tv Tonight From Washington CSPAN January 18, 2011 8:00pm-11:00pm EST
>> thanks, robert. on the executive order and the president op-ed this morning, when you look at the timing of this, is the intent here at all to tap the widespread concern, as voiced by the tea party, the business community and republicans, about government intervention in government overreach? >> no, ben, two others this is something that the administration and elements of omb have been working on for quite some time. and i think it sets out what the president believes should be are very common sense approach, which is to ensure the health, safety, security and protection of the american people as well as understanding that we shouldn't do anything that unnecessarily limits our economic growth. that's been our approach. i think if you look at the history, look at things like the
rules around fuel mileage standards, i think you can make a pretty good case that the administration working with all the stakeholders to improve the situation to save us as is mentioned at think in the op-ed, billions of barrels of oil over the course of this lifetime of the soil, and ensure the health and safety of the welfare of the american people. >> let me look at it a different way which is, if msn spaces a call to the government to make sure regulations are striking that balance, then why have i taken two years -- >> no again, we have an approach since coming into office the venture is what we are doing makes common sense.
this is -- this is what the president wanted to do, to outline to put in writing our approach to ensure that we look back and make sure that the efforts were undertaken in efforts that had previously been undertaken from the federal government are done so in a way that makes sense. that protects again the health and safety of the american people and balances -- balances the import name for economic growth. look, i am sure is everything that happens in this town, they'll want to add a political label to this or that. the president believes that best defines a commonsense approach. >> does he think of that balance is happening right now? >> well again, that's -- understand that the op-ed we arrived in that there be a process where we look back at what is on the books and ensure
that there has been analysis as to the cost and benefit, given where we are. and the president believes that it's necessary and appropriate. >> i wanted to ask you one quick thing on health care. the storyline on the house's effort to repeal the health care law has pretty much from the start concluded that it's not going to go anywhere in the senate and therefore not become law. but i'm wondering, from the white house perspective, is very negative to the fact of the house is aiming to do this? does it impact the public or debate it in any way? >> well, on one hand, ben, i would share the belief of many including enunciated by those who are going to vote for an appeal tomorrow, this isn't a serious legislative effort. i think first and foremost they've largely acknowledged that. secondly, i mean, let's not
misunderstand though that let msn the move said, it says let's put insurance companies back in charge of making health care decisions. and with that, the option to deny health care coverage, drop health care coverage, limit health care coverage or health care coverage. let's understand the practical impact, as the congressional budget office said just a couple weeks ago, of the impact to the tune -- bless you -- of several billion dollars on our deficit in the short term and then over a 20 year period of time, a significant increase in the cost of the federal government. and understand the practical impact on what this means for seniors. it dramatically increases their out-of-pocket costs. no longer will they get the help they need or that they got through the affordable care at
with their prescription drug costs fully and that donut hole, falling in that sort of great area of not getting any help until they spend a certain amount of money. having to pay out of pocket now for preventive health care costs, a right that is no guarantee for for in the legislation. so, i don't think it's going anywhere. i do think it's an important symbol to the american people about what who's some people think should be in charge of making health care decisions. families are patients or doctors, but let's put health insurance companies back in charge, giving them the ability can to drop, deny, limit or cap your health care coverage. and i would point, as i'm sure many of you have read the article today, the notion that almost 130 million americans have, according to the department of health and human services, some medical condition that would either trigger a loss
of health insurance coverage or an increase in the amount of money you pay to get that covered. that has real impact on the american people. not. >> a couple questions on the chinese comment. present at =tranfour and responses to questions in the newspapers this week and suggested he was resisted u.s. pressure device to let their current rise as a way of tackling inflation. how confident is the administration that they look at some positive movement from the chinese on the currency issue? and dashed >> ltd. peppers. first and foremost, i think this is a relationship that has, as you heard secretary geithner and national security adviser tom donilon talk about last week that it has certainly generate positive economic benefits for the american people to the tune
of $100 billion, soon to pass more than $100 billion in goods and services to china this year. at the same time, we believe more must be done in terms of their currency. obviously, with inflation and there are some impacts on the real value of the currency. they have made some -- they've taken some limited steps despite the answers to revalue their currency. our police as he heard secretary geithner say in here saturday, we believe more must be done. that is an opinion that is felt not just by this country, but many countries around the world. >> okay, also a glut of big corporate deals are expected to come from the summit. a large boeing aircraft order is one of one that is where they talked about is a possibility. i expected one to come down the pike on that quite
>> i would direct you to what tom said on friday. this is -- there's a little different than our trip to india in the sense that as i said the economic relationship we have with the chinese is -- is different on a scale with what we do with india, which is why some of the commercial diplomacy around the india trip is so significant. so look, obviously we are -- we continue to believe that american companies produce the best products in the world and that they have a demand from china. i have not been told of any big deals that will be rolled out tomorrow, but i'm certainly all years if anything happens. >> is there some concern in the
u.s. aircraft industry that some deals, including specifically the boeing order, might be held of type little friction, baby held hostage by political considerations of other areas.if progress is not made in areas in the talks. is there any truth to that? >> from our side client >> know, from the chinese side. >> we have a relationship that is at the yield substantial benefit. at the same time we have some direct and difficult challenges. some of those will be discussed. most of those will be discussed tomorrow. he heard again the secretary geithner discuss the steps as you have for many months on currency that needs to take place. but while the chinese has to play in the while the chinese ho play in the region of the world in dealing with countries like north korea, just as they have been helpful in dealing with sanctions and the u.n. on previous actions of north korea as well as sanctions around the islamic republic of iran. so there's a whole host of
issues and topics that we anticipate that the two leaders will discuss tomorrow before meeting with you guys. jake. >> the administration and the president have talked quite a bit about pressing china on its human rights record and secretary clinton in advance of this trip also said that would be a major topic of conversation. has there been any success in getting them to move on any human rights issues? >> lolo, obviously there is -- that is a topic of some significant that the two leaders will talk about. president obama was -- put out a very forward leaning statement upon the awarding of the nobel peace prize with liu xiaobo that he should be free, the certainly should be free to go to oslo and expected price. these well -- we will continue to have difficult conversations,
jake, but necessary conversations that had to be had -- had to be had with china and will do that again tomorrow. >> no actual tangible evidence of success yet? >> well again, i think the is -- this is a long road, and whether we're dealing with economic discussions, whether we're dealing with those in the security realm, or whether we are dealing with those in human rights, i think this is an argument that we have and will continue to make to the chinese people and push them to do better. >> you said earlier that the efforts to repeal health care in the house is not as serious as legislative effort. do you mean that just because a campus the senate and the president should veto it? >> i just don't think it's going anywhere. and again, i'm quoting some of those many members -- the members of the house is that this is a serious thing.
>> is a "washington post" poll i'm sure you've seen that as nice as for the president, but also in the poll is the fact that the president and republicans are tied on who you trust to handle health care. for the first time ever the president has gone on that point republicans have gone up four points. so whether or not to repeal a third actually actually has any hope of actually becoming law, which is not currently, their public relations, they are talking about this issue and has been good for their cause. >> except for this, jake, i think you should be clear that question does not measure repealed. when asked specifically and other public polls we've seen repeatedly and recently about repeal, there is a significant number of people and some of them i presume are republicans i do not want to give up the very benefit today outlined a minute ago, but want to see -- maybe they want to see something that's worked on improved. that certainly is not measured in a question where you pick a or b.
so i think if you break some of that question now, you see that the notion that there is some vast widespread support for doing away with the affordable care at, assuming the deficit, putting insurance companies back in charge, there are a whole host of things that even republicans don't find suitable or tenable about the effort. >> i'm not talking -- i'm not talking about that specifically as much as i'm talking about the fact republicans seem to be gaining ground with the public support on the issue of health care. i mean it's losing ground. not much is much is simply a health care, but moving forward on the health care issue. >> again, i think the question doesn't measure the breadth of opinion certainly been around the health care issue. >> wesley, two guys have any response to "baby doc" duvalier arriving in haiti?
>> obviously, this is an important and crucial time for the people of haiti and we would -- >> haitian officials took him into custody. >> thank you. i would mention that any political leader or any formal political leader should focus not on him or herself, but don making progress toward a set of important elections and dedicate their time in their energy to the reconstruction of the country. thank you. >> on the human rights question, robert, does china have to make significant steps in addressing that issue before this relationship with the u.s. can really progress in a significant way? >> while dan, again, i think they're probably -- again if it into further his talk about as you heard geithner and tom donilon talk about this week, there is a series of baskets i
think is tom calls them were themes on issues that will be part of the discussion here tomorrow. human rights is certainly an important aspect to that. the economic relationship we have been in the security of that region of the world and of the entire world are important in the role that the chinese must play as rollback tours. so i think it is -- if they began there a whole host of issues that will be on tomorrow's docket at the two leaders will look at. >> will add more weight to human rights issue? there are deeply important quite >> there are a whole host of important issues that will be discussed and we hope will be ultimately address. >> you talked about this process of looking back.
can you explain a little bit more about how this process will work in your timetable. >> we will look at what the timetable might be, but again, this is simply for the relevant agencies to go back and ensure that the regulations that are currently on their books, again, go three process that measures the costs and benefits and insurance again it inked a very commonsense idea that we must protect the health and safety of the american people without impeding our economic growth, something i think we can get a large number of people in this country to agree on. >> and improving business relationship with the business community did not plan to disavow? >> this is something wrong in the works. >> thanks, robert. secretaries gates, clinton and geithner all its speeches which is sometimes described as kind of a shot across the bow before
hand was severely tough talk. how tough is the president going to be, compared to previous meetings with hu on issues like current dn given right to north korea and iran? >> look, i think all of those are cheaper on the docket. all of those are issues that have been brought up with president transform the past and will continue to do so. >> the more confrontational style? will he push harder? >> i think it's pretty safe to assume some of those issues are not issues that china wishes to speak about, and the president brings up -- because they are important to our standard in the world in our relationship with the chinese. and expect him to be changed do so. >> again, we have a cooperative but a competitive relationship with china. and as in many bilateral
relationships, we see the benefits of that and we understand the difficult challenges that lay ahead. you mentioned iran and north korea and the security basket. currency is an important -- i'd say current date, and trade and economic basket, and the very important issue and we'll issue of human rights. >> let me put it to this way. with the president continue what he's been doing this previous meetings with hu or will he ratchet up the pressure this time? >> i think i have an opportunity, one, to tax the two leaders tomorrow, and i think the president will be firm and outlining the important believes that this administration and this country. >> president hu's, the end of his term is on the horizon, and pair that the fact that there are a lot of reports out there
that he simply doesn't have the power that previous leaders that china had, that it's a bit more diffuse. does that change of the united states deals with china and the president deals with the president? >> let me not speculate on them. i think that -- you know, i think this is the eighth meeting between these two. we believe, again, this is an important venue in form with which to raise some of the concerns that you talked about earlier. and i don't -- i have not heard voiced concern that we are not meeting with the right person. wendell. >> is the fact that the president is last year's nobel peace prize winner gave additional qualms about hosting this year's east prizewinner present? >> i think it might if we hadn't spoken out so forcefully about that. but it doesn't because again his
his -- our response both on the day of the awarding of the day of the ceremony were to call directly for the chinese to release the award recipient said they could rightfully claim that prize. and i have no doubt that that will be a call renewed again tomorrow. >> on a different matter, republicans have made clear they want commitments to cut spending in addition -- in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. some are calling for not raising the debt ceiling above. but as the president willing to go -- go there basically to make them it's because spending in exchange for raising the debt ceiling? >> well, the president is happy to have a very serious conversation with all those involved, about the past to get us -- about the path we must take to get us back to some semblance of fiscal responsibility.
this, wendell, didn't start either this year or two years ago. we didn't get the situation -- we didn't get in this situation are short-term. we got into this situation over a series of many years. so i think of the series proposals, as you have in the past, where we froze nonsecurity discretionary spending. ill c-series proposals in the budget to do that. i also think that we have to balance that against important investment you need to be made and ensure that we don't see trichotomy and cut in things like -- particularly in innovation and education in innovation and education. >> and finally, a series of attacks at the state department, in a not in against christians
in iraq, egypt and nigeria recently, has the president been briefed on this? >> look, i have not heard an overarching theory. again, i'd point to a state has been a number of occasions responded to this. and obviously this is a sense that this happened, the president has -- is aware of, and i know both estate and that nsc they are closely monitoring that. chuck. >> why give the platform at the state dinner to the head of the country whose human rights violation, you know, whose human rights record is one that is a country we constantly criticize, we constantly -- and it's one thing to have a bilateral relationship, i get back, but was there any pause inside this white house about giving to the state dinner platform click >> no, look, i'll say this again. i think -- and the president had an occasion to meet with late
last week. again, those that express as he does reservations about their human rights record. again, i think the notion of not being -- look, i guess you could take a couple different tacks. you could either not bring it up or not put yourself in a form that allows you to discuss them directly with those that are making those decisions in the president believes that the latter, having the ability to speak directly with them, is important. >> but the symbolism of the state dinner sort of -- i guess how can you tell the folks that really are upset about china's human rights, record that somehow giving them the symbolic state dinner almost gives them a little bit of -- it's like well, we bring it up, we do this. you could do that with the same type of meeting.
you know what the chinese prison without given in the state dinner platform. >> the truth is, chat, we have not been on many occasions. we the state dinner in china. it was brought up before that. we've had bilateral meetings and economic summits like g8 20 words been proud of. i think the president believes is it is important to speak out as he's done and it's important to bring up directly with them. >> is he going to bring up the state dinner? >> now, i think the president will bring it up inside the oval office and then send the cabinet room with the extend bilateral. that has been produced on an every other occasion in which he's met with either president hu, premier wen or others in the chinese government. >> and i want to follow up on chips questions because we've asked this question before you
guys have no answer to pakistan, which is so who is in charge question, right? while it's a whole of government. how would you describe the power, when you're asked, when you're given a briefing, when you ask when you get a briefing, how is the power structure of china describe to you and could you share that with us? >> well, again i would refer you to the answer that i gave chip. i think we're meeting with the right group of people. i think it's important to understand that she may have causes of concerns that you take up with a broad array of people. i think president hu clearly is -- were meeting with the right person. >> has the president spoken with senator conrad? did he get a headset that senator conrad was going to not run again? >> i got an e-mail on it and several us were in on it. i do not believe he has had an occasion to speak with senator conrad yet. i'll doublecheck on that and see
if that is changed. jonathan. >> going back to the regulatory initiative, the health care reform law, the wall street reform law, including the law to give regulatory power to the fda over tobacco, are all very recent. are they going to be part of the review on cost-benefit analysis? and perhaps more importantly, are they going to be part of this new effort to try to see how small business can be either exempted or given basically cut more slack for the new -- under this new regulatory regime? >> will again, let me -- i think that the op-ed outlines areas that the president has direct agencies to look at, either going backwards or going forward, either will center on the books were proposed rules. so obviously, some of that --
jonathan, what hinges on your question is whether those rules are in existence or if they're being promulgated that the idea of cost and benefit analysis in a way that ensures that common sense -- that common sense rule that i outlined is important. i would point out that small businesses get, for those that will offer health insurance to their workers, a healthy tax cut. and i think that would certainly show up in any analysis that's done of anything going forward. >> a lot of these rules, especially in the wall street bell, latter being promulgated and they really will be critical to have this legislation actually comes out. is the president asking the regulatory agency to rethink of the way they proceed -- these are signature issues. >> no, the president is demanding, not asking, that as
we set forth rules that implement legislation that we take into account again the common sense notion of balancing the safety and security in the help of the american people with whether or not that makes sense or drags on our economic growth. but again, that is -- that's what the president expect this to be doing. that's what the president expects as we move forward with any rules. to these make differences? i would say, jonathan, i think you can point to financial reform is secure for a massive, massive regulatory failure. i have no doubt that the cost-benefit analysis of what we have gone through and continue to go through over the past two years is one that would find
both health care reform and particularly financial reform on the positive side. >> robert, is there any final agenda for tonight's dinner? >> i do not have one. again, i think you understand the topics that i think the president believes, as the ascent of with other leaders throughout the world that this provides a bit of an informal setting in which to have some of these discussions. the president will be joined by secretary of state clinton and national security adviser tom donilon and obviously an array of interpreters. ..
and you know, we talk about trade as we talk about intellectual property rights, as we talk about currency. all of those are things that this admin is grecian, along with american business want to see progress on in china. and that would will be discussed between ceos from both countries as well as the two presidents. >> is the sort of a breakdown of barriers meeting? >> i think is the important commercial relationships that are ceos have and want to expand in china that the president believes it's important to make a forceful case in front of both the ceos from china as well as president hu. >> quality of that be open, or will there be a readout? ..
not part of the review team, raj. i have no doubt that review will find regulations that lack and do not fulfil the task without we have outlined. the one in the op-ed you can put sacrum in your coffee and the epa asks you to treat it as a dangerous chemical. the drop to the last month, which as you know, the president said if you can put it in your coffee you shouldn't handle that is a dangerous chemicals of the question is whether or not regulations -- been a very common sense test. >> the groups that are skeptical of this say the amount of money spent on the hazardous waste background is negligible and if that is the best exhibit for you can come up with they say it shows regulation isn't byrd in
-- burdensome. >> the president is issuing an executive order in the department review of all those regulations. that is the important test here. i think -- i think what's important most of all is that, again, we need a very important common sense test which balances the very important need for health, safety and security of the american people, and we understand look, go back 20, 30 years, go back to the late 1960's when the rivers were on fire, when there were very few rules that didn't allow but in the tens of the types of
pollution that cause asthma or threaten the health of the american people. we aren't going to go back to that. there's a reason why those are in place. but let's go review and ensure that as we are protecting that health we are not sacrificing a necessarily economic growth. but at the same time let's not -- let's not forget the important reason why a number of those regulations are likely in place and that is to protect the well-being of the american people. >> public health and safety advocates say unless you're giving more money to these agencies asking them to go back and review the regulation is taking resources away from mine inspectors, oil rig inspectors, the people who are keeping america safe. >> i don't see why that would be true. spec is a limited policy and they are saying with the amount of money you had before that you weren't being asked to do before. >> that would by definition indicate a burdensome regulation. if a significant portion -- if a
significant portion of your money is to go to modeling as to what you were doing 20 years ago or ten years ago, five years ago, two years ago, one year ago takes away from your ability to do that, my guess is that is a pretty darn good place to start. so i don't know if that was an overly simplistic example that was meant in order to elicit a response that didn't have anybody go back and look at what they were saying, but i just don't -- i don't see how that would normally or logically meet the test of what the president is asking people to do. >> there is a reception for new members of congress on monday the president will attend. can you talk about what the intention of that is, what you hope to achieve through that? >> obviously there are a host of new members and the president -- simply to have an occasion to get to meet them, to have them come here, come to the white house, i think all are in a larger effort to hopefully understand not what divides us but what brings us together.
and i think the president and the team here look forward to that reception and to meeting new members and finding, again, ways in which we can work together to make progress for the american people. >> back on the state dinner, the president has used state dinners in different ways, president bush like to reserve them for three close allies and celebrate strong ties. i wonder if you can talk about president obama's approach to this particular state dinner and what its reasons are for wanting to honor president hu and also if you could just address speaker boehner's decline of the invitation. >> welcome on the latter one, i would -- i don't know what the response was in declining the invitation.
we have invited previous state dinners invited leaders from both parties, and we hope because of the importance of the relationship that they would attend -- i don't know why he declined on this occasion. i don't have the list in front of me on who's coming. on the first part, this is my third state dinner. and i think that two of those three have -- in india and now china -- have been in, as you heard tom talked about last week, the fastest-growing region of the world, and one that -- india in july is a very personal relationship with the united states and has through the administrations of president clinton, president bush and now
president obama; all taking important steps in visiting that country. >> obviously, whether it is the secretary of state's first trip to -- in her tenure to asia, our visits back and forth to china, korea, japan, indonesia, other countries in that region, this is a -- again, this is a dynamic region of the world, one that has grown faster than any other and one that needs to have the full engagement of the united states of america. that hasn't always been the case in this region of the world, and
given its growth in its dynamism, that is something that our country can't afford. we would, you know, we have been able to again and sanctions against north korea or sanctions against iran place the toughest sanctions on those to respective countries because of our ability to bring a diverse set of countries on the security council to an understanding of the importance of those sanctions, and we want to build on the cooperative part of the relationship with china and deal directly with some of those very difficult challenges. islamic the last time president bayh his arrival ceremony was interrupted on both. i'm wondering are there any extra precautions being taken to prevent --
>> obviously i think if memory serves i think that was because the newspaper representing them was at the arrival ceremony. obviously we want -- we want to ensure that we have the arrival ceremony that's important, devotee to be respectful, but at the same time the president again will bring directly up with president hu and his interactions his direct concerns on the issues of human rights. >> the other question was just was it incumbent or did the president feel it was incumbent upon him to have the state dinner because the chinese gave him a steak dinner? did he have to reciprocate? >> no, i think this had more to
do with -- with what i outlined in the beginning, which is the important -- the important place that asia and this region of the world represent an -- as a growing part of our important foreign policy. yes, sir. >> robert, last week the justice department filed a brief with the first circuit court of appeals defending the defense of marriage act against to lawsuits. president obama has called his law discriminatory and said it should be repealed. but that seems unlikely anytime soon now because given the current makeup of congress. is there any consideration in the administration to dropping the defense of doma in quarter and declaring the law unconstitutional? >> well, we can't declare the law we unconstitutional. but i'm just trying to make sure i understood that portion of the question directly. obviously i think -- if you look at what was written, i think the
president in the rates -- the administration enumerate in their belief of law as we balance the obligation that we have to the present federal government. the president believes, as you said, that this is a law that should not exist and should be repealed. but weak -- at the same time have to represent the viewpoint of the defendant. >> do you see legislative repeal of doma happening during the course of the obama administration? >> well, i think as the president said, that is -- given the current makeup of the congress, that is in our monthly challenging. and i think he said so in interviews. >> one last question. any regret for not pushing for doma repealed more forcefully when democrats had control of both chambers of congress?
>> look, i think we are enormously proud of and grateful for the progress that we have been able to make. dormouse "don't ask, don't tell" was an achievement of -- i think what we thought of as an achievement not just for the administration but for all those involved; a monumental achievement in bringing equality and justice back. and so -- i don't think -- obviously we didn't get everything we wanted to get done done, but we're proud of what we did get done. yes, ma'am. >> i have a question following up on the schedule for thursday where president hu is going to meet with senate and house leaders. there are a couple of senators including senator schumer and debbie wasserman schultz who are proposing that they pass a bill that is supposed to reprimand china for currency inflation. does the white house have a position on that? do you guys support that?
is there any coordination between you and the senate leaders as they go -- >> welcome again, i would point you to those individuals for some discussion on their legislation. i think -- has it relates to currency, i think you've heard secretary geithner's and other south line that while they've taken some limited steps that more has to be done. and that's the message that the president will bring to his meetings. >> is the president support of the legislative effort by these senators who are members of the democratic leadership? >> again, i don't -- i think the message the president will bring to his meetings with president hu is exactly what others have outlined. yes, sir. >> thank you, robert. two brief questions. first, to follow-up on jacob's question regarding for president duvalier's return to haiti.
you said that any former leader coming back should concentrate on human rights and rebuilding in haiti; correct? does that policy also apply to the former haitian president, jean bertrand aristide? >> again, i can clear in a period of obviously some uncertainty in haiti. current or former political lectors and their supporters should be focused on not what is best for them, but what is best for the people of haiti. and that goes for -- that goes for anybody, either, as i said, in power or formerly in power -- that, first and foremost, we should be thinking about peace, we should be thinking about prosperity, and we should be thinking about what's in the best interest of the people of haiti as they continue to deal with, more than a year later, the impacts of a devastating earthquake. >> so you have no problem -- the administration has no problem with duvalier or aristide
returning if they meet that criteria? >> it's not for me to define who travels there on vacation passport. again, it is our strong belief that the test is not the focus on themselves, but a focus on the haitian people, particularly in a time of uncertainty as we point toward an election. >> my other question is regarding one of the president's recess appointments, that of william boarman, a former official of the communications workers of america, as a public printer. now, his appointment came a few months after the president named a former top official of the service employees international union to the nlrb. does the president consult with some of the presidents of major leader unions before he makes appointments? >> sure.
>> robert -- >> thank you, robert. >> i'm sorry, can you clarify the haitian thing one more time? i'm confused. do you support the government's decision to bring him into custody or not? or does the u.s. -- >> i have not -- >> that's where i was confused. i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt. >> obviously for somebody to come into the country of haiti requires a password deily to -- passport to the country if he come and i'm not going to get into that. and i'm not plan to get into a particular diplomatic development that have happened while i'm standing up here. mine was a broad answer to whether it is duvalier or anybody else -- again, whether in power or out, coming into the country in a time of uncertainty, it is important that we focus on peace and we focus on the people of haiti. estimate is the american government's position stand behind the haitian government on what -- on how it conducts its business?
>> i'm sure the haitian government has not asked us or -- we are not on a checklist on what they decide to do in terms of arresting people. and, again, this happened weigel i was out here. i have not had a long discussion since i've been out here, as you can understand, with the national security council the developments that have happened while live out here -- while i'm out here. >> could you get a statement before the end of the day if it's possible? >> i will see if there's anything to add. >> thank you, robert. according to yesterday's's new poll, 53% of chinese think u.s.-china relations are actually getting worse. so how will this state is it promote a better relationship between u.s. and china? >> i think some of that may be somewhat dependent on what i just discussed in terms of their art -- there is cooperation between these countries on different aspects of bilateral
and multilateral relationships; there are challenges. there are benefits and there are things that must be worked through. so i know that in order to make progress on certain issues, you've seen the two countries work together, despite, again, continuing to have differences on things like continued economic growth and human rights. and i think that's what you will see the president -- the two presidents discussed tomorrow. >> and will there be any joint statement after the statement? >> just a press conference, and will be coverage of the oval meeting, there will be a coverage of the ceos and there will be coverage obviously -- well, obviously the arrival, some sort of -- obviously there's some water balancing concerns that we are working for for tomorrows staff the rival -- but obviously the press conference and the questions tomorrow. >> following up on that in terms
of a joint statement, shouldn't we expect some form of the deliverable is from the united states out of this visit, given that the chinese are getting the whole formatted yet the state dinner and the optics the desire? i know tom donilon sorted steered away from expecting that on friday, but if you were looking at the baskets, would you say -- >> i would steer you back to what tom said. that's what i would -- >> -- say that there is any prospect of announcements of positive developments in many of those baskets and would one be more likely than other? >> i think we are hoping for, and i think the president will outline -- president obama will for president hu -- the steps that we believe need to be taken. whether or not this happen on a deliverable schedule -- we have a relationship with countries
that isn't simply marked by a visit and a series of deliverable. our relationship is one, as you heard secretary geithner and the national security adviser donilon out line, that for fast and that are broad and that require constant engagement, which this administration will be focused on. >> thanks, robert. i have three quick questions. first, i noticed in the presidents of he talks about beebee formula regulations and saccharin, but there's nothing about the guns, specifically the ban on high-capacity magazines. does the president support that? >> i don't think that is addressed in the rules and regulations system. -- rules and regulatory system.
as i said last week, i'm sure there will be many proposals made out of the events of last week and we will certainly examine and a look at what those proposals are but i don't have anything additional on that. >> recently the president said that the personal view on same-sex marriages evolving. i wonder if he's reached any new personal opinion on that, is that something we might hear about in the state of the union? >> i'm not aware that there is any change on that coming into the state of the union at this point. i would say what he told jake is very similar to what he told a group i think in october that asked a similar question. stomaches it possible that he might bring up doma during the state of the union? >> i have not finished going through the first draft. >> people were asking what happened to your message --
>> i apparently have the skin of a 15 year old today. [laughter] >> cut yourself shaving? >> you know, you last and why not? i have a cut on my foot, too. i think i'm michael yell are. go ahead. >> on the seed of the union next tuesday, how recent was the success of this visit to the heart of the state and the union address, dealing with international relations etc? >> well, look, again, i think we -- this is an important relationship. we have important relationships all over the world, but obviously this is one that comprises economic security, human rights, all of which are important to the american people and all of which are important to this president. but look, there are issues that the president will bring up, and the progress that the president continues to hope to see as we move forward. it is -- as i was telling
congressman for 31 years, been to china for many trips and chaired 27 hearings on human rights abuse by the peoples republic of china over these many years. today we're here with the bravest, best, and brightest human rights and prisoners of the chinese government and calling on president obama to raise human rights issues publicly and visitly during president hu's visit to washington, d.c.. he gave proof to the moral fear when he left the peace prize committee no choice but to place the peace prize on an empty chair and empty because he wouldn't let a him out of his prison cell to receive the prize. he even had hu's wife and
friends under house arrest for fear they would come to accept the prize. in a country like china, it is inconceivable that the media campaign against him and his supporters proves who is at top. president obama is the nobel peace prize laureate. we have to call for his release during his visit. leading a group of members nominating him for the prize, i was present in the hall where the empty chair ceremony along with speaker pelosi and congressman david wu and everybody here ready to speak. there is a strong bond between peace laureates, and i've had the privilege of meeting many of them. they share an obligation of the best prize of the world and they
can meet with and throw a white house state dinner and not demand publicly for their release is something unthinkable. i hope in the next few days president obama lives up to the award he received in 2009. beyond this, we urge president obama to gin us in speaking out for all those in china who basic human rights are violated and violated with impunity for political prisoners who we recently was tortured in the last year and others under house arrest after serving years in prison after drawing the attention of the media during° the forced abortion. others tortured, many killed, buddhists, for the weaker muslims, christians, and
underground churches, many are rounded up. right before the olympics, we tried to meet with house church pastors. virtually all of them were arrested and interrogated. one made it through, and later was caught and beaten as well. i want to mention the women. one child per couple policy with forced abortions is in scope and in seriousness the worst gender crime and human rights abuse. few understand what a cruel system of social control the one child policy entails. as the commission summarized last year, we're talking about massive propaganda, mandatory contraception, mandatory birth
permits, fines for failure to comply and storessed sterilization and abortions. the price is staggering. a woman in china knows that ten times her and her husband salary could be taken by the government. sometimes it's less. if they had a child not approved by the government. we know that brothers and sisters are now illegal in china, a terrible, terrible thing, and yet the president of china overseas this terrible barbaric one child policy. it's in my statement, and i hope you reed it. a woman who testified last year at the tom lantos commission told her story of how she was brought into a clinic with other women. she said it was like a lam going to slaughter. her baby was ripped to threads. she said it was a journey to
hell. her story is every woman's story there. women commit suicide in china because of this one child policy. i commend you the rest of my statement that is lengthy in detail, but i want to bring to you some of these wonderful people. is frank wolff here yet? okay. i want to start off with the wife of the great human rights leader whom the government has tortured and caused to disappear. her own escape from china, a 2,000 trek because her own children were threatened by the chinese authorities is an amazing story in and of itself, and she will speak on behalf of her husband. >> can we take a second to fix the microphones? [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]
[inaudible conversations] >> translator: i want to first thank congressman smith, and i thank everybody. [speaking chinese] >> translator: i remember during the father's day speech, mr. obama said something like this. his courageous mother and grandmother raised him and gave him love and disciplines and
made him who he is today, but he still can remember the regret and the void he had when he was a child without a father, so he actually and this void is no government or not any individual can feel. [speaking chinese] >> translator: today, i want to tell president obama that my daughter and my son truly understand what you meant. by 17-year-old daughter and my 7-year-old son, they have been missing their father very much.
it has been so painful for them, and maybe when you missing your father you know where he is, but my children don't know where their father is right now. maybe he's no longer alive, or maybe he's been tortured by many people right now in rural china. [speaking chinese] >> translator: how many times because we don't know where he is we've been crying at night? how many times because we thought about the torture he's maybe experiencing and has experienced with pain and heart broken and how many times we hug together and cry and cry. [speaking in chinese] [speaking
in chinese] >> translator: my family's backbone and that's the most important part of our family and ever since my daughter was a 13-year-old, she had been living and being an insult of the chinese party. she's a very proud and very strong girl, and the torture and she can tolerate and endure, but those chinese policemen, those policemen insult her in front of her classmates and in the public
that make her almost collapse, but at that time her father can talk to her and can comfort her after he has been tortured himself, but he took time to comfort her. that make her feel a lot better, but after her father left her, then she's hard to control of her own emotion. she actually became hospitalized during christmas time in 2009, and my 7-year-old son also missed father very much, and he cries all the time. [speaking chinese]
[speaking chinese] mr. obama, if you still remember the pain when you missed your father and i hope that you can use all you can and to urge to ask mr. hu to release gao and release him and let him come to the united states and unit with our family. today in china, the chinese people are prosecuted by the chinese communist party. for example, the writer le was persecuted to death 13 days ago and wrote articles to support my husband and there's many people like him and people's stories full of the prrgs and torture.
this kind of result because this brutal regime, so many families are broken and there's so much human rights violated. [speaking chinese] >> translator: u.s. is composed by a lot of people of our faith. i hope that god can help us bring my husband home and to make and have our family in reunion and have my daughter and my son be comforted. thank you very much. >> thank you for that very moving statement. one of the points underscored by her statement is that the
families of not just the disdent themselves are severely punished and her daughter almost committed suicide because the pressure was so great. we'll now here from a former chinese prisoner who served as a representative to the regions nobel committee. he's spoken out on behalf of human rights of china having paid for his own loss of freedom when in prison. >> he's not here yet. >> he hasn't arrived yet, okay. we are joined by congressman frank wolff. congressman wolff and author of the freedom act and china has been on that list for six years straight as a country of particular concern because of its huge persecution of owl
re-- all religions and belief. >> thank you very much. before i begin, i want to thank congressman smith for having this press conference and a voice in this town, and i'm just so pleased that mr. smith is chairman of the committee now of human rights and religious freedom around the world. i want to thank all the people here at the press conference who really have something very powerful to say. they -- i wanted them to know how much i appreciate all of them and their courage and everything else. the combination of mr. smith and this group is very, very powerful. i'm honored to be here today with so many distinguished offenders of human rights in china. this evening, president obama
welcomes president hu to washington, d.c. with a private dinner at the white house and honors president hu with a state dinner. the chinese president has not received the honor of a state dinner in 13 years when president clinton hosted the president in october of 1997. they have done almost nothing in the past 13 years to deserve the honor of a white house state dinner. in fact, december 2009, the chinese government sentenced democracy activist to 11 years in prison due to his involvement in drafting charter 08, a historic manifesto demanding for democracy and greater human rights in china. it was recognized by the committee, and we want to thank the nobel committee for having the courage to go against the public grain with regard to china when they awarded him the
2010 nobel peace prize. however, an award ceremony was held with an empty chair, and i appreciate congressman smith and speaker pelosi going there to represent our government at their 2010 presentation where he was not able to receive it because he was not there. chinese authorities continue to crack down on protestant house church christians, on catholics. there's a large number of catholic bishops in jail or house arrest. they plundered tibet. it's almost a chinese city based on what they have done. how they treat the muslims and some are willing to speak out and arrested both of her sons and her daughter is on house
arrest. i call on president obama to reenforce the message during this meetings with president hu today and tomorrow and ensure that the administration words are followed by live actions, live actions here in washington, but also in beijing. last friday, 32 members of congress in a bipartisan letter to president obama echoing this same call for human rights and religious freedom quoting the people of china because the people of china are good people, they should know that the united states stands with them in this struggle for freedom and democracy. i urge president obama to raise the issues of human rights and religious freedom not just behind closed doors, but in the public statement. in fact, it was said and many other say when someone raised their case publicly, it made a tremendous difference. there's an obligation and requirement that not only be
said privately where nobody can hear us, but publicly so that word can see. again, i just want to thank mr. smith and his staff and all of these leaders for speaking out and being here. with that, i'll just listen to what they have to say. thank you, chairman. >> thank you. >> let me now invite to the podium a buddhist nun at the young age of 15. she received her first prison sentenced that was repeatedly extended as she continued to demonstrate in prison. she was released to the u.s. in 2002. from 1988 to 1990, president hu was the communist party boss in tebit. they were the most common depression of uprising and years of marshall law and troops
shooting into the law and horrific torture as a result of the harsh administration, president hu was promoted into the bureau and began his rise to the presidency. the crack down occurred three months before the mask. >> thank you for opportunity to participate in this press conference today. president hu is in washington, d.c.. i'm honored to be able to share my thought with members and staff of the united states congress.
i'm with human right leaders here today. my name is ngawang. i spent 11 years in a chinese prison for wanting freedom. i was first arrested when i was 13 years old for wanting a free tibet. i was arrested when again when i was 15 years and my three year sentences was increased to 23 years in total. in prison, from the first day, they routinely beat me with water hose and many other kind of weapons. kicking and slapping they didn't even count.
one day it looked like a telephone. it was an electric pot. he asked me, do you want to call your home? i replied my home didn't have telephone. he said, he went installed one. he put the object in my shorts and turned it on. my entire body shook in a way i couldn't control. i was only 13 years old. i endured beatings, torture, hunger, and solitary confinement. they tried everything to break my spirit. i now live in freedom in the unite, but every day i worry about thousands of tibets who are still suffering at this minute for doing nothing more than a peaceful protest. in recent years, we have witnessed protests for freedom
and call for peace. this is a clear span to the asian authority that they long for freedom, but the chiefs continue to crack down on tibet with force. i'm greatly concerned about the consequences they face as i know exactly what they face. he was the leader in tibet when the people suffered greatly including others. they continue to to treat tibet with a heavy hand. many have lost their lives, but they will continue to struggle until they achieve freedom. i wish no one in tibet or no one in this world to suffer the way
i did. therefore, i ask of you to have free those. in our own case, due to international pressure, i was finally released on october 17, 2002. i know from my own experience it is very hurtful when the free world put pressure on the chie knees government -- chinese government. therefore, i need your help now. i think for a peaceful world, everybody here has to live confidently to punish cruel governments like the chinese government. i have to ask president obama and the congress. number one, ask president hu to free all tibet prisoners who have only been peacefully
expressing their freedom of speech. number two, grant rights including liberty to the people who are guaranteed even by the chie these constitution -- chinese constitution. number three, ask china to respond for peacefully resolving the tibet issue with the negotiations. thank you. >> thank you. thank you very much. we'll now here from chi ling. she was one of the top students and most wanted by the chinese. she now the president of all girls allowed, a relatively new nongovernmental organization devoted to protecting chinese girls from the evil sex
selection abortions. disperty is chiewj in china. there's as many as 100 million missing girls n. prc directly attributable to the one child per couple policy. >> thank you congressman smith, and thank you for your live discussion and courage to fight on behalf of our people in china, on behalf of women and children. thank you for all being here to share a message. as we gather here today at the u.s. capitol, over 35,000 forced abortions are taking place in china today. every 2.5 seconds a precious baby's life is taken. among every six baby girls, one will not be born simply because she is a girl. 500 women will commit suicide from now until tomorrow noontime
noontime -- or tomorrow at 2:30. it's five times average world's rate for suicide. 3,000 baby girls today will be abandoned into corners and more than 200 children and women will be trafficked into slavery. this will happen tomorrow and the day after tomorrow. this has been going on for 30 years under this policy. as of today more than 400 million lives have been taken. this brutal and violent enforcement of the policy is the largest crime against humanity. it's inhuman slaughter against mothers and babies. it is a ma massacre taking
place. i could use some help -- [laughter] it's a massacre happening every hour. are you sure? thank you. it's our holocaust that's been going on for 30 years. in november 2009, it was her prayer with witnesses and congressman smith's appearance which has been doing for over 30 years as long as the history of this policy and this opened my eyes to the massive crime. my life was forever changed that day. now, i've devoted my life to end
this crime, help end the crime. i invite you all today to join me in my prayer. like today, let this week be the week that the world will also see this crime too. let today and this week to be the week that will retain their heart and their minds and join the force to help end this policy crime against humanity. in jesus name we pray, amen. yesterday, we celebrate the birthday and passions and dreams that led to a generation and road that restores life, value, and a dignity to all human races. today, we too have a dream. we dream a dream that will speak to our lives, value, and dignity to all children, not just the
only one, all genders, man and women, because we are all made in the image of god. may that happen in china and around the world. we dream a dream that tomorrow china's forced policy will become history. we dream a dream that children will grow up with brothers and sisters and uncles. we dream a dream that all tears will be wiped from the faces of the parents whose children were taken. we dream a dream that all young men will have brides and taste the sweetness of being newlywed. we dream a dream that all mothers will not mourn no more because they are with children. we dream a dream that oppressed will find freedom. we dream exiled will be returned home. we dream a dream that justice
will roll on like a river, right ness like a never ending dream. we dream a dream that god will bless the promised land of china and the world. we pray there's no more death, crying, or pain for the old order of things have passed away. we know these dreams will come true because god's word are trustworthy and is true. president obama, we also remember two of your famous words. before you were elected president of the united states, you mentioned when you had your first baby girl and how much your vision and dreams about your baby's future, how much you wanted to be a father because you never had a father, and president obama, speaking to you
as a president of this great nation, we speak to you as a great father with two beautiful children. just imagine, two beautiful children and you're only allowed to have one. the other one has to be put to death, and president obama, just imagine, two beautiful children, girls, they would not be allowed to live because only because they are girl. president obama, we also speak to you as a leader of this nation that your word, yes we can have inspired our generation for change. we employee secretary clinton's courage to reach human rights and to one of the issues for president hu's visit. president obama, secretary clinton, congressional leaders
of the united states, we encourage you today to all say yes, we can to the leaders of china, to end the forced abortions and a genderside. we know you can because your people have spoken. thousands of people in a past few months in america and around the world have signed a petition to you to ask you to help end the forced abortions and sterilizations. we're trying to deliver this petition to you in person with hope you'll grant us a meeting. we know you can because additional 300 more people, man and woman, mother, daughters, and grandmothers, have sent us pictures of their quest to all girls allowed to restore life, value, and dignity to girls and mothers and we also know you can
because our own work at all girls allowed that change is possible. inside china's area where girls and baby killings are where seven boys are born, three girls make it. it's 33% boys versus 100% girls. among those areas, 325 families are chosen to receive baby shower gifts to support the birth of the baby girls. the result, gender preferences in these villages is changing, and girls are now not only alawed, -- allowed, but welcomed, and we know you can because god is with us. last friday, a beautiful 3-year-old girl who was
trafficked on june 4 night last summer on the 21st anniversary of the massacre, she was kidnapped from her home while playing and with god's help and the people who loved god is now reunited with her family and able to say that daddy, i'm home. i want to show you a picture of her taking down her own missing child posting in her father's arm. we're blessed to have an awesome god who brings miracles like reunions, so we pray for president hu for him to visit this beautiful country, to experience the wonderful thing that god loves him too. we pray for him to have an open
mind and change of heart by the end of this week when he returns to china, and we know together we can bring god's love to china and around the world. thank you. >> thank you very much. now we're hear from bob hu, also a leader and later a political prisoner. he defends religious freedom. >> thank you congressman and thank you for all coming to share this moment. first of all, i commend the speech made by secretary clinton last friday to the state department.
after two years of violence in the public senior, obama and administration officials finally have spoken with names -- secondly, i think i would still disagree with her overall tone of the assessment of the u.s.-china relations. she's still said that china and the u.s. shared in the same boat will rise together, will fall together. a regime that imprisoned more
people of faith in the camps, in prisons in china should not be qualified to share in the same boat with a democracy because this totally disregard of the role, regulations, universal values of this boat. it's time to change course, but as long as he's still missing and brutally tortured for simply promoting human rights and rule of law, it's not appropriate to call that regime an equal partner in the same boat. mr. president, 150,000 people
from all over the world, from over 185 nations have spoken up to free him, to let him come to the united states, to reunit with his wife and two children. remember two years ago when i was in bangkok, tried to help this family to resettle and watching the scars of mr. gao's daughter that left by her suicide two attempts because she could not endure the suffering and listening to the torture stories of her dad. it's not too late to change the
course. before we repave what happened in 1930 #s in europe. i understand the economic, the security are all important issues, but a regime that would torture one of the most prominent chinese constitutional scholars is not worthy to be recognized as an equal partner in that boat. the human rights religious freedoms should be treated as important as the economic and other interests. as long as mr. gao is still
jailed, as long as others are still serving life in prison for simply being veterans of human rights and democracy, as long as the weaker christians are still serving 15 year sentences since 2009 for being an underground independent church christian, as long as those prisoners' fates like le hun who was tortured to death because of the human rights cause. the same boat idea will do more
harm to this country and to the world at large if we continue to carry out that policy according to that vision. i think this time to really change the course. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you, bob. i want to introduce the ethnic waiter, initial republic of congress speaking out in defense of the weaker people and now is the president of the world weaker congress. just as we mentioned how the chinese dictatorship routinely goes after the children, her children are in prison as we meet.
[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [speaking mandarin chinese] first of all, i would like to express my deep appreciation to congressman smith for holding this very important press conference in light of chinese president to washington. [speaking in mandarin chinese] because he has provided a voice for all the oppressed.
>> translator: in china's prisons, tens of thousands of people are being imprisoned, and my husband was imprisoned for 9 years, and i was imprisoned for nearly 6. [speaking mapped chinese] >> translator: one good example is mr. gao and his wife have just spoken about his disappearance and his imprisonment, and tens of thousands of people now have disappeared in chinese prison systems, law systems, and millions of people in china are just looking at the united states for hope so that the u.s. can do something about this.
[speaking in mandarin chinese] >> translator: just prior to the visit of president hu's visit to washington, 14th of january the chinese media record that 276 were tried and the chinese authorities were on national security. [speaking in mandarin chinese] >> translator: the chinese authorities put my children in prison, 7 and 9 years, in retaliation for my speaking up against chinese government massive human rights
violations. [speaking in mandarin chinese] >> translator: last november, the third, the chinese authorities transferred my son to another solitary confinement for further torture. i was also indirectly informed by the chinese authorities. [speaking in mandarin chinese] [speaking in mandarin chinese] >> translator: that association of not just of my children, but sons and daughters of millions of people are suffering under chinese rule, and president obama is not only the president of the united
states, but he is also the father of two beautiful daughters and i know that he understands our suffering, and i expect him to raise the suffering of all the imprisoned and urge the chinese prison to release especially sons of -- and daughters of parents. i also ask president obama to urge the chinese president to release all those who were imprisoned and who also disappeared in relation of the july 5th massacre of 2009. [speaking in mandarin chinese] >> translator: i also urge the chinese president to stop of prosecution of my family members
including by chirp, grandchildren, and all other relatives. [speaking in mandarin chinese] >> translator: in the past years, the chinese government was very careful in prosecuting the chinese people. [speaking in mandarin chinese] >> translator: however, in recent years, the chinese government have increased publicly and boldly disregard of any kind of international concern especially the prosecution of the minorityies and others. i would like --
so thank you very much. >> thank you very much. again, to emphasize, and i hope the press perhaps will do some stories on this. this not only repressing individual disdense, but also going after their families. the burden they carry and others of having their children incarcerated and abused is beyond words. i can't think of what that is like, but yet she continues to speak out boldly for all human rights. i want to introduce harry wu, dean of the human rights activists, and a man who spent 19 years in the labor camps, was abused horrificically, and is now with us today and continues to speak out boldly, harry wu.
>> i really don't know that i should talk about. i heard that chinese president and received reporter interview, but so far i heard in the interview he did not talk about human rights. are you sure this is not a problem? okay. he will take over here as a big delegation about the business. he really want to care about business, want to, you know, what america has to care about chinese business. whatever. many people talk about crowl. i have to remind you that 22% of the world population live in china, and they are not free to
give birth. if you before marriage and every time you make love, you have to care about pregnancy. they only allow you to have one child. how many people are aborted? how many houses destroyed. until today, we don't know. i just hope obama really care about this, okay? when you talk about business with china, it's fine, but how about human rights? today, china doesn't have religious freedom. simply catholic is illegal, roman catholic church is the biggest religious system of the world and is illegal inside china. you want to --
what you want to do? chinese have probably 200 or 250 ,000 policemen and they are internet police. they control the internet. well, thousands of prisoners are still in the labor camps. we call them holocaust. if any american wants to condemn and order prisoners whatever they in chinese prison camps, forced to labor, okay? i was there. i was working 12 to 12, 12 hours a day in the labor camp in a coal mine, okay?
second job so-called reform. you have to change your mind. and because the labor, i make the products in 1990s america customs, they investigate american enterprises and punish six companies in the court because they import products from america. they issue a long list in a customs service forfeiting the imports coming into china and 2,000 suppose they don't have it. we sure don't have it. yesterday, canadian tv station make announcement. a canadian company import chinese prison made products from the number two prison, and
the prison has 6,000 prisoners making a product exported to canada, total cause, 200,000, and we at this foundation pose like a company, contact the chinese prison camp, and they did sign a contract with us. we paid money and products came to the united states. whatever you want to do business, this is illegal by united states. now, let me take some additional stories. last december i was in aslow. i very grateful that chinese visitors win award, and there's pictures and president and ceo
of american enterprises cisco systems because cisco systems is a sponsor of the ceremony. how much money they donated to nobel peace prize? i don't know, but anyway, it's a big advertisement there. i was in bit of a shock. i remember in 2003 we had a press conference in the house and congressman frank wolf and the former congressman kris hawks participated in the congress and we need cisco system because kiss koa system ssh cisco system support security systems. they sale the products that have the knowledge and train the
chinese police how to set up the internationals. this is chinese national program so-called come to share project. in 2001 and 2002, china don't have the file war. now they have very good fire wall, and then i learned our website was named in the verdict. in court from 2002 to 2008 and six years he sent 268,000 articles to our website, and three of the articles was named as a crime and submitted to government. oh, i don't know, what is it? one support the ceremony. i love it. i like it. the other face is cisco support
chinese security. i just want to remind you when choosing. ibm a couple years ago said sorry, we sent the equipment to the government and they use it for holocaust. remind you of another thing. americans during the cold war they don't want to involve with soviet union because they call this an evil empire. we can want share our business, our interest, our money, our technology with soviet union, but what about today? china is communist regime. that's it. thank you. >> thank you, harry. our final speaker before we go to -- before we go to questions
will be reggie little john who is founder of human rights and frontiers who has been a true leader in bringing focus on the gendercide issue in china, and i'd like to now yield her. >> it's an honor to be a part of this panel, and i wanted to give my thanks especially to congressman christopher smith who has been tirelessli advocating and sometimes lonely in advocating this policy. when this policy ends, and i believe it will in our lifetime, the name of christopher smith will be linked to that victory. this is a picture of a young woman named lu dan. lu dan was 22 years old and 9 months pregnant when she was dragged out of her home screams and crying, strapped on to a
table, and forced to abort her 9 month old chinese baby. they did this even though they knew she had high blood pressure and this forced abortion would be dangerous for her. she was left alone in an operating room in the family planning center. finally at 3 in the morning, he fiance sensed something was wrong, burst into the room, discovered her unconscious with blood flowing from her ears, nose, eyes, and mouth. even so, the police didn't call for emergency help until he begged them too. finally help arrived, but it was too late. she died along with her 9 month old full term baby. the one child policy causes more violence towards women and girls than any other policy on earth and any other official policy in the history of the world.
it is china ease war op -- china's war on women and girls. i say to president obama, any discussion of women's rights or human rights would be a complete charade if the one-child policy is not front and center in that discussion. it does not matter whether you are pro-choice or pro-life on this issue. no one has an abortion because it is not a chias. rather the force the abortion policy is systematic, institutionalized violence against women. the chinese communist party says that this is none of our business, it's just their internal affair. this argument is a smoke screen. first of all, the chinese communist party signed several
treaties, and it is violating them by forced abortion. second, one child policy has given rise to gendercide, and here's a big article from the "economist" called gendercide. what happened to 100 million baby girls? because of sex selection abortion, there's an estimated 137 million more men in china than women, and that in turn is the driving force behind sexual slavery in china. within china and also for the surrounding countries. therefore, the one child policy is causing an international crisis in human trafficking and slavery and demands an international response.
.. is not draconian. this is demonstrably false. one child policy is forced abortion, forced sterilization. adopting it world wide or her role women's rights back to the dark ages and ted turner, if you're listening to this, i would love to debate you on this issue if you dare to have a substantive conversation about
this issue. forced abortion in china also affects americans because in some sense we are underwriting it through the united nations family-planning fund. this fund was founded by then secretary of state colin powell to be in cahoots with forced abortion family planning in china. it's my opinion the u.s. should not find the unfpa until the unfpa pulls out of china. in china, a woman's body is not her own. it belongs to the state. a woman's will miss the most intimate part of her body, physically, emotionally, and spiritually. for the chinese communist party to force their hand right into a woman's womb and crush the life in there against her will is a heinous crime against humanity. i call upon you, president obama, if you care about women's
rights, if you care about human rights, tell president hu jintao forced abortion must stop. thank you. [applause] >> that was very moving. one from the press and then i will go over there. yes, ma'am. >> some of them have already had a chance to talk to president obama before president hu's kovacic. i want to what is the main message to deliver to president obama. >> to the best of my knowledge, no one here has been granted the opportunity to read a letter as congresswoman will said was sent to the president before he made his trip to beijing last year, many of us -- i cheered when hearing and frank chaired the other at which time we presented evidence of the ongoing
egregious human rights abuses in china, and we asked the president, we pleaded with president obama to raise these human rights issues and meet with the defense attorneys in beijing who are targeted with a special by the public security police in china. he did not. and it was opportunity lost. i also say that -- and this is why there is a frustration level. last year when we marked the 20th anniversary of the trademark and minn square, the pre-assistant went to a grand the community was here in washington but especially right here president obama was in cairo giving a speech that could have occurred on any other day accept during the important and momentous week. we are very concerned that human-rights will be trivialized yes, there will be in mengin so that when they talk to you, the press, they can say we raise human rights, but there's a difference and it's recognized
by dictatorship will for the world between an old week mention or reference and a passionate belief human rights really do indeed matter with this white house and this congress and we know it matters with the american people and the press corps. nobody asks more questions than you, for which we are all very, very grateful. there has to be a very serious attempt perhaps during the state dinner during the toast. there are a myriad of opportunities to will present themselves, but to act as if forced abortion is not occurring on a ramp and scale, remember the nordenberg war crimes tribunal, forced abortion was properly construed to be a crime against humanity. it is no less a crime against humanity today. in this case the worst gender crime in human history. people from tibet, people from cutting kadeer come you heard from a wife that wants
desperately to see her husband again. he has disappeared. he was tortured with impunity before he got released and then again on second try. a daughter and son here to plead with president hu flat lie dad come home. you know, these policies, yes it's important to talk about all the other issues on the bilateral relationship, but human-rights has to be at the core and the center of those conversations. >> [inaudible] president obama on the latest letter to emphasize [inaudible] >> thank you so much to ask about infanticide in china. it's an extremely important issue. there are no official statistics, of course the chinese communist party attempt to deny that emphasize occur, but during the hearing in november to doesn't mind i presented a document, and i've got copies of it here for
anybody that wants to see it. it's called best practices infanticide. and what it is a web based discussion on the chinese ob/gyn website. these are officials chinese doctors discussing how best to kill newborn babies as they are being born during induced labor force abortion. it's absolutely chilling documents. then, in april of last year, there was an incident in which crematorium workers discovered, they heard cries coming out of a little box, opened the box and there was a live baby boy who had caught instead on his throat as somebody tried to choke him. horrified. the send the boy that the hospital, he seemed perfectly healthy and leader on that day that boy was sent back to the crematorium dead. that's a snapshot of infanticide in china. thank you.
>> as i think many people acknowledge one of the largest number of human rights victims that have fallen down and last year with your health and representative wolf, representative ros-lehtinen bipartisan resolution detailing portable torture and abuse against them passed with only one novo to in the house, but as the congressman said, while the ad patrician occasionally refers to tibet or the uyghurs or other victims they seem to silence. why do you think that is? >> it's a great question posed to dictatorship, but frankly, i often did it offered the first resolution that passed the house, recognizing this heightened animosity and repression toward the practitioners. it did pass, and as you did point out, ros-lehtinen passed
one dissenting vote. there is a special cruelty directed towards the practitioners. for some reason, unbeknownst to any of us, the dictatorship looks at the practitioners as the threat which they are not, they are very peace-loving and peaceful as for the catholics and the uyghurs, as are the tibetans and the christians torpor of the underground church. there is a paranoid on the part of hu jintao and others that has led to enormous cruelty that has to stop. that's why we are here has not heeded. it has gotten worse in most instances, and part of it is because the west has gone largely silent on human rights abuses, and that goes to the united nations as well. the human rights council has been nowhere to be found in holding china to recount. and there are implications for the world not just for the
suffering of oppressed victims of china. china is spreading its model will look for africa. i held three hearings on that when i shared the african committee and i have it again now and there are secret police to keep order whether it be the east bloc countries for the soviet union, the soviet union itself, russia, they keep order the do it with an iron fist and that is exactly what is happening to spread the government's model all over the world. >> why do you think the obama administration and the u.s. media even though they do sometimes refer to other victims are studiously silent, not even mentioning? >> am i who was a press conference like this, and i will follow-up with several hearings in my subcommittee, i won't be alone in holding hearings tomorrow chairwoman ros-lehtinen will be holding a hearing on china, so we are really trying to bring renewed focus this week
can come in a promise that it will become can be a game changer where the human rights issue finally emerges front and center and people like hu jintao and others who have repressed their people -- we need to stand with the oppressed, not with the oppressor, notwithstanding the debt issue or anything else, human-rights trump all other issues and it's time to reassert it. any other questions? thank you -- yes, ma'am. >> someone has asked this point that out in the hallway. do you think it's wrong for the president to be holding this? >> i would prefer as president bush did that there be a working lunch or a working meeting. i remember when he came to town during the clinton administration. he was the butcher of beijing. he's the operational commander who ordered the bloodletting that occurred at the tiemann square. he was invited to the white house, he was invited -- was
given a 19 gun salute under the clinton administration. i held a hearing committee emergency, put it together real quick because he said nobody died at tiananmen square. so i brought in dissidents who were there that day with magazine correspondent and others including people, a daily editor went to prison reporting accurately what he's all and they all gave testimony that of course people died. many died and many died there after, so the statement was way off base. sorry, but i see a little deja vu. the butcher of beijing, we now have a man who is the president of china who has had a very poor human-rights record. as i mentioned in the opening, let's not forget he was there in tibet when the huge crack down right before tiananmen occurred, and large numbers of people were murdered, killed, beaten to a pulp and then send to the prison camps where they were beaten
even further and as i said earlier, electrical props -- i had a hearing on the -- and harry hu helped put it together, the survivors. one of the individuals, a buddhist monk who literally brought in the employment of torture. he had a hard time getting through downstairs with the police. i had to go down and escort him through. but he said this is the reality coming and he held up a cattle prod that is routinely applied to the general goals under the arms and other places to cause excruciating pain. the president of china today presided over that in tibet, and now she's in a position where the ongoing repression, the use of torture, the use of torture is absolutely pervasive. the u.n. special repertoire of torture actually did a very concise of peace on it and can away queerly with information that if you are arrested for a so-called political crime or because you are a practitioner
or catholic underground church or pastore you will be tortured. that issue has to be raised. and what it be better at the dinner that had far less of the trappings of a state dinner. i believe we need to meet with hu jintao. we need to meet with all leaders, but look them in the eyes and hold them to account for the egregious human rights abuses that they have committed and their public security police have committed. thank you. >> i want to give you additional information. we have videotapes of ob/gyn doctors last fall where she personally testified during her two year period as an ob/gyn nurse every single day it's a small hospital, they would perform eight or nine abortions, forced abortions, and the baby -- the mother would come either
forced and other ways by family and they would be injecting poison into the baby's skulls and the contraction would take place and the mother would be in no pain to reduce debt. one time the baby came out with an eight month old and the babies in the with plays and in his mind he was still struggling, crying, and they were told of the beebee is still crying not did they would take the baby and dump the baby's face into the water bucket and devotee of been doing day after day until finally that babies cry disturbs herpes and she couldn't do that anymore, she quit. those are the jobs that are lucrative. they used to hope that a pregnant mother would be healthy so that they would be able to sell the placenta this is still taking place every single day and 16 million abortions are taking place i think in last year, 2010, and so many of these
women are single mothers who by law are not allowed to give birth to the baby, and many of them are forced abortions because they don't have the birth permit after they've gotten married, and so among our statistics estimate among the 16 additional to that two to 3 million are simply aborted because they are baby girls. it attributes to the 14 million single mothers and drum right now. the 14 million china will not find a bride. it is as big as the young man u.s. population. so what we believe as president obama lead out the four agendas, economic collaboration, national security, geographic security and also i think there is some kind of third 1i forgot. the policy is a threat for all three of them. china is getting old before it
gets rich, and the u.s. economy is highly connected to china's economy. so this policy has to and for the american security. so what's going to happen to the 40 million minn? there are statistics and trends the men are being recruited into the enlarged national people's liberation army and air excessive men will do to the peace come and the excess of men without finding a broad is causing massive sex trafficking in the region. just in november alone there were cases discovered that over 10,000 women are trafficked from the border countries, from the vietnam, burma, cambodia and thailand. so not only china's trafficking winner of the bordering countries, it's trafficking its own children. among core cases reunited with
their families, two out of the for our young and girls aged eight and nine to be sold as a child brides so that is what is happening with china, and this policy has to and if president obama and the secretary clinton want to improve with china. [inaudible conversations] >> you have been most patient. one of our speakers who couldn't get here earlier, john lee, the peace prize committee itself has designated because of his human rights work spending time in laogai himself. he was delayed but would you like to say a couple of which? >> thank you, congressman. i'm sorry i'm late. the weather is very bad.
i think they have already said a great lot already. i understand there are a lot of big issues of concern for the u.s. relations with china, but today we come here president obama and the public to a more fundamental matter that is the matter of hu jintao's government. china is the only country that in prisons a nobel peace prize winner. to make matters even worse, after the prize last october, hu jintao's government his wife under house arrest, and shortly after cut off all of her contacts with the outside world completely and she hasn't been
heard of ever since october october 20th, 2010. this is particularly egregious because he has never been accused of committing any crime at any time whatsoever. so today, i am calling on the international community to pay close attention to the situation. especially president obama to read the case in the meeting with hu jintao. as we are standing here speaking, thousands if not tens of thousands of prisoners are languishing in the chinese prison. among them is a 42-year-old man. his name is on my shirt. democracy activists in tien an men square, he has spent 40 of
the past 20 years in prison. he was arrested a fourth time and was accused of inciting subversion of the state power. he has been detained without trial, without a family visit so today i am telling president obama as well as his chinese counterpart he is innocent and he must be released. and i think there are many, many cases -- i think my colleagues have already mentioned the case in their remarks. now i think the question is why? why should chinese government treat their citizens matter here for americans?
welcome if you look at the history of the world, one, you cannot find a single example of word of power that treats its own citizens harshly, treats other people nicely. so we cannot forget the warnings of the words of martin luther king, whose birthday we just celebrated yesterday in justice threat is injustice anywhere. [applause] >> any questions? thank you very, very much.
make it here today. for some of the americans despite the weather that may have needed a little more difficult to get over here this morning. let me make a few announcements and then i want to turn the chair over to jon thornton. first, there are simultaneous translations available. you each should have a microphone. you can plug this into the microphone and directions or over here. channel five for english, channel six for chinese. please, hold onto your your phones and cassette through the morning, through the session and the following one. and then at the end of the morning, you can put your microphones on the table over there as you leave. secondly, you will get -- you should have a schedule that tells you where to go from each session to each session.
but we will also make announcements at the end of every session so that you will be very clear about what begins next and where you go in between. finally, let me ask you to be sure to turn yourself phones off so we can focus solely on the speakers and the substance. with that set of pronouncements, let me introduce john fourth him, who is the chair of the brookings board of trustees. john? >> thank you. i want to start the proceedings by reading a letter from president obama when i finish, michael host then zheng bijian will read a letter from president hu jintao. i send greetings to those attending the second annual united states-china strategic vehicle china for month energy corporation. your participation contribute to
meeting the global challenges of climate change. america's relationship with china is among the most important and the consequential in the world today. continuing to strengthen the cooperation of our two countries to address common global challenges will help shape and improve the world and the 21st century. if little component of this effort is our robust bilateral collaboration on climate change and clean energy, which is necessary to ensure both nations exarate the respective transitions to low carbon energy security economies. by working together, we can hasten the development and deployment of clean energy technologies to our mutual benefit and to the betterment of our world. i am pleased our governments were able to come together constructively over the past years to promote a successful outcome in cancun building on the copenhagen accord, namely the adoption of the cancun agreements. the global challenges climate change cannot be addressed why
our government alone. we also need the active support and cooperation of the private sector, scientific communities, non-governmental organizations and other stakeholders involved in public policy to develop a strong, clean energy partnership. even for this forum bring these parties together, helping us to build this partnership and accomplish our shared goals. i wish you all the best for a productive event, barack obama. thank you. chairman, over to you. [applause] >> the >> translator: ladies and gentlemen, friends, good morning
we are all pleased to come to washington to house the syrian port and strategic forum on u.s.-china energy cooperation. this is the second session. the first session, and i wish the second session to be a very successful conference. now, i would like -- chinese president mr. hu jintao's message to the second session on a strategic forum, u.s.-china clean every -- clean energy cooperation july 16th 2011 and this is the message from president hu jintao.
on the occasion of the second session of the strategic forum on u.s.-china clean energy cooperation coasted by the china institute of innovation and development strategy and the brookings institution in washington, d.c., i would like to express congratulations to all of the participants to the fore, through china and the united states and also, i would like to give my sincere greetings to the friends from both countries who have cared for the bilateral relationship between the two countries. ayaan 219, the first session of the strategic forum on the u.s.-china clean energy cooperation was successfully held in beijing, which provided
a platform for men and women from both countries to promote cooperation in environment and energy. i believe the second session of the forum will continue to promote the two countries' cooperation on clean energy and sustainable development. this forum will certainly play a very important role in this area. china and the united states are both big energy producers and big energy consumers. in our cooperation on clean energy and environment would have great potential. in recent years according to the framework of cooperation energy
we have steadily pushed forward a more pragmatic cooperation in the area of energy, and during our efforts with international community's to meet the challenges of climate change and thus has substantiated to the china u.s. relations. now we have a number of important topics in the human development, social development. china and the united states have more extensive common interests now, and we both shoulder heavy responsibilities, and the chinese side is willing to work together with of the united states on the basis of the issue will respect and mutual benefit to promote positive, cooperative
and comprehensive china u.s. relationships so as to benefit the people some in both the two countries and the people of around the world. i wish the second session of the forum on the u.s.-china clean energy cooperation a big success hu jintao, president of the people's republic of china, 16th of january, 2011. [applause] >> a few comments by way of introduction of the session and i will be brief.
i see the point of this entire year today's as doing our part to ensure the issues of clean energy and energy efficiency are the top of the u.s.-china relationship. i also see that interaction the exchange on this topic as a kind of model for other countries. the two biggest consumers and in the first can work together to solve these problems, than any other country should be able to do the same. also see it as a model for u.s. relations. the u.s. and china can cooperate in this area constructively and there is no reason we can't cooperate in any other area constructively. i see this occurring in three ways, three practical ways in the next few days. number one, people to people interaction, by that i don't just mean exchange but deepening the relationships everyone in this room knows the world is built up for relationships and
everyone knows these are central to building a cooperative relationship to in the two countries and so i would encourage you to go out of your way to deepen your relationships with friends from the other country. second, i see the content of this meeting directly impacting policies in the two countries. we know from the letters we just received from respective leaders that they are taking this very seriously and we will get the input of this conference directly to them and have a direct impact on policy. finally, in the course of the two days we will have an announcement of some concrete agreements to show that we are not simply having a talk shop but we are actually doing things. i'm going to say a few quick words about ambassador huntsman and then say a few words about zheng bijian and he will speak and will be the first session. on ambassador hans and i'm not going to deliver his biography that you either know or is in the brochure. i will simply say two or three -- call on two or three points.
he has been a very successful business leader, political leader and statesman and in all of those roles he's always been an innovative thinker and a very pragmatic leader. to my chinese friends in particular i want to say about ambassador huntsman insofar as you are learning about our country, this is somebody to pay attention to. he cares deeply about china. he is highly knowledgeable about china. in fact, in my experience, and i have not been paying close attention in the last few years, in my mind he is among the leaders of this country, he is the single most knowledgeable and interested and passionate observer of your country, and i think therefore can be a very important constructive force for the relationship going forward. we are pleased he was able to carve out some time from history busy schedule during the state visit and i give you ambassador huntsman. [applause]
>> spec [speaking in chinese] >> translator: how was it for the? the weather is bad this morning but i see most people showed up, very good. i'm very grateful to mr. for giving me an introduction and i got my wife is here because she can hear nice words about me. -- from china and the united states who are gathered here. we have so many excellent leaders. my good friend and former ambassador joe just to name a few. and i am so very delighted that this session through brookings is able to bring a spotlight on something as important as clean
energy within the u.s.-china relationship and jon thornton who himself is a one-man think tank. i want to thank him for his friendship and his vision and his guidance in particular their resulted in bringing us here today. winston churchill used to say famously you never kiss a person who's leaning away from you. you never climb a mountain that is leaning towards you. and you never speak to a group that knows a hell of a lot more about the subject matter can you do, which is the cardinal rule that i am violating this morning. my friends in china have another way to say it. [speaking in chinese]
in just a few hours, president hu will arrive in washington. for the first state visit by a chinese leader since 1997 when visiting the clinton. strobe talbott remembers that. my good friend, ken lehman -- sleeper fall who remembers that. think about it. almost 15 years have passed. the world has changed a lot since then. when deng visited we revivalist a relationship and i believe president hu's visit will have a similarly significant impact on where this relationship will go
in the decades ahead. and where this relationship goes is important not only for the united states and china, but also for the rest of humankind. no two countries are more prominently positioned on the world stage today. the united states and china are the world's two largest economies. we've to of the largest military is, we are the two largest energy users and carbon in matters for so many reasons. this is a bilateral relationship that touches every country on earth. if you take any of the most critical issues of the day from the economy to the environment, from national security to nuclear proliferation, the we four word must include joint action by both the united states and china.
to be sure, the united states and china do have important and fundamental differences that we need to be honest about and confront openly and respectfully , and believe me, neither side is shoddy about that. in my opinion, that is the best way to develop a friendship even and especially among friends and partners. building trust the old-fashioned way just as we have done now for almost 40 years since the communique was signed in tiberi of 1972. it's not always easy, it will always be smooth, but the reasons for close collaboration with both countries are just too compelling, and if either country wants to succeed, both countries will have to work together. and so, as we move forward, i
believe increasingly we need to demonstrate the tangible benefits of this relationship. we need to highlight how this relationship helps improve lives here in america from wall street to main street, and believe me come in this age of instantaneous communication, i believe the same will be required of my friends from china. this is what makes today's gathering so timely and important. cooperation on clean energy is a further our common interests and benefit not only our people, but also many throughout the world for decades to come. our two countries have had some success in this area. you'll hear about them through as a day. the problem is those successes, which are often accomplished in
the context of a jcct war snad or some other acronym don't necessarily resonate with average americans or average chinese. we have to humanize these accomplishments. we have to make them real in ways that citizens on both sides better see the benefits of supporting a strong u.s. and china relationship. what does that mean? it means we can't just discuss these topics as of stress or technical issues because they aren't. ultimately, we need to make clear to the u.s.-china relationship is one of the best opportunities we have to improve the quality-of-life for average american families and businesses big and small because the economic opportunities are increasingly very real.
so when people ask me why we should cooperate with china on a clean energy initiatives, and i say it's very simple. we are embarking on a technological revolution and clean energy like the space program or electronics of the 20th century that will dramatically expand high-quality jobs, living standards and the economy of the united states. we will get better products, lower prices and more jobs in both countries. i believe the possibilities in this particular area, clean energy, or unlimited. here's a good example. a few months ago i met the legendary innovator and philanthropist bill gates in beijing. generally when bill gates mentions he has an idea for the product, i listen. but this time the product is a new kind of nuclear reactor,
something that could operate for 40 to 60 years without refueling compare that to what we have today where reactors need to be opened up and refueled every 18 months or so so that is of this technology works, we could need a lot less uranium to create a whole lot more energy with far less nuclear waste and keeping the uranium inside the reactor means we don't have to worry about terrorists buying it on the black market. you can see why this would be of such great interest to so many people. but why china? this is an american company but the simple reality is right now the regulatory environment right here in the united states means a what take decades just to certify the design. by partnering with foot chinese, they could move ahead and then
commercialize the technology around the globe when it is proven. the end result, countries around the world would get cleaner safer energy and the joint u.s. company could lead the world and nuclear reactor construction. that is a very big deal for so many involved. today with the jobs being so very needed, our cooperation on clean energy development is creating tremendous opportunities for new employment throughout the united states. westinghouse is a prime example. i'm sure many of you are already familiar with their work in china where they are focused on foreign next-generation nuclear reactors. but you may not know is those reactors in china have already either saved or created 5,000 high-quality jobs here in america and across 13 different
states. so as long as we can continue to produce cutting its technology and maintain our competitive the advantage in management, services and education, the china market will loom very large and as china continues its efforts in renewable energy we are beginning to see companies launching operations in the united states, and that means even more investment and job creation here for us. more broadly, our cooperation on clean energy is important and timely because of its impact on the environment, health and quality-of-life. this is a global challenge and it cannot be resolved unilaterally. we need to cooperate across ideologies and across borders, and we are. both countries have committed $150 million in public and private support for a new clean energyç research center which will help generate new ideas and
new products and at least three critical areas with vast potential. efficient building codes, carbon captured and sequestration and electric vehicles. why do i think these are such critical areas for research and cooperation? well, look at the numbers. 70 present of china's energy comes from cal. china currently uses half the world's cement every year and its current building trends continue to build enough force base in the next 30 years to pave the entire united states of america. in one year, that is all of new york. last year in beijing, there were more than 700,000 new cars on the road, that's 2,000 more cars every day in beijing alone. that might be hard to imagine but take it from a guy that makes the commute daily. my travel time is almost doubled
in the last year. the challenge is where do we go from here? we are moving in a similar direction. the question is how do we ensure a common pathway for both the united states and china and that puts us back to where i started to read these cooperative efforts will only work if we have the public behind us. we have to be relentless in demonstrating the benefits and speaking honestly about the challenges. in closing, let me suggest three ways we can broaden the public understanding of the importance of the relationship with china and the need for greater cooperative efforts. first, we need to continue to expand and promote mutual understanding country to country and people to people. we are already moving toward our goal to send 100,000 u.s. students to china which is
perhaps the greatest investment long term that this country could be making. and i know we are working overtime at the industry at beijing and the consulate throughout china to process a record number of the visa applications for chinese business delegations from students, performing, performers and tourist here in the united states. we just recently confirmed china is now the number one country in the world in terms of sending students to the united states. 130,000 in total in just one year by 40%. by the weak, in terms of job creation, let me just add pretty much every one of those 130,000 students is paying full tuition which means every time we issued one of those visas we are either saving or creating a job in the united states. second, we need to continue our cooperative effort to protect intellectual property rights in
china. this is a critical issue in the high-tech sector including clean energy and it generates a lot of concern in both u.s. and chinese companies. we spent the past 16 months in particular working hard to convince chinese businesses that this is not a u.s. versus china issue. this is an issue that affects anyone developing new ideas and new products. i was lucky enough to address a roomful of chinese entrepreneurs last year the conference where the u.s. relationship started in 1972. and i can tell you this next generation of chinese innovators and strategic leaders, they get this better than just about anybody regardless of nationality or business affiliation. increasingly, they have at least as much to lose from violations
as their american counterparts. so i'm very optimistic we are starting to gain a little ground on this. i should also note the chinese government recently launched a six month crackdown on counterfeit technology and is making sure every government office is binding legal software only, no bootlegs and we greatly applaud this effort. third, we should expand our official points of contact. tomorrows state visit should help us usher a new era of bilateral cooperation and not just at the top, but across the board. we need to encourage our governors and provincial leaders, our mayors and local officials to spend a little more time comparing notes. the future of this relationship will be more alabama were sold like city [speaking in chinese]
last september we organized a visit by over 20 chinese mayors to the u.s. west coast cities to exchange views with their u.s. counterparts on deploying green technologies and cities in both our countries. ultimately, that is where the relationship will flourish at the grassroots where we live and where we work on main street and around the family dinner table. it is the opinion generated in every home and every home that will determine the long-term success of this relationship. as i sit at the outset, president hu's visit is as important an opportunity as we have had in years to bring this relationship into our daily conversations. our presidents are talking, our businesses are growing and expanding, even our military's are starting to be engaged with one another as they did last week with secretary gates while he was in china for yet another
very important exchange. our job with it is about clean energy or energizing the private sector to make the benefits of this relationship as clear as possible for the people of each country. we have to improve the lives of ordinary americans just as the chinese have to improve the lives of their citizens. if sustained common ground is to be found in the u.s.-china relationship, there is no better impetus than the strong desire on both sides to aggressively pursue a clean energy future, and by doing so, we will likely better understand the meaning of my favorite dynasty after is some: [speaking in chinese] thank you all free much. [applause]
>> investor come thank you for kimmage with comments and the inspiration. i hope you see what i said earlier about jon huntsman's ability to hit the nail on the head as about humanizing the issue is absolutely central and something which needs an enormous amount of work. so why thank you for those comments. now chairman zheng bijian, just to personal comments about him. at brookings be started a practice a few years ago of identifying the most interesting , deepest thinkers and china on public policy issues and translating the work into high-quality english city could be accessible to people in our country. our first book, essays by zheng bijian, because he has been the most innovative and deepest thinker on public policy issues in china for a very long time.
the issue of clean energy and energy efficiency is something he identified long before it became commonly discussed. he put it right at the center of his famous peaceful rise theory. we could have no better more influential voice, no more pragmatic thinker, no more relentless thinker than chairman zheng bijian. we welcome you and look forward to your comments. thank you. [applause] >> [speaking in chinese] >> translator: ambassador huntsman, friends, ladies and gentlemen, today are a record 2006 when president hu jintao
made a state visit to the united states as the president of the people's republic of china at that time together with csis blight organized a strategic workshop of the china u.s. relations with president hu jintao met with participants of the forum, which made for limited success. today, we are very happy to attempt to gather with you before and on the china u.s. relations in the second decade of the 21st century and the second session of the strategic forum on u.s. and china clean energy corporation posted by the
china institute of innovation and a defendant strategy and the brookings institution here in washington, d.c. during the important historical moment of president hu jintao's visit to your country. i fully agree with and appreciate ambassador huntsman's very insightful speech. his assistants are very inspiring and encouraging. i believe his words and predictions will turn out to be true and i have a strong belief in that because i am also an observer. i'm not someone faces things without any ground. looking back to the china u.s. relations since the normalization, we can see that the critical junctures, men and
women have risen from both countries, never lost sight of the routes for the trees. the show commendable provide experience and wisdom and joining hands to overcome difficulties and manage to maintain the normal development of the relations which was good news for the international community. now in the week of the international financial crisis that is both our two countries, we need to remember more than ever the successful experience focused on the word in other words, keep a global vision and show pragmatism and political wisdom in our efforts to remove interferences. in this way, we can refuel the