tv The Nightly Show With Larry Wilmore Comedy Central January 27, 2015 9:54am-10:25am PST
>> larry: tonightly, controversial weekend at the box office. american sniper raises the question: is this guy an asshole or a hero? while mortdecai raises the question: who's the asshole who green lit mortdecai? some people are angry that american sniper doesn't accurately criticize the iraq war. here, i'll do it for you: it's bad. should war movies be accurate? i hope not, because those apes freak me the (bleep) out. it's 27 degrees outside, but we're keeping it 100 in here. this is "the nightly show. (cheers and applause)
captioning sponsored by comedy central >> larry: i can't believe it! can't be true! thank you very much! calm down! appreciate it! that's right. i'm your host larry wilmore. welcome to the "the nightly show." before we start, there's a storm that's hit new york city. so god bless you guys for coming in. unbelievable. (cheers and applause) i appreciate it. i don't know how you're going to get home. look outside our studio right now. i saw this outside on the sudden river ten minutes ago.
not making this up. that's my ride home. my u-bear. now, there's not only a storm here in new york city. this was another storm gathering at the box office this weekend. >> american sniper is really hitting its mark. the blockbuster details the life of legendary navy seal chris kyle. the deadliest sniper in u.s. history. he's played by bradley cooper. >> you got a grenade, handing it to the kid. >> now number one for the second weekend in a row already bringing in more than $200 million in the u.s. >> larry: 200 million? man! that's the cost of, like, 40 seconds of the actual iraq war. (applause) so "american sniper" is already the biggest january release ever and is on pace to beat "passion of the christ" as the number one r-rated movie of all time. it's official. bradley cooper is the new
r-rated jesus. (cheers and applause) (hallelujah chorus music) ♪ hallelujah! ♪ ♪ hallelujah! ♪ >> larry: so why is this movie striking such a chord with people? maybe people just love a good war hero. >> most of the conversation about iraq is negative, and most of the conversation about what happened with our country in iraq is negative. this is a positive portrayal. this is a film with an american hero. >> larry: and hollywood is taking notice. columbia pictures is rebooting "black hawk down" as a musical called "black hawk up"! (laughter) (applause) i've heard neil patrick harris crushes it. whatever it is, "american sniper" has been a virtual i.e.d of emotions since its release. this film has become a political football faster than you could say "michael moore." michael moore who reports his
uncles were killed by snipers in world war ii said we were taught snipers were cowards. will shoot you in the back. snipers aren't heros. >> larry: a lot of people are upset at michael moore for throwing shade at snipers but in all fairness, at the throws shade on everything in his immediate vicinity. (applause) some call him a hate-filled hero, some -- hate-filled killer and some call him a hero. >> shenaz i'd like to get your perspective. >> shenaz: well, larry, it's very difficult for me to be impartiality about this 13-year conflict. on the one hand, you have the soldier chris kyle and the brutal killings that he was ordered to do. and on the other hand, you have bradley cooper. have you seen his eyes? it's like looking into the ocean! >> larry: i'm not so sure that's the other hand...
>> shenaz: then forget his hands, larry. have you seen his shoulders? b-coop added 40 pounds of sexy to play this role. >> larry: all right, shenaz. let's focus on chris kyle. some people thought by some of the comments he made that he might have been a jerk. i mean, the movie opened with him shooting a child. that was very sad. >> shenaz: yes, that is very sad. and i could see bradley cooper struggling with that decision. i mean, larry, his work as an actor was amazing. it was nothing short of heroic. he grew a beard. give the man an oscar! >> larry: shenaz, people aren't questioning whether bradley cooper's performance was heroic. they're questioning whether chris kyle was heroic. >> shenaz: larry, why do you keep bringing up this chris kyle? war is hell. i get it! but if i'm plunking down $19.75 at the multi-plex, momma needs to see some abs! >> larry: all right, i get it. shenaz treasury, everybody!
(cheers and applause) i guess i just don't take movies that seriously. if i did, i'd leave that every -- if i did, i'd believe that every time i got on a plane there would be some (bleep) snakes. which i do. but that serves me right for flying spirit. (applause) but i get it -- movies can have a powerful effect on how people feel. with world war ii, movies like "saving private ryan" solidified our feelings about those vets -- they're heroes. there's no moral ambiguity. matt damon was worth saving, tom hanks wasn't. simple. but vietnam movies took that clear heroism away from our veterans, whether they were white men, black men or white men playing black men. (laughter) i still ain't right with that
one. (laughter) the cold war classic "top gun" taught us that we immediate to -- taught us we need to take care of our vets because some offour soldiers age well and some don't. looks like the ice man became the ice cream man. (laughter) and the lessons of the first gulf war still echo in my ears when i recall the timeless stirring dialogue of "major payne," who said, and i quote, "maybe what he need is for you to pop your titty out his mouth and let the boy grow up." unquote. (cheers and applause) ooh. that still gets to me. i guess what i'm trying to say is, nobody thinks the first gulf war was significant enough to make any good movies about it. for all the conversation this film has stirred up, one thing many people seem to be forgetting about "american sniper" is that it's just one interpretation of one soldier's story. whether you're pro-"american sniper" or against "american
sniper," both sides need to remember -- the actual theater of war is very different than watching a film about war in a theater. but if there's one thing we can all agree on -- even the terrorists -- it's that bradley cooper's got some ridiculous abs. we'll be right back. for just $4 you can get an everyday value slam, all you can eat pancakes our new biscuits smothered in sausage gravy, or the new cookies 'n cream mega sundae. you know, i'm more than a cook. i'm everyone's best friend. 4 dishes for 4 dollars each. denny's. welcome to america's diner.
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america journalist paul rieckhoff, comedienne sabrina jalees, and former special ops sniper and author of "the reaper," nick irving. (cheers and applause) thank you. appreciate it. it's amazing a movie like this will make $200 million. why do you think that? >> it's a great movie. it's communicating what we as veterans haven't been able to communicate for a decade. there are a lot of pieces to pull apart but at the end of the day it's powerful. the veterans community is behind it. it feels authentic and real and it's entertaining. that has america talking. >> larry: you feel it's that simple level, it's just that we want to feel good about iraq? >> america is not that interested in iraq or veterans
issues. we had a v.a. scandal and nobody gave a (bleep) but now everyone is focused. i'll take that. we need to find connections and this film does that. >> larry: if it gives attention to veterans that's good. >> right. >> larry: were your criticisms that you felt the movie was inaccurate or the portrayal of the war was inaccurate and it made a lot of money? >> look, it doesn't have to be a document ri, but, i think, you know, the fact that they left out the part that we invaded the wrong country. i think that was an important plot element. >> a tiny little omission? yeah. look, obviously, it completely changes the entire complexion of the story if you leave out the context of the mission. that's all i was wanting to say. i didn't want to disparage veterans or the military but i
felt like it left out important historical detail. >> larry: i know exactly what you're talking about but to me it made me feel that okay that's what made that guy go. nick did you think it's hard for us to be able to relate to veterans and people who are actually in war? >> i don't think anybody will ever be able to relate unless you have been there and seen your best friend get shot in the face. i don't think you can relate to that. you can't put that on camera or film and i've seen it quite often. >> larry: you're a sniper. mm-hmm. >> larry: you have the most unrelatable -- sniper president, late night talk show host -- (laughter) -- those are the most unrelatable things. why do you think it is so unrelatable? >> our skill set, our job is hard to put in words. we're sent out there to kill people. that's our sole purpose in life. >> larry: man! no but when you say that --
>> it's heavy. >> larry: it is heavy, right? i don't look at the aspect behind it as far as, you know i'm going to kill this guy. he's nothing but a target at that point and if i can prevent one of my friends from dying right i'm going to put one through you. >> larry: is it looking at how this has made, in a sense? as a movie goer, do you not care about being able to relate? >> i thought it was cool to show what it was like to come home from war. the female lead in it was kind of one dimensional. it was the same thing over and over again. like, don't go to war! don't go to war! don't go to war!
i'm, like, this is the best shooter in the world! he's got to go to war! she's like a broken record. >> larry: yeah, i thought phil was supposed to direct the movie and it would have been different. >> but it's clint eastwood film a black and white view of the world, chris kyle's view of the war was george bush's and it's not mine and not everyone else's -- >> you like that perspective. i like that perspective to be told because it's part of the larger story. if it gets millions of people to understand what we've gone through, we'll take it. >> larry: nick, how much of an issue -- go ahead if you want to clap. (applause) >> thank you. >> larry: how much of an issue is the ptsd part of it? >> i think it's a big issue. my last deployment, in four months, i killed 33 guys as a sniper. >> larry: 33. yeah. the bodies didn't matter i'm
not -- >> larry: you're not assessing any threats now? >> no, i'm a nice guy. (laughter) i don't have any regrets about killing anyone. i regret not being able to save the guy who saved my life. >> larry: that's what they say in the movie. >> benjamin was 21 years old, saved my life and i watched him take one five minutes later. >> larry: do you have to compartmentalize that? i was taken by how if you don't compartmentalize that you will be (bleep) on a much faster road. because part of you has to be messed up anyway -- not saying you're missed up -- but you have to be kind of a dick. >> no, no, when i got out, the ptsd thing was real and was there. i would wake up at 6:00 a.m. and
drink till 4:00 p.m. i don't remember drinking water for two years, just alcohol, to try to forget. >> larry: matt, do you think these movies makes it harder or easier to know what they're going through? >> it helps. the movie certainly showed he had a struggle. it wasn't as overt as you would have thought, but i think it did definitely address some of that in the movie. >> the coming home part is very powerful. i had a lot of civilians say to me, now i can start towns what you went through. nobody ever asks us how many people we saved. it's not the complete story, buts a very complex thing that hollywood will never encapsulate. but we're here on a comedy show talking about the war again and veterans issues and we hope that discussion will continue. >> larry: do you think a different war would have made a
lot of difference? people have particular issues about this war. it's hard for us to compartmentalize sometimes. do you think that's a big problem? >> maybe. i think the reason why we went to iraq, i didn't care, i signed up in 2004. >> larry: why did you sign up? i saw the twin towers fall and a few lairts i was in afghanistan, so i deployed multiple times to each, three times to iraq, two times to afghanistan, something like that. (applause) >> larry: well, do you want to say one last thing? >> yeah, now that they're alapplauding, i just want wanted to also add -- no. (laughter) i think you guys do an amazing job. my father is pakistani, and i grew up with him in canada looking at the tv going, oh these (bleep). and my father in law served over
two decades. in getting to know him it's not a caricature the gun slingers versus the other people. the movie was a little bit like duck hunt but instead of ducks, it was iraqis. you know what i mean? >> yeah. i'm sure, being in the war you guys must have met tons of people that were nice that wanted peace. >> but you shouldn't get your full perspective on iraq in a two-hour movie. read a book. come hang out with us. we're not that bad. >> if you're drinking at 6:00 a.m., i will hang out with you. >> exactly. exactly. (applause) >> larry: we may not be able to agree in this movie but we can all agree drinking at 6:00 a.m. isn't always a bad thing. okay? we'll be right back with "keep it 100"! (cheers and applause) (applause)
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(cheers and applause) >> larry: all right! it's time for a segment we like to call "keep it 100"! for all you people who don't know what that expression means, it means "keep it 100% real." like "truth or dare," except here it's "truth or truth." so i'm gonna ask each of you a question, and in your answer, you have to keep it 100 percent real. and if you do, the audience will clap. and if not... well, we'll see. okay.
here we go. matt, you're going to be first. matt, which is more irresponsible, clint eastwood's approach to "american sniper" or rolling stone's pro-approach approach to the u.v. rape story? >> we got that story wrong. >> larry: that's pretty 100. nick, as a sniper, do you think lee harvey oswalt did it? >> i don't think he was by himself. (applause) >> larry: there's no way i'm arguing with a sniper. would you go to a shooting range with a vet with ptsd?
>> absolutely. (applause) would you come with me? >> larry: if you asked. okay. >> larry: sabrina, i think it's well known you're canadian and a lesbian. >> why are you outing me in front of all these people? >> larry: it's an epic combo platter. >> it really is. >> larry: imagine there are two terrorists. one is about to blow up a roomful of canadians and the other is about to blow up a roomful of lesbians -- >> whoo! >> larry: hold on! you're a sniper and you only have one bullet, which terrorist do you take out? >> oh, my goodness! >> larry: keep it 100. you know i'm still making money in canada, so i'm going to have to say i'm saving canada. >> larry: what? saving canada? >> i'm already married.
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each of our panelists has to answer one especially tough question, and i'm committed to doing the same. remember, i don't get a chance to see this question up till right now. okay. give me the question. tonight's question comes from @whitefoil. "if you knew it would guarantee massive success of your show would you do a tour in afghanistan as a soldier?" well, i would do a tour as a soldier whether or not it has to do with my show or not. there you go. i'm keeping it 100. (applause) tomorrow night, we'll be talking about vaccines. keep it 100. until then goodnight,
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