i had to look up gimlets in the dictionary when i got that review. i thought it was like a trained. i think it's sharp. i had to look at the derivation of it, make middle english or something. you should tell that to the guy who wrote the blog post. he called me and. but that's a whole other story. said thank you all very much for coming out. this is a real pleasure to speak in renovate crowd of readers and crowd are firm and supporters. as i could tell you that have, worried that the idea to do this. and the real origin of the book was when i was in college. i spent my junior year arrived, got in the act and the and i wanted to be like them next kenneth rana and so i went to london and i studied shakespeare and i fell head over here is another shakespeare. when i came back, i thought, i
can do this. i can make a living. i felt more alive than i was speaking this language than anything else in my place. i thought, what a great way to make a living, and be shakespearean actor. so what i did was auditioned for a renaissance fair and links to pennsylvania and attacked casts. i was so excited. i got cast in romeo and romeo and juliet. but to the renaissance fair in the first things they are them is doubly to impose and cod piece so excited and found out about the moment that romeo and juliet had been shrunk to half an hour. who's the truncated version, the greatest hits of romeo and juliet. that wasn't quite the rac for the national theater it experienced this wonderful year monday. at the renaissance fair, which you do is inhabit a character and talk to people at the can
elizabethan. i didn't know is getting into any of this, but i was. i was always amazed, always entreat i see people show up to the fair, dressed as elizabethans. there were nights in shining armor, ladies addresses and there was thunder, why are they doing that? i'm getting paid $150 a week to dress up as elizabethans and they're doing it voluntarily. it always struck me as something curious. what is it about dressing up as an historical figure, and historical characters but it goes to people? i was under, what is the attraction of my why specifically are people attracted to a certain moment in time? they were dressing up as romans, french and indian war reenactors. there were dressing up as elizabethans. what about a moment in time to
check status? where some people attracted to a moment in time? someone of the few people in the united states eca eca grew up in a log cabin, which is true. i grew up in the log cabin built in 1740 next to amish people. i really think i'm one of the few people who can say that. i never really thought anything of this. this is just my normal life. i'm growing up in this house with crooked floorboards instead my senate mouth at times and it's mildewy and the people down the street have no electricity. this is the 1970s, 1980s, but i didn't think anything of it. i wanted to go to the big city. i wanted to be an actor. i wanted to see tall buildings and glass skyscrapers and have heard exciting night. i went to new york and then move to los angeles in 2003. one of the things about moving to l.a. from the east coast to
near 30 years old is that all is that all of the sudden you feel. the forest from the east coast sort of traditional pregame and i happen to me when it came out here. i was looking the part of the city that felt very new, dated back to 1950s. and i felt very detached all of a sudden. that thing that i took for granted growing up in a log cabin, living next to amish people et cetera, et cetera. so one day i was in the shower, lou fain and my wife burst into the bathroom and says out of nowhere, if you could go back to college right now and nature in any subject, what would it be? i'm like that's a good question actually come over but do? and burst out history. even as i said it, i didn't quite put all the pieces together.
i didn't quite understand what it was, but i felt what was missing in my life, but i needed to learn about the past and this is somehow make me a better person and citizen. and so, not that long afterwards we went down to old fort macarthur. it is an old four and in early july, actually last weekend, two weekends ago they hold what is called a timeline event. a timeline event or reenactors small time periods show up, can't but feel for her, set up their tents, show weapons, tressa and uniforms and talk about their particular moment in time. so my wife and i went tenacious amazed because i didn't know the reenactment was so broad. i didn't know that people dressed up as romans at that time or that there were caliphs out there, or that there were
people dressed up as taking penalties of their other different time periods. and when i was there, i noticed one particular group does not dare. so when i went home, i started googling and is on my bed with my laptop propped up on my knees and i typed, not steve reenactment into google. i got as far as not steve reid and the predictive search you did for your results. people do this. and so on the internet to share their hobby with the world. after more searching i discovered this website called drive on stalingrad.com. this was the website for an upcoming reenactment. it was a fascinating website. they had all the rules, photos and i couldn't tell if the photos were real or staged. they were that good.
and so i sent them an e-mail. i said hey, that the message list. i'm a writer guy, can i play along? they said sure. so that is the first chapter. it's called sleepless and stalingrad because i was sleepless the entire time. i don't know if any of you been to the plains of colorado. there's nothing there. i saw the entire time as trina bird. it's very flat and it's very cold. i was there in october and for those of you know anything about stalingrad and this battle, this is the most horrific of all time. estimates of between one and 2 million who died over two months. stalin was doing anything he could and they were trying to advance and hate each other's guts in his bloody and awful people were breathing and clinging to metal and it was just horrible.
it's terrible, so these guys thought it was a fun weekend. so we did a forced march. i was dressed as a chairman. my name is schroeder, so they're comfortable. i look at one point and size small on my right pocket. interesting. i've never been through basic training, never served in our military. i had the time weighed 20 pounds more than a way now. i was not in shape to do this and i had no idea what it is getting myself into. and so we made about six miles. the plan was never going to stop and spend the night and this shattered one-room schoolhouse that was high plains. the temperature was dropping past. the night before 20 degrees and we didn't have sleeping bags because we were going to be authentic. i hadn't slept from a mixture of
being in the presence of 70, 90 snoring fighting men and project temperatures i didn't put the link. and so at this point in the story i have not slept in 36 hours. the sun has set. i am lying in the middle of this one-room schoolhouse, next to a swept up pile of terpenes. i miss my wife. i think at the time i decided i would never complain about another thing as long as i live and i think i've pretty much held to dices them because really nothing could do worse than this. so what happens is i am lying in their and all of a sudden a rancher comes home. he has no idea that this is happening on or near his property. comes home on a friday night and is tracked, sees a bunch of
nazis coming home, hanging out, have some questions. so voice in the darkness comes back to the president. i wonder if i'd fallen asleep, if i was being summoned for guard duty. and some shadowy figures shined a flashlight in my face are your thoughts go, guys he said. now. it was going on i asked? rising slowly. a guy outside claims he has a lease on this schoolhouse and a space. a handful of groggy soldiers gathered their belongings, sold rifles, tarps, a pickup truck with either the middle of the night far from the schoolhouse. highbeams eliminating district a stretcher and here to eternity. this one's a nazis scurried about, moving supplies can affiliating critters they took for shelter.
steam from the field kitchin wafted into the air and take plumes. i sniffed around for information, but it is hard to gather. apparently the child had gotten approval, but a not all the neighbors knew about it, so when i'm on informed neighbor saw a 90 nazis saw the data trap i chaired. he freaked out. i dumped my supplies next my supplies and excerpted some guys were filling in and asked what was up, if they heard any dates, but they hadn't. one of them come ajo way guide shrugged his shoulders. this happens at the hobby. it's thick lipped friend bundled in a headscarf was livid. people usually look at us and think that's cool this guy, he gestured at the park pickup, but
if you have to ruin everything? over over 10 the truth came out about whether rancher was so irked. turns out he didn't have a lease, but he visited vietnam vet with three bullet holes in his chest to prevent and he did not think nazis reenacts that was cool. when i shoot to educate people instead he said from the safety of his truck. the air was tense and i put the odds he was carrying a gun at roughly 100% and the chances ammunition misplaying like ours at approximately zero. for sophisticated weaponry after one brought to cowboys and indians, this is the first real danger we face all day. at one point what you strapping on the congo, one of the nazis the nose to nose, really got up in his grill. i didn't help matters. soon to other pickup trucks, friends of the rancher arrived and parked 50 feet away to nearby crossroads with headlights shining to
motorcycling, it was a passive aggressive posture that bella, don't mess with colorado. one fair-haired hitler youth couldn't have been more than 20 muttered, link to some redneck to ruin it for everybody. while the standoff continued candidate rumor mill churns, these outlets can't hold. would have been there for the night, et cetera, et cetera. it didn't take long for morale to disintegrate. at one point i overheard a group of guys from texas bemoaning the long walks and little battle. a couple members of the squad had dropped out and the rest are now considering throwing in the travel. too much walking, not in a shooting fund said. when one utters the word motel, i pounced on him. please take me with you. by squad are you and he asked? i said i couldn't remember its name. in a panic i blurted out california. that's not a squad named.
please i beg you, i can't feel my toes anymore. another hour or two i it may be the last german casualty of the eastern front. one other guy who quit had hitched a ride to base camp. now he was treacher and in a pickup truck to take the rest of the deserters. albright one of them said taking pity come and meet me at the crossroads in 15 minutes. okay, great. thank you so much. my teeth are so cold i could barely form the words. here come the cops, a guy in a sergeant schultz on the site. i turned to see a squad car pull up on a silent and bypass, the rancher had dialed 9-1-1. the car stopped in front of the schoolhouse, grill to grow up to pick, headlight beaming bright. it all man and a shares jacket got up, pulled star pinned to his chest. he started chewing the fat with
one of the nazis, but couldn't you they were saying. they chatted because what happens as a minor infraction like riding a bike on a side pocket looks like things were resolved. it looks like the reenactment would continue. then in the distance, we all heard a low rumble. it sounded like one of those rattle traps, loud, really loud. quickly getting really louder. the men immediately recognized what it was. at the this whole telegraph disbelief. it was the russians. last night they relaunching a surprise attack. nobody had told them there is a time bound on the field. like lightning, two russian 64 by four light armored vehicles charged over a small hill pedal to the metal.
before anyone had a chance to flag him down, they were opening fire, versus claims that flames that nerves split psychomotor race for real dragon. the concussion was strengthening , trailer desecrate them that it's good vehicle behind firing as well. the driver of the first vehicle never saw the flailing germans. he spent all his rants in taurus in the darkness of the high desert. a crowd of panicked jurgens ran toward second vehicle waving arms and the whistling and yelling stop, stop firing, cut it out, knock it off. vehicle number two speeding ahead, three for planes until finally ground to a halt when almost ran over a test or reenactor. the dark sky lit up with flashing red lights. it was the cops. he turned his patrol lights on in his eyes are bugging of his
head. it scared the shabbat of me he said. intended side of a squad car reaching for who knows what. and i don't carry blanks. once the dust had settled that runs hearts resumed their normal rhythm, but can't turn back to the nazis he was talking to. did they have an fours and in world war i he asked referencing the guns. he looked in disbelief and somewhat incredulously replied, world war ii. i didn't stick around long enough to see how things ended at the truck at texas tech survived my designated corner i hopped in his bed with half the nuts and. i braced myself as we sped away, had she ever to avoid the arctic wind blowing over the roof. i prayed none of the remaining nazis but shoot as shirkers meant that what we've been warned, but the bullets came.
the mood in the truck was grand. a heavy set guy with his back against the cap muttered, i was looking forward to this for five months. made sure everything is authentic for this. nobody bothered to respond. [applause] feel free to applaud. after that i went to florida and reenacted a civil war because it was warmer. i wish i had better motivation. i thought maybe this would be a good time. i plan to read a little more and i know i do have limited time in the dark knight opens tonight and i know you'll want to get there. i don't even know the name. but does anyone have any questions now about the book?
those of you who read it about historical reenactment or just why i'm crazy. yes, front row. [inaudible] >> what i learned about myself? >> what did i learn about myself, that's a great question. i'll say this, that one of the things i learned by the end of it is said that pride frankly. by doing this, i've realized a couple things. i'm not a soldier at all. i am 40 years old and in the past that thank goodness. i've been working on this op-ed recently about four and about soldiers and the draft is more serious than this book and i realize i am none of those things. i would be a terrible -- i would be a liability to troops in
battle. seriously, i meant a vietnam vet recently and i said how is your -- to be changed at all since the war? he said yeah, i wish we fought with an all volunteer army and didn't have the draft because those guys were useless. it is interesting. we hear the draft of something civilians don't want, but it's also the military doesn't want it to. this is an interesting debate going on right now. i thought that was really interesting he said that because i thought how i would actually be. i hate to say this, but i don't know if i could live frankly by doing this, by being a soldier. i don't think i have the fortitude for it. all attorneys your other point, the answer to your question when i read -- if i can read another part because what i learned about history is his pride in
wearing live and that is so important when you're studying history to care very deeply about the place where you live because we all live here. for all citizens of los angeles number we know about the place you live, the marburg but did an better care we of it. those are some things i learned a lot more. those are two things that stood out for me because that's the military and civilian thing. in the book is not just about military reenactment. i went to cover the hobby from 360 degrees i did just in bed with people battling. i did civilian reenactment because it is important to include those. i focused mostly on hobby is, people not getting paid. they are volunteering. if they're not people hired by parks, not historic interpreters. there's a difference between those people at colonial williamsburg getting dressed up and paid. i focused on people investing time and energy and money in this hobby.
any other questions? yes. >> what made you think about make and use reenactment into a hook? >> as opposed to something else? as the movie? a tv show or scrape. >> i have no talent for those things. i find that hard to collaborate people, which does our collaborative mediums. the idea of making a film or documentary film or a television show without form and is talking to me. this was daunting enough, but it was just me in the paper. to have a proven organizational skills that she need to pull off something like that is beyond my capability and afraid. i've always liked being an
actor, being collaborative, but it was said to the responsibility producers underwrite as in those people brought to it. in terms of the narrative script, it has to be real for me. it has to be a portrait of real people doing it. i just felt like the book was the best medium for that. i saw in other hands go up. yes, kerry. >> what did you find this the most common motivation for the actual reenactors? what was theirs, why did they do it? >> that's a great question and a hard one to answer. one thing pretty much said they all have in common despite their political differences and there are very right wing people doing this in very left wing and people attracted to major problem in people reenacting the vietnam war, chapter eight at reenacted vietnam war.
they all believe in the second amendment. last night [laughter] i liked hearing arguments on the left and the right, that they were all pretty much believers, but if they fire a weapon or not, they'll be much stood. in terms of motivation, so many different reasons why. with a guy named rick fox who was in a heavy metal hair band called wasp, he dresses up as a wing to start from pole and from the 17th 17th century and these polish and these kind of like a way of honoring poland in a good positive way. these were not polish jokes. these are really astoundingly flamboyantly dressed, really incredible cauvery men from the 17th century.
other reasons, people getting away from modern life is another big reason. and then fascination with military. different time periods attractive for people. if people reenact a strong military, they are inclined that way and often that are reservists or soldiers themselves, so they're fascination with rome, germans of world war ii, the fairmont. you know, and other -- certainly the civil war is the most popular. it's very hard to estimate these numbers, but about 50,000 people reenact the civil war and people in the south to for different reasons than people in the north or you cannot hear the west. so it's a really hard in their -- it's hard to sinnott says. yes, connie.
>> was a particular group more fanatical than the rest? and more committed about doing that reenactment? >> recently which you have with historical reenact that does a couple different ways in which things are reenacted. there are private events and there are public event. typically the public events are ones that have happened on american soil. and those reenact this will actually happen at the battle site themselves. for example, the french and indian war at niagara, a french indian war battle state in upstate new york. at the other hand i did a roman reenactment and roamed habit here. kind of happening now, but it didn't happen here, so those quote for and if you can call them that caught reenactments will have been typically unsorted private property because there is no site.
those reenactments tend to be, i found, the more fanatical and that there is no audience, so you are not just a purchase bank, but also the audience member. so the way in which is structured is very much for you to gain experience at the mayor. the reaction and izzy. rash. this is that i was their moment. i've really got hit with a rock from a trebuchet i oran aero or someone hit me with their pila. is that 1066. that happened mostly in those situations because there were people out there trust the white house today, reminding me where i was. and really it doesn't take long. i was talking to someone last week about the stanford experiment, this thing that
happened for they had card and prisoners and i believe it had and, correct me if i'm wrong, it was stanford's doing, intellectual, bright coming down, likely affluent kid, privilege kids get to go to stanford and smart and all this good stuff within three days of guard were beating the out of the prisoners. they relate that would never happen. they put them in that situation and it happened. the longer you were immersed in these worlds, the easier it is to kind of forget where you are. that definitely happened to me in a number of occasions. those were the ones produce fanatical because it was like no, we're going to eat only the food they ate. mediterranean cuisine hasn't changed. [applause] salami, grapes, wine, perfect,
so much better than our time. last night somebody else had a question over here. >> what is the easiest aspect of writing the book and what were the more difficult aspects? >> i found nothing easy. no one teaches you how to write 87,000 word -- 87,430 aboard boat. the longest thing i've ever written was 2000 words, so i'm hoping it's going to be accepted in a magazine and it did work in accepts in this chat chair. it was like i have to regret my whole book down because you go back and that's terrible, who wrote. it was a learning process for me. it was a learning process. i hate to sound pretentious, but it takes gold teen writing nonfiction. you have your found material and then henry morro shape in one
way and some other sculptor will another way, so this is my stand, right? i found about material and formed it into this. i often found one of the hardest things to do was like what do i leave out bikes descriptive than 400,000 words, 12 volumes, remembered of things past. it could've been awful. by the way, i wrote my thesis on it, which is a whole another story. so it was hard to figure a way to keep what to keep out. i was writing it as i was doing it as well, so that first experience i didn't have a lot else to compare it to. so as i was learning, i would start cutting staff from earlier chat tears because i was trying to fit that in later. adults like to say anyone here who is a writer or a separate try to read first interstate, i still to this day say find the same place to go every morning
at 8:00 a.m. and write. unlike that's ridiculous. i wrote this book everywhere. pizza joints on my lunch break, public transportation, numerous hotels in las vegas. don't ask. i was out there on work. i was that close alliance in las vegas -- close the blinds in las vegas. i found writing to be really, really hard. if anyone here who is a writer i hope that you two. i just find it really difficult yet i ended up in the book came out, i went through it all out loud and i really hope he. any place that felt clunky to cut as i wanted it to be companionable. any other questions?
[inaudible] >> canoe, editor at having to street press. she asked if i have an audio version. no unfortunately. >> coming soon? >> i hope so. >> it would be interesting for you to read it. i think i would enjoy it in audible form. >> yeah, thank you. >> anyone else agree, raise your hand. any other questions? yes, david. >> to any reenact and subscripts >> that's a great question. >> thank you very much. >> now, although the roman reenactment in this tiny town in
arkansas, 385, the suitability for a 6000 square foot replica of distillery with four watchtowers on a note with this compound and there was a cult up on the hill is just mind blowing that day to this new radio series seriously. i will see this. there wasn't dialogue, but i read the book that i had no idea what was going on when i was there. not a clue. i want in the world and people were speaking half latin and southern accents. it's like i can even understand latin and jessica standard american accent. so no, they had it very clearly devise this whole scenario, much more so than some of the other events. this felt very scripted
commendably script did. moments where people come in in the late julius, i've killed the kells. there was one moment, very funny moment where i was by attends, 16 issues a worse scandal. as trying time i tie see an altogether. i was by myself in the middle of the fort and no one else was around in the sky, this room and came up another century and were something like that and was like i've killed the kells and eight present you with his clothing. and i was like there's nobody around. [laughter] they don't even know i'm in here. i was like so scripted in some regards, yet, but i don't know if they had rehearsed it or what. but i was like going away. it's like i'm an actor. i do a foreign audience.
they become the audience themselves. that was the one where he put that together that that was the object is. or as a participant in the audience member at the same time. very bizarre. he read the book and contacted me to my facebook friends. it's like i told that tell. i was like yeah you did. fastmac i saw one other hand go up. [inaudible] >> can you talk about that some of the interpersonal politics are politics between groups because that's something we've talked about that fascinates me. >> this is a roman by the way, and professor at loyola. that's a great question. a lot of the groups do have very differing opinions because this is a hobby. nobody is getting paid.
everybody's doing it voluntarily and there's lot of time that mintz and you sort of need almost like peter company of its say. you need a bill of the dictator to say look, the romans, probably 25 lesions or so of united states, that is what they're called in their regional. what you have there are people who want to do it for different reasons. they are researching things and finding out things and correcting each other, so there can be this very contentious that i was than a few yahoo! message boards and it cds flinging back and forth, just calling each other out on stuff. i think in the end is probably good to have that sort of dialogue. it can probably a road some of the groups, but just because you're into this enhancement is does that mean you're all going to agree on how it should be interpreted or what the object is of the group phase.
the little side note about rome is the roman group, leach and six i worked with here, intellectuals, professors. another member is a rare coin dealer, in the south, they are legion, one of the legions there, buried at the plate oriented will perform sort of passion plays at local churches or so depending what region, you must find people are attracted to a particular moment in time for different regions. out here i didn't find the religious aspect, but certainly in the south there beside us that with roman particular. any other questions? gas. >> or any other countries doing this? >> yeah, definitely europe.
i would just say sort of the west. it's a western phenomenon. the only evidence of any eastern country doing reenact minces japan and i am not aware. typically if you were military power or if you were an imperial power, a global power at one point or another at least a regional power, war doesn't have the connotations it might have been countries that have been defeated tennessee don't typically find in other countries that benefit comes to war. people are too keen of an interest in reliving it as a hobby. but it's definitely a western phenomenon. in england is quite popular. they have a much deeper history than we have in american civil war rematch, believe it or not,
it's very, very popular in england. i think it's actually the most popular reenactment, believe it or not. yes. >> any reason for his? is afghanistan being reenacted? >> now, there are people collecting because you kind of have reenactments and then living history and living history is for lack of a better free show and tell, where people will kind of put out uniforms and weapons status and keep are starting to collect because some of the interest is that was the uniform from 2004 and that's not the uniform. the camouflage is changed or what have you. but the most recent war that has any real numbers has been nominated reenacts fat, which was by far the most disturbing reenactment. i did that on private property in the middle of virginia and
there is some stuff that happened there that was quite disturbing for me. should i -- yeah, why don't i read. scheuer, of course. by the end of the book, to answer your question again, one of the things i learned was that it pride, pride in the place where you live. along the way a lot of doctors asked if i become a reactor. like is the something you'll stick with? i didn't really think that it would. i was fascinated by the hobby and had a great time doing it and it was this crazy adventure, but i didn't together continue. that is to to ask myself, what would i do? book with the choices i would make? in some regards this as a chance to editorialize i hope this last chapter sort of reveals not a sense of humor, but also my
civic pride and i wanted to do something about the place where you live. that's a little difficult in los angeles because the history isn't that long and it's not all that apparent. we've peeved over a lot of history here. so i decided that i was going to do something and that was to walk between the two los angeles missions dressed as a spanish friar. i wants wanted to do something civilian, something that would ambush history, these guys do something ambush history, we dressed up and going public and make people go, what fat guy doing? and look into a double take and wonder and then you can say i knew where this is what was happening right here 200 years ago. the first order of business was to map my route. spanish friars were on a chair between missions included el
camino real with the kings highway. i would've loved to vote in their footsteps, but in four shows today many parts if a 10 lane 101 freeway. seeing as i walk in on the one-to-one result in death provided that any educated men of david duke, i let mapquest route my journey. one day open my lap top, insert the address is increased to 26.7-mile path of exact worth western san gabriel through familiar terrain, and the neighborhoods and communities about how broke him a century now pasadena committee full for, glendale, burbank and the sun valley and pacoima. exempt into closer of what lay in its root and commercial districts, freeway overpasses, airports, schools and rec centers, busy six lane boulevards inch streets of affluent suburbs here to my surprise i saw it pass with
300 feet of my apartment. for nearly seven years i lived right in the middle of history and didn't know it. once i determined the course they set about planning logistics, which were virtually impossible to replicate in the 21st century. whenever a first walk between missions in native territory, soldiers accompanied them in burroughs carried over food and supplies. i decided to combine the two companions into a sherpa soldier and enlist friends who wouldn't mind carrying a bag pack filled with water, food and informational flyers to pass along the way. i diverted each sherpa soldier shift into a five-mile stretch, roughly one fifth of the total journey. wendy, my wife, volunteered to be the first one and i was excited for her to join me. the first reenactment she'd seen me do it after a year of leaving town, time and space, is happy to share some of my experience with her. during those two months at a number of books on the missions
but was surprised to find that it may favorite factoids while reading a children's book. apparently one point, rats have infiltrated the san fernando granary peers to get rid of them , friars guard cats from san gabriel. when i read it, and decided to import rate the episode in my lack as a sort of objective form a character. you know, just in case somebody asked you what is up to. the day after i read this, wendy and i bought a small stuffed black and white cat. after nailing down logistics, started assembling my kid. for rematch is, this is the most important step. if you don't look good and authentic gear, what's the point? aircrew reenactor would've found a sheet, spendable. i opted for a more efficient approach. i ordered my brown habit from an online costume store. i do have a good time in this the description read. even the most imperfect soul can achieve the look of spiritual affection with this costume.
the habit came with a rope out an oversize cross in philly fire to wait, but i figured if i was going to cut corners on garb i had to go hard core, so i decided to shave into my very own pincher, a friar check if you will. all i can say is that some of the two good idea time. but i prefer the lock on a cool friday in early january, i went back to this one right gotten my nazis haircut. in the intervening months the price had risen from $7 to eight and will read at has failed may have argued no longer worked there. to give my hairdresser a visual idea what it wanted, i printed a few pages of my caricature the internet. after waiting nervously for five minutes, was approached by one with shoulder length auburn hair named anita. are you ready she asked in an armenian accent? i stood up and lecturing me on it.
yes i think, but are you? they handed her the images can be fearing she would think is a plant in a hidden camera show, but she didn't flinch. she studied closely like a coke studying a recipe. i am walking between the missions i said nervously. but she didn't respond. she continued to consider the strange hair. you see, i don't want to do this. i'm writing a book and if the last shot for them as funny as i like my hair far too much to shave it off. she looked arise towards me and kept her head down. she studied i had like a great painter looking at a blank canvas. finally she spoke, whispered really. it's okay she said, many people want strange hair. but i think when done, you must wear a hat. [laughter] i pulled one out of my back
pocket. already thought of that. hard to believe that the menu crack this was abolished by pope paul the sixth. shaving one's scalp until only a fringe of hair remained was meant to resemble the crown of thorns and jesus had been designated amount had been received into the clerical order. it wasn't as so many people surmised a massively hideous bald spot by sherwood forest. while those not see haircut took a short time to style it took a better part of an hour. at the time she finished up with a cross between st. francis of assisi and jim carrey and and dumber. concert brought her slid down my barbers keeping a cool breeze chilled my newly exposed tape. after sometime i summoned up enough courage to look in the mirror. wow i said, to shot to scream or cry. 11 years of propecia down the drain. i'm sure none of the neatest instructors of cosmetology school of rest or to passionate
timeshares despite this her first ever come it was flawless. she wasn't a saint paul mitchell. i handed her the mirror back and she looked at me very sincerely and said, now would be good time for a period i ended up paying her double for hard work and slipped aside into the alleyway that leaves to our apartment. when i reached our door, so they can slowly so wendy wouldn't hear me. when inside of the baseball cap on, kicked off my shoes inspect it for that selected washup issue here is, but halfway there she spotted me. let's see, she said. just admitted i have to take a quick shower first, dashing to the bathroom and shutting the door. i tidied up the remaining stable. darling, i want to see wendy cried from the other side. not now, i've vacated. we are married she said in fun open the door. no she says he met bobby wade.
i couldn't close the door, but i figured she needed to see me in a nastiness so she could start acclimating. i need to tidy up my temples. they're a good stubbly. darlene she said, darlene she said tearing up, no, no. it's okay i said it will grow back. no she said, no, no, no. the only time i'd seen her like this is the time enron if we told her this that one day archives would die. i'm just saying inevitably wendy duster and jazzy won't be here. the hiccup of emotional unintelligent launched an unstoppable shower of tears from her and nothing i said could stop them. now it's happening again. i feel cold she said grabbing her stomach, shivering in my tummy. i'm standing on the edge of a cliff. hey i said approaching her with outstretched arms. it will only be for a day.
at the time i uttered those words come she bolted out of the bathroom. a couple months earlier she approved of my mishawaka idea. she'd known for a while is going to get my haircut, so i couldn't understand why she was so upset. i turned right resume shaving, but i did recognize the person staring back at me. he was buck in a ring tickled his bald head. shaving cream smeared all around his ears. i based my head, handed the race is paradise of the razor down my face and so did he. but that guy in the mirror, that guy looks at his crazy person. i flash back to the time in old fort niagara when jonas kinski said that to be reenacted the first thing you have to do is admit to yourself or little crazy. i'd officially arrived. thank you very much. [applause]
>> for more information, visit the author's website, charlie schroeder.com. >> facebook is about women, but you also talk to men. let's talk about what the men say. let's focus on the men because we talk so much about the winmain. the men are who we love, we stand by it, talk about the ones standing by their women in accepting this change because of the job situation within or this is what the shows and they walked in the door. talk to me about those who were intimidated or turned off. >> right, but there's a hope of i.e. office number in the boat. go back to michigan has since come as a supportive wives. most of them had to add to breadwinners, worked overtime, gone all the time. we know this is true. the bombers timed with error
children. these guys were very intense upon spending more time with their children than their dad had spent with them. i love my dad, he's a great guy, but was unable to be around when i was growing up and i want to be around. this situation enabled them to spend my time with their children and they were very happy about that. so that is one of the really positive outcomes for men in the situation in one of the reasons these guys were very supportive and perceived the benefits have not been you to be in a provider. we also know that the recession really sort of illuminated changes in the economy because three quarters of the people in the last jobs in the recession were men and allow for factory jobs in construction jobs, some of which will come back in some will not. a lot of guys were laid off.
one of the things we don't give women enough credit for is a lot kept households afloat during the recession. wives and girlfriends. this is not true during the depression when women were not in the workforce and not supposed to be. one of the things that kept our recession from being a depression was the fact we did have working and earning women who kept the households afloat because they were nurses, health care industry, teachers, jobs or take lower paying jobs. they were able to keep households afloat. we know that when members their jobs, they become more likely to leave the marriage. men in general are the elect her to leave marriages. kay hagan longer than women. studies show when they lose a job, can't be the provider, sometimes the psychological and emotional impact of that is so great that they leave the marriage. so obviously it can be enormously hard on men when they lose their jobs and identity as
a provider is taken away. studies have shown during this recession that men were appreciative and grateful of wives and girlfriends keep in their households afloat. sociologists interviewed some of these guys and they said i really like her you have her and i got up early and made her coffee because she was the one who was going off to work. and i think that does suggest there's been a mindset. during the depression when women kept households afloat, they were not praised in their household. they were stigmatized, work in whitesburg. has-beens were devastated by the loss of their own jobs, but women were regarded as having taken a job from a man. even though it's difficult, there's more gratitude and appreciation acceptance by men who've lost their jobs in the recession of what their wives or girlfriends are bringing to keep
the household afloat, even though it's hard enough on them but it does make them more likely to leave the marriage. >> host: some men felt that traditional role of the lost her job really affected them. they were not in that traditional role. in reading the book i thought that retaliation and some of them have experienced that. i know a lot of men who have lost jobs in the wives are taking over the home financially and otherwise because you just can't find themselves. talk to me about the retaliatory measure. >> guest: for example, this woman was physically unattractive. this is something women might hear in a situation like that. >> host: they want to housework either. they will tell a masculine role. casco also come i interviewed
the woman also who has sort of employed her boyfriend because he was well educated, but not that successful professionally. she employed him and that was ultimately problematic for them. it not only problematic because her brides who employed her has-beens, but she was running -- she had to do in sort of a guardianship business and he was helping her, but she was feeling he was retaliating and not helping around the home, so she started the spot and was working really, really hard to make up for and what makes you stay late and was having a spa party for like a wedding and there were more people than she expected. she stayed up all night, came home in the wee hours of the morning and he was not at her and even though she was the breadwinner. the poor thing said what if i done to make you so angry? he really wouldn't tell her, but obviously the fact -- the fact
that she was gone. he said he didn't call. she said i was so tired i climbed up with a manicure chair and much asleep at 5:00 in the morning. so there was retaliation. he kept the car out and rocked her car. there was more than one incident of vehicles, almost retaliation against personal property of the woman was something i was told. i'm good at taker vehicle, but not take care of it. again, back to the independence of fact. the women i talked to in those retaliatory situations got out of them and i realized they were ultimately better off out of them. i mean, i would argue if a guy is going to react to the economy is not necessarily someone you want to be partnered with for your life. even under the best of circumstances. one woman put it was so much
better to dump him because i didn't depend financially. we are happy back when women were economically dependent because they were. this creates and some couples a new source of tension. >> watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> what are you begin this summer? booktv wants to know. >> right now i'm reading mark frost, grand slam. bobby jones and the rise of american. the 1913 u.s. open. it reads just like a novel. he's a wonderful writer and i'm really enjoying it. i just finished daniel silvers new novel. about an israeli agent. and i've also read three books this summer by bad co. he writes about an american agent who was deeply involved in fighting terrorism.