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doing this. it's hard for me on monday. i said a pro, i'd never say old, i've felt your jab. >> tomorrow on the next show? >> nischelle turner. >> talking to j.t., justin timberlake. >> now the one and other carol costello, he's a fan of hers like everyone else with a pulse. >> thanks so much, have a great day, guys. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the newsroom, saturday at the mall and then this. al qaeda linked militants open fire, killing innocent shoppers. >> we shoot up and we started to turn and we heard machine guns and then we started to run and it was a second explosion which knocked us on the grouped.
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>> worst yet americans are believed to be part of the terrorist killing machine. we'll take you live to nairobi and to minneapolis. also, seven days and counting until a threatened government shutdown if obama care is not defunded. here it is, thousands of pages of law that few people seem to get, this hour we'll try to make some sense out of what obama care means for you and their family. plus -- >> the whole country, david, knows the problem is there weren't enough good guys with beg guns. >> the gun control debate certainly has not stopped even as the president of the united states remembers those lost at the navy yard. and this. >> i gotta go. bye. >> the shortest acceptance speech ever and maybe the best. just ahead, who won, who didn't and who should have at the prime time emmy awards. you're live in the "cnn
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newsroom." good morning, i'm carol costello. we are closing in on the attackers, that is what kenyan police say. right now thick, black smoke is rising from the small, the hostage takers inside have been burning mattresses but those al shabab trips terrorist no, sir control the mall although two more were killed today and the terrorists may include three from the united states. [ gunfire ] 62 people in all have died since the attack began on saturday. 175 people, including five americans, were hurt when a dozen or so armed gunmen stormed the mall targeting non-muslims. one north carolina woman was able to get out alive. >> while we were back this they
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methodically ended up going store to store talking to people, asking questions, shooting, screams, and then it would stop for a while and they would go to another store. >> zain verjee is live in nairobi, kenya, where that drama goes on. good morning, zain. >> reporter: good morning, carol. the government is saying that they are in control of westgate mall and that they have evacuated most of the hostages. now, westgate mall is about four stories high, and to be in control of it is a vast amount of space. we continue to see smoke rising carol but it's not exactly clear what is the source. there's a lot of speculation about it but we do know there is an operation that is still ongoing. as far as the hostages go, carol, normally they would come here because this is where the emergency triage area is. i spoke to the people in charge here and they said no hostages have come except for one woman that was released, and she seemed to be okay.
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they said she was walking and then japanese friend or counterpart took her away and she just left. so that's the latest from the situation here. there are still many questions. the government is saying that they have it, they're in control, but there's a concern that there may have been gunman that could have escaped. the government is saying that's not the case but we'll wait and see what happens. >> there's so much confusion. this is of course a breaking situation. in all initially it was believed there were 10 to 15 attackers. do we know how many attackers were inside the mall? >> we don't know. they confirmed 10 to 15 attackers. the government officials are saying they were all men, previously there was some eyewitness accounts of white women being seen inside, but we really don't have much visibility inside the mall right now. it's totally off bounds physically and getting any information is really hard and the information that we do get could be operationally compromising, so what i do know
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from the people that i have talked to here, there are dozens of bodies that are still strewn in various places around the mall so they've been waiting all day to go and pick them up is what they've told me, when the separation started they were told to wait. >> zain verjee reporting live from nairobi, kenya, thanks so much. >> the fbi is looking into claims americans are among the attackers in nairobi. it's not surprising since al shaaban has been recruiting young men in the minneapolis area to go to africa to fight. chris lawrence is following that side of the story. what can you tell us, chris? >> well, carol, right now federal agents here and u.s. officials overseas are rubbing down leads trying to determine if any of those attackers are american. that is what a group claiming to be al shabab claimed on its twitter account posting that one of the attackers was from kansas city, two more from right here
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in minneapolis. this is home to the largest somali-american community. families have been fighting off recruitments from al shabab for years. sometimes they have not been successful. >> chris, i don't believe your story is -- we didn't have it. you said their efforts have not been successful. what do you mean by that? >> reporter: basically what that means is al shabab has reached out into the community, carol. we've been speaking with people last night who said they have heard accounts of that, and there have been actual convictions. earlier this year six men were convicted of funneling about 20 people overseas, young men from this area, two women were also convicted of sending thousands of dollars to al shabab. they have reached into the community and tried to recruit these young men, in fact just last month they released a
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recruiting video showing one of the young men from minneapolis in which he compares somalia to a jihadist disney land, urging other muslims to come to somalia to continue the fight. senior state department official says there are those within the obama administration that have been raising the alarms over this potential recruitment, but an fbi source says some of that recruiting has fallen off over the past few years. he said fbi has been working with the somalia-american community here to make sure those who go overseas do not bring that training back here and try to commit terrorist acts here into the united states. >> chris lawrence reporting from minneapolis this morning, thank you. on capitol hill the clock is ticking. congress has seven days to pass a spending bill to avoid a government shutdown. friday house republicans passed a short term spending plan that would defund obama care. the battle now moves to the democratically controlled
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senate, many democrats say defunding obama care doesn't stand a chance in the senate because of course it's democratically controlled but republican senate ted cruz threatens a filibuster if senate democrats try to strip the house bill of language that would cut obama care funding. >> senate republicans should stand united to stop harry reid from changing the house bill and in particular from inserting the funding of obama care, we can deny cloture and filibuster and say we will not allow to you add the funding back for obama care. >> lawmakers must pass a spending bill by september 30th to avoid a government shutdown. holiday hiring will slow down at target. not as many workers are needed and those with a job could be very busy this year. alison kosik is in new york this morning to tell us more. good morning, alison. >> good morning, carol. yes, holiday season not even in full swing. target saying it's going to scale back how many it hires for
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the holiday season, a troubling sign. target saying it plans to hire about 70,000 temporary workers, that's down from 88,000 it hired a year ago. you look at what was said last week, shopper track saying it expects holiday sales to climb less than expected this year because consumers are still very cautious. so as you said it could mean some good news to those who already work at target who want more hours because target is also saying it plans to offer more holiday hours to those full time staffers. carol? >> alison kosik, thanks so much, reporting live from new york this morning. and be sure to join know me tomorrow with target's ceo greg steinhuffel at 9:00 a.m. eastern, sometime within that hour. glitz, glamour and upsets, the emmy was chock full of big surprises. >> holy crap, man, i did not see this coming. >> "breaking bad" creator
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shocked over the big win. michael douglas and claire dane celebrating getting the big gold statuette. >> the fact is this all came about right after my whole cancer spell, so one day i'm think being mortality and the next day steven comes and says we got this great project, matt's going to play your partner and where do i sign up? >> here we are. >> this is preposterous. it's wonderful and i'm very, very grateful. it's a little -- it's hard to accept, you know. but i'm going to try to. >> reporter: it's hard to accept? >> i get shy, i get shy but no, i don't mean to reject it in any way, i'm so touched by it and so grateful for it but going back to work tomorrow and this will be a lovely thing to kind of pass around the crew and people can take photos with it and stuff, but the point is the work itself.
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>> entertainment correspondent nischelle turner live in los angeles, what a wild night and my new favorite is merritt weaver. she was awesome. >> "i gotta go." that's what we should go to every time we just have no idea what to say, exit stage left. "i gotta go." but that was definitely a moment last night. and by all accounts carol it has been a good year for television. last night's awards really showed that because no show cleaned up and swept the emmys. the honors were spread around which leaves critics to believe there was a lot of good to go around. >> twerk it! >> reporter: a playful combination of front row banter. >> i'm not twerking, that would be degrading. >> we would be degrateful. >> reporter: helped neil patrick harris kick off the 65th prime time emmy awards. a night of song -- ♪ the emmy awards are three hours long ♪ >> reporter: dance and celebration.
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♪ left some emmy winners like jeff daniels -- >> i usually don't win anything. >> reporter: and "nurse jackie's" merritt weaver netably surprised. >> i gotta go. bye. >> reporter: while tony hail and julia louis-dreyfus had fun in character. >> i'd like to thank our -- my family. >> reporter: jim parsons were visibly moved. >> it's so silly to be emotional, isn't it? >> reporter: tv icon bob newhart first win for guest starring on "the big ban theory" brought the nokia theater's 6,000 guests to their feet. the show singled out five heartfelt memorials including "sopranos" star james gandolfini. >> it's jim, the man, the very dear man that i will miss most of all. >> reporter: corey monteith, his controversy drawing before the show due to his smaller body of work. >> his death is a reminder of
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the rapacious senseless destruction that is brought on by addiction. >> reporter: and gary david goldberg, who produced both "family ties" and "spin at this." >> i wish it wasn't necessary. i wish gary was still with us. but -- sorry. >> reporter: "modern family" won its fourth straight in the year's best comedy series and "breaking bad" won its first for top drama. michael douglas' staring role as liberace may have earned him emmy gold over co-star matt damon. >> this is a two-hander. you're only as good -- >> reporter: in the end the hbo biopic was second to none. ♪ luck be a lady tonight >> reporter: winning 11 statues in all. >> thank you. >> okay, can i just say that michael douglas is definitely a star. he walks in the room and you get it. you just get it. you definitely do, carol.
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i want to tell you, though, one of the big storylines we were watching last night, what would happen with netflix, nominated for 14 emmys and a win. david fincher took home best director all week the talk has been even if they won one of the major categories it would be a clue for netflix so chances are they're pretty happy this morning. carol, when i was talking -- >> i was going to say it means better things for us, more creative programming and that's what we all wish for, right? >> um-hum, and that's exactly what i was hearing last night on the red carpet when i was talking to the hollywood muckity mucks about what they wanted to watch and what they thought the future was. they all said we watch "house of cards." we watch "orange is the new black" because we can watch as much or as little as we want whenever we want so i think that bodes very well for netflix. the times are a-changing. >> yes they are. nischelle turner thanks so much. still ahead, calling george
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we were hoping that horrific attack on the westgate mall in kenya was winding down but we just have words what were gunshots in the area. nima elbagir what are you hearing? >> reporter: we're hearing sustained bursts of gunfire, the heaviest we've heard since yesterday, probably the heaviest we've heard since the height of the attack and hearing what sounds like heavy weaponry and seeing a lot of movement of military and security personnel crossing that road behind me into the area towards the westgate. we have not been allowed to get any further inland than this for our own safety and the interrit
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of what has become a very complex involved and very long operation. the kenyan authorities say they've managed to kill two of the militants inside and although they have freed a large number of the hostages, there are still a number remaining inside. the kenyan defense force which is the military here say that they believe we are now entering the end game, carol. >> we keep hearing all of these conflicting reports. kenyan authorities said a short time ago they have control of the situation, yet there's this gunfire. what might that mean? >> well yes, and that plume of spoke behind me, that was set by the militants themselves. they managed to drag mattresses up onto the roof of the shopping center in a dirversionary tacti to give themselves an advantage in terms of the onslaught from the kenyan military. we have been hearing very conflicting reports.
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we were told late last night local time that we were coming into the end game but there have been long stretches of knack activity and it does feel like after the tension of the watching and waiting that something might be beginning to finally happen. >> nima elbagir, thanks so much. checking other top stories, sikh professor at columbia university says he was atacked and beaten this weekend in central park by men he says were yelling ghetto-sama and terrorists. police are investigating the possible hate crime. two navy crew members still missing after their night hawk helicopter crashed into the red sea. three other crew members were rescued. officials say the helicopter was operating with the destroyer "uss william p. lawrence" when it crashed. the cause is under investigation. where in the world is george zimmerman? according to the attorney for his estranged wife the acquitted of murder is nowhere to be
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found. it's not exactly clear why he's disappeared but shellie zimmerman's attorneys tell cnn a little space and time between the couple just makes sense. it wasn't rain but bees that stopped the mariners/angels game in anaheim. swarm of bees invaded the outfield during the third inning and players headed for the dugouts. wouldn't you? a fan who works for aby hive removal company had to come out of the stands to get rid of most of the bees when some came back a grounds crew keeper used a fire hose to end the threat. president obama spoke at a memorial for 12 people killed at the washington navy yard. it marked the fifth time he's grieved with americans over mass violence. the president said this cannot become the new normal. >> our tears are not enough.
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our words and our prayers are not enough. if we really want to honor these 12 men and women, then we're going to have to change. >> cnn's pamela brown is live in new york with more this morning. good morning. >> good morning to you, carol. it's been one week since 12 people were tragically killed in the shooting of a washington naval yard, renewing the ongoing debate over gun control in this country yet again on one side nra leaders saying more guns in the right hands, on the other president obama saying the only way to prevent future mass shootings is change. president obama giving a passionate eulogy for the victims of the naval yard shooting and calling for a transformation of america's gun laws. >> i'm not accepting these shootings as inevitable but asking what can we do to prevent them from happening again and again and again. >> reporter: earlier in the day nra executive vice president
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wayne lapierre appeared on "meet the press" with a controversial take of what went wrong. >> the problem is there weren't enough good guys with guns. when the good guys with guns got there it stopped. >> reporter: hours of hard and vastly different settings lapierre and the president's comments were almost a match of point, counterpoint. >> it ought to be a shock to all of us as a nation and as a people. it ought to lead to some sort of transformation. >> we need to look at letting the men and women that know firearms and are trained in them do what they do best which is protect and survive. >> reporter: the president once again grieving with americans after four other major mass shootings during his presidency, and ft. hood, texas, tucson, arizona, aurora, colorado, and in to youtown, connecticut, last december. ♪ what's clear, this debate will continue with both sides still unwilling to yield. >> this is the change that we need and it's a change
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overwhelmingly supported by the majority of americans. >> we're going to have this discussion today. it's on other channels. when the camera goes off, nobody's going to do anything. >> lapierre also talked about how mental health records are not in the system as part of background checks for purchasing guns. the president said in his speech yesterday that the u.s. is not inherently prone to mental healthish you autos but it's easier to get a gun here than the uk and australia with stricter gun control laws put in place in recent years. this debate will continue. >> it's like a sad groundhog day, right, the same thing is being said, i know. >> very sad. >> pamela brown thanks so much. still to come in "the newsroom." >> i'm more worried about a more mundane problem. >> what is it? bill clinton's interview with cnn. what he's praising republicans for and what he says is troubling his own party today. o,
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beat builds toward a possible hillary clinton candidate for president her husband continues to make headlines. in an interview with cnn's fareed zakaria bill clinton praised republicans, seriously he did. listen to the former president sharing some love with his former and possibly future political rivals for knowing what they want and being able to reach voters. >> i'm more worried about a more mundane problem, which is that we have not succeeded in persuading people to vote in the off-presidential years in the same numbers as they do in the presidential years. that's something we have to do. >> so you're not worried about the democratic party? >> no, we've got a lot of good people in the party, we've got a lot of good ideas but i think you got to give it to the republicans. they have a much more reliable media base and they want to cut
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♪ "first day of my life" by bright eyes ♪ you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. good morning. i'm carol costello. thanks so much for joining me. thick smoke still pouring from the mall in kenya, the horrible drama continues to unfold. minutes ago heavy gunfire started at the mall. we believe there are still terrorists inside. we don't know whether they're holding hostages. our zain verjee was caught in the middle of it, her camera rolling. >> can we have the helmet? where is the helmet?
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[ gunfire ] come here. [ gunfire ] this is the gunmen. these are the gunmen in all of this. >> you're right. >> reporter: is everyone okay? helmets, helmets. they're saying come inside. what do we do? >> zain is safe. she did go inside. over the weekend, 62 people were killed in this mall, more than 100 others wounded, including americans bendida malanchia from north carolina managed to escape. she spoke to affiliate wavy.
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>> i was scared to death i was going to get a call saying that she was dead. >> reporter: her daughter says the gunmen barged where n where she was eating and started shooting. >> we stood up, starred to turn and there was a second and we heard machine guns and then we started to run and there was a second explosion which knocked us on the ground. >> reporter: she and her friend made it inside a store where dozens of people were hiding hoping the gunshots wouldn't come their way. >> you could hear while we were back there methodically going store to store, talking to people, asking questions, shooting, screams and it would stop for a while and go to another store. >> reporter: in the meantime her mother was glued to the news feeling helpless. >> and i couldn't get to her. i couldn't make the wrongs right. >> reporter: after more than four hours malakia and others were rescued. her mother was horrified to hear
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what her daughter lived through. >> she says in between times could you hear people that had been shot that had, that was in pain. could you hear that, she said. >> reporter: malakia won't let herself feel the hurt, the pain or the terror she felt inside this mall, only gratitude these words weren't the last ones she shared with her mother. >> it was completely luck, we were on the ground floor, easily accessible. we did a lot of praying in there. >> our thanks to affiliate w.a.v.y. we want to talk about the terrorist group responsible, al shaaban. it is actively recruiting inside the united states. the group claims three americans are among the attackers in kenya. nic robertson joins us with more. good morning, nic. what do you know about this group? >> al shabab are say groa group
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came out of the somali conflict. they've been beaten back from mogadishu from a coalition of african forces, 4,000 kenyan forces and when the kenyans went into somalia al shabab began to attack inside kenya, in the early days, this has been going on over the past few years in the early days, small grenade attacks. this is an's scl escalation, th fweeti i tweeting out names of people they say are involved in the attack, they say or have said at least three americans were involved, a british, finnish, canadian, couple of somalis as well. they're trying to get out as much about their international reach as well as mounting this attack that they have never mounted before outside of somalia, carol. >> so why has this group been so successful at recruiting within the united states? what's their sales pitch, for
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lack of a better term? >> their sales pitch for lack of a better term is that they have got something better to offer in somalia, that they are talking to the somali community in the united states, in great britain, about 100 people living in britain i believe have gotten more than 40 from the united states but al shabab is offering a better future, a future to fight for their homeland and they're attracting others from east africa as well, the message has resonated a lot in kenya, a lot of recruits from kenya. why do these young men give up good relatively happy and secure and safe lives in the united states and go there? apparently because they're not happy with their lives in the united states and al shabab is promising them something better. when they get there, they find something different, there have been cases recently of british and american recruits to al shabab of being killed cold by a much more hard line islamist al
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qaeda leaning leadership in al shabab. these days we're hearing from intelligence officials that not so many foreign recruits are going because they see what's happening to them. some of them are being killed by al shabab itself. >> what's also unusual about this group is we're hearing conflicting reports, too, there are women involved and maybe a woman led this attack at the kenya mall. what are you hearing from your sources? >> we're getting conflicting information and i don't think we're going to be certain on any of this until this operation by the kenyan forces is done and dusted, until they have all of the al shabab members in custody and killed but there were reports from people who saw the attackers going in saying that at least three were women and several intelligence sources in kenya have said that one of the women going in as part of this attack was a white woman and that they believe from cctv footage they believe she was a
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british woman. it's not clear who it is, but the implication it is, it could be the woman known as the white widow who was married to one of the 7/7 bombers in 2011, july four bombers detonated explosives on the subway network killing more than 50 people. she was married to one of the bombers and has been on the run in kenya for a long time. is this the woman involved in this attack? it would be high profile if it was. she's wanted by interpol and kenyan authorities but in the last couple of hours kenyan officials say they don't want to talk about the gender issue and going beyond that saying all the attackers were men so they seem to be knocking down this idea even that a woman went in, although they do say that some of the attackers were dressed as women, carol. >> nic robertson, thanks so much. still to come in "the newsroom" despite calls for repeal, obama care is set to
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centurylink. your link to what's next. we are in the middle of a political war over a law no one really understands, obama care or as democrats call it the affordable care act, we're seven days away from open enrollment into obama care and on the verge of a possible government shutdown over that same law.
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yet an nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows nearly 70% of americans don't get it and it's easy to see why. democrat s tout it as the greatest thing since sliced bread. republicans call it apocalyptic or worse. check out this ad. >> okay, let's have a look. [ scream ]. >> yep, that particular ad went viral, it's creepy, right? but is it accurate in wendell potter, senior analyst for the center of public integrity and former health insurance executive. welcome. >> thank you, carol. >> thanks for being back with us. i appreciate it. you realize that many of our viewers will think you're partisan as you answer these questions about obama care so tell our viewers why you're not. >> well i'm not because i spent almost 20 years in the health
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insurance industry and i frankly am a journalist these days what i try to do is provide a perspective what is in the affordable care act. i'm not another partisan throwing barbs one way or another. one of the things that is so apparent is that americans are quite tired hearing politicians who are just yelling at each other about this law. they want to know what's in it for them. >> can you explain obama care to us in a nutshell? is that possible? >> well i think it actually is. it's a complicated law but when you get down to it, the benefits are very important and they're very real and already many americans are benefiting from them. i usually start with myself. i'm a baby boomer. i and about 77 million of us, my wife and i are both baby boomers and a lot of us are uninsured because we've not been able to get coverage at any price because insurance companies have blackpa blackballed us because of preexisting conditions. that ends january 1st. starting october the 1st we can
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start buying policies for the first time for many of us that are affordable. they, being insurance insurance, are no longer able to charge us outrageous prices for policies even if they are willing to sell it to us and also young people, millenials are a big component of the uninsured, my daughter among them and she works for a small retail firm, she'll be able to get coverage for the first time and will qualify for subsidies to help pay the premiums. >> yet wendell, we hear all the time that some companies are telling their part-time employees like we're not going to insure you anymore we're going to send you to the insurance exchanges so you can get your insurance through obama care. is that good? is it bad? >> we're hearing those. >> that's scary to a lot of americans. >> we'll find out. well, yes but one of the things the media hasn't been doing over the past several years is paying attention when employers have done that pre-obama care. this has been going on for many years and we haven't had the
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exchanges there to help us out so at least people will have now the assurance of knowing that they can get affordable care when they need it by buying coverage on the exchanges, if they don't have it through their employer. that is a huge benefit to americans. >> okay so let's talk about getting your insurance through those health care exchanges. i want to go back to that creepy ad that we showed because it implies the government will now play doctor because you're getting your insurance through the government. what's true? >> that's not true at all. you are getting your insurance through private insurance companies. one of the things i quite frankly wasn't that fond of, but this actually makes sure that you have access to private insurance policies when you haven't had that in the past so the government is not involved, the government is just playing a role of organizing the marketplace in a way that makes more sense and makes it possible for many americans to get affordable coverage. >> so you're making it sound pretty rosy, but there's got to be some bad stuff in obama care,
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right, because everybody who is talking against it, i mean they can't all be wrong? >> well, maybe they are. because this has become so political. over the past three years we've had nothing but name calling and a lot of misinformation about a law that really will do a lot of good for people. lot of people already are benefiting from it. insurance companies can no longer refuse to sell coverage to families with children with preexisting conditions. that is really important, saving lives. i've talked to people who tell me they're alive today because they've been able to get coverage and they weren't able to in the past, so yes, there will be unintended consequences. there's no doubt about that. there will be some people who will be having to pay more for their policies because they have been in plans that don't offer very good benefits. they don't know that in many cases until it's too late. junk policies will be banned. that's a good thing but a lot of people will be concerned because they may see some premium
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increases because the junk coverage just will not be . >> wendell potter, thank you so much. we appreciate it. we'll be talking a lot more about obama care throughout this week. so stay with us in the "newsroom, " we're back in a minute. for the days when you get a sudden call from the school, be ready. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer, be ready. when you have children's motrin on hand, you're ready. for high fever, nothing works faster or lasts longer than children's motrin. be ready with children's motrin. [ dings ] ♪ [ male announcer ] every thought... every movement... ♪ ...carefully planned, coordinated and synchronized. ♪ performing together with a single, united purpose.
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checking our top stories at 51 past the hour, president obama will travel to colorado to survey damage from the recent
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flooding there. floodwaters damaged nearly 18,000 homes, several communities, and hundreds of miles of bridges. tap water has also been turned off in at least one town after e. coli bacteria was found in the water supply. seven days to go until a possible govern in the shutdown. a house that funds the government but defunds obama care now lands in the senate. senate democrats are likely to strip out the obama care funding and approve the government funding and send is back to the house before the october 1st deadline. president obama plays the role of counsel in chief, speaking about his grieving with families of the navy yard shooting saying we can't accept such tragedies as the new normal. he pushed for changes again in our gun laws. here's what's all new in the next hour of newsroom, the illinois governor calls for
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combatting gun violence in chicago. >> we will not allow children in the city of chicago to have their youthfulness, optimism, their hope taken from them. >> after a horrific attack at a park, maybe it's time to call in the troops. plus, if you have an iphone, new york police have a message for you. download apple's new operating system. it could protect you from apple thieves. that's all in the next hour of cnn "newsroom." my customers can shop around--
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after 19 dominant years, calling it the end of the season, what way to go out other than with a little bit of metalica. >> whenever yankee fans hear metalica, they know the game is pretty much over at that point. rivera got to hear his song play live in the field. after walking out to "enter sandman," rivera was showered with farewell gifts. his number 42 was retired and he's the last player ever to
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wear this number. it was retired to honor jackie robinson. rivera scored a pitchless game. jim harbaugh and andrew luck at stanford and leave the colts a shocking 27-7 win over the 49ers. colts are now 2-1 on the season. well, new york football fans are either happy or sad this morning depending object whether they are jets or giants' fans. the jets lost 38-0. they are now 0-3 on the season. their worst start since bill clinton was president. the jets, on the other hand, once again found a way to get a "w." they a team record of 20 penalties but a win is a win. they are 2-1 in the season. carol, this is a really weird
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nfl season three weeks in. you have the chiefs and giants and redskins have never been 0-3 at the start of a season ever. >> and pittsburgh, 0-3. >> steelers are 0-3. >> andy schultz, thanks so much. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" after a quick break. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history...
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we're making it. congestion, for the smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the buses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution into the air. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.
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happening now in the "newsroom," terror at the mall. militants open fire and killing innocent civilians. americans may be among the
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victims. how hillary clinton is spending her days. and new york police have a message for you, download apple's new operating system. it could protect you from apple-picking thieves. the second hour of "newsroom" starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. after two straight days of fighting, the armed standoff in the mall of kenya, here is the camera rolling. >> do we have a helmet? where is the helmet?
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>> come in. >> there's a gunman on the loose. >> you're right. >> is everyone okay? >> helmets, helmets. they say come inside. what do we do? >> okay. let's take you live to kenya now because in the last few hours, kenya forces did say they have control of the nairobi mall but smoke is rising from the building. mattresses set on fire by the terrorists may be to blame. two day, two more al shabaab terrorists have been killed. the victims may include three from the united states. 62 people have died since this attack began on saturday. 175 people, including five americans were hurt when a dozen or so armed gunman stormed the
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mall targeting nonmuslims. zain verjee is live in kenya. we saw you ducking from that gunfire. where was it coming from? >> reporter: it was coming from the west gate mall, carol. that's just a short distance sort of to my right diagonally that way. there was a strong exchange of gunfire. the government is saying that they have the whole thing under control. the mall is four levels and it's pretty big. you can fit 3,000 people into it. they are saying it is in control. israeli special forces along with the kenyan military have been in there for hours. however, the gunfire indicates that they do not have everything totally under control. i've spoken to a few analyst who is have been in that kind of situation before and they say analyzing those gunshots sounds like they were clearing rooms and there's a possibility that the gunman, one or two or more, could have still been on the
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loose. it sounds like -- inside the mall. it sounds like they don't have it fully under control. we're also not getting too much information about what the hostage situation is. the government is saying that most of them are freed, but that's it. that's all we've heard. we don't know if they are being debr debriefed, if they have serious casualties or what. typically they would come here but they haven't. carol, there's so much drama going on today. the situation where i am ebbs and flows with different levels of tension. we know how the drama has unfolded but we do not know how it's going to end. with helicopters circling overhead, explosions and gunfire ringing out inside, the kenyan military in a major operation to regain control of most of the westgate mall and rescuing most of the hostages after a two-day standoff. al shabaab militants, al qaeda
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affiliates, stormed the mall on saturday using multiple entrance points, throwing grenads and firing at those inside. >> bullets were running over my head but god protected me. >> he shot at my head but luckily it hit the wall behind me. >> reporter: innocent civilians ducking for cover as gunshots shattered the calm of the packed shopping mall. sheer horror inside the mall as hundreds flee for their lives, some hiding out in stores seeking cover wherever they can to survive. some, like sarah from washington, hid in the stairwell for an hour and a half escaping to safety. >> people were telling us to be quiet. i was pretty afraid that it was unsafe to exit but i did anyway. >> reporter: new york times photographer describes the mayhem he saw. >> some people were shot in the stomach, a leg. dozens of injuries streaming out among terrified civilians.
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you can see that there were people who had been killed, who were laying in different parts of the mall. >> you will be fine. >> reporter: but for kenya's president, the massacre is not only a problem for his country but a personal one. his fiance among the dead. >> i feel the pain and feel your grief of our nation's loss. >> reporter: a north carolina native who was eating on the terrace when the gunmen attacked. >> we stood up and heard machine guns and then we started to run and there was a second explosion which knocked us on the ground. >> malikia counting her blessings after hiding in fear for four hours. >> it was complete luck. we were on the ground floor. we did a lot of praying in there. >> reporter: so many people i know are praying themselves that the hostages that are still maybe trapped in there or if
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they have been released, that they are okay. we are praying that they will be okay. carol, in the last few minute, a helicopter has been circling again. this time it's kind of interesting because it's not taking a wide sweep all around us, it's focusing specifically in that area, which is where the mall is. >> i know you'll keep an eye on it for us. zain verjee live for us today. the fbi is identifying the americans. three may have taken part in that attack. brian todd is in indianapolis. good morning, brian. do we know anything about these three americans? >> reporter: carol, all we know is that the fbi and other law enforcement forces telling us that they are investigating the possibility that three americans may have been involved in that attack. we don't have names yet. there was some misinformation about names earlier and that's been pulled back. just a possibility that
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americans may have been involved but u.s. officials looking into that, looking to confirm that. if there are americans involved, it's a possibility that they could be -- some could be from here in the minneapolis, st. paul area. the reason? this area has been targeted as al shabaab recruitment and to go back to somalia to fight for that terrorist organization. it's been an ongoing problem. the fbi has investigated this for several years. we've been here before doing stories on this situation. there have been indictments in this country on african-americans or others just helping to recruit and some have been put in jail for this. but this is an ongoing problem and i just spoke to a community activist a short time ago who told me that the recruitment is still going on, it's a big problem, and many families are living in fear of the al shabaab recruiters coming to this area,
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promising adventure, some kind of romantic ideal about what it's like to fight in somalia, taking them over there and then they are getting involved in something they are not prepared for. >> i was going to ask you about that because supposedly went down inside this mall was unbelievably cruel, randomly shooting people after asking if they were muslim or not, and that includes men, women, maybe children. what attracts someone from the united states to that kind of lifestyle? >> reporter: well, what we can piece together, what the recruiters do when they come here -- this is according to community activists working to combat this problem, actually, they come here promising them a life of adventure and fun and often misleading them about what can happen once they get there. very often once they get there they are forced to stay with this group. we have heard stories also of some young men, once they get to somalia from this area saying i
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don't want to do this and either being forced to do it or being forced by that group al shabaab who has recruited them. >> brian todd reporting live from indianapolis, thank you. lawmakers have one week to pass a spending bill to avoid a government shutdown. on friday, the house passed a short-term spending bill that would also cut funding for obama care. democrats insist the bill will not pass the senate. where in the world is george zimmerman? according to his attorney for his estranged wife, zimmerman is nowhere to be found. meaning, they have not served him with those divorce papers. it's not exactly clear why he's disappeared but shelley zimmerman's attorney says just a little space between the couple makes sense. nine million iphones sold in the first three days of sales and there's a humongous supply on the streets. but not so much. alison kosik has a new security
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feature that may prevent apple picking. >> i'm used to getting parking tickets from the new york city police athan getting software advice but now new york finest are asking us to go ahead and download that ios 7 now. the nypd are big fans of the apple operating system because it has activation block and the new feature actually forces you to enter an apple i.d. and password before you can turn off the find my iphone app so this would be a deterrent for thieves. they are encouraging everybody who has an iphone to download the operating system so they spend less time tracking down iphones and more time for writing parking tickets. >> i would prefer that. i had my iphone picked.
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it's a scary thing. i know apple is also pushing for this. why aren't users just downloading the new system? >> that's a really good question. part of it is the fact that there's been so much demand for it that it's not downloading fast enough and people are giving up. this is why nypd was out there putting flyers out there. also, attorney general eric snyderman, even san francisco's attorney general were encouraging people to download the ios 7. crooks seem to like these iphones and it's a huge problem that's growing in these major cities. carol? >> it certainly is. they are easily sold because you can get right into them. they have figured out a way, those thieves. hopefully this new security system will work. >> exactly. >> alison kosik, thanks so much. "breaking bad" did not win a lot of emmys last night but it finally got the biggy at the end, winning for best drama. >> and the emmy goes to --
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"breaking bad." >> yes, the show is in its final season but so what. it had previously been nominated three times and the fourth time was a charge. and bob newhart scored big for his role in "the big bang theory." he says it was an awful good script. what a great guy. one of the most talked about emmy speeches last night was this one. >> thank you -- thanks so much. thank you so much. um -- i've got to go. bye. >> i thought she was -- it lasting only 19 seconds. that was merritt wever in "nurse
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jackie." she was scared because the win was so unexpected and she'll figure how she feels in therapy next week. also, at least one television show was snubbed. who was it? nischelle turner will explain later this hour. still to come in the "newsroom," on the one side is the nra, on the other side is president obama. at issue? the nation's gun laws. the president remembers those lost at the navy yard. w tomato florentine soup, it took a little time to get it just right. [ ding ] ♪ but finally, it happened. perfection. at progresso, we've got a passion for quality, because you've got a passion for taste.
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it's the nra versus president obama over whether it's time to revamp the nation's gun laws. president obama said our tears are not enough as he eulogized the 12 people killed last week in the navy yard shooting. the president says something has to change. cnn's pamela brown live in new york with more. good morning. >> good morning to you, carol. it's been one week since 12 people were tragically killed in the navy yard renewing the gun
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debate in this country yet again and talking about the same talking points we heard, president obama saying the obama way to prevent future mass shootings is change. president obama giving a passionate eulogy for the victims of the shooting. >> i'm not accepting these shootings as inevitable but what can we do to prevent them from happening again and again and again? >> earlier wayne la peaiapierre appeared on "meet the press". >> the problem is, there were not enough good guys with guns. when the good guys got there, it stopped. >> lapierre and the president's comments were almost a tennis match of point counterpoint.
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>> it ought to be a shock to us as a nation and as people. it ought to lead to some sort of transformation. >> we need to look at letting the men with firearms to protect and survive. >> the president once again grieving with americans after four our mass shootings during his presidency. in fort hood texas and arizona and chicago and newtown. >> it's the change that we need and it's a change overwhelmingly supported by the majority of americans. >> we're going to have this discussion today. it's on other channels. when the camera goes off, nobody is going to do anything. >> and lapierre touched on how mental health records are not in the system as part as background checks in purchasing guns. the u.s. has not been dealing with mental health issues but
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it's easier to get guns in other countries like the uk and switzerland. the president saying we're not going to see change in the next few weeks or months but there will be change once americans have had enough. >> i don't know, pamela. we've seen this sad movie before. >> i sure have. >> with mr. lapierre. at the end of the day, nothing will change, because it hasn't so far yet, right? >> you're right. we're hearing the same talking points. nothing has changed and that was really part of the president's tone during his speech yesterday. >> pamela brown reporting live for us this morning, thank you. okay. let me bring you up. the next time you fly you might be able to keep your favorite gadget on board a little bit longer, or use it on board a little bit longer. that's because an faa advisory panel is beginning to discuss the rules and it may include e-books or podcasts.
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idea of president. i do, but i'm both pragmatic and realistic. i will just continue to weigh what the factors mean of making a decision after living on this high wire for 20 years, she says she's now enjoying ordinary every day pleasures, living in new york with former president clinton. we laugh at our dogs, we watch stupid movies, we take long walks. we go for a swim. apparently talking about 2016 is not on their list of favorite things. i don't think even he is focused on that right now, she says. >> i think she'd be the first to tell you that there's no such thing as a done deal ever by anybody but i don't know what she's going to do. >> reporter: really? well, clinton's friends and allies are more focused on november 8th, 2016, and talk about how she's grown since she became the runner in 20008. >> she's more comfortable in her
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own skin, she's her own entity in a way she hadn't been before. >> reporter: long time aide is quoted as saying, "she analyzes what went wrong here?" translation, if she runs, 2016 won't look like 2008. >> if she does, she will win and when she becomes president she'll be one of the best equipped people to enter the white house in a very long time. >> reporter: just to be safe, the political action committee, ready for hillary, has raised more than a million dollars and the would-be candidate is staying in the public eye. this week she'll be front and center in her new role of the clinton global initiative. her events this week will include a panel moderated by our own dr. sanjay gupta and i have a little news for you, you can also expect her to make an appearance when president obama and former president clinton talk health care on tuesday night. jessica yellin, cnn, washington.
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siege for over two days. the nairobi mall has been cleared. two more terrorists, they tell me, were killed today. still, black smoke continues to rise from the building after the hostage takers set fire to mattresses inside. so far 62 people have been killed in this attack. one woman from north carolina was able to escape. >> we stood up and started to turn and then we heard machine guns and then we started to run and there was a second explosion which knocked us on the ground. you could hear while we were back there the methodically going from store to store talking to people, asking questions, shooting, screams, and then it would stop for a while and then they would go to another store. it was completely luck. we were on the ground and easily accessible. part of it was luck. we did a lot of praying in there. >> just a short time ago
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congressmen peter king spoke to cnn. he told "new day," kenya is still a dangerous place. >> too often we think that because bin laden is dead that somehow the threat from islamic terrorism is gone. it's not. in many ways it's more dangerous than ever because it's morphing and mestatisizing, all of these countries. >> let's talk about that. i'm joined by nic robertson. good morning, nic. >> reporter: good morning, carol. >> peter king said that we were all in extreme danger. how do you characterize it? >> i remember talking to mr. king about a year and a half ago about exactly this point. he told me about the somalia community in the united states
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being a community there for the al shabaab type recruits could more easily recruit people because of the nature of the community, not sort of integrated. this was his analysis back then and this does seem to have played in al shabaab's favor. they have recruited more than 100 people from who were living in britain. more than 40 in the united states, it's believed. so what we are seeing from al s shabaab at the moment is they are taking a more radical turn. some of the recruits that have come in from outside, some of them have been killed for challenging the leadership. that's a warning for future recruits for sure but right now that organization, al shabaab, is having a more radical turn. >> al shabaab is recruiting here in the united states but they are taking the recruits overseas to carry out their terrorist
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attacks. i'm sure the concern in many american minds is that al shabaab will work with terrorists within the united states. how much of a danger is that? >> that is a danger. here in britain, the head of the mi-5, equivalent to the fbi, three years ago they said that the people fighting alongside al shabaab could be committing crimes on the streets of britain in the future years. so it's a very real concern. at the same time, because so many people have gone and because intelligent agencies have had time to scrutinize who they are, there is a certain level of -- comfort is the wrong word. but there's a certain level of hope, at least, that they would know these people, who they are, and would be able to pick them up if they tried to come back to the united states or the united kingdom. again, that really relies on them coming back in without fake
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passports. it relies on them coming back in through airports or ports where they can be readily picked up. but it is a major concern that they would go to somalia, get training, get this al qaeda ideology, be directed to target places in the united states. so it's -- it is an active concern. there's a hope that it's under control to a degree, carol. >> our international security expert bob baer is joining us. they are recruiting men to go to somalia. but brian todd said that al shabaab is telling these young men that their lives will be better, that they won't take part in these terrible murderous sprees. what do you think about the way that they are able to recruit men from the united states that were born here? >> well, they convince them to go back to somalia to help.
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it may start off as completely benign but once they get in somalia and pick up a gun, they take on this jihadist mentality which is take the war wherever you can, whether it's in nairobi or indianapolis. this is a very real fear. almost every fbi office in the midwest is focused on the somalia community going back second generation, getting trained, and coming back to this country. it's a very real fear which cannot be ignored. >> nic was telling us a short time ago that this was an unusual place to target for al shabaab, this shopping mall in nairobi, kenya, upscale shopping mall, very nice. i'm sure that the authorities here in the united states are also concerned about the so-called soft targets. >> well, they are absolutely indefensible. there's no amount of security that you can put in the mall and ever protect it. it's a soft target, just as
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airplanes were before 9/11. and now we have a new soft target and you're going to see, i think, almost inevitably some sort of copycat attack, whether it's in africa or europe or the united states. >> okay. so what you just said is very frightening, bob. >> i'm very frightened. i've been talking about malls for ten years and nothing has happened. that's the drift. they are going to any target that they can get to and planes are out, malls are in. >> bob baer, nic robertson, thanks so much, i think. checking other stories at 37 minutes past. two crew members are missing after their helicopter crashed into the red sea. the cause of the crash is still under investigation but the navy says it was not due to any sort of hostile activity. vice president joe biden in colorado today where he will survey the aftermath of severe flooding that took seven lives
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and also destroyed homes and roads across the state. the cost of destruction is estimated at nearly $2 billion. still to come in the "newsroom," time is running out for congress. lawmakers have exactly one week to pass a spending bill and will they be able to come up with some kind of compromise as the debate heats up over obama care. ♪
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shut down government. for them, that's a victory because they are anti-government idealogues. >> we can deny it and say we will not allow you to add the funding back for obama care with just 51 votes. >> so is defeating obama care really an option or is this just war of -- is this just a political war taking place on capitol hill, yet another one. cnn contributor's will cain and ana navarro are joining us. will, you heard ted cruz. filibuster, can he do that, according to the rules? will he do that? should he? >> all very different questions. yes, he can do that, should he.
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first of all, in rebuttal to nancy pelosi, this is not a republican desire to shut down the government. this is out of a republican desire to shut down obama care. now, can we accomplish this goal with that mechanism? and it's a strategy and it's a good strategy to the extent that a hail mary is a strategy in a football game. sometimes you find yourself in a position where hail mary is the only option that you have left. there's not a good likelihood that this will work. there's not a likelihood that president obama will sign a continuing resolution that defunded obama care. however, what do you have to lose? if you believe that obama care is a fundamental point in american history, not unlike medicare and social security, and has the ability to transform the american economy, the american health care system, and the relationship between americans and their government, then you throw the hail mary. >> okay. so ana navarro, do you throw the hail mary or not risk a
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government shutdown? >> well, listen, i feel very vulnerable when we start talking football metaphors because, frankly, i'm out of my bailey wig there. but the answer is no. it is -- you know what, what you just put there, those two sound bites are frankly the two extremes. nancy pelosi on the one side calling republicans arsonists, she knows better. she knows the majority of republicans do not want a shutdown and then on the other side you have ted cruz who you either love him because ice an anti-establishment hero or you can't stand him because you think he's a democrat ma going who builds his own and slash and burn republicans. but those are the two extremes. there are a lot of adults in the room who want to work towards a solution. it may sound like a very long time for americans. >> why aren't the grownups winning at this point? why are the loudest voices, in
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your words, not the grownups? >> because it takes 218 votes in the house and there was no way that speaker boehner could get there. so i think what he did was actually a brilliant stroke and a practical move, which was to put -- defund obama care on the floor, send it over to the senate and say to senator cruz gang in the senate, okay, guys, you go and do it. it's in your court. take it and run with it and see if you can score your touchdown. >> okay. will cain, on the hail mary thing that you were talking about, according to a recent orc poll, 51% of americans would blame the gop in congress if the government were to shut down. if you look at that and the possible damage that this might cause the republican party, is the hail mary pass really worth it? >> okay. that's good. now we're talking about the cost. what's the potential downside of heathing the ball down field. but what's the cost?
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first the response to ana. there's been entirely too much focus on ted cruz. he's not alone in this effort. he has mike lee from utah, highly respected. i highly respect senator mike lee who sees this as a viable option. he also has, what is it, 60% of the american people who are extremely frustrated. >> in a week obama care kicks into gear october 1st. where was this viable option a month ago or a year ago? >> the only way to continue to run the government is without obama care. you can't hide that fact. that's what this is about. now, the cost that you're pointing out is the gop may be punished in the next election. that the voters may say, you know what, that wasn't worth it, shutting down the government. what i would offer to you is this. everyone looks back to the '90s. the only rebuttal i can give you is this is not the 1990s. the media landscape is not the same. there are viable outlets that
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everyone can hear and i don't know that the gop would be punished in the same way. >> we'll see, will cain and ana navarro, thank you for your insight. i appreciate it. >> thank you. kenyan authorities have arrested around four people, that's their words, around four people on suspicion of involvement in the mall attack in nairobi. those people are being questioned right now. they were arrested actually at the airport. we'll try to figure out what this all means when we come back. [ male announcer ] when you have sinus pressure and pain, you feel...squeezed. congested. beat down. crushed. as if the weight of the world is resting on your face. but sudafed gives you maximum strength sinus pressure and pain relief. so you feel free.
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checking our top stories at 50 minutes past the hour, another round of violence in chicago where shootings this weekend left several more people dead just days after 13 were wounded in a separate incident. moppi among them, a 13-month-old child. pat quinn says he's now opened to using the national guard. >> our state police do work with communities in the east st. louis area on patrolling and that's at the invitation of the local law enforcement authorities. you've got to have teamwork. so i'm always open for mayor or anyone to talk to us about working in that area. but it has to be done in a coordinated fashion with the
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local law enforcement with their full cooperation. >> the governor was referring to state police. even though the governor did not dismiss deploying the national guard. six years after it debuted, people cannot get enough of the iphone. apple sold a record nine million new iphones and that's just for the first three days of the new iphone 5s and 5c. shares are getting a big boost on the news. still to come in the "newsroom," emmy snub? jack legend left out of the annual memorial. a move his son calls criminal. [ female announcer ] when it comes to your smile,
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glitz, glamour, and controversy. the emmy biggest night leaving out tv legends like jack klugman from their editorial. he was on "the odd couple." >> i'm trying to write something that will make a lot of money for me. >> his fans and his son are blasting the academy for the snub. nischelle turner is live in los angeles with more on this. good morning. >> good morning, carol. i actually kind of see both sides to this one. it's a touchy situation because on one hand you don't want to disparage cory monteith for getting an in memoriam.
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he was honored last night along with james gandolfini and producer gary goldberg. he was never even nominated for an emmy. if you look at the accomplishments of someone like jack klugmam, he won three emmys. he was nominated a total of ten times. so you can probably understand why his son feels like he deserved a special tribute. now, his son told the associated press, quote, i think it's criminal. my dad was at the inception of television and helped build it in the early days and that's really interesting because on the other side, cory monteith's mom said her son deserved the treatment he got last night. there were a lot of stars that passed away that could have earned that spot in that individual "in memoriam," and you kind of wonder how the
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picked who they were going to single out for tribute. it does kind of give you pause. >> i watched a little bit of the emmys last night and, you know, they had i guess co-stars on stage talking about the dearly departed co-worker. i guess i wanted to hear from them. i wanted to hear their work. i liked it better the other way. >> where they played a clip of one of their famous roles and then they did the -- yeah. that was interesting. you know, they did also show some of the other departed actors in a memorial segment that wasn't singled out. so they did kind of do that. i understand what you're saying. because you get that special feeling of seeing them for the last time and then kind of having that "in memoriam." so there's a controversy about that. you're right. it's a talking point today. >> nischelle turner, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. thanks for joining me today. i'm carol costello.
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