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from comedy central's world news headquarters in new york, this is the daily show with jon stewart captioning sponsored by comedy central >> hey, everybody, welcome to the daily show. my name is jon stewart. great show for you tonight. my guest, brian. >>i jones, the author of a new biography on jim henson. very excited to talk to him. earlier this week we talked about how the official launch of obamacare was marred by web glitches anlong delays.
but there was another major obstacle to obamacare's implementation. total dickishness. you see, obamacare for all its well-documented issues and problems is still a well-intentioned attempt to get people who have not had health insurance in this country health insurance. medicaid has traditionally covered people up to this income level. obamacare was going to cover them ostensibly down to this income level. so it was going to be the gap there, about the size of an ipad ee cement instead of an ipad it is about 8 million people living just above the poverty line so to provide health insurance for this nation's, you know, center, the federal government was going give the state government money to expand their medicaid program. for three years the state would pay for this program, i think the number was about 0. and then after that, they would pay up to 10%, i think, by the time it was 2020. so what a great deal.
but wouldn't you know it. >> 26 states declined to go to that expense. >> 26 states. holy-- that's like a third of-- (laughter) a little more-- 26 states! it must be a pretty eclectic group with many different reasons to explain why they would turn down federal money to bring health care to their working poor or may be it was just one reason. >> all of those states have republican governors or legislatures that are controlled by republicans. >> oh. which makes it really hard not to see this is just the latest example of that hit game show sweeping part of the nation, what dow hate more, poverty or obama? what, spite, spite, the emotion that makes you turn down millions of dollars that would go towards health care for the working poor because you hate the president. and arbies.
arby's. (laughter) technically it's food. now of course-- of course i imagine that the state when asked why they didn't accept the medicaid expansion don't probably list spite as the answer. so let's see what their reason is. you there, governor of the state in this nation that has the most uninsured children out of any other state. >> medicaid expansion is simply put a misguided and ultimately doomed attempt to mask the shortcomings of obamacare. >> to expand this program is not unlike adding a thousand people to the titanic. >> jon: true, that's true. that's really true. if the titanic had crashed into a hospital. (laughter) >> you know what, everything's big never texas,
especially tumors. what about you, mississippi. you, mississippi, or as you are also known, the 49th healthiest state in the union-issippi. >> of all the states in the country that should be embracing some of the changes coming from obamacare, your critics without say mississippi should be at the front of the list. >> peter, the problem is, it is the worst system of delivering health care known to man. >> jon: no, it's not. listen, it's not perfect. a lot of things we'd like to change but it is not the worst system of delivering heal care known to man. as anybody knows who has been a patient at enema hut. (laughter) enema hut, because there ain't nothing wrong with you that can't be cured by some rectal irrigation. now you are probably thinking, jon, this is so abstract with these numbers. can you show me what you're talking about? maybe with an example from the show me state, missouri.
>> 45-year-old bertha mcintyre needs daily medication. she does not qualify for medicaid in missouri because her family income is too high, about $1200 a month. >> well ain't she fancy! what, with her clothes and shelter. see that woman is considered too rich for medicaid, but too poor for the obamacare sub at thises to have an effect. yes, that's how much sense this all makes. so why not expand medicaid, missouri. >> republican state senator john lamping argues missouri faces tough choices. >> the entire cost of medicaid in missouri is one-third of missouri's budget. we can barely afford to be in the medicaid program as it exists today. >> jon: boy, this is a tough choice. should we as a state accept 100% of this program's expansion costs from the federal gofer for the first three years or i don't know-- [bleep] it? but it is a tough choice.
what are some of the tough choices. >> am i going to take food out of a child's stomach or am i going to take her to the doctor, which would you choose? >> here's its best part. these governors and legislatures who refuse to accept federal dollars to expand medicaid for people like that nice lady, all but three of those 26 states they represent already take more money from the federal government than they contribute in tax dollars. they are already burdens on the system. i believe they're referred to by those republicans as moochers. moocher states. and if statehood was health care, mississippi and missouri would be rejected as having that as a preexisting condition. so you may be thinking to yourself, so what do these uninsured people do for health care. well, republicans actually had that covered in the last presidential election. not sure how that worked out. >> well, we do provide care for people without don't
have insurance. people, if someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and die. we pick them up in a ambulance and take them to the hospital and give them care. >> jon: historical footnote is right. you can always go to the emergency room. you can always go to the emergency room when you're having a heart attackment and apparently they think that's the fiscally responsible option rather than expandsing medicaid, because unlike obamacare, we all know er visits are free! just one little problem. >> when the uninsured end up here in the er, their costs are passed on to paying customers. that means insurance companies end up paying more so they raise rates. and fewer people can afford health insurance. >> the impact to our hospital district is $52 million a year. had we expanded medicaid, we would have got that 52 million from the federal government instead we're getting from local taxpayers. >> jon: got it?
medical care for the uninsured has already ballooned the cost of the system. this is an attempts to gain control of those costs. so if you have a better answer, republicans, let's [bleep] hear it! but don't make your plan, what do we need food stamps for when we already have dine and dash. we'll be right back. (cheers and applause)
remember when, remember when our country used to have a government? well, that could come back some day. and when that happens, we'll be looking at a little issue known as immigration reform. asive mandvi reports. >> some members of the house think that it's time for congress to finally enact sweeping immigration reform. going so far as to get arrested for the causement but calmer voices have some reasonable concerns. immigration expert dennis michael lynch. >> there are people who are coming here who want to come to cut your lawn and have a better life. but there are people who want to cut your throat. >> yes, not just one type of illegal immigrant, there are two. >> an they're impossible to tell apparent. >> in the event that amnesty is illegal, then what happens to america, we could find ourselve with another 9/11. >> okay. listen, stop soft selling, give it to me straight. >> we could suffer another
9/11, some of them have machine gun, other ones have big huge packages in the way of drugs, your daughter or my daughter is being raped by a gang of thugs. >> i don't want by kids getting hit by anybody who is driving a car drunk, especially somebody who shouldn't be here, without doesn't have a licence. >> right. but if your kid was killed by a drunk driver it would be worse for if you that person was illegal. >> it would be. that person was here illegally i would find that to be a problem. >> it is a problem. and i appreciate you not overstating it. >> the danger is real. but where is the greatest threat? >> everywhere, from sea to shining sea. >> so i visited a typical american community. suffering under a recent increase in illegal immigration. dayton ohio city manager tim riordon. >> the influx of immigrants into dayton has been a good thing. >> what? do you know how much money we get in tax moneys from the immigrants in they create jobs. they create businesses. >> focus on the right thing.
they're illegal. >> i guess which say to you focus on the right thing. they're tax paying membersment we don't ask any questions about immigration. >> idiots. dayton even has a program based on nothing but the city's economic experience that encourages the foreign menace to move there. don't they realize the risks? >> we know that we're more likely to have another 9/11 or our daughters to be raped if we let undocumented immigrants into the country. >> we catch the people who are the bad people. we want to solve problems and have a better community. >> you're the one creating problems. i'm trying to come up with a simple solution that is based on fear and hate. >> truth is, studies show illegal immigrants do make a few billion small contributions to state and local economies each year. but opponents of reform like dennis lynch don't buy it. >> what about all the reports that say illegals benefit the economy. >> i don't like to read the reports. i'm not a reports guy. >> the reports be damned.
illegal immigration costs a great deal of money. >> it's that simple. >> that simple. >> you would think it would be more complicated with millions of people interacting with the economy in untracked ways. you know, you would think that you would want to sit down with a calculator, figure this out. >> you don't need a calculator. >> really? >> no. i've done my research. i go down to the border. i hide in places such as bushes, to see what is coming over, how many of them are coming over. and the numbers are breathtakingly scary. >> with his own eyes and his own tiny binoculars dennis lynch has seen the truth firsthand. illegal immigrants are bad for america. just ask an expert like socialiologist dave court. >> i think you are making an incorrect conclusion. immigrants aren't bad for america. but in some ways america is bad for immigrants. >> in what ways? >> they are pick up bad cultural practices. and they're getting fatter, like americans. they're getting high rates of diabetes like americans
and they're getting high rates of heart disease like americans. >> oh my god! this turns the whole thing on its head. >> turns out america is terrible for the health of immigrants. this is the solution lynch is looking for. >> did you know that america is making illegal immigrants fatter and less healthier? listen, heart disease might do what-- has not been able to, maybe you should work with that. >> okay. my message is not anti-immigrant. it's pro-american. >> come on! it's genius! enstead of scaring americans about immigration reform, we use fear tactics on the immigrants themselves. i set out to scare away a group of want a be citizens in pledge form. >> one nation. >> one nation. >> under melted cheese. >> under melted cheese. >> indiguessable. >> indigestible. >> with extra large soda and fries for only 20 cents more.
>> and with extra large soda and fries for only 20 cents more. >> yes, to save all that we cherish, lynch and his allies know that exaggerated fear is our only hope. >> we don't know why they're here. >> right. >> we have found korans and prayer rugs in the desert. illegal immigration is the biggest problem we have facing the country. >> are you sure the problem is really illegal? because it might be reaction fear based on the be aeblt to come up with piddle of the red solutions for complex problems. >> -- (cheers and applause) .
>> jon: my guest tonight, author his new book is called jim henson, the biography, welcome to the program brian jay jones. >> thank you. >> thanks, great to be here. >> you know, jim henson, the biography, here was for me i think almost the most stunning part. it's been over 20 years. >> yeah. >> since jim henson's death. >> yeah, and for a lot of people it still seems like yesterday. that math i think really stuns people sometimes. >> it's incredible. and i still remember, you know, there are always people that when they pass away you think oh, that was a good man, that's a shame.
but boy, he left a big hole. >> man. >> yeah. >> in everybody's heart. i mean it was really very special guy. >> yeah. i mean there is a reason that everyone still knows and loves the muppets and that disney is rebooting them and trying to get them back in our consciousness. it's a huge legacy, that he did and actually when you think about continuation a very short time. >> and what's funny, you know, we have such memories of it. and yet as you go through the book you go oh, right, the original show was hosted by a puppet named nigel. >> right. and he called it section violet. >> by few gel that doesn't sound right at all. that didn't really work. >> that didn't really work. >> it took him, that was a really study in stick to itiveness. there aren't a lot of people who would put out a pilot v it fail, and another and it took take hold and does it again and it feenlly catches on. >> and the strange thing is how it much cass on. you know, "saturday night live" which is this
incredible counterculture and explosive, satirical new way of looking at things, i mean really created a whole different genre of television and then here is this guy with his puppets. >> yeah, he's on there. and john bell you werei calls them the mucking fup ets, they hated sharing air time ts with a bad dna of the muppet and snl mentality. it turned out okay. the muppet came along the first season and they could wave good-bye nicely. but the team did send a postcard back from london and say whatever happened to the mucking fupet, here we are, biggest musical in the world. and jim henson had a show, this guy had artist soul and inventor soul and really a bit of a renaissance man. >> yeah. and did it all it was sort of creatively reckless. throughout the '60s he wanted to do an inflatable nightclub and drop it in an
alley in new york city and bring down women in white lee pardon-- lee tarreds and project movies on them and play music. >> everybody in the audience was going, where is this place. i will go there. >> and the technology wasn't there for him yet. he was a little too far ahead of the curve a lot of the time. he is doing sort of hippie documentaries and he's doing sort of twilight zonie short specials for nbc. and finally the exclamation point at the end of the '60s is we know "sesame street" come as long. he said you.i was an experimental filmmaker and then hi the muppets. the muppets finally took hold. >> but the fusion of the two is almost why it worked. because when you watch the muppets, there was-- it didn't have the condescension or the sort of strange addressant nature of may be some of the other puppet things. it was infused with a very so fist cated and su versive sense. >> not too tired an not too sweet. that sweet spot between loone tunes and disney, and
you know, the muppets are fun and they're family. and i think that's why people really ended up loving them. the relationship they have, the muppet show with kermit is kind of the eye of the hurricane, that was the way it was with jim. he was the eye of that heuer karntion the glue that held them all together. it was crazy, hes with instigatedding sometimes but brought them all back together and that is really what made them all work, jim loved to, wol. it was always fun and that shows up. >> an he watts easternman, that is why i think his death was so stunning, a, that it was so abrupt and sudden and he had been so healthy. and i still remember, boy, if you want a good ciafest go on youtube and find henson found ral because this is, people are in shock. and there's the puppets. i mean it is one of the few times you can really bring a pup tote a funeral. >> right. >> and in his absence is at the timeable in there you can shall did -- i mean are you really missing him when you see that it is heartbreaking. >> it is heartbreaking. and it is, i always used to think i will go to the doctor, like three days earlier that is not really the case. >> it was so severe, by the time the symptoms were
showing some said it was so strong by the time symptoms showed up it was probably too late anyway. one of those thing, most guys, ride it out. i'll be fine. >> i'm that way, if i get sick, no, i'm to the going to go to the doctor. i will sleep there. >> exactly. >> well, i'm really glad, you know, it strikes me the first time anybody has really cataloged his life and put it out there and it is a wonderful memoir. >> thank you. >> a wonderful memory for him. called jim henson the biography, on the book shelves now. brian jay jones. thank you, sir. (applause)
>> that's our show. hey, before we go, though. let me tell you a little story, it is a story about, it's kind of a table, really, about this punk kid from long island. let me see if i have got any footage of him. there he is, right there looks like kind of a punkie kid carrying a toilet in new york city. oh, gee, i don't know what this kid is doing. just-- just terrible. and the whole thing is just terrible. anyway that kid's name is rory albany. and i got to the show in 1999ment he started probably about two months after that. and he was a wise ass. and i really liked him. and i noticed that whatever job we gave him, he kansas citied that job's ass. like did it great, was really smart, really funny. and just kept working. so we kept giving him more responsibility and more creative control. and more things to do. and every time de t he would
knock it out of the park. so now i done know what it is now, 2032, whatever, 2013. so this kid who started at this show in 1999 as a pa sitting with his naked ass on a toilet in time's square has been our executive producer for the last five years. a tremendous story. and has gone from that anonymous beginning all the way to this. >> i smokey the bear a loved american icon have been given [bleep] for money. >> jon: all right. come out here, rory albany. get out here. this is the guy. get over here. (applause) this is the guy! we're going to miss him. he's all grown-up. your moment of zen.
>> let me get this straight you're asking me if it's hard to get laid off of a job i've held since 19 fricking 44. >> yeah, yeah. >> is that what are you asking me. >> i this that is what i asked you, yeah. >> let me ask you a captioning sponsored by comedy central ( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: welcome toot report. thank you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen. >> stephen! stephen! stephen! stephen! stephen! >> stephen: thank you so