clearly pointing the finger directly at president obama. he says the president campaigned
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on ending these kind of abuses, but once in office, he claims the president expanded these programs, and he didn't use his political capital the way snowden would have liked him to, such as closing guantanamo bay. one day after being called out by a former vice president -- >> what do you think of edward snowden? >> i think he's a traitor. >> reporter: the accused nsa leaker fired back. saying "being called a traitor by dick cheney is the highest honor you can give an american." "the guardian" newspaper says edward snowden went online from an undisclosed location monday in a live chat to rebuke accusations like this from u.s. officials. >> we don't want to draw a road map for the folks who are trying to kill americans here at home. >> reporter: snowden says i did not reveal any u.s. operation against legitimate military targets. >> the nsa is not listening to americans' phone calls and it is not monitoring their e-mails.
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>> reporter: "i pointed out where the nsa has hacked civilian infrastructure such adds universities, hospitals and private businesses because it is dangerous." snowden was also asked whether he would provide classified material to the chinese. in exchange for asylum. "ask yourself, if i were a chinese spy, why wouldn't i have flown directly into beijing? i've had no contact with the chinese government. i only work with journalists." the government says snowden was just bragging when he claimed he could wiretap anyone, even the president. >> false. i know of no way to do that. >> did he overstate his ability to do these things? >> it's surely my view that he did. >> reporter: but when asked online if one man at the nsa has this power, snowden says "yes, i stand by it." he also dismissed the idea of the surveillance program disrupted plots and helped keep america safe. "ask how many individual communications were ingested to
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achieve that and ask yourself if it was worth it." that's a question his own father may now be asking. in an exclusive interview with fox news, lon snowden made a direct plea to his son. >> i don't know what you've seen, but i just ask that you measure what you're going to do and not release any more information. >> reporter: we'll have to see if that plea changes the calculus, because right now, all indications from edward snowden show that he, one, plans to release even more of this material, and he has no plans to come back to the u.s. voluntarily, jake. >> chris lawrence, thank you so much. in just a few minutes, my interview with glenn green wald, who moderated today's live chad with edward snowden. his reaction to today's revelation. up next, iphone users and other apple customers learn how the company is involved in u.s. government spying. and the man just elected as
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something of a change in tone today. an iranian leader not criticizing the u.s., but instead newly elected president hassan rohani actually offered something of an olive branch. >> translator: the relationship between iran and the u.s. is complicated. it's nothing easy. this has been a very old wound, so we need to think of somehow to heal this injury. >> let's talk things over with christiane amanpour, who anchors her own newscast at 3:00 p.m. eastern on cnn international, and fareed zaccara. you've been covering elections in iran for decades. you wrote a piece on cnn.com saying "people will be tempted to shrug off his win as mattering little in the system where the supreme leader and the iranian revolutionary guard
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corps have the last word, but consider this, back in 1997, i called katami the mullet with a smile and he did make a difference." how much of an opportunity could rohani's presidency present for the u.s.-iran situation if he is taking at least initially this more open approach? >> well, i think it could present an opportunity, it's going to be very interesting to see how they respond to him. he's already used his first public address to the world in the form of that press conference to send very, very clear messages. first, having said that he wants to get the iranian economy okay again for people, he immediately then said his other priority was to pursue a moderate foreign policy, one that was not based on extremism, and as you heard in that little snippet from his press conference, didn't want to -- you know, wanted to ease the tensions with the united states. so look, i think it's important in the spectrum of people who were running. the iranian people once again showed the world that they actually favor moderation.
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they chose a centrist candidate. guess what, the hard line has allowed the result to stand. >> and fareed, of course everyone is comparing hassan rohani to the outgoing iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad. let me play clips from each man. >> translator: we have observed the regulations of the iaea more than our commitments, yet we have never submitted to illegally imposed pressures, nor will we do so. >> translator: of course our programs are fully transparent, but we are still prepared to show further transparent circumstance all the rights of iran, including nuclear rights, need to be recognized by americans. >> so, fareed, beyond the rhetoric, how different are these two as far as their actual believes and approach to the nuclear program that iran has launched? >> jake, they're quite different. they're different in tone. you can see that. they're also different in that ahmadinejad was a layperson,
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whereas rohani comes out of the clerical profession. makes him more capable of navigating. the problem is there's a deep structural contradiction within the iranian system. the president doesn't have much power on these core foreign policy and national security issues. those are held by the supreme leader. remember the last two presidents of iran, by the end of their terms, fallen afoul of the supreme leader completely. katami did start out as a reformist. he's now under a form of house arrest. ahmadinejad started out in some ways as an opponent of the clerical system. he's discredited the supreme leader doesn't like him. so the real question is will the supreme leader look at the results, and as she says, now you have 20 years where the iranian people are basically saying we want conciliation, we want reconciliation with the west, we want to join the modern world. will he look at that data and say i'm going to give this
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president, who has the right credentials, some leeway to try to negotiate with the americans, or will he do what he has done for the last ten years, which is he lets them make these statements, he even lets them explore some things, but at the end of the day, the supreme leader and the revolutionary guard pull back the chain when it seems as though there is an actual concession about to be made. >> looking ahead, what are you going to be looking at for to see if there is a real policy departure here from ahmadinejad? >> well, there most definitely is a departure. there's no question about it. and even today in his press conference, rouhani gave a slap to ahmadinejad, talking about how he's rejecting the politics of extremism, he was directly referring to ahmadinejad whose policies and publicly belligerenbeli belligerence has brought the ire on iran. iran will not give up its nuclear program.
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it wants its right to a nuclear program recognized by the west. but if he is to be believed, they will try to make it more transparent, because what they want, including the supreme leader is for the sanctions to be lifted. it is also a consensus, and i know this for a fact. it's a consensus situation. so it's the leader, it's the president, it's the parliament, it's even the very powerful members of the press and the opinion makers, especially on a hard line side. so i think that it's not as simple as saying the president doesn't matter, it's just the leader. i think it's a group. plus the hard liners have sent their congratulations to rouhani, including the revolutionary guard. i think there will be a change of public countenance and that should give an opportunity. but don't look for iran to try uncle or bend over and capitulate because it won't happen. he said look, we want the make things better with the u.s. but it has to be based on areas of mutual interest, dignity for
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iran, and we're not going to just sort of submit to, as he called, the bullying that we feel we've been put under for the last several years. >> thank you so much. coming up, another day, another canadian mayor makes front page headlines for all the wrong reasons. what is it about canadian mayors these days? also, a convicted murderer gets out of prison and the victim's grandson is delighted. wait until you hear what they plan to do together. i don't want to pour over pie charts all day. i want to travel, and i want the income to do it. ishares incomes etfs. low cost and diversified. find out why nine out of ten large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus, which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. vo: ta friend under water is end usomething completely different.
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this just in, the cnn authorities have confirmed a shark attack this afternoon just
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off surf side beach, texas, a 15-year-old boy was in waist deep water when the shark bit him on the legs. the boy hit back with his hands. the shark bit down. he was air lifted to a hospital. he's in stable condition with lacerations, but they are not life-threatening injuries. you're looking at pictures from our affiliate kprc of the beach in question from earlier today. mary snow now has a quick look at some of the other top stories in "the situation room." the supreme court today struck down a controversial part of arizona's voter registration law. a 7-2 majority ruled the state's demand for proof of citizenship to register is trumped by 1993 federal law which requires states to accept and use a less restrictive national voter registration form. supporters of arizona's law argue it would prevent voter fraud. it's turning out to be a tough year for canadian mayors. montreal's interim mayor michael
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applebaum was arrested today and charged with more than a dozen crimes relating to real estate transactions between 2006 and 2011. applebaum took over last november after montreal's previous mayor resigned due to corruption allegations. toronto's mayor rob ford also has been in the news lately, repeatedly denying allegations that he smoked crack cocaine. and finally, an amazing story of forgiveness. convicted murderer paula cooper got out of an indiana prison today and the grandson of the woman she killed wants to take her shopping. cooper served 27 years and once was the youngest death row inmate in the country. she was 15 when she killed 78-year-old ruth pelky, a bible teacher in the mid 1980s. her grandson not only forgave cooper, they met in the 1990s and now they e-mail each other every week. >> i have told her when she got out of prison, i'd like to buy
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her a computer and have a friend that would like to buy her some clothes, so we'll get together within the next few days and go shopping. >> pelke says that cooper wants to work as a cook and teach young people how to avoid the pitfalls of life. pretty amazing story. >> yeah, incredible. up next, the nsa leaker's fears of being jailed or killed will take you behind the scenes of his online chat today. and apple opens up about nsa's find. hoo-hoo hoo. sir... i'll get it together i promise... heeheehee. jimmy: ronny, how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? ronny: i'd say happier than the pillsbury doughboy on his way to a baking convention. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
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another brazen move by the nsa leaker. we have more now on the online chat edward snowden apparently conducted while in hiding today. "the guardian" newspaper says it was snowden who was answering questions live for 90 minutes. for more, let's turn to glenn greenwald who has been breaking the snowden leaks for "the garden." he also moderated snowden's live chat today. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> he said "the u.s. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. truth is coming and it cannot be stopped." to a lot of people, that murder suggestion seems like a rather outrageous charge. is there any evidence that snowden's life is in any danger? >> if you read news accounts of what u.s. officials are telling journalists, they seem to think that if he turns over to the chinese government or some
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foreign government what is in his possession and what is in his head, and there's no evidence that he intends to do so and he flatly denied having done so, but u.s. officials are saying if he were to do that, it would be one of the gravest and most cataclysmic injuries to u.s. national security ever, and so he's concerned that the only way they might think to stop him is to physically stop him. i don't know of any evidence that they intend to do so. they have certainly targeted u.s. citizens in the past whom they perceive as a threat to national security, but what he's really saying is putting me in prison or killing me won't in any way prevent this information from being disclosed. it's just a safety mechanism that i think he's using because understandably so, he's fearful in his situation. >> when you refer to the u.s. government having targeted people for national security reasons, you're meaning -- you're talking about anwar and that type. >> right. i'm not suggesting at all that the u.s. government would do that here or is going to. i'm saying from his perspective, one can understand why that
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concern is in his head. >> snowden seemed to be initially saying that he was releasing this classified information because he wanted the public to know specifically about the surveillance being done of americans, but the leaks of the past few days, particularly the latest revelation that the nsa was spying on the russians, these are the sorts of things we expect the nsa to be doing. how is that whistleblowing and how does aiding a non-democratic sometimes adversary of the united states aid the cause of civil liberties here at home? >> i would say two points about that. number one, i don't think his principle or only concern is that the u.s. is spying on its own citizens. he was very worried that essentially what the nsa was doing is destroying privacy globally. that by working with other governments, that by targeting citizens around the world, that they were destroying the concept of privacy and anonymity and internet freedom and creating this worldwide global surveillance net from which
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really nobody on the planet was free. but as far as the story that you just referenced, i think it's really important to understand the process here. he went through the documents and he found the documents that he thought were of public interest, including documents that described various government surveillance capabilities on the grounds that the public should know what they're able to do so we could have a debate about limits. he gave those documents to the "the guardian" through me as well as "the washington post" with the instruction that we should all exercise careful journalistic assessments and make the choice about what should be published and what shouldn't be. so if there's an article that ends up in "the guardian" or "washington post," it really isn't there to blame ed snowden for that. it's the newspaper that published it and the story that you referenced contained very little about russia. the idea was the british government spied on its allies at an economic summit in london. you can debate whether or not that's a legitimate article to publish, but that decision was
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made by the guardian's editors and not by mr. snowden. >> lastly the white house chief of staff was on cbs over the weekend and he took issue with the suggestion by snowden and others that these surveillance programs are illegal and that there have been abuses and he argued as the administration has that congress has oversight and they are brought into the loop, these specific committees, but also when it comes to specific white papers, members of congress are invited to see them in 2009 and 2011, that there is a court, a fisa court, and that there are also inspectors general. they would take issue with the idea that there are abuses and that these are illegal. your response? >> totally false. just look at what they've been saying. they're democrats on the senate intelligence committee. they've been desperately trying to get the public to be aware of the fact that there were serious abuses going on in this program given the obama administration's secret laog, as they were talkig
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about it, and they were constrained from doing anything about it. this oversight law is impotent. it's symbolic. even the senators are barred by law from doing anything about it. as far as the fisa part is concerned, this is so crucial. the nsa does not need individual warrants to listen in on the communications or read the e-mails of american citizens when they're talking internationally to people overseas. they go once every six months to the fisa court. the fisa court rubber stamps these vague guidelines that the nsa says they're using to make sure they're complying with the law. once that happens, the nsa can force telecoms and internet companies to give them whatever they demand under the guise that the fisa court has blessed their guidelines. so this oversight that you're talking about does not involve looking over the shoulder of the nsa to see who they're spying on or making sure that they're not abusing their power. it's very symbolic and empty oversight that really ought not to give the assurances to anybody that these powers aren't being abused. >> glen greenwald of "the guardian," thank you so much for your time. >> thanks, jake.
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we got a new glimpse today at the scope of the government's phone and internet surveillance. apple says it received as many as 5,000 requests for customer over a six-month period all coming from u.s. officials. cnn's brian todd joins us. what can you tell us about this? >> jake, what we don't know right now, what neither apple nor the u.s. government is saying is how much of the information apple actually turned over to the government. given apple's share of the internet product market, we're also left to wonder just how much more of our data it may hand over in the future. in the last quarter, it sold more than 50 million ipads and phones. it's got hundreds of millions of active users of its products. it's now the latest high-tech company to disclose that it's been involved with the u.s. government's internet surveillance program. apple says it got between 4,000 and 5,000 requests for customer data from u.s. law enforcement agencies during the six months ending in may. that covers 9,000 to 10,000 accounts or devices. apple says most of the requests
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were from police, investigating robberies, abductions and other crimes, trying to prevent suicides. but some were for national security matters, although the company did not say how many. >> privacy cloaks the whole thing. we don't know what the government is asking for, how often they're asking it for, and what legal authority they cite for doing it. >> mark rash is a former cyber crime reporter. >> what kind of data would they be tapping into? >> even without e-mail, apple collects a tremendous amount of information about people. if you lose the icloud service here, it will take information that you put on your iphone anywhere you are, like your calendar functions here already copied here. your contact list will be copied here. e-mail, notes, things like that, all get copied on to the cloud and are available for law enforcement or intelligence purposes almost immediately. >> reporter: microsoft and facebook disclosed in recent days that they also got requests from law enforcement for users' data in the second half of 2012.
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we pressed apple to tell us how many of those 4,000 to 5,000 requests it actually complied with. we didn't hear back on that. by comparison, facebook says it got 9,000 to 10,000 data requests from the government in the last half of 2012. facebook told us it complied with almost 80% of those requests. i asked chris segoya what happens if a company doesn't comply. >> ultimately, if the government has the right kind of court order, if the company pushes back too much, the company will get sued and it will get settled in court. >> reporter: we contacted the major u.s. intelligence and law enforcement agencies to comment on this, asked them to break down how many of the requests to apple came from each one of them. they either wouldn't comment or referred us to the justice department. justice also wouldn't break those numbers down, referring us to an earlier statement saying it used the right legal processes in these requests and that a very small number of accounts were targeted. jake? >> brian, we also know that
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apple did not provide some information that was requested, but that also has some sort of qualifier. >> that's right. it's kind of hard to tell one way or the other. apple did say they didn't turn over the imessage or face time conversations because it didn't record those and those are also protected by end-to-end inkripginkripg made a point of saying they didn't turn those over, but they didn't really have them to turn over. >> brian todd, appreciate it. coming up, at the start of the g8 summit in northern ireland, some delegates may be worried that britain is spying on them. and we're looking into allegations that a 94-year-old minnesota man is really a nazi war criminal. his family says the charge is false. we are all reflections of the people who came before us. the good they did inspires us, prepares us
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welcome back to "the situation room." as the united kingdom hosts world leaders for the g8 summit, some delegates wonder if anyone will be listening in. "the guardian" reports british intelligence officials snooped on the summit in london. tom foreman is here to look into all of it for us. >> is that you lurking outside my office listening earlier today? >> i don't do it with technology. i just have a glass. fred flintstone style. >> up to 2,500 participants came to this conference to talk about the world banking crisis, but as they met in the excel exhibition center in london, this is their website, this part of the building, "the guardian" newspaper says british surveillance teams were listening in, electronically spying on them. how? first by tapping into their
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blackberries to intercept messages and calls. the paper says that gave 45 intelligence analysts 24-hour updates on who was talking to whom. of course, that would have given british negotiators a real edge in their discussions there. second, the british set up convenient internet caves around the venue, so participants could easily search the internet and communicate with their home countries. only problem, again, according to "the guardian," those caves were wired so that each key stroke by someone inside was recorded so the electronic spies were redding people's e-mails, even before they do. jake? >> was this surveillance used against everyone who attended regardless of what country they were, whether it was an ally or a sometime ally or a potential threat? >> it's not really clear who all was targeted in this whole thing. we do know some that seemed to have been specific targets that received special attention,
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including the turkish prime minister -- the turkish finance minister and more than a dozen people in his group. also on the list, some of the people in the south african delegation, and here's the big one. attempts were apparently made by american forces there to crack into the code of the phone of medvedev from russia. so quite a huge number of big targets out there, who i'm guessing are making a lot of phone calls right now, jake, to talk this over. >> tom foreman, thank you so much. still ahead, the accused mob boss versus the confessed hitman. dramatic testimony against whitey bulger at his murder trial. your premium with this thing.y i thought state farm didn't have all those apps? where did you hear that? the internet. and you believed it? yeah. they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true. where did you hear that? [ both ] the internet. oh look. here comes my date. i met him on the internet. he's a french model. uh, bonjour. [ male announcer ] state farm. more mobile than ever.
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now for a story with all the drama of "the godfather" or "goodfella "goodfellas"."." whitey bulger is finally on trial in boston. deborah feyerick is there. deborah, what did the witness say? >> reporter: very serious testimony, but at one point, you almost got the feeling he was going to say "leave the gun, take the cannolis." he testified to at least eight murders in which he links james "whitey" bulger. he was brutal in his detail, describing one murder that was so bloody, rather than bury the body, he actually just went home to change. the jury listened with rapt attention. describing one murder after another, cthis confessed
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killer -- when he learned james whitey bulger was an fbi informant, he said "it broke my heart, it broke all my loyalties." bulger stared straight ahead, while his former friend less than six feet away described how they would carry out their hits. in one case so close, he felt the bullet nicing over his head. "we would follow that car, and when we caught up, we pulled upside and gave it what you called a broadside, both guns shooting at once. under his plea deal, he served 12 years in exchange for fully testifying against bulger and rogue fbi john connelly. connelly promised bulger's powerful brother and later massachusetts senate president billy bulger that he'd keep whitey out of trouble. bulger began giving the rogue agent money and gifts, including diamonds -- a relationship that lasted for years and led to
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several murders. and one reason that he was so lethal to whitey bulger's case, because he knows exactly how many bodies there are and where those bodies are potentially buried. he testified against that rogue fbi agent john connelly, putting him away for ten years in federal prison and then another four years because he was able to link him to leaking information that led to the murder of a florida businessman. jake? >> you say this witness literally know where is the bodies are buried. what is the defense strategy for undermining him? >> they're going to try to make it seem like he's a liar. they're also going to try to make it seem that he was the one who was always pulling the trigger. that in fact, whitey bulger was just sort of along for the ride. these are two men who was inseparable. the jury is going to have a hard time believing that, because it looks like whenever they did a hit, it was well-executed. bulger knew exactly how it was going to play out. one thing that is interesting is
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they were looking to kill a man who they felt had betrayed them, and the interesting thing is, he says, we shot one guy, it was the wrong guy. we shot another guy, it was the wrong guy. so cold and so sort of factual. it's almost as if you are talking about going food shopping. we'll get a chicken, we'll get a steak. it was so matter of fact. that's what made it so riveting to listen to. now to allegations that have people in minnesota second-guessing everything they knew about a longtime neighbor. he's 94, but the u.s. justice department has just been asked to investigate allegations that he is hiding an old connection with the nazis. here's cnn's miguel marquez. >> is he or isn't he, the allegation that 94-year-old hid his nazi past for nearly 70 years has shocked this minneapolis suburb. >> the nazi thing was big, you know? i would feel differently.
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>> reporter: the allegation begins with his own memoir, published in ukraine, he admits he helped found the ukrainian self-defense region, an off shot of the bree tall division. his son insists his father is innocent. >> the associated press intentionally and maliciously defamed our father. >> reporter: it is alleged that michael karkoc was in charge of the nazi directed division when it nearly wiped out the population of the polish town. and even the associated press admits there is no evidence mr. karkoc was directly involved in any of it. >> to quote ap, records do not show that karkoc had a direct hand in war crimes, end quote. my father was never a nazi. >> reporter: still, the ap says
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it sticks by its reporting and the u.s. department of justice will only say it looks into all credible allegations of nazi war crimes. if this one is found to be credible, crying mr. karkoc in court could be a long process. a very long process if these charges move forward, mr. karkoc would have to be denaturalized, deported and tried in either germany or poland. miguel marquez, cnn, los angeles. next, some armor its former owner no longer needs. jeannie explains how you can get it for your own guinea pig. to eat. then rest. to fuel the metabolic cycle they were born to have, purina one created new healthy metabolism wet and dry. with purina one and the right activity, we're turning feeding into a true nature experience. join us at purinaone.com
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test. it's horrible. >> the ebay description reads is your pet guinea pig tired of wandering around the house unarmored and vulnerable? has your guinea pig ever wanted to go with you to a renaissance fair but had nothing to wear? turns out he bought the helmet at a renaissance air. >> i'm really perfect. it's like guinea pig size. >> some suggested lucky should have been buried in his noble suit of armor.
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it wasn't lucky's favorite 24i7k. >> he hated it. it's pretty big and heavy. >> actually he'd worn it only once for about ten minutes while sean took these photos. he kept fidgeting and squeaking and then suddenly stood still in a perfect pose. >> the reason he was fidgeting is because he had to go to the bathroom. the reason he stood still is because he was going to the bathroom. the finest moment. >> though lucky wasn't much of a swordsman a fan on the website read it, sketched him ready to do battle. bids on his suit of armor jumped from $400 to over $800 in hours and continued to climb. so what if sean has to put up with jokes. >> did you have a guinea pig jousting tournament? >> closest lucky came to jousting was fighting his bars. jeanne moos, cnn. >> he was a special guy. >> new york. >> okay. we just checked the ebay page and the guinea pig's suit of armor already is ove

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