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all right. everybody. that is it for "new day." thanks for being with us. "cnn newsroom" with carol costello begins right now. >> good morning, chris. i understand you'll be with us in five minutes. the rest of you, have a great day. >> take care. good morning, everyone. "newsroom" starts right now. happening now in "newsroom" -- >> we want you to disperse. >> outrage, furry. protesters take to the streets overnight. police firing bean bags to disperse angry protesters over the george zimmerman verdict as
calls for the feds to take up the case are heating up. >> there is reason to be concerned that race was a factor. >> if someone believes it is appropriate to see george zimmerman, then we will seek and we will get immunity in a civil hearing. plus, another snowden bombshell? "the guardian" reporting the nsa leaker has a blue print on how the nsa operates. also, he was considered the gloom of "glee." ♪ cory monteith found dead at the age of 31. and a desperate rescue to save a 6-year-old boy swallowed by a sinkhole while playing on a sand dune. you're live in the "cnn newsroom."
and good morning, thank you so much for joining me. i'm carol costello. the george zimmerman verdict is in, but the case is far from over. from sanford, florida, to the san francisco bay, protesters rallied against his acquittal in the fatal shooting of unarmed teenager trayvon martin. most of the demonstrations were peaceful, but things did turn tense and ugly in los angeles. this is what it looked like last night. some protesters pelted police with rocks and batteries and officers responded by firing bean bags into the crowd. but the biggest fight may now shift to a federal court where zimmerman could face new charges. cnn's george howell is in sanford. tell us what federal prosecutors are considering. >> good morning. we're talking about the department of justice. even heard from reverend jesse jackson saying that another investigation is necessary. now we're hearing from the naacp
president who told cnn's candy crowley on "state of the union" that he's reaching out to top level staff. want you to listen to it. >> we're calling on them to do just that because when you look at his comments and when you look at comments made by young, black men that lived in that neighborhood about how they felt, especially targeted by him, there is reason to be concerned that race was a factor in why he targeted young trayvon. >> now, you heard in the set up there from defense attorney mark o'mara saying we will speak and get immunity. part of the stand your ground clause of self-defense. that statute here in the state of florida. he's basically saying if you come at him with a lawsuit, he will seek and get immunity through that particular clause. >> the federal department of justice is investigating whether it will, indeed, press charges.
hasn't decided yet. we're getting an idea of george zimmerman's future plans. he remains in hiding, but does he have plans? >> well, you know, what we know at a this point, very little. first of all, that he doesn't have a curfew, carol. you remember that he had that 10:00 p.m. curfew. doesn't have that any more. doesn't have to wear that gps ankle bracelet either. he is now truly a free man this monday. however, we know that he will have to remain in hiding. his attorney said that george zimmerman has received death threats. he'll have to watch out for a safety and look over his shoulder because there is a group of the population that feels strongly about, you know, this verdict. they don't agree with it and they say and his attorney says that zimmerman will always have to just be careful moving forward in his life. >> george howell reporting live from sanford, florida. in the next hour of "newsroom" i'll talk to a leader of the naacp she along with her organization is pushing for zimmerman to be charged by the department of justice.
she will be with us live at 10:30 eastern. among those echoing the calls for calm this morning, george zimmerman's defense attorney mark o'mara spoke with us live. chris, what did he say? >> he took the opportunity, he didn't have to, the case is over. he wants to deal with the open issues in the case, which he believes is driving a lot of the outrage. we off aered that perspective of why people are upset about the verdict. and he informed on all the issues, whether or not you agree with his answers is up to you. but we wanted to provide the opportunity. and it was interesting, carol, one thing he did mention is that he knows from his days as a prosecutor that the system can be unfair to african-americans, specifically youths. he just said don't make this case an example of that. take a listen. perhaps many people don't equate what happens to you when you get beat up with the proper justification for taking
someone's life. >> and that's a frustration that people have and i share it with them because this is my life and i deal with this every day. when you have to look inside somebody's head. in this case, they had to look inside george zimmerman's head. as he was on the ground with somebody unknown on top of him doing basically whatever they were doing to him and him not returning any blowing, you don't know that the next shot on concrete isn't going to be the one that sends you unconscious. you are allowed to react to your reasonable perception of potential injury and i think anybody in that set of circumstances screaming for help for 45 seconds will say that they acted reasonably in stopping the attack. >> because at that point, legally, you are allowed to use lethal force to protect yourself? >> george zimmerman did not want to shoot anybody. i think it's a testament to the fact that he didn't want to shoot anybody that he went through 45 seconds of screaming for help before he did. i wish people would look at it
through that filter. i think they'd understand a very unfortunate and tragic circumstance of that very night. >> taking a half a step back. we talked about the 911 operator saying to mr. zimmerman. you don't need to do that. we don't need you to go after him. then he goes after him anyway. you think that that is something that george zimmerman wishes he could take back, that decision? >> he's gotten criticized because he said he wouldn't have changed anything. does he wish he never gotten out of the car and went to target? absolutely. but, let's remember that he got out of the car at the precise moment after the 911 or nonemergency operator said, where's he going? where is he going now? he said that on three separate occasions. it is a tragedy and i don't think it was george zimmerman's fault in the way this thing unfolded. >> you know, carol, look, one of the things, a choice we have to make as journalists is what do you do with the questions that still remain?
the case is over, do you let them lie? i think it's a mistake. i think as long as people have questions about the verdict, it will fuel the outrage and you want to do the best you can to inform the public why this verdict happened the way it did. the burden in court is very high, much higher than people expect. we try to make it as difficult as possible to convict people here, that's what the whole presumption is about. we appreciate mr. o'mara taking the questions head on. >> a lot of people are dying to hear from the jurors because certain questions can be answered by them. they are under court order to remain anonymous. at one point, will their names be made public? >> it's dangerous. look what's happening surrounding this case. the really doesn't have to do with the facts and law as it was adj adjudicated at trial. it rested on these jurors' shoulders. they took their time. so many legal experts would tell you that they were surprised by
the charge and what the prosecution wasn't able to show in a court. you only know what they show. they thought it was going to be very difficult for an acquittal and still took 16 1/2 hours and that lets you know they were painstaking and meticulous. i think we give them their privacy because we do not want them to be symbolic of anybody's outrage. >> chris cuomo, thanks so much. also this morning, we'll hear from prosecutors. vinnie politan is interviewing the entire prosecution team and scrambling right now to bring you some of that sound. we'll take you live when it's available. more now on the edward snowden saga. glenn greenwald told an argentinian newspaper, snowden still has information that would be the united states "worst nightmare" if revealed. the nsa blueprint have been given to several people and warn
the u.s. government if they would be released if anything happens to snowden. he has requested temporary asylum in russia. his director called him tgle of "glee." ♪ the talented 31-year-old actor was found dead saturday in his hotel room in vancouver. the cause of death is not immediately clear. but police have ruled out foul play. monteith long struggled with addiction and spent time in rehab. nischelle turner is following the story from new york. what is the latest? >> the director called him the glue of "glee" and the moral compass and the clean cut image on the show he did live a troubled life. this wasn't the case of a child star. he was in his late 20s before he
became a star on "glee" but unlike that alter ego, he did have a troubled childhood and cory monteith described himself as a drug abusing teen who was skipping school to drink and smoke pot by the age of 13 now. carol, really interesting because "glee" is about kids struggling to fit in and cory monteith about how he struggled with his self-image and struggled to fit in and you mentioned he continued to suffer his demons. earlier this year he checked himself into rehab. we should make it clear here that investigators have not tied his death to substance abuse. vancouver police have already ruled out foul play. they'll conduct an autopsy to determine the cause of death later on today. >> hopefully we'll find out something soon. nischelle turner, thanks so much. >> absolutely. we are waiting to see if today will be a repeat
performance. the nasdaq closed at its highest level in a decade. alison kosik at new york stock exchange. tell us more good news, alison. >> you may see the bulls see more of a charge and a charge out of the gate when the openin bell rings in 20 minutes. not much is needed to break some new records because if the dow and s&p 500 even close just a couple points higher today, it will mean more record highs for both. you look at the dow, it settled at record highs, 25 times so far this year. and it's only july. and after churning for much of june, a pretty good run up recently gaining 660 points over just the past three weeks. that's amazing. today a boost is expected to come thanks to some data out of china showing inline with estimates. here in the u.s. we learned estimates edged up and came in a little weak and caming e in hal what was expected. looking at the dow to open about
30 points higher. once again, in about 20 minutes. carol? >> we'll get back to you, alison kosik live at the new york stock exchange. could today be the day that the third direct heir to the british throne makes his or her debut? royal baby watch is in full swing. the duchess of cambridge is due any day now and journalists, as you might expect, are camped outside the london hospital, including our own royal correspondent max foster. tell us, set the scene. >> the sun is getting to us a bit, carol. i have to tell you. we need this baby to come sooner rather than later. the great kate wait. a hash tag developed here over the weekend on twitter and pretty much express and we give you a look around. people over there. sun chairs out. there is no indication of when this baby is coming. mid-july, though, is the best indication we've had.
we're hopeful. and we know that prince william, i was told this morning, is taking a few days off work. we're trying to read between the lines here. in the meantime, we have become the tourist attraction. you know, you missed them. all day we had tourists coming to the pavement taking pictures of us. >> yeah, tourists saying those silly, silly journalists. the baby is going to come and when it comes, they can go back. >> i know. where is the logic, i don't know. >> thank you, max. we'll get back to you if something happens. i'm dying to know myself, though. just ahead in "newsroom" the jurors in george zimmerman's murder trial ever speak out? we're hearing from everyone except the six women that found him not guilty. do those jurors owe the country an explanation for how they reached their verdict. the answer to that question, next. stacey: my daughter zoe had her first open heart surgery...
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they will sue a san francisco television station. they weren't the pilots' names. the names were broadcast friday after being mistakenly confirmed by an ntsb intern. in sports news, the profootball hall of fame has taken down the picture of aaron hernandez. several visitors complained about the photo which showed him celebrating a touchdown. hernandez has been charged with the june 17th shooting death of odlin lloyd. >> this jamboree is going to involve things we've never seen before. it is going to be a totally new experience. looks like fun. jamboree 2013 starts today in west virginia and the first requiring boy souts and boy scout leaders to meet body max index standards based on their height and weight to be eligible
for intense physical activity. this year's jamboree more demanding than in previous years. no word yet from the six women who decided that george zimmerman was not guilty of murder or manslaughter in the shooting death of trayvon martin. the jurors remain anonymous and countless questions about the verdict that only they can answer. criminal defense attorney page pate and beth cars karas in is york. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> could the jurors remain anonymous forever under court order? >> they can. jury anonymity protected under state of florida law and if you want to have that. if jurors thought by serving and doing their civic duty that their identity could be broadcast and people could know who they are, then i think you would have a problem with people wanting to serve.
it can be protected. >> beth, i understand that during trial, but after the trial when everything is over and we live in a transparent society, should jurors remain anonymous? >> well, it really is kind of contrary to florida law. i mean, they have a very open policy there when it comes to their court records, police records. it's very easy for the public to get a hold of documents there in advance as opposed to other states. the defense has asked that the jurors in this case remain anonymous for six months. just as the judge did in the casey anthony case. he ordered that. the media has already filed a motion a couple days ago saying, look, don't make a decision on not releasing the jurors' names until we have a hearing on this because we have a right to know who these jurors are. so, we'll see what judge nelson does. she may have a hearing on it. but as far as i know, she hasn't ruled yet. i do think people know who these
jurors are. i covered trials for 20 years across the country and usually the people in the media know at least some of the jurors and they'll speak out eventually. >> but in this case, it's a court order. we're not allowed to contact these jurors. what would happen, page, if a juror did? >> contempt of court. the judge can bring you into court and say, look, i told you not to do this. i can fine you or even send you to jail. >> beth, you mentioned the jodi arias trial we heard from jurors in that case despite their wish to remain anonymous. >> i'm sorry, i meant casey anthony. those jurors have spoken out. there was no order there. and a number of them have spoken out and everybody knows who they are. the media there worked for months. it was a five-month trial. i meant casey anthony. i apologize. in casey anthony the judge said because there was so much against the jury, people really blamed jurors for that
acquittal. they were protected for six months. their names were eventually released. i think maybe the following october or later. >> look, page, these protests are going on all across the country, tensions are very high and the jury, the jury members, they have a chance to kind of settle things down because only they can answer questions about why they found george zimmerman not guilty. for example, was it florida stand your ground law? was it something else? did they think race did not factor in? did they think race didn't factor in under the law and that's why they made their decision? if these jurors would answer these questions publicly, might it not help calm things down? >> i think so. i expect one juror will eventually come forward and in my 20 years of trying these cases, i never had a situation where the jury didn't want to talk about what they did. they know they've been under a lot of scrutiny and this trial watched by millions of people. i think they want to explain how they reached their verdict and i
expect someone will. >> beth, i want to make it clear why the jury might not want to come forward publicly because there have been several angry tweets kind of attacking them, not in a good way. >> yeah. social media is playing a role now that is actually very troubling in these trials. and we saw threats against witnesses in the jodi arias, now i do mean the arias trial and it is problematic. are they empty threats? yeah, maybe. but they are frightening. i do agree with page, though. jurors do eventually come out, at least one. and i think that they'll at least one will come out to say, look, we followed the law. i'm sorry, i do feel -- maybe i wanted to find them guilty of something. but when you follow the law, which is what we believe we did, we just couldn't convict. >> beth karas, page pate, thank you for your insight. still ahead in "newsroom" minutes away from opening bell on wall street.
good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for being with me. checking our top stories at 27 minutes past the hour. asiana airlines says it will sue a california tv station after a report used several phony and offensive names for the pilots aboard the flight that crashed in san francisco. asiana says its reputation was damaged. ktvu has apologized. >> tonight we want to take a moment and say we're sorry. earlier today during our noon newscast we made several mistakes when we received this information. first of all, we never read the names outed all phonetically sounding them out. then to our phone call to the ntsb when the person confirmed the spelling, they never gave us their position within the agency. we heard the person verified the information without questioning who they were and then we rushed
the name on to our noon newscast. >> the ntsb says a summer intern erroneously confirmed the names, the phony names of the flight crew. cirque du soleil will resume the performance anceperformanc. an investigation is under way. tuesday's performance will be dedicated to her memory. two pennsylvania teenagers are being hailed heroes this morning after officials say they may have save aed a 5-year-old girl's life. the teens spotted a little girl inside a car. they chased down that car on their bicycles and after the would-be kidnapper let the girl go, the boys took her to police and the girl is fine and dandy this morning. police are still looking for the suspect. the latest in the michael jackson wrongful death trial now. cnn obtained the video testimony of a doctor who toured with michael jackson in the '90s.
the jury saw it last week. in it he told an executive of the concert promoter aeg live that he was dependent. >> i think elvis died with like 14 different chemicals in his system and don't get all infatuatinfa administering meds. >> due next on the stand his mother katherine. they're suing aeg live for playing a part in michael jackson's death. minutes before this morning's opening bell stocks are poised to climb even higher after the dow and s&p 500 each closed friday at record highs. alison kosik at new york stock exchange eagerly awaiting the bell which just rang.
good morning, alison. >> good morning to you, carol. have you checked your retirement funds lately. you're probably feeling a little richer. s&p 500 which most of our mutual and retirement funds, up almost 18% just this year. that's actually quite more than most analysts expected to gain in all of this year. what is the main driver behind these recent gains? what else the fed stimulus and the promise behind it. the flow of easy money has been the main thing propping up the market this year. recently fed chief ben bernanke said the stimulus will keep on coming. motivating investors to keep on buying. they don't want to miss this speeding train called the stock market. new retail sale s are up. they came in weaker than expected and part of the reason for the increase was that people had to spend more because of higher gas prices, not necessarily because they were out spending money going on a big shopping spree. we just heard the opening bell
ring. the dow is up about 13 points. looks like the market is okay with retail sale number. kind of weak. but if spending is weakening, the market sees it as a good thing because it means more of that federal stimulus coming into the market. carol? >> alison kosik, thanks so much. the verdict is in yet george zimmerman remains in limbo. we'll tell you about the two-fold threat that now hangs over his head. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare,
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two days after george zimmerman's acquittal he remains free, but only in the most strict of definitions. zimmerman faces the threat of new charges filed at the federal level, as well as the potential lawsuit from trayvon martin's parents. and an even greater concern may be the physical danger from such a polarizing and racially charged case. cnn's david mattingly has more
for you. >> reporter: he's been in hiding for over a year. daring to venture out only disguised and wearing body arm aer. since killing trayvon martin, life for george zimmerman is filled with isolation and caution. >> a lot of people who think george killed trayvon for racial reasons, even though nothing supports that. if they feel that ang aer eno e they could react violently. >> reporter: tweets, e-mails and letters wishing him bodily harm or death. now that george zimmerman is free, it's almost certain he won't go back to the life he had before. pursuing a career in law enforcement. >> that is the absolute worst thing you could do. it might be your old passion. my advice is you need to find a new passion. and it needs to be helping people in a very different way. a way that is much more compassionate. not just involving law enforcement. >> reporter: for a view of life after acquitting, zimmerman may
need to look no further than casey anthony. the young mother found not guilty of murdering her 2-year-old daughter. she has since lived in hiding and financial ruin. >> you never know who the nuts are and where they are. there are still people that threaten me. >> reporter: it sounds like there are severe consequences being found guilty in a court of public opinion. it may not be hopeless for zimmerman. he continues to have strong support from his immediate family. part of his defense is being paid for by thousands of dollars donated by the public. but even here, there could be problems. >> he's got to be careful to avoid the appearance of creating more divisions and by accepting money or support openly from groups that may create more friction because of the, the tenor of this case. have to be very careful about
who he associates with afterwards, even if they're offering financial support. >> reporter: shortly after his dramatic acquittal, george zimmerman's first steps back into private life were hidden from cameras and public view. his destination, his plans of closely guarded secret. >> he has always feared for his safety. we have always feared for his safety and our safety as a family. clearly, you know, he's a free man in the eyes of the court, but going to be looking around his shoulder for the rest of his life. >> reporter: david mattingly, cnn, sanford, florida. up next in "newsroom" does nsa leaker edward snowden have documents that could bring the united states to its knees? new reports say he has the blue print to the national security agency. is that even possible? [ male announcer ] this summer,
nsa leaker edward snowden is said to have blueprint on how the national security agency is structured and run according to associated press. he claims the additional information is so sensitive that anyone who reads it will know exactly how the nsa opaerateratd how to evade surveillance. snowden, as you know, stuck in the airport in moscow. but his u.s. passport has been revoked so he can't travel. he has been in limbo for about a month now. does snowden really have this nsa blueprint? >> this is according to a man who would probably know, you think, carol. glenn greenwald has made these comments. the information that snowden has is enough to do more damage to
the united states in a single moment than anyone has been capable of doing before and he is talking about thousands of documents. as you mentioned, effectively a blueprint for the way the nsa was built and the way it does what it does and the sort of information that could, in theory, allow someone to invade or replicate that sort of surveillance. and he also says that snowden has so that information is not released publicly. >> why did he mention it at all? he is stuck in the moscow airport. is it just a coincidence he mentions that he has this blueprint now? >> well, i guess the journalist in question has been questioned on this himself and he's backing up essentially something that snowden himself has said publicly before. which is that he has a lot more extensive knowledge and information on operations around the world.
electronic and other forms of servileance and electronic gathering, as well. if he really wanted to damage the united states as his critics claim he is doing deliberately, then he believes he can do it much more effectively in a much bigger way than what we have seen to this point. carol? >> phil black reporting for us live this morning. thanks so much. coming up in "newsroom" a 6-year-old boy is buried in a giant sinkhole swallowed by 11 feet of sand while playing on the beach. but someone came to his rescue. we'll show you.
a fun family vacation turned nightmarish for one family. a 6-year-old is in critical condition this morning. authorities say the little boy was completely swallowed by a giant sinkhole. happened at a national park in northern indiana. miraculously, this little boy survived. cnn's pamela brown picks up the story. >> reporter: it's every parent's worst nightmare. >> 911. >> i am at the mount baldy beach and my friend's son got stuck in the sand dune and he's like under the sand and we can't get him out. >> reporter: authorities say 6-year-old nathan was suddenly swallowed by a sinkhole of the indiana sand dunes lining lake michigan. >> can anybody see him or is he completely covered by sand? >> yes. my husband and his dad are
trying to dig him out. >> reporter: dozens of first responders rushed to the 11-foot mound of sand burying the boy. with equipment in hand, they raced against the clock. >> tried to just stay focused and the first two hours was complete misery. >> reporter: more than three and a half hours ticked by and then, finally, signs of life. >> at that point, everybody was really frantically by hand trying to dig him out. once i had a hold of his head to support his head and i was talking to him, lick i would talk to my own son. >> i kind of felt for a pulse and your heart wants you to feel that and your heart wants you to hear that breath. >> reporter: unconscious, but still breathing, was pulled from his vertical position in the sand and rushed to the hospital. in the end, it may have been a single air pocket that saved his life. >> when we pulled him out, it really didn't look good. the only thing you can think of, that could be your kid. we weren't going to give up. >> that's so scary.
pamela brown now joins us live now. so, two questions. could this happen again? because that's a popular tourist spot. how is the little boy doing? >> well, to answer your first question, carol. the area where the little boy fell into the sinkhole, it was restricted. that's one aspect of this. a very popular area and a lot of kids running around the sand dunes there at mount baldy. officials are saying this is a coordened off area and a horrifying experience for his parents and for other parents with kids in that area. for your second question, i spoke to a hospital spokesperson and he is in critical condition but he has been responding to simple commands and also responding to mechanical ventilation. good signs there. there is going to be a press conference at 11:00 a.m. eastern time for an update on his condition. his doctor will be speaking
but still a miracle that he survived this, all because of that air pocket, carol. doctors believe that that is how he was able to get oxygen and survive the nearly four-hour ordeal. unbelievable. >> just hope he got enough oxygen, right? >> yeah. absolutely. >> pamela brown, thanks so much. some of the most inflammatory reaction to the zimmerman verdict is coming from the sports world. yeah, the nfl. we'll share on "bleacher report," next. [ female announcer ] this summer, plan a romantic getaway at a conrad,
athletes throughout the sports world took to twitter to express their feelings on the george zimmerman verdict, and some of those tweets, well, they were downright nasty. they were more than nasty, andy scholes. >> yeah. good morning, carol. you know, the first thing many people did when they heard the zimmerman verdict was get on twitter. and as we've seen plenty of times, emotional tweeting is never a very smart thing to do, especially if you're a public figure. now, while many athletes voiced their disappointment with the verdict, atlanta falcons wide receiver roddy white, he took it to another level. his first tweet read, "zimmerman got away with murder today. wow. what kind of world do we live in?" he followed that tweet with "all them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid." now, white later apologized for that tweet saying "i understand
my tweet last night was extreme. i never meant for the people to do that. i was shocked and upset about the verdict. i am sorry." no word yet from the nfl on whether or not wiet will be fined for these tweets. one golfer to keep your eye on this week at the british open is 19-year-old jordan spieth. the 19-year-old holed this shot to force a playoff from the bunker at the john deere classic. he'd go on to win the tournament for his first professional victory. he's the first teenager to win a pga tour event in 82 years. wow. well, tonight is the home run derby at citi field in new york. carol, i know you'll be cheering for -- >> prince fielder. >> defending champion prince fielder. he won it last year. but the favorite to win it this year. but the favorite to win it this year is baltimore first baseman chris davis. the orioles slugger had his league leading 37th home run yesterday. he's on pace to hit 62 home runs this season. that's incredible. we've seen some bad first pitches over the years, carol, but this one takes the cake pf
carlie rae jepsen at the rays game yesterday. >> oh, she threw it like a girl. >> i don't even know how to explain this. she just throws it straight to the ground. she threw out a first pitch in baltimore not too long ago and she threw a strike. but she didn't do it from the mound in baltimore. i think she got a little too confident going back. >> too confident? oh, it's embarrassing for all women. oh. she's such a great gal, though. great singer. love her. >> practice maybe. >> maybe. andy scholes, thank you so much. "newsroom" will continue after a quick break. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote.
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it's going to get steamy up there. >> this is where we have to be careful what we wish for, right? when we were talking about june being the rainiest month, many places on the east coast 10, 12 inches above normal and now we're into july and take a look at this. many places temperatures five to six degrees above normal. this is the average for the month. and this heat wave that's expected to last not just today or tomorrow but all the way to the weekend, a whole week long heat wave is definitely going to be bringing those numbers way up. take a look at the morning numbers. new york already 83. harrison 79. 80s already in d.c. this is our starting point. we've already seen humidity at 70% in addition to that. about 20 million of us looking at this heat wave from boston all the way down to philadelphia. this is where we're looking at these advisories. thanks to this dome of high pressure it's just going to park
itself here and sit here for the entire week. so we're going to be giving the temperatures a good ten degrees above normal. and then on top of that we're going to add all this moisture so that humidity around 50%, even at the peak sunshine hours. so in the afternoon, you combine those two. and these heat indices are going to feel like about 20 degrees above normal. 100 degrees. that's what it's going to feel like in new york. philadelphia 101. d.c. today feeling like 100 degrees. if you felt it yesterday, this is so hot and sticky. and of course the danger's really when you see this prolonged heat for several days. that's exactly what we're going to be dealing with. there you go. pittsburgh. the actual high. still lasting. it may look like a hint of a cooldown by about wednesday, but by thursday and friday that heat is going to soar right back in. the dome of high pressure's only going to build even further to the west. now, where is the heat? pretty much everywhere. talking about the ohio valley, the northeast, even down into the southeast. the only place we're seeing a little bit of a cooldown is around 20 degrees below normal around texas today. for that reason it's so important. i always talk about this.
people think you can just run into the store, leave someone in the car for a few minutes but here you go. 80 degrees outside. in ten minutes inside that vehicle, 99 degrees. and we're not dealing with 80 degrees today. we're talking about what feels like 101 already. so please, i caution everyone to not do this. >> do not leave any kid or any pet in the car. we will take your advice. or a dog either for that matter, right? thanks so much. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" the next hour of "cnn newsroom" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening now in the "newsroom" -- >> we want you to disperse. >> outrage, fury. >> hell no, we won't go. >> protesters take to the streets overnight. police firing beanbags to disperse angry protesters over the george zimmerman verdict. as calls for the feds to take up the case are heating up. >> there is reason to be concerned that race was a factor.
>> if someone believes that it's appropriate to sue george zimmerman, then we will seek and we will get immunity in a civil hearing. plus, another smoking bombshell. the "guardian" reporting the nsa leaker has a blueprint on how the nsa operates. ♪ just a small town girl also, he was considered the glue of "glee." ♪ she took the midnight train going anywhere ♪ cory monteith found dead at the age of 31. and -- >> my friend's son, he got stuck in a sand dune and he's like under the sand and they can't get him out. >> a desperate rescue to save a 6-year-old boy swallowed by a sinkhole while playing on a sand dune. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." good morning. thank you so much for being with
me. i'm carol costello. the george zimmerman verdict is in, but the case is far from over. from sanford, florida to the san francisco bay protesters rallied against his acquittal and the fatal shooting of unarmed teenager trayvon martin. most of the demonstrations were peaceful, but things did turn tense and ugly in los angeles. last night some protesters pelted police with rocks and batteries, and officers responded by firing bean bags into the crowd. but the biggest fight may now shift to a federal court, where zimmerman could face new charges. cnn's george halas in sanford with that part of the story. and radio's david webb will discuss the federal investigation under way. george, i want to begin with you. specifically, what are the feds considering? >> well, carol, good morning. so we're talking about the department of justice and the possibility of more legal action. keep in mind the naacp and its
president, ben jealous, they believe that race may have been a factor and they believe the department of justice should look into it. now, we're also hearing from trayvon martin's parents. keep in mind we heard sybrina fulton over twitter basically calling this her darkest hour. we heard from tracy martin over twitter saying that he will always love his baby tray. and we're also hearing from their attorney, benjamin crump, who expressed what this family is going through after the verdict. i want you to listen. >> they went through the grieving process. they cried, they prayed, they went to church sunday morning. and when sybrina fulton came home from church, she said, attorney crump, this verdict will not define trayvon. we will define trayvon. and i was so inspired by her. they've been so dignified and graceful throughout this, you know, just terrible situation that has been laid upon their doorstep. >> so when you talk about
self-defense, that statute here in the state of florida, there is a line, that word that we've all referred to, the stand your ground clause, it's within self-defense. it also provides people with immunity. so we did hear defense attorney mark o'mara say, hey, you know, if there are more lawsuits to come, they will seek and his quote, "we will get immunity." >> george howl reporting live from sanford, florida this morning. coming up, we're going to hear from the naacp, its washington bureau director hillary shelton will join us live at the bottom of the hour, as we told you. the naacp is pushing for federal civil rights charges to be filed against george zimmerman. also this morning, we're hearing from prosecutors. hln's vinnie politan, himself a former prosecutor, has just finished an interview with the entire team. vinnie joins us now from jacksonville. tell us. what did they say? >> carol, i sat down for more than an hour. and it was pretty fascinating to
hear from these prosecutors. going behind the scenes, trying to get into their minds. the trial strategy, why they made decisions, and how they defended themselves. now, one thing that i wanted to find out, and this is a self-defense case, and 99 times out of 100 in a self-defense case the defendant takes the stand. that didn't happen in this case because prosecutors played george zimmerman's statements for the jury. so he never had to testify, never be cross-examined. and that was one of the questions i asked them about. take a listen. >> you know, we're stuck with the evidence we have. we would -- >> are you being nice right now? >> well, no. it's the truth. we don't get to pick our winc . witnesses. we've got to deal with what we have. >> there was a wealth of hard cold physical evidence, dna and everything else, that showed that george zimmerman lied in his statements to the police. >> there was no sort of narrative that this jury could follow, that america could follow. >> well, the problem you've got
in a trial is you can't say jury, don't speculate and then ask them to speculate. and so we're left with the defendant's story. and what we attempted to do as best we could is to prove that his story was false. therefore, why would he be lying about something? something minor about trying to get an address. i thought that was blatantly obviously a lie. and when i was talking to the jury, when i was arguing to the jury, i saw them nodding their heads. >> so what was the deciding factor, and was it a group decision? >> yes. and the problem you have is that there was enough evidence, even though i would argue it was insignificant or very little, that there was self-defense. had john good. you had other people. so they were going to be able to get an instruction as to self-defense. and once we knew that was coming on, we felt we needed to put his statement on and just disprove it. >> and you had the injuries. and the injuries indicate there was some sort of a struggle. our position all along, we never said that trayvon didn't do something to george zimmerman. what we said is you can't take a concealed weapon and encourage
or incite a fistfight, which is what he did by stalking a teenager who didn't know who he was, and then whip your gun out and shoot. and that's what he said. "i just got my gun out and shot him." never explaining the details of how he was able to pull his gun if he was being beaten as brutally as he claimed. and so we had to put all of that in. and then we clearly refuted it with the physical evidence. no dna on trayvon martin's hands, who supposedly were covering his bloody nose. you know, so many other things. and those lies were put in front of the jury one after the other after the other. >> and you know what, carol? one of the other things, bernie de la rionda still thought george zimmerman might take the stand just because george zimmerman had always spoken before and, you know, somehow he would be considered a coward if he didn't take the stand. but ultimately, he didn't. and that may very well have made the difference in this case. >> just unbelievable. what was your most surprising
moment from the interview? >> well, on "after dark" every night i go around with my experts and i ask them give me one word to describe something. and it's usually something that happened in court that day. well, today i had the prosecutors there and i asked them give me one word to describe george zimmerman. take a listen. >> one word to describe george zimmerman. >> murderer. >> george zimmerman. >> lucky. >> wow. >> murderer. he was found not guilty. but angela corey -- she got emotional at that moment. she believes that george zimmerman, despite what the jury said, is a murderer. >> fascinating stuff. thank you so much, hln's vinnie
politan. thanks for joining us. and tune in tonight to see vinnie's full interview from the prosecution team. coming up in the "newsroom" you're going to hear from george zimmerman's lawyer mark o'mara. that's at the bottom of the hour right here on the "cnn newsroom." but right now we want to focus on what we can learn from this trial. many in the country, especially african-americans, are struggling to come to terms with the verdict. no punishment for a man who shoots and kills an unarmed african-american teenager. reverend jamal bryan is pastor of the empowerment temple church in baltimore. he led a rally in sanford, florida back in march of last year. also joining us is david webb. he's the co-founder of the new york city tea party and host of the david webb show on sirius xm radio. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. thank you. >> good morning. so let's start with the prosecution team and how they describe george zimmerman. and i'm going to pose that question to you, david webb. the prosecution team called george zimmerman a murderer still and lucky. do you agree? >> that's what i expect from any
prosecutor to do after they've lost a case. they believed in their case. so they're going to continue that. to not do that would say we had a weak case, which they did from the beginning. and frankly, they overcharged with second degree murder, which lessened their chances of even getting a conviction. so i expect that to be their comments and the line, if you will. >> on the other hand, reverend bryan, many african-americans probably think those adjectives are quite appropriate. >> that would be an accurate description. the reality is is that an innocent teenager who was unarmed is killed and george zimmerman is walking around. so that would in any definition would make him a murderer. >> so the department of justice is now considering whether to file federal civil rights charges against george zimmerman. robert zimmerman, george zimmerman's brother, told "new day" this morning that he thinks that would just agitate things more, that would increase tensions and that we should just
let it go because after all, a jury has deemed george zimmerman not guilty. david, is robert zimmerman right? >> they're going to try and of course they're going to follow through with an attempt at a civil rights prosecution. but in doing so they'll have to meet the burden that the evidence in the criminal trial puts forth, which is how do you get a civil rights -- a civil judgment when you already have an acquittal on not just second degree murder but on the lesser charges and the judge's instructions. it's going to be very difficult. and we need to get past not the death of a young man, which is a tragedy without a doubt, but we need to get beyond just the need to find some form of predetermined justice and look at what we need to do, have a real conversation about issues that lead up to these kinds of situations in our country and the aftermath where a community is broken, the american community is what i'm talking
about, and you have calls for violence on one side and the calls for rational discourse go unheard or barely heard. >> reverend bryant, why can't we just have a conversation and take, you know, some of the lessons that came out of this trial and talk about them and learn from them? >> yeah. well, number one, i think that we have grounds for a civil suit considering that trayvon had the civil right to go home. we cannot forget that he was two blocks away from home. he was not at the wrong place at the wrong time. he was not with the wrong crowd. he was headed home. secondarily, mr. zimmerman has the means in order to give compensation. he has collected -- he's amassed somewhere in the orbit of $500,000, averaging $30,000 a week since he's opened up his online giving. and i think that the family needs to be compensated for their grief and they really cannot in fact pay for that life. what african-americans are really championing is that what
that verdict says is that you are reducing the value of black children, that there's nowhere in the world a young man killed down in cold blood, that the murderer is walking away, and to add insult to injury you give him back his gun. if we look on the news and see an african-american go to jail for dog fighting, an african-american go to jail for shooting himself, but when one of our children are killed the message that goes out to our children is that your value doesn't mean anything. and so what we want to do through that civil suit, and let me add that the family requested that over a year ago, so this is not reactionary. and to mr. webb's counterpoint, we are not struggling between being violent and being rational. it's 48 hours later, and still there is no uprising. for one year we've been challenging the system, been demonstrating with young people across the country in hoods, and there's not been one arrest, not one business has had to close,
no incident, no accident, and no crime. this is civil rights 2.0, and we're doing so logically, albeit enraged about how it is that the process is moving forward. >> i saw david shaking his head. go ahead, david. >> you know, this is the line that was being pushed through at the naacp meeting down in florida this weekend. and as people fed back to me from that meeting, we're not talking about whether someone's civil rights were violated here or not in a rational course. because what the reverend's talking about is we need a determined outcome to fit the narrative. there was a local issue, local law enforcement issue, which has now played out in the courts. we have a young man, and two people that frankly should never have crossed paths, and they met and a tragedy occurred. we don't know what happened in that time. so you can't come up with -- >> david -- >> let me finish. >> yes. >> you can't come up with a predetermined outcome that says he had this right, he had this right. both parties had rights.
both parties had culpability, and a tragedy occurred. but rather than dealing with this in the context of the law, the justice system, the jurors that have made a decision on the evidence presented, we now have an attempt to take this beyond that. and what we need is a talk about what the real problems are in this country, what the real problems and solutions are -- >> david, you say these two people should have never met -- >> this is not -- >> so what lesson should we be taught? what should we take from that? what should we center on? if it's not race, what is it? >> carol, for one thing this was not a case of race. >> was it because george zimmerman had a gun? what is it? >> carol -- >> no, no. let me finish. it was because he profiled a figure. even in his 911 call initially not sure of it. so it's not profiling of black man. >> so if f. i'm wearing a hoodie he's going to profile me in neighborhood? that's what it's about? >> carol, the contradiction of
david's remarks is that he's saying it's a law enforcement issue. and i want to remind david and those who sympathize with mr. zimmerman that mr. zimmerman is not a part of law enforcement. he was operating with law while being out of order. the 911 dispatcher said stay in the car. had he in fact followed -- >> no, the 911 dispatcher said we don't need to you do that, and that is not a lawful order. >> i don't want to go back over the case. i really want to center on what lessons should be learned from this trial and what happened and what we should center on. and i'm asking david -- >> let me try to answer your question. then let me try to answer your question. we have real issues of racism in this country that need to be addressed. they are minimized when you have a constant ongoing 40-plus-year line. we've evolved as a country. but that evolution is never taken into account when it comes to what certain quarters want to push, which is it's always all about, or the dominant issue is
race. we need to talk about what children are doing, what education is doing, what needs to be done in the black community to give them better options. they don't deserve to be profiled. they don't deserve to be shot. that's what they want to sell you. but what we need to talk about is how we fix a community and what has been their return on investment after 40 years of undying loyalty to both organizations and people who've led and provided really no solutions. >> okay. i've got to wrap this up. but i will say that trayvon martin was in a mixed community that was probably mostly white. he was wearing a sweatshirt and pants -- >> there's 48% white, 29% black, and a mixture of hispanic and otherwise. that is the makeup. >> carol. >> okay. i've got to go. so reverend bryant, please, please make it short. go ahead. >> yes. i think the walk-away is we've got to reevaluate the criminal justice system, that we continue continuously allow penitentiaries to become new plantations when you're dealing
with black rogues and white justice. or the new crow laws. the second thing very quickly is that zimmerman is telling us authority, that we've got to be able to look over our own communities. when the black panther party tried to supervise their own community, it was looked at as a threat against democracy. so maybe we need to start again patrolling our own communities and revisiting how it is that there is a disconnect when african-americans are 12% of the population but 59% of the prison population, something is out of order. >> i've got to end it here. reverend jamal bryant and david webb, thank you for the interesting conversation. i could talk all day to you two. thank youvich. most important videoconference of the day. hi! hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast are something to smile about. book a great getaway now and feel the hamptonality ♪ hooking up the country whelping business run ♪ ♪ build! we're investing big to keep our country in the lead.
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dead in a vancouver hotel room. >> cause of death was not apparent on initial examination. and further examination and tests will take place to determine cause of death. >> reporter: as canadian authorities investigate what killed him, the shocking news of his death hit friends and colleagues hard. ♪ don't include me his on again/off again girlfriend and "glee" co-star lea michele is grieving partly. in a statement her rep asked that "everyone kindly respect lea's privacy during this devastating time." unlike his clean-cut alter ego finn hudson monteith had a troubled youth. he described himself as an out of control drug and alcohol abusing teen who was skipping school to drink and smoke pot by the age of 13. >> for me it wasn't so much about, you know, the substances per se. it was more about -- about not fitting in. just a lack of not really having a self-image at the time. which is -- that's like typical teenager stuff p.
>> reporter: despite his success in "glee" monteith continued to battle his substance abuse demons. earlier this year he checked himself into rehab. his friend, "glee" director adam shankman, spoke to monteith hours before he was found dead. >> i had several interactions with him yesterday where he said to me that he was feeling amazing and even said "i'm feeling fantastic" again. >> nischelle turner is following the story from new york. how are monteith's co-stars, including his girlfriend lea michele reacting to this? >> well, you know, carol, you just heard there in the piece us talking about her asking for privacy. and you can imagine she's taking this very hard. she has been supporting him all along the way in his battle with substance abuse. when he entered rehab back in april, she was right there by his side. she put out a statement at that time saying that she loved him and that she would support him. so you have to imagine that she's taking this very hard. other of his co-stars did take
to social media this weekend, saying they just couldn't believe this news, that he was a really great guy and like a brother to a lot of the other people on the show. you know, on the show, carol, he's kind of the moral compass. you know, finn is the do-gooder. he's the good guy. but they say even though he was battling substance abuse off the set he was still kind of that moral compass to a lot of his co-stars and a lot of them went to him to talk and that he really always lent an ear to anyone who asked, anyone who needed it. >> so sad. nischelle turner, thanks so much. still ahead in the "cnn newsroom," some people took to the streets over the zimmerman verdict. some nfl stars like new york giant victor cruz took to twitter. now they're feeling the heat after vocalizing their outrage over the zimmerman verdict.
nsa leaker edward snowden wants asylum in russia. he made the declaration on friday in his first appearance since landing in moscow three weeks ago. in the meantime, the reporter who broke the snowden story has also spoken again. glenn greenwald told a newspaper in argentina that snowden still has information that would be the worst nightmare for the united states if it is released. he claims that snowden has the blueprint for how the nsa works
and sets up its surveillance programs. swarthmore college is being investigated by the u.s. department of education for the alleged mishandling of sexual assault cases. students complain the pennsylvania liberal arts school doesn't properly prosecute assault cases and underreports them. carnival cruise lines taking steps to improve its image and boost its safety. it has appointed four top experts including two admirals to the company's new safety and reliability review board. you probably remember a series of mishaps aboard several carnival cruise ships earlier this year. the most publicized, an engine room fire that left the carnival "triumph" adrift in the gulf of mexico with more than 4,200 people on board. today marked the start of the boy scout jamboree 2013. this year's event features a heavy focus on exercise. it's part of the organization's effort to combat obesity. and for the first time the thousands of scouts and their leaders were required to meet body mass index standards to
participate. on the subject of angry, vile tweets and lots of them, let's talk nfl players and their unfortunate use of the twitterverse. more than one nfl player expressed his displeasure at the zimmerman verdict inappropriately. example, roddy white of the atlanta falcons. this was his tweet. "all them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid." and this one from the new york giant victor cruz -- "zimmerman doesn't last a year until the hood catches up to him." both apologized. but some are clamoring for the nfl to punish these players for what they tweeted. joe carter is here to talk about that. so can the nfl take action? >> sure. sure. i think it's up to the discretion of roger goodell, the commissioner of the nfl, and also to the individual teams, the atlanta falcons and new york giants. but saturday night, i mean, if you follow anybody on twitter, there was a lot of opinions flying. except a lot of those opinions were of citizens, not people that are represented by the most popular sport in our country.
so could these players be punished? could they be fined? absolutely. the twitter policy for the nfl is very simple. you don't tweet during games. other than that they can tweet. but they have contracts just like you and i have contracts that have conduct codes in them. if you break the conduct code, you can put yourself up for being reprimanded. so do i expect something to come down? possibly. it's monday 10:30 eastern time. perhaps. i mean, obviously, the commissioner's got a little bit of an image problem in the nfl. almost 40 arrests thus far into the season. one of his players, or ex-player charged with the murder of odin lloyd. so there are definitely some issues to go through. but the commissioner has always said from day one when he took this job that he is here to protect the shield, the shield of the nfl. so i think through all of this people are watching, a lot of kids. obviously, roddy white has over 100,000 twitter followers. victor cruz has over 300,000 twitter followers. these guys have voices. they have an audience, a built-in audience -- >> and it wasn't just they were voicing their displeasure. these tweets were threatening. >> they are. and it's really a matter of think before you hit send.
no matter your opinion, whether you sit on one side or the other, it's about showing a little bit of dissent, a little bit of discretion, and think about things before you emotionally charge a tweet out there because everyone's going to read it. >> it wasn't just nfl players either, right? >> yeah. >> there were other tweets out there. >> there was a conversation that was being started online very quickly after the verdicts related to what happened with michael vick, people saying, you know, that because he did what he did with dogs and was involved in a dog fighting ring, spent two years in prison, 19 months almost, and then you've got someone like plaxico burress. he shot himself in the leg, spent two years in jail. there was other people out there like marcus vick, who's michael vick's younger brother, drawing comparisons saying why is that fair? in a much more volatile way. drawing comparisons saying how is that fair, that this guy can go to -- get let go scot-free -- >> all of that, that's great conversation. and we should have that conversation. the other tweets, though, were threatening. >> threatening. yeah. and for that i wouldn't be surprised if something happens.
both were very quick to apologize. so clearly somebody got to them. victor cruz deleted his altogether. quickly after sending that out. but the next day, sunday, yesterday roddy white was very expressing his very much regret. he was very apologetic. and i'm sure at least somebody within the organization or his agent or manager or whoever got to him and said -- >> very hard words to take back, though. joe, thanks so much. the naacp wants the feds to file a civil rights suit against george zimmerman. but do they have enough evidence to support their claims? i'll talk to the naacp next. all business purchases.
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criminal civil rights charges against zimmerman. an online petition now has 450,000 signatures. the department of justice is investigating whether trayvon martin was targeted because of his race. but if it does decide to file those kinds of charges, it won't be an easy case to win. hillary shelton is the washington bureau director for the naacp. he joins me now from orlando, where the naacp is holding its annual convention. good morning. >> good morning. it's great to be with you. >> thanks for taking the time to talk with us. george zimmerman's brother robert this morning, he said the naacp's efforts are agitating an already contentious atmosphere. let's listen. >> i would encourage mr. jealous, who i describe as a self-professed civil rights leader. i don't think he does anything for civil rights by perpetuating a narrative that has now been proven false. and calling for an arrest and then a conviction, and it didn't happen, so now there's more agitation by the same players that were insisting that george
was a murderer and a racist to begin with. i would encourage them to cool their jets, give, you know, everyone some time to kind of process what's going on. agitation doesn't help us. it doesn't do anybody any good right now. >> protests across the country have for the most part been peaceful. but is mr. zimmerman right? will your efforts just agitate things further? >> not at all. the naacp wants to see justice in this case. mr. jealous is absolutely correct. when we look at what came out of this situation, we have someone that actually targeted someone because they met a profile in their mind. wearing the hoodie. you continue to talk about how this person was part of they. they think they can get away with this all the time, they think they can do these kind of things in our community, they. he didn't know mr. martin. but indeed, he decided that he met the profile. and yes, race is a component of the profile that he's talking about. >> but i think that many people say the problem with that is george zimmerman is not a police
officer, he's a citizen. he has the right to walk up to anyone he wants and say what are you doing here? >> well, here you have a case where he followed him. basically, he stalked him. if you listen to the recordings, talking to the 911 dispatcher, the dispatcher told him to stand down, to stay away from him. they'd send a professional police officer out to address it. but he decided that he needed to stalk this guy, to stop him, to assault him, to begin asking him questions about why he was there, what he was doing. and of course mr. zimmerman was armed and dangerous as he approached him. that raise az ls a lot of conce. >> but all of these things were raised at trial and a jury of six women said that george zimmerman was not guilty. so what do you think about that jury? >> sure. the biggest problem is the laws here in the state of florida. florida has a very narrowly crafted and very dangerous and reckless self-defense law. the only issue there was whether or not mr. zimmerman felt
threatened by mr. martin. but the threat was actually created by an exacerbated situation. they could not even address the issue of the concerns of him being profiled from the beginning. if you listen to the discussion between mr. zimmerman and the 911 operator, he describes what was going on in a very disturbing way. here they are. they keep doing these things. and he says i see somebody suspicious. they tell him to stand back, but he goes and confronts him anyway. here you have a 17-year-old kid walking back from the 7-eleven with candy and tea trying to get back to his father's fiancee's house but being confronted by someone that he thought was a stalker and out to do him harm. >> and i know the naacp is talking to the justice department. how many signatures do you have on your online petition now? >> we have over 450,000, and it continues to grow. people are marching all over the country. i want to make one thing very
clear. the naacp believes that it would be really disingenuous and quite frankly it would be extremely problematic for any of these demonstrations to become violent. you don't do a violent demonstration to protest violence. and in this case we're protesting the deadly violence against an african-american 17-year-old youth. >> in the spirit of dr. king. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it, hillary shelton. >> it's a pleasure to be with you. when we come back, we're going to talk to a former department of justice lawyer to see, you know, the criminal civil rights, criminal charges are possible in the zimmerman case. and if the d.o.j. can win. we'll talk about that next. rea? happy birthday! it's a painting easel! the tide's coming in! this is my favorite one. it's upside down.
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criminal civil rights charges against george zimmerman. what's the likelihood of that happening? former assistant attorney in the civil rights division. he joins us from ann arbor, michigan. welcome, sir. >> thanks very much. >> does there appear to be enough evidence to bring civil rights charges against george zimmerman? >> well, you know, it's not something that we who are outside of the investigation can really tell right now, but i'd say it's not looking like a very easy to prove kind of a case.
this is an investigation that the justice department has been undertaking for a while. i'm sure they're going to continue to look at the evidence they have. they're going to review carefully what -- >> well, why isn't this an easy case? why isn't this an easy case? >> well, the basic reason why it's a difficult case is to prove a federal hate crime the government has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that george zimmerman acted because of trayvon martin's race. and this is not a case where you have a lot of people standing around witnessing what george zimmerman said at the time. this is not a case where you have lots of statements of someone going out to look for someone because of a particular race. this is something that happened between two people, one of of whom doesn't have to testify and one of whom is dead. so it's going to be very difficult, i would think, based on the evidence i've seen to prove that george zimmerman
acted based on trayvon martin's race beyond a reasonable doubt. >> and when you profile someone after the hate crime statute, i guess, it has to be in a public space. but this was in a gated community. might that make it difficult too? >> no. that actually wouldn't make it difficult. so that used to be the case. it used to be the case that had to be in a public space. under the shepherd byrd hate crimes law that president obama signed in 2009, all that's needed to prove a federal hate crime is bias-motivated violence. the difficulty is going to be proving the bias motivation that george zimmerman acted because of trayvon martin's race. >> samuel bagenstos, thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> you're welcome. asiana airlines is taking action. it's suing a television station that reported the pilots of flight 214 as having racist
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now to a bizarre twist in that deadly crash of an asiana airlines flight last week in san francisco. airline officials say they will sue a san francisco television station after it aired phony and racially offensive phrases and said they were the names of the pilots of the doomed flight. the names were mistakenly confirmed by an ntsb intern. ktvu has apologized. >> tonight we want to take a moment and say that we are sorry. earlier today during our noon
newscast we misidentified the pilots in the asiana airlines crash. we made several mistakes when we received this information. first of all, we never read the names out loud. fontically sounding them out. then during our phone call to the ntsb where the person confirmed the spellings of the names, we never asked that person to give us their position within the agency. we heard this person verify the information without questioning who they were. and then we rushed the names onto our noon newscast. >> joining me now is defense attorney page paine and in new york former prosecutor beth karas. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> hello. >> this is such a bizarre story. i can't even believe that this actually happened. but the television station. you heard, they went on the air immediately and apologized. will that help them, beth? >> yes. indeed it will. in fact, the law does take a look at and take into account if someone apologizes, acknowledges, retracts a statement, a defamatory
statement. what this does is not let a media organization off the hook, but it does limit the kind of damages that a plaintiff, the airline, the pilots could get. and let's face it, their reputation right now is suffering by virtue of the crash. i don't know how they could even quantify damages related to these statements. >> i was just asking paige, i mean, it was a terrible thing that happened. i can't believe the ntsb would let an intern answer reporters' questions. that's just insane. no offense to any interns out there. but you're inexperienced. you shouldn't be put in that position. plus, you know, you have to wonder what was in the intern's head because sure liu the intern knew too. >> ask somebody else. >> what i'm going to ask you is what real harm did this do to the airline? >> well, that's a critical question. this type of lawsuit is called a defamation lawsuit. and you have to prove two things. one, they said something false. i think that's clear here. and two, that there was harm to the individuals they were talking about. so i think that's going to be the real challenge here. and it's also a different standard when we're talking
about suing a tv station versus suing the ntsb. you cannot simply sue the government for something like a defamation claim. you have to go through a special statute. and that's a lot more difficult. >> well, beth, the names that were confirmed by the ntsb, i mean, sum ting won. it seems like it would be obvious to even that intern that he was confirming erroneous information. >> oh, absolutely. in fact i had seen it when it was circulating on youtube, and i remember thinking how could anyone write this, preparing the graphic, read it on air? it went through several individuals, you would think, from the intern to whoever prepared the graphic to the anchor who read it maybe or producer. it's hard to believe someone didn't know this was a joke and a rather offensive one. >> and you know, asiana, as beth said, page, has other problems to deal with this. why even bother with this? >> i think it's more an issue of reputation. if you want to defend your reputation, you have to be
aggressive about it sometimes. so sending a message that if you say something about us, you say something about our pilots, you'd better be right or we're going to take action. >> page pate, beth karas, thanks so much. we appreciate it as always. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. coming up, sticky humidity and high temperatures hit the northeast. people are sweating it out there. we'll tell you about the heat wave next.
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55 minutes past the hour. time for a quick check of our top stories. tens of millions of americans are bracing for a heat wave this morning as the hottest temperatures of the summer bear down on the northeast. new york city, washington, and philadelphia could see temperatures ten degrees hotter than normal. high humidity could make it feel much, much worse. the first heat advisories now
extend from pennsylvania to massachusetts. two teenage boys heroically chased down a van to rescue a kidnapped 5-year-old girl in pennsylvania. sounds unreal, but it actually happened. teenager tamar boggs chased the suspect's car for 15 minutes. >> he started at the end of the hill, and she ran to me and said that she needed her mom. >> she did. the suspect noticed he was being followed and he let jocelyn rojas out of the van. boggs returned the little girl back to her mother. police are still looking for the suspect. emily krause and her boyfriend were running late to a dave math yooud show when they spotted a guy with a busted bike on the side of the road and before they knew it the couple was ferrying the pop star himself and his bum bike to his own concert. >> we didn't know how to make conversation with him, in fact. and so we were talking about his tour and stuff and where he had come from. and they had just been in cincinnati. he was just a very humble guy. >> i woke up this morning and i said, okay, yeah, that really happened yesterday.
it was -- it's just -- it was surreal. we couldn't believe it. >> i can't believe he was riding a bike to his concert. matthews was so grateful he invited the couple to dinner and then backstage. he also set them up with front row seats and gave them a shout out during the show. blockbuster author j.k. rowling pulls off another act of wizardry. the "harry potter" author has revealed that she penned a new mystery book. "the cuckoo's calling" was hailed as a brilliant debut novel. rowling wrote it under a pseudonym, robert galbraith. >> i was surprised. i was caught off guard. i didn't know that j.k. rowling was up to anything else at all. >> i'm sure the printing presses were kind of going full force at this point. but we'll order, you know, a lot is all i can really say. >> until this weekend her secret book sold only about 1,500 copies, but now sales are skyrocketing, going up more than 500,000% on amazon.com, making
the book the number one-selling book. and royal baby watchers are doing just that. watching and waiting. the duchess of cambridge is reportedly past her due date. hyping up the media frenzy around st. mary's hospital. well, the media may be on their toes awaiting the new arrival. kate can have her feet up. she's staying at her parents' countryside home in bucklebury. of course after the baby's born. and we end this hour with this -- they're back. it's been seven months since twinkies graced store shelves, but all that changes today, it's not just the twinkies, though. hostess twinkies manufacturer is putting all of its original sweet products back in the stores. that includes those ninkz with the chocolate. you know those things. last november the company filed for bankruptcy, but its products are back to a new company. thanks for joining me today. "cnn newsroom" continues after a break.