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[applause] >> thank you again to t.j. miller and eric andre, and now i am not being sarcastic, and also check out anthon anthony jeselnm to get tickets to my mu fall tour. before i go let's take a look back at the most moment's from tonight's show. >> you guys have been so annoying all night. so now it is time to play get it out of your system. so guys, get it out of your system. >> yeah. >> oh yeah. [cheering] [yelling and screaming] >> and now, it's time to play america's favorite game, who
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made that dog look like that actor. who won that on family ties but then later retreated from society due to mental illness? now let's meet our contestants. good night, kids and go read a book. captioning sponsored by comedy central (cheers and applause). >> john: welcome! welcome to "the daily show." my name is john oliver. i am still here for jon stewart
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who is currently preparing his costume for next year's carnivale. he looks spectacular. (laughter) our guest tonight director of the documentary "the act of killing" joshua oppenheimer will be with us. magnificent film. (applause) we start tonight right here in new york city. >> stop and frisk is a controversial tactic used by police in big cities like new york, los angeles, and philadelphia. in new york, it's been policy for 11 years, defined like this: a person is temporarily detained on the street against his or her will for the purposes of questioning. >> john: that's right, stop and frisk, not just the title of a '90s ripoff of "turner and hooch" about a cop whose partner is a cat. the movie has some problems once the bad guys realize they can
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completely distract the cat with a laser pointer. damn it, frisk, focus! >i've almost got it, sarge! (laughter) for years, opinion in new york has been divided on -- (laughter). i'll allow it. for years, opinion has been divided on frisk with black and latino residents of the city saying it's an invasion of their liberty and white redents saying "oh, i think i heard a thing about that on npr. is that still happen? ing". (laughter) obviously, i don't mean to suggest that it's only use against the city's minorities, but it is almost that. >> between 2004 and 2012 there were 4.43 million stops. 52% were black suspects 3, 1% were hispanic. >> of these thousands of daily frisks, only 6% lead to an arrest. >> john: it's basically like catch-and-release fishing except you get to feel the fish up and shout at it a bit before throwing it back. also, almost all the fish are
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brown. (laughter) this policy has been in place for over a decade. but there may be some good news on the horizon if you happen to be a minority who likes walking. >> today a federal judge called the n.y.p.d.'s policy of stop, question, and frisk unconstitutional. the judge said the city adopted a policy of indirect racial profiling. >> john: it's indirect racial profiling. (laughter) it's like a cop saying "should we frisk people outside the apollo or outside the jimmy buffett concert? tell you what, let's flip a coin and then head up to harlem." (laughter) the judging ruling found the police disproportionately targeted black and latino new yorkers citing, for example, that black new yorkers are 20% more likely to be stopped for furtive movements even though, she writes, there is no evidence that black people's movements are objectively more furtive than the movements of white people! (laughter) look, look, a judicial opinion is not the proper forum to
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discus the differences between white people and black people. allow me. white people reach into their pockets like this. huh? but black people reach into their pockets in exactly the same way. it's the same. (laughter) (cheers and applause) but -- yes, but despite all of that, the judge wasn't suggesting the program be abandoned completely. >> she has not ordered the city to stop doing this program. what she's ordered it is the city to change how it does it. she wants a federal monitor to look at this program. she wants to gather more data on it, wants in selected precincts officers to wear body cameras when tae do these stop and frisks so that court cans get a better idea of how it works. >> john: interestingly, that body camera idea wasn't original, it was already
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proposed by one of the mayoral candidates. i will give you one guess which one. (laughter) >> so among my proposals were substantial ones about what you do in the stop stop and frisk air era and i propose lapel cameras for police officers. >> john: you heard right, weiner is suggesting body cameras facing out. by the way, do you know how hard it was for our researchers to find that particular clip? try googling "weiner, body, camera" and see how many hits you get. let's be fair, wynner is trying to keep the city from danger. carlos danger. ♪ danger, danger (laughter and applause) one person who is not happy with the judge's ruling is the current mayor. >> throughout the case we didn't believe that we were getting a fair trial and this decision confirms that suspicion and we will be presenting evidence of that unfairness to the appeals
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court. >> john: hold on. let me get this straight. you think this program is being unfairly stopped and scrutinized even though it's done nothing wrong? (laughter) i think i know millions of blacks and latinos in this city who know exactly how you feel. (cheers and applause) but bloomberg isn't alone in being disappointed. police commissioner ray kelly believe there is a simple way for stop and frisk's target to deal with it. >> the best thing for someone to do that's being stopd is cooperate. accept it as a fact of urban life. (audience reacts). >> john: it's a fact of urban life. like bike lanes or alternative parking or your neighbor leaving her labradoodle (bleep) right in front of the building. (laughter) i know it was you, tina! pick up after rosco! it's not rosco's fault! this policy is easy to ignore for those who don't have to deal with its consequences. but i'm curious, for those that do, what is this fact of urban
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life really like? >> police start running at with us their guns drawn saying everybody get on the floor, no gun was found, nobody was arrested. >> they didn't ask for no i.d., they just said put your hand up. >> touched me all over, even in my private parts. >> just going through my pockets, going up, down. >> i'll break your (bleep)ing arm. >> for what? >> shut your (bleep)ing mouth! >> john: i actually think i get it now. for a moment, let me address the white people. you know how we feel at the airport when the t.s.a. is patting us down unnecessarily delaying us looking for weapons which we obviously don't have and we just try to get to our gate? well, imagine your whole neighborhood is terminal "b" at laguardia. (laughter) and the t.s.a. agents sometimes talk to you like this. "boarding pass and what the (bleep) are you looking at? open that computer bag before i break your arm mother (bleep)er!" irritating, isn't it?
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a little irritating. (cheers and applause) for turn we turn to senior daily show correspondent jessica williams. jessica, as someone who is more likely to be affected by this than i am, do you agree that stop and frisk goes too far? >> no! i agree with commissioner kelly. if anything, stop and frisk doesn't go far enough! john, people need to accept this program as a fact of urban life. and right now i'm standing in one of new york's most crime-ridden neighborhoods. >> john: where exactly are you, jess? >> i'm on wall street. (cheers and applause) >> jon: what? you're on wall street? >> yeah, i'm on wall street. the white bronx, business harlem. and frankly, john, i don't feel safe here. and i would like to see the police do their freaking jobs and start stopping people down here. >> john: that's not fair. that's not fair, jessica. you're calling for the arbitrary harassment of anyone on wall street. >> no, no, no. just people you suspect to be white collar criminals. you know, walking around in tailored suits, slicked back
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hair, always need sunscreen, if you know what i'm saying. (laughter). >> john: i don't like the implication there. >> look, i know this isn't comfortable but if you don't want to be associated with white-collar crime maybe you shouldn't dress that way! boom! >> john: whoa, whoa, whoa. i don't like that. that's racist. jessica, that is racist. you're profiling white men in suits. i am a white man in a suit. >> hey, it's okay. i can say that. some of my best friend are white men in suit. >> john: that's a foul. >> they're totally fine with it. and sure, the system is not perfect. 90% of people who are stopped won't have done anything wrong. but isn't it worth a slight inconvenience to their day if it means just stopping one investment bank from betting against the same product it's selling? >> john: no, no, jessica, can i tell you this? you are merely perpetuate ago negative stereotype. that's ignorance. that's all that is. (laughter) >> john, i hate to say it because i don't live in their neighborhoods or experience the
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problems specific to their lives. >> john: that's right, you don't. you don't. >> but it is a hard fact that white-collar crime is disproportionately committed by people fit a serb profile. >> john: hey, hey -- >> so if you're say white upper east side billionaire with ties to the financial community like michael bloomberg, you've just got to accept getting roughed up by the police every once in a while! (cheers and applause) you know, for everyone's safety. >> john: jessica williams, xn,x#4hf
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(cheers and applause). >> jon: welcome back. hold on tight. what follows is one of the most important stories we've ever covered ever. jason jones reports. >> america has always had an obsession with the wild west. but here in fresno, a modern day jesse james is tearing this once sleepy community apart. and this peaceful hamlet of family farms provided the perfect cover for a trafficking ring so big that the federal government hired a private security firm to bring it down. >> our objective was to investigate the product that was being processed at mr. horn's plant. >> our main base was either here at this corner or north of hi plant. >> we had six to eight agents from sunup to sundown. >> well, he called me a fat ass.
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>> seems a little dangerous. what kind of product are we talking about? coke? heroine? >> raisins. >> that's code for what? >> raisins. >> he's a raisin outlaw. ♪ ♪ >> this is raisin outlaw marvin horne who is actually accused of defrauding the government of dried fruit because he refused to contribute to the united states national raisin reserve-- which apparently is a real thing that the government uses to help regulate the cost of raisins. >> my biggest issue was the raisin administrative committee now is they confiscate a portion of my crop and don't pay me for it. >> that just defies all thought or raisins. (laughter) >> i started stacking my raisins up, i didn't want to give it to them anymore. >> and what's your raisin for doing what you're doing? (laughter) >> my whole goal always was to pack my own raisins and sell them. >> so essentially, that is your
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raison d'etre? >> okay, jason, i see you're trying to be a little funny here but this is not a joke. there is no joke when somebody comes and takes your farm away from you. that's no joke. >> i'm sorry. i apologize. i was being unraisinnable. (laughter) i know what you're thinking. it's the middle of the summer, the boss doesn't come back for another week, i'm phoning in a field piece about (bleep)ing raisins. i would have agreed with you until i heard this. how much do you owe them now? >> approximately $1.5 million. >> i'm sorry? $11 .5 million? >> yes. >> that may sound ridiculous. that's because it is. so i high hired a highly trained raisin sniffing companion to help me track down the raisin administrative council. >> our job is to measure and be aware of the supply and demand picture of california raisins and to regulate that volume by perhaps setting some aside on
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the sidelines for a while. >> i'm no raisin expert, but this kind of sound like two scoops of bull (bleep). (laughter) and just when i thought this story couldn't get stupider, i heard this. >> sun valley raisin growers took their battle with the federal government all the way to the supreme court. >> so you mean to tell me scalia, roberts, sotomayor, sat there and listened to oral arguments over raisins? >> yes. and they had some very penetrating questions. >> as the supreme court transcript shows, the court may have been the only one taking this seriously. >> case 12-123, horne v. department of agriculture. >> what was the interest that they're claiming was taken by the government? >> do you have any idea how many landmark cases we still have to rule on? >> being part raisin, i feel i must recuse myself. >> may i please have a raisin. >> get these raisins out of my (bleep)ing court! >> in the end the justices ruled
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unanimously that it wasn't worth their time to issue a ruling. but marvin horne vows to fight on. >> i declared war on the u.s.d.a. i'm not going to give you my raisins anymore. >> sounds like you're raisin a little hell. (laughter) be careful, marvin, the raisin council is a ruthless organization. you remember these lovable guys? ever wonder what happened to them? >> well, we used them about 25 years ago and used them until their value and their equity was up. >> so you just made them sing and dance for years upon years and then offed them? >> the state marketing board has chosen to de-emphasize the dancing raisins. >> and that's it. these guys had a saturday morning cartoon and they whacked them like they were nobodies. the truth is, marvin, you better watch your back. you don't come to the raisin council, they come to you.
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(laughter) (screaming) >> john: incredible work, jason. we'll be right
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(cheers and applause). >> jon: welcome back, my guest tonight is the director of the new documentary film called "the act of killing."
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>> john: please welcome joshua oppenheimer. (cheers and applause) joshua, this is an incredible, complicated, devastating documentary. it took me two hours to watch it, about three days to get over it. give me -- give me -- in the broadest possible terms explain what this is about and get into it. >> basically, in 1965 the indonesian army overthrew the democratically elected government, left-leaning government of president sukarno and they used death squads to kill all the opponents of the new regime and somewhere between half a million and two and a half million people were killed inless than a year. and the people who did it have basically been in power or enjoyed -- been in power ever since and so when you ask them about what they did, instead of
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acting apologetic about it or denying it, they boast about it. so to understand the nature of their boasting, why they're boasting, the effect, how they see themselves, what this means to their society i let them dramatize what they've done in whatever ways they wish to understand the nature of the act of killing. >> john: because there has been no truth and reconciliation in indonesia. they are living in the world that they were living in in 1965 around the killers, there's been no justice for them. so i guess my first question is how did you do this? i mean, how did you gain the trust of these admitted mass murderers who have not been convicted? >> well, because they've been in power ever since it was all -- all one had to do is go and ask "what did you do for a living?" and to our horror they would come out with these horrific stories of mass killing and tell them in front of their grandchildren, their wives, their children, and we started -- i started to wonder what -- i started to feel as though i'd
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walked into germany 40 years after the holocaust to find the nazis still in power. and i wanted to understand what had happened to this society as a result of building a normality on the basis of terror. >> john: the very title "the act of killing" is deeply profound because for a lot of these men, as you see, it was a performance, it was an act. they openly say that they were emulating movies that they had seen, sometimes that they had literally just walked out of. >> in the city where we made the film, the army recruited the killers from the ranks of what were called movie theater gangsters. these were gangsters who were selling movie theater tickets on the black market, hanging out in movie theaters as a base -- using them as a base for much more serious criminal activity and they loved hollywood movies. and killing is a profoundly human act. we're really the only species that does it, but it's also a traumatic act. so killers need to distance
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themselves from what they do and anwar and his friends, the man in "the act of killing" those are the main characters, they used movies to distance themselves. they would come out of the movie theater intoxicated by whatever they had just seen and used that feeling of cinematic -- their love of cinema to distance themselves from the reality of what they were doing. >> john: and the dislocation that you're talking about, that is what is incredible. when they were reenacting scenes -- there's a moment where you're showing anwar congo, you're showing him talk about these horrors that he's inflicted and you were expecting it to sink in at that point and he says "josh, what i would never have worn white pants." and you think your pants wear is really not the issue here. (laughter) >> well, exactly. but the think is, anwar knows that. because in the -- the very first time i filmed anwar he takes me to a roof top where he killed
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hundreds and hundreds of people, shows how he did it, then says that he is a good dancer because ever since killing he's been going out drinking, taking drugs and dancing. and he starts showing how he's a good dancer. he dance it is cha-cha that on the spot where he's killed hundreds of people and to understand how he can do this i show him that footage back and he looked profoundly disturbed. and i'm sure he's disturbed about what happened on that roof. about the killing itself. but instead of saying that -- because to say that would be to admit it was wrong, which he's never been forced to do. instead he says "i should change my clothes. i should dye my hair, i should act better." and in that sense he is -- he is the -- the motor, what is fueling the process of reenactment of dramatization which makes the film more and more surreal until it becomes a kind of fever dream. >> john: can you stick around and go to the web? it's truly one of the most incredible, a -fbgting,
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impacting movies i've ever seen. "the act of killing" is in the theaters now. joshua oppenheimer. (chnd
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(cheers and applause) (audience chanting "stephen"). >> stephen: welcome to "the report." thank you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen. please, you're very kind. (cheers and applause) nation, nation, i don't want to alarm anyone but when you leave my studio tonight, you may very well be hunted for sport. because yesterday new york city became a kill zone. >> a federal judge has ruled new york city's controversial stop and frisk program violates the constitutional rights of minorities by "conducting stops in a racially discriminatory manner." >> stephen: that's right, folks. unelected activist judge has rejected stop and frisk on the bizarre theory that minorities have a constitutional right not to be stopped at random and man

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