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most positive parts of the book is precisely urie with the state of education in this country and a anecdote about being and carry at in seeing children congregating. >> that was 15 years ago during the olympics because of the time difference and when i would finish, it would be not yet don and i will look down from the building there was a junior high a courtyard below me. add about 5:45 a.m. flashlights would be all over the courtyard and it would be students doing their homework waiting for the doors to open. that is how motivated they were. the doors to about open for another hour.
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. . i deliberately didn't choose china to make as a centerpiece because we all know about that but it's going on everywhere else as well. >> i very much enjoyed reading of this encounter you had with president obama where he's
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headed the biggest lesson we learned from world war ii is america can do anything when it puts its mind to it but we've got to exercise those muscles. i think that provided it with ways that we are performed in a dangerous to our long-term prosperity and security. the notion of atrophied muscles, expand on that and in some ways i think it does connect to your story. >> i don't think he's wrong. we went to war after 9/11 on a credit card we didn't ask anything of the rest of us, no sacrifices whatsoever. we are in courage to go back and go shopping again. we had this enormous boom in housing which was irrational so much of it from the beginning. i remember our daughter calling me from some francisco she said
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my god, dad, they are offering me 20 your deals with interest only for the first 15 years. you can see what was coming to come at the end of the first 15 years if she said we are going to be more cautious. i worry about my friends and i went to a couple major construction people at that time and said what is going on and they said there's so much implementation out there now people will loan anything in fannie mae and freddie mac were driving a lot of that and those were to political institutions, clause by public very clever, jim johnson and others about getting the idea of home ownership for everyone when plainly not everyone was qualified and was going to be cut we are paying a big price for that we have 20 million homes in this country at the moment that are either in foreclosure or stress or a new danger of going into foreclosure the police 20 million homes are
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not buying new appliances, carpeting, they can't move to the new job, they are stuck with the biggest investment they will make in their life. it represents a lot of their network and so when we get the housing thing figured out is going to be a harder job to get the economy really rolling back on track in a way that we need to and neither party is talking about that which is kind of striking to me. >> your book is made of some very pointed questions. one of them is a question john f. kennedy asked many years ago. if john f. kennedy were around today and asked you what you could do to your country, what you've done for your country recently how would you answer? how would you answer? >> i would say i appeared at the new york public library. [laughter] [applause] >> that's one of the things. >> honestly think that i'm at a stage in my life this if there
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is an oxymoron in american life is a humble linker and we don't exist so this is in modest of me but i seem to have early certain place where people will listen to me and i've always cared about the country and the greatest generation right in that book gave me a kind of platform that was completely unanticipated. so i thought i ought not to squander that, so i ought to step up not just as a citizen and as a journalist but as a father and husband and a grandfather and if i see these things i ought to write about them and sort this dialogue which i am chongging to do with this book about where we need to get to next. in our family we all do a lot of different things. meredith is here tonight and she has a microdebt finance cleanup and i have a daughter-in-law law on the board of habitat and another daughter who spent a lot
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of time and in haiti this year living with rodents crawling all over. she was doing grief counseling and another daughter worked for the rescue committee in the position in san francisco because we were raised by parents and grandparents who just saw that as a part of the natural calling of life that you gave fact. so life than that, but i think my larger contribution is try to engage people in the events that define their time. >> and you have passages in the book precisely about the legacy of parents left to you and how careful and cautious they were and thrifty yet it never spent more than they had. they say like almost everyone else in the age they were 50 by
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nature and necessity. they didn't spend what they didn't have and they saved something every week. >> sometimes to a fault. they were too thrifty. they didn't -- i would say lighten up a little bit. you can afford this. that was hard for them to do it. hard for them to spend the extra bucks sometimes. it didn't mean they didn't have a great life. the did everything they wanted to do and i had the good fortune of having a real resources and so i could help them in ways that, trips or helping them any retirement place it never defined our relationship with my dad died before we began of a massive coronary but it had been announced and this was a great things for our family for me to suddenly have this wonderful job in all this responsibility and it came with a very substantial
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salary and i caught the wave of people getting paid a lot of money for doing this kind of work in the got a lot of publicity. and my father, who never earned i think cash income more than $9,000 in his life may be at the end he did better than that he worked for the corps of engineers. anyhow he called me with a wonderful sense of humor and said i'm reading these reports about your salary. is that true? i said we never talk about my salary before and i made good money before that but this has taken me to a different level. i don't know. so we went on to something else and about a weak leader time magazine did detailed reporting. what i was making, and was making, barbara walters, my father called me and michael him lead, he called a backend set by reading "time" magazine. [laughter] i said come on, dad, why are we
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talking about this? i will tell you why we are talking about it as long as my mother and i have no new you from short to the end of the year we know how short to send this year. [laughter] what was a perfect way of dealing with at. i took him shopping in california one time he came out to visit us at a high and place and i had the cars going through the supermarket and i thought i would show off my thrifty genes of the head freshly squeezed orange juice and i said that's expensive let's get the box up and he reached out in my shopping cart picked up three extensive extensivecall bottles of california wine and said i guess the money you spend on orange juice will help pay for that. [laughter] >> he must have been very proud to the estimate she was proud and you could not ask my mother
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about it without saying my son who lives in denver was running a restaurant, la some, like, lives around the corner. the just didn't play favorites in which my father when i first got to have some kind of public celebrity somebody once asked him when he was at a gathering in our hometown somebody said are you related to tom brokaw and my dad said i think that he's the cousin. i am not sure. [laughter] >> another aspect of your book that i would like us to talk about is which i didn't really know is the incredible importance you attach to what one might call and an enlightened the form of philanthropy. philanthropy plays an important role in by that i mean foundations such as one of the
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ones i'm particularly attached to in this city is the robin hood foundation in you talk about it and a way the foundation would do well to expand in many different cities. >> i was a big skeptic when it first started. these are a bunch of rich guys trying to buy a reputation. they invited me to the breakfast. they have another one coming up before too long. john kennedy jr. was there that time and he introduced to young men who had gone to prep school with it was moving what they were doing and the job was attached to them, so when john plus lost i felt what can i do lynn-dyson i would like to help out for awhile and i did. then the robin hood people came to me and said we could really
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use you on the board because we are all hedge fund guys and we make a lot of money but we don't have much of a political year. we will understand how the rest of the world works we are used to having our way we need somebody to give a reality check so i went on the board and i must tell you i was astonished at the commitment of these very busy people and the discipline they brought to how they gave away their money. they pay all the overhead for robin hood. the of the tricks in which they go to agencies, very professional staff, take the measure of an agency for mothers for abused family members and say how plug is it going to work or it's doing something really important but we need to go in and help the staff and pay for everything. all that is done. this is the most generous country in the world. there is no other country in the
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world that gives money as freely as the united states does for a variety of causes and no study weather.com para picks when it comes to raising money. i do a lot of the vincible waldorf and for some time for causes that almost no one knows about and it's not routine to raise one or $2 million in light of the waldorf. one of the things when we first began to have some money in our family my girls sometimes work even more generous than i wanted them to be, we could give away and when but yet grown up with no money and when i found a part of the attractiveness of it is it does freedom in the you can help out with three causes but robin hood is a model there are a lot of models. i will share another 1i am particularly taken with and this
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has to do with education which i think a lot of how we refer education in america will depend on the public-private partnership there is a man in atlanta who was a very successful commercial developer who built the cnn center and he owns the sports teams and rebuilt downtown alley into. she is probably a third or fourth generation georgian, a well-educated man of faith, presbyterian married to a wonderful woman and he was making a lot of money doing small things but you wanted to do something bigger and there's a part called the last lake erie and it had a golf course called the east like a golf course where they paid the first and last round of golf but it had completely deteriorated into was surrounded by the most crime-ridden neighborhood in million tons, and tallman decided he could change the neighborhood beginning with the golf course and everybody told
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him it was the dumbest idea they ever heard in his response was i lost a lot of money on your des moines id is i'm going to lose some on my ideas now and he went and reform the golf course and then he sold all memberships and a fair amount of money and took all that money and went to the community it wasn't an easy sell because they were suspicious of a white guy coming into to get into of then he said you need fixed income housing here. i'm going to build it so we can bring in the light working class families and we need to change the school system. he did all of that. it is an amazing model environment. cnbc did a documentary on it and warren buffett solid and so did joann robertson who is one of the founders of the hedge fund industry. they called and said to us and we are your partners and the of something called purpose built in indiana, new orleans in charlotte, they are going to go into omaha it into the downtrodden areas and what they are doing is creating
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communities and became the school's the centerpiece and i don't know how much of his fortune he will give away but he couldn't be happier and he couldn't be more modest so i thought he deserved attention and there are other examples like that. it goes on in this country and what we need to do is elevate that kind of an example it seems to me it a sure that becomes a role. >> one of the things that has happened in philanthropy is the new generation , was my age -- but the new generation, there's never been anything like the bill and melinda gates be read the amount of your spending in the world, how actively are involved, this generation of philanthropists they want to run their money. we are surrounded by this library and the vanderbilt and
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jpmorgan in the they've and the ford foundation and they've turned the money over to a foundation that walked away. this new generation wants control and they're doing it and having a big impact and a lot of areas. education i think will be helped a lot to buy the home builder from los angeles. jim simons the math professor who made so much money as a hedge fund guy the of course is going and they know -- >> you tell about bill gates and warren buffett. tell that story because it's a wonderful story. >> i got to know bill early because i thought he was going to want to get into our business so i made a point of -- well before i fully understood what he was up to -- limited plant going up and getting to know him and in fact msnbc stands for
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microsoft and b.c.. we formed a partnership. it didn't work out perfectly but we still have many pieces and place. bill would come back to new york and have meetings. the meeting with jack welch one day jack called me because i felt to bring bill into the building. he said come on up here we have some things to discuss. and they took our picture and this was before melinda kind of got control of the wardrobe and personal grooming. [laughter] he didn't care about all that stuff. they made it look like his hair had been cut by shrubbery shares of some kind and he had a plaid jacket and striped pants and jackets in his power were ceo sood indictment my internal and outfit and we had our picture taken. to get the picture to us immediately and by implying off to lunch with a very close friend of mine who is on the orrin's board calls and says warren is going to be there as well. we've all known each other for a
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while. and we go to lunch and i show the pictures to warren and my friend, ron, and i said how you are a mother, you have three sons. which one are you worried about? [laughter] [applause] picks more and without missing a beat said yeah, i often tell people billion by are so rich because we share a comb. there was a killer line. [laughter] >> and you're 50 years of -- [laughter] >> half a century, yeah. >> but it's also the strength of longevity in the dedication and doing something. who served you early on to lead all netz models? >> hudna by model myself alana?
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in my profession i have the privilege of being raised by newspaper guides. akaka the waiver of an early stage in my life and newspapers were still the dominant of culture when it came to covering politics and covering everything in those days. when i was in los angeles, for example, i arrived in 1966 as a 26-year-old to cover ronald reagan running for governor and the only time had a first-rate political reporting team, older guys and i thought back and i don't know what prompted them that they kind of metaphorically put their arm around me, and helped me through it and kept their autonomy and we became friends. we had dinner every night. one of them comecon radicals did brilliant pulitzer prize-winning cartoonist and i began to write
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and can't of sealed the deal that felt like i was one of them. when i moved to washington as a white house correspondent i was coming from l.a. where i was in as a local political reporter and their skepticism on whether i could do the job. after a but three weeks on the job at the white house, there was a legendary washington newspaperman by the name of peter from chicago was the best of the breed, and he did the same thing. he kind of became my friend. we stayed in close touch and talked with each other and then my really close friend and contemporary of mine at "the wall street journal" that really i thought helped me a lot because it gave me this disciplined framework in which i operate at the broadcast journalist but also the standards of print or more different than what we did in broadcast. most of all, what it did was keep my ego in check.
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they would let the air out with me in a nanosecond if i kind of got puffed up. peter used to mouth when he would see me across the way i would be up in a booth in a convention for the example presiding over our coverage kind of feeling pretty good about this and i looked out of the booth and 4,000 people i absolutely find peter in he would ralph this of semidey to me silently and it would break the habit and bring me back to what i was doing. it was very helpful to me. [laughter] older guys evin lacrosse -- walter cronkite and i became friends and i treasured that and in the roomy is not doing well now. he is having a hard time and i just will cherish that friendship. when i made him a member of the greatest generation and wrote about him she would argue with me i don't think i am a member of the greatest generation.
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i don't like the phrase veteran. i don't need you to collis -- i finally said i'm going to put an times by your name and say everybody is the greatest except you. [laughter] >> the you still hold on to that phrase. >> i hold on to the phrase the greatest generation. >> i do. and my defense is very short. that is my story and i am sticking to it. i before the book was written on the air a lot of people responded to it and i have had a lot of challenges to meet in volume prepared -- it wasn't a perfect generation. i don't say that. but in fact that generation came out of the war out of the depression about deprivation of sacrifice and not about a lot of hope, never complaining and then went off and fought the greatest war in the history of mankind. in 1939 this was the 16th military power in the world. by 1941 we are in the greatest war of all times and it is in
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the pacific and as well as in europe it's in north africa. it is on six of the seven continents, and half of us one day after pearl harbor have them listed as warriors and at home least of all civilian production of automobiles and turn on the tanks and weapons. they are building the 29 down in which a tall talking to one of the machinists she said the engineers would leave on a yellow legal pad and drawings the night before and we would meet with them all like long widest looking at the drawing we could find out these were former police who knew how to do these kind of things and they did nothing less and save the world. and it wasn't just the american populace. the brits holding the line and then the russians pushing them back which was hugely critical. >> then they came home and they did -- the went to college in record numbers and built the industries and gave us new art and science and built states like florida and california, and
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got married and record members, went to college, and then about the 1950's to achieve prosperity none of them ever believed that they could have and they resisted some of the changes but in fact as i remind people they were a member of the greatest generation. she began to change the attitude about women in america. and african-americans who surf came back and that became the foundation to the civil rights movement because they were not going to be discriminated against in the same way into the next generation led by dr. king and others did change that. the greatest generation members in vietnam but members of the greatest generation were the most articulate critics of it as well as the senate george mcgovern and gaylord nelson and the others who kind of gave a voice to it. so i'm satisfied that was a gem accretion worth celebrating is
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how i would put it. >> take us back a little bit when he began and you were an anchor so many years back. was it easier back then than you think it is now? >> am i e-business? much easier. when i started in television news of a disney television a lot of us would see in the remote parts of the country. >> for the first time when you for 15. >> i saw the beginning of the report in 1965 and i was just mesmerized. >> can you remember exactly? >> i do remember the light was coming on. they were talking about it. >> what was your first impression? >> i remember the idea that we were seeing things i never expected to see in my living room in south dakota. i read the papers to replace all the movies and had on this black-and-white television at 5:30 at night to guys doing a 15 minute broadcast and saying, you
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know, what was going on in washington that day and stuff that was going on in europe. it was amazing. before that, to go see the world and this will tell the mother would put all of us in the car and drive to sue city iowa and we would stand outside of the department store and see the world series or go to sioux falls because they could get signals. we couldn't get them on our remote areas. when i got to the big town of yankton, we had a television sigoloff three channels to choose from. some days i remember watching walter cronkite, you know, during the sunday afternoon kind of shows. ed romero was a huge hero of mine, watching all that. and i suppose in the fourth began to form i would like to do that. the thing about network television in those days it was a real meritocracy. they reach out across the country to get the correspondent and "time" magazine, "the new
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york times," the other great institutions from harvard or yale or different pedigrees in television was an open field i often described as the invention will devotees across that landscape so i started in omaha and when i was there in the station often feed stories into brinkley and i remember one of the officers were going to go to 15 minutes to half an hour they were worried they wouldn't be able to fill the half hour so they were asking the affiliate's to keep your eye on the stories and the first time i appeared on halley brinkley one of the flaw the melinda's fell off the bar of the circus in omaha and diet and one of the photographers credit picture and i was on the air with it. >> with so many networks now available when so many different ways of getting information,
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isn't the news still relevant? >> quickly found out a lot into bloomberg last night joining charlie rose coming and i like going over there and bloomberg has got a big stage and no more with retial and the internet and television and a lot of stuff going on and i said if i were starting over i would probably look at something like bloomberg to go to work for. doesn't mean i would give up on nbc because we have a lot of platforms as well. but all of my friends, my contemporaries will answer the business thought i was crazy because they were going to all school. i was of degeneration you get a job and you'd stay there forever. on was a little more of interest. i thought maybe i could get the network to pay for me to see the world, and i realized i over rest on that account. i see more than i used to but it was very exciting the idea that you could get on a plane and fly somewhere. i went from omaha to atlanta
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right at the height of the civil rights movement and that's when in bct of bands and the to california. >> apply that time news comes to anchor it is old news now. it's already been on the huffingtonpost.com. it's already been in so many different places. estimate changes. peter anbar of grumet as correspondents. we wanted to be reporters. now we find ourselves where fortuitously for all the fuss that signal the change said the satellites made it possible for us to incur for anywhere in the world. we got on their planes and flew to the philippines and to elon marcos for example, a long way to go but it was a very exciting story. we were in china. 1989. >> you found yourself by chance in berlin. >> i was in berlin not entirely by chance but i thought i was a very good story. i won the lottery.
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i was the only one that was there that night and i was laughing about the theater because i like the outdoors and i didn't have a really formal word pro so i tend to wear my patagonian jackets when i go on the road and i have this kind of worn out a jacket and i was going around there the eiffel wall was coming down and i thought this is going to be around for a long time. one of your correspondence had a really good looking top coat i treated jackets with him so i showed up in this very handsome top coat. simic bring me because i watch that moment of you at the berlin wall. bring us back to what was like. there were a few miles stones that were tremendous. watergate, the berlin wall and reporting des moines 11. and if a west one of course probably must be one of the most difficult moments to report. if you can bring us back to what it felt like in those three
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stories. >> to put it quickly in the respective people say to me is that the biggest store you ever reported? i said it is the most difficult day that came after that. it's the biggest story of our lifetime is the fall of the soviet union and the redefinition of communism and the rise of communism and that is still playing out. that was an enormous seismic event in history, and it lowered the threshold of the chances of the nuclear exchange between the two superpowers we saw in the other area. so when i got to berlin the day before the wall came down because there wasn't much going on here and they were trying to get out of berlin in czechoslovakia and other places racing around we have more access than we had ever had before to report on the other side and then later in the
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afternoon on that thursday the propaganda chief for the east was at a news conference in new was a typical bureaucratic news conference setting of all these questions i was exhausted because i had been up most of the time since i have left on tuesday at noon and then all of a sudden someone handed a piece of paper and he said he read the paper and he said the bureau has decided presidents kim exit and return through any of the gates and will it was like hearing this come from mars the people in the room couldn't believe what they were hearing. thank you very much and they left the state. i had an appointment with them it turns out right after the news conference, as we went upstairs and got the camera in place and said just pulled a piece of paper out again and read it to be against imports
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talk about what it means. he read it again and i said that means residents of your country, citizens can lead any time they want to through the wall. he said yes that's what it means. i ran downstairs and some of my print colleagues from the long island is dippers and they were -- the wall is down. it's coming to happen. so we raised back to the wall to the gate at the checkpoint charlie. the guard had given a terrible time going in and out for the last two days standing there and he kind of let us leave through and i stopped and i said to you know what happened? he had been watching television and i said what do you think's he said i'm not paid to think. she went on his way that might expect people had come from the west and they were cheering on
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from people who were uncertain whether they should get over the wall or not. one of my cameramen had been yet another gate and he had the first footage of people coming to double it and they poured over the top of the gates. it was the most exciting single event to know that i was the only when there. everybody else was back in the studio in new york covering it and i kept thinking it to myself don't screw this up. this is a big deal. >> your kids see something about watergate and reporting at that moment? what would be like -- >> no, watergate. >> it would be much different today. people would be making judgments 24/7 into the white house press corps i look back on that as a
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model of tempered reporting. we reported what we knew. we had suspicions have and things kept unraveling as we went along but no one went on the air and said he's guilty and there is no way around it or we didn't have a lot of people debating each other on the air. moreover as a practical matter, as a reporter when i finished with the evening news at 7:00 at night i could go work the phones to get ready for the today show the next morning i didn't have to go on msnbc and talk to chris, o'reilly, rachel or someone merriam speculate. i was going to do the work of a reporter so when i got on the today show the next morning i had a new sources and information and new ideas. it was a real constitutional crisis. the presidency was safe, the country was divided but what i always remembered about that i was there when the supreme court decision came down that they would have to give up the tapes
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and everybody knew that it was over at that point and what on a remember about it is once the tapes came out this country even the last defenders of richard nixon said he broke the law. he's got to go. the percentage to themselves or it was an unspoken but everybody knew i had been courting some republican senators during most of that year, defenders of the president and they were conservative republicans and one of them called the at about 6:00 at night the tapes came out and he said tom, you've been very patient with me. he said its 03 we are coming to tell him that and the white house told them not to come to the president has made a decision to read it is a very dramatic time. tanks dillinger lewis treats. there was no military coup within the time. people didn't hang on at the white house. i remember about two days after
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the dinsmoor in one of the white house staffers the kingdome hallway to get something and burst into tears and i said what's wrong? she said the told me to get the president's papers and i don't know which president they were talking about how to read president ford or president nixon but we got through that transition. >> i'm wondering to things. first dhaka, when a new look back, any regrets, any stories you feel you could have told better come any stories you feel you withheld and wished that you had told? >> i didn't go to vietnam and i wasn't the reporter for nbc and they didn't send very many reporters the simplest the single people. i covered the war home is often described it and that was a big piece of what was going on but i was in there so i regret that.
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most people say something to regret doing all the offensive them in my life. a story that we could have told better -- >> most differently toward better you feel you didn't tell? >> i think the signs were there for this economic downturn by don't think we did a very good job i write about this in the book about the night the millennial change from new year's eve, 1999 levels was singing this was likely to happen. the rigidity pressing piece about how it overheated the market was and what could happen but we were worried about yankee's. we didn't see 9/11 coming. the spring before the attacks on 9/11 i had gone down to see the director of the fbi because i
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was working on computer heat, a story about these socks croesus into bigots it is a very well-organized computers to spread hate some people were murdered as a result of their actions and i wanted the fbi to cooperate with us on the documentary about how they solved hate crimes on the computer. they said that's not high on our list of priorities. you want to be looking at terrorism. i will never forget that. that was march before the 9/11 attacks and i walked out with my colleague and friend who was the president of nbc news, and we kind of talk about that and he said maybe we should look at that but a kind of faded away and then 9/11 happened. >> how do these fade away? >> it faded away because -- and this is part of what is going on now. it wasn't tangible even though
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we had the attacks on the towers in tanzania and kenya we all thought they would not come here. i think part of the problem at the moment in this country is you can't touch and feel and smell or feel the hot wind of the debt that we are in this country, so people can put it out of their mind. it's not legal for them any way. you can talk all you want about what it's going to cost your children and grandchildren but because it is a tangible, it's more of an abstract i don't think it has the same impact. >> in closing you write about the state of journalism today, and you say this about the investigative journalism, without investigative journalism what what we know about the people's revolt in egypt or long before that of watergate? the silent spring, the iran contra, trademark and a square, war come islamic range from a
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nuclear proliferation of peace, cullom mehdi plaques to our ally unwelcoming on this very stage edward morris whose speech you gave at berkeley the commencement speech he says this. i have often wondered why we need the phrase investigative journalism. isn't all journalism supposed to be investigated? isn't journalism without an investigative element little more than a gossip? isn't there enough gossypol already? >> i don't disagree with him. i've often said the same thing. it's redundant in my judgment that there are other forms, there's entertainment journalism and i tell my friends in the print business when they complain that they see on television by co que i want you to go to the press tomorrow and on to the streets with only the front page no sports news coming across proposal, no cartoons, no
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entertainment guides, just the front page, just the eve your spinach, folks, and we will see how successful you are so journalism and is a broad spectrum. i do believe that the culture of journalism will survive all of these changes and in what is delivered. yes, absolutely. people will have a constant and what kind of what is going on in their lives. walter isaacson who's written a wonderful book about steve jobs and i were talking yesterday about the publishing business and he said something i haven't thought about. he said ali bayh and print copies of books because i know they will survive and i want my children and grandchildren to see them in print forever. i don't know what happens to the electronic books that i buy. why be able to retrieve those, like the attention of the archival way of those books, so i think that is what is next. morris by the way, talk about him in the book of the contracts of robert mcnamara, he's a brilliant documentarian it is a
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national treasure quite honestly. >> thank you after a much. [applause] >> thank you. [applause] >> after 90 minutes they will be impatient. >> a couple of good questions. >> i hope to have answers. no questions? i think we have been at this for 90 minutes so you've probably heard everything need to hear
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from me. coed. >> thank you so much for being year and for sharing your work that was very inspiring. i would particularly interested in your description of the collaborative environment in which you were raised professionally the mentors and as someone here who is not experiencing the same kind of workplace more of the competition among entry-level workers and among the senior workers and entry-level workers and wondering if you can speak to your opinion on that and how this would move away from a cooperative workplace to a competitive workplace and what effect does that have on the workplace and productivity of all of us? >> de want to repeat that question? >> can you make it short? on the cooperative -- >> cooperative workplace.
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>> and specifically you're inspiring mentors and where do they go in the workplace today? are they still there? am i not finding them year? >> i'm not sure that i can answer that. i think they are still here. i think it still access. but what i think is that the information overload and what we see on the screen all day every day has so many parts to it it's hard to pull stuff out. so i don't think that we make the same kind of assessment or inventory that we once did. life was a lot easier at one point in terms of choices we had to make yet we knew what they were going to be. that is not so true anymore. >> thank you. >> if you could leave your question is very tight. [laughter]
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>> good to see you. bill mcgovern, a print journalist, and i spent some years both attended and covering conflicts of print journalists. the newspaper association of america and talking about how they have to find new ways to reach young people at some point there is a limited. can you recommend a way for the news industry to get together with the educational system to some help revive the gene for public affairs that seems to have somehow slipped out of the bloodstream? >> there was an internal debate about whether or not we should be trying to proactively encourage people. estimate this to your industry and the news industry can only do so much. spinet it wasn't to be protected agent for getting people
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interested in public affairs. i think our job is covering the news and raise hell. that's what i think. and other institutions after them get involved in getting people more involved in public affairs. what i do think is that if you are reasonably nimble on the internet now, you can find almost any kind of organization and you want including those that will pull he went to public policy discussions and mchugh a part of a kind of cyber group. part of the dilemma at the moment it is it is like drinking from a fire hydrant. there are so many choices out there and bill clinton talked about the need to have a place where you can kind of get a test for reliable information. he says the society is atomized by all this information that's going on. so i think we just have to commit to what we are doing and make sure that the public discourse is engaging in that people understand that it has
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relevance to their lives. >> we are going to take one more question. go ahead. >> thank you so much for coming. what is your advice for young and journalist looking for an inspiring story? >> my advice is to study medicine. [laughter] think about becoming a doctor. my advice is that obviously you have to get used to the new instrumentation and it will the fed is moving at a direction there will always be a place for someone who can write, someone who can express themselves coherently and explain complex issues in ways people can take away something that is meaningful and useful to them whether it comes off the internet or printed page or internet. we have too much now of what i call the school can journalism, you've got everyone talking with their hands all the time and it's kind of improvisational.
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the well constructed sentence is important over the air on the printed page or on the internet. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. [applause] >> here's a short author interview from the c-span campaign 2012 bus as it travels the country. >> karen, political women in american democracy how did you decide which essays to include in this work? >> mike coeditors and i organized the grant from the annenberg foundation project on american democracy at the university of notre dame that we
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would convene by our estimation the best scholars on women in the politics in the u.s. only in the u.s. but the scholars who are working on the u.s. women in politics and so we brought together a range of people on the research that we knew well and convened for the conference at no third miller came after which the chapters of the books and had some commentary about it and discussion and put it together as a collection at cambridge university published in 2008. describe the role of the women in this book. >> there is a general emphasis on the books until the -- let me tell you first we are not looking at the public policy. we are not looking at women in the executive because even in 2008 there were few women in the executives and not yet a major female candidate for the nomination for president of the major political party in the
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united states the women in the executive level meant to support a good discussion and finally we didn't address the judiciary so what did we address? we looked at the behavior of the women as voters and candidates for the office both state and national office, being given the political parties, the leader of the women once elected to the national office. we also have huge factors that will get the gendered nature of u.s. political the institutions as well as u.s. politics in the context of comparative politics that is what does the situation look like in the u.s. compared to the rest of the world? it isn't so pleasant actually. we have one of the least advantageous electoral systems and the national for women which is a single member of pluralities systems with some modification to the electoral college we also have only two major political parties which
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are in formal in their internal construction, have no clear formal instructions for becoming a candidate, offered very little structural means by which women can work the party statistic to increase the candidacy so there are lots of disadvantages they have in the united states in achieving the elective office. >> so in relation to the political party, as a woman voter, what are the findings related to the encouraging participation directly related to women? >> women in politics, they meet when in the relevant demographic categories of first there are more women than men in the u.s. citizenry in voting electrets. second, women have slightly higher registration rates than men and women turn out in highly vv to slightly higher percentages and the larger absolute number of women, and with women heighten the turnout makes for a big electoral impact
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women are disproportionately democratic aide this is true across all age groups and it's also true across all racial groups racial and ethnic groups. women still have a slight preference so when we come into an election issues that attract women are very important. women are more likely than men to vote for the press to the candidate. the gap has been between the two percentage points to five percentage points depending upon the polls you look at but nonetheless there is the democratic advantage for the democratic party in general because women the absolute numbers that turnout for the democratic party. the issues that seem to mobilize women and attract the vote have to do with social welfare issues
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to a certain extent the morality issues but omni's the women very in very different directions on issues like same-sex marriage. women are much less opposed to that than men for example, not by a huge margin but nonetheless there's a difference. women are more concerned with the foreign policy security issues and the that can have an impact on the women's vote and finally women are more concerned on things like health care, unemployment, the state of the economy, education. >> a woman candidate for president coming into the campaign to use the those preferences changing in 2012? were based on your research do you think they will largely remain the same? >> i see no one coming in the candidate 2012. there are only two of them on the list that i know of, sarah palin who is and declared and michele bachman who is doing very poorly now in their early returns or the or the results in
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the republican party debate it in the polling numbers for her i don't see either of them being the candidate for the republican party and on the democratic side of the things equal, the current president, barack obama, will be the party candidate so that will foreclose any opportunity for a woman not party to come forward so i see no woman for presidential candidate for 2012. what we do say, however, is that some polling data and the most recent life seem from 2008 coming very early in 2008 in the presidential primary about 87% of americans say they would vote for a qualified woman regardless of sex they would be as willing to vote for a woman as to vote for a man of. americans are more likely to vote for someone that is african-american or someone that is jewish for president than they are for a woman and i think
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that number is slightly lower than has been in the previous results because in 2008 there was a clear potential female candidate into the was hillary clinton and democratic side who ultimately failed to win the nomination. >> what are the recommendations for women in that position and then in the electoral position running for office? >> we don't turn to them specifically but we look at the women candidacy for the lower office in a couple recommendations. the recommendations for women let me make clear we only need about 4,000 women nationwide to contest and winning elections to have equitable representation in the senate and in the house and there are not many elective office is that the legislative level at least there require that we need a million qualified women. i think we can find some 4,000,
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3500 qualified women to run so that's on the issue. the problem is the political parties and the unavailability of access to candidacies both for the incumbency as we do 83% of congress consisting of men and most of them are incumbents very difficult for opening new candidates whether or not the candidates are women support it has to do with the party's willingness to have sea to members of congress to step down willing to support the women challenging them within their own party's willingness to recruit women for office right now the so-called big money people the republicans are trying to recruit a governor christie from new jersey and to the presidential nomination on the republican side but they are women that might be recruited their field of vendors on the
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republican side. at this point my argument is it is not a problem with women it is of the parties the republican party. women are represented within the democratic party by the one s true kofi marchant everywhere by republicans. 64. >> you're welcome. >> de sunnistan campaign 2012 bus visits communities across the country to follow the truffle's this set www.c-span.org/bus.

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