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lost, they decided that they were okay. the establishment decided that they did not want me to be here in washington, so they were not going to help me. and they decided to move on to other races. and the tea party and many of you in idaho decided that they wanted me to win. i got outspent six to one in my general election. guess what, i lost that race by ten points. ..
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>> a young boy can aspire to go to college, can aspire to go to law school, can aspire to own a business and can do that without having to need the government to depend on. [applause] and that young boy can move to idaho, and can decide that he wants to run for office because he wants to make america once again what it used to be, give other young people that opportunity to grow and to expand and to become great in the united states. can run for a state legislative state, and that boy can win, and that boy can then decide that he wants to go to congress, and he decides that in his state, where
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there's less than 1% people of his panic -- puerto rican dissent and less than 9% hispanic dissent, the majority of the state will send him to congress. [applause] not because he fits a particular class or fits a particular idea of what a person should look like or should sound like but because he believes in the vam that makes america great. [applause] it's because of you, when the tea party got behind me candidacy, and many other groups, not just the tea party, but many other groups, the old reagan coalition where social con seventives, fiscal conservatives, tea party groups, activists, that silent majority
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that's out that that we talked about for years, called now the tea party, but we've called them many, many things. it's when they got together and decide we can actually win, and we can send people to washington, d.c. that want to make a difference. i didn't come here to make friends. i came here to save this republic and to save this nation. [applause] i need you to get engaged, get active, and with your help, i believe that 20 # 14 will be bigger than 2010. [applause] so thank you very much and god bless america. [applause] ♪
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ladies and gentlemen, welcome cohost of raging elements radio, george rodriguez. ♪ >> good morning, my dear friends. i'm fighting off an nsa allergy, i think. they are trying to silence us. five years ago, my friends, five years ago, the founding of the tea party movement came to texas, and it's stronger than ever, particularly in our area in south texas. what's curious to many political pundits is that we attract hispanics into the movement in south texas, and there's several reasons. first of all, contrary to what many liberals believe, not all
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hispanics are from spain. [laughter] okay? you just heard from raul, okay, a puerto rican, and here i am, a mexican-american. there are cubans. there are central americans. even within the large group of mexicans, there are mexicans that have. here, like my family for generations since before texas was texas, and then there are those that just crossed the border, legally and, you know? all of them have a different perspective on american politics. secondly, many hispanics continue, particularly the new immigrants, they continue to be attracted to the faith based family values that we felt, and that makes fertile ground for recruiting them. third, and very importantly, is
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the outreach that we do. for example, we do trench work, okay? over at the g.o.p., and i don't want to hurt their feelings, but over at the g.o.p., they hire professionals, professional hispanics. okay? [laughter] they hire professional hispanics. in a clear example of the differences. first of all, we have a recall effort going on against a liberal city counselman, and there's a real grassroots effort led by faith based groups and tea party folks, and they go door-to-door talking to people, and they are having great success. on the other hand, the g.o.p. candidates for lieutenant governor patterson put together
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a video, a professionally made video that he's sending out to hispanics. now, who do you think is going to be more successful? the fourth reason is our message, my friends, is not a segregated message, and by that i mean the same message to all americans resinates in the his panic community, okay? the message of god, family, and country, that's important to us. that's important to us. the biggest challenges we have, and i want to point out none of the latino speaking media showed up is the mainstream media and in particular the spanish speaking media. they look at us as monolithic,
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as victims who just care about immigration, okay? i feel that that is just another form of liberal reverse discrimination. racism, that's what that is. i personally have worked very, very hard in south texas to show that con sebtism and the tea party have a brown face. the spanish speaking media, and we do need spanish speakers, my friends, the spanish speaking media, specifically liberal telemundo networks, regularly refer to us conservatives, tea party folks, as antiimmigrant when in reality we're antiillegal immigration. intentionally or not -- [applause] intentionally or not, my
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friends, what they are doing is they are dividing a future group of american citizens. that is what they are doing, mislead k them, and rather than helping them to assimilate or polarizing them, maybe they want to maintain a captured spanish speaking audience, i don't know. they are promoting their own liberal agenda and messages. conservatives, my friends, conservatives needs folks like rush limbaugh, hannity and others to challenge liberals in spanish, in espanol and has with the mainstream media in south texas where we endeavored to speak out on national tv, on telemundo, an foxen on mundo fox, and all the other ones, we have to be heard, my friends, in the spanish language as well as the english language, and they must see us that it's not just a
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bunch of old black men. i was born, my friends, i was born in brick housing, my parents self-taught. while there's many reasons to cry and sometimes surrender, there are always many more reasons to laugh and succeed, and though we spoke spanish at home and ate tortillas, we were always americans first. [applause] liberals and the g.o.p. need to accept the fact the tea party is not going away and the g.o.p. has to realize the grassroots hispanics like myself are true who will work to save our nation, unlike i professional hispanics and consul at that particular times who need to be paid to get the vote out. in fecks, my friends, we have
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many tea party hispanics who are americans first like sanchez and rivera, and jackson and in san antonio, and them, of course, my good friend and champion of conservative cause z, senator ted cruz. [applause] he was elect not base he was spanish, but because he was american. i'm proud to be of mexican dissent, but much more proud to be an american. god bless america, thank you. ♪
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♪ >> i'm from seattle. what is seattle known for? that's a good answer there, rain, amazon, starbucks, costco, and now the seattle seahawks. [applause] what else is seattle known for? an incubator of national movements and trend. people think washington state is deep blue, but it's not. it is purple. three years ago, i read the book called # the colorado blueprint, and some of you may be familiar with it. it's about how poor individuals put a plan together to change colorado from red to blue.
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now i'm sure you're thinking now why is woody so excited about this? well, because we can do that here, the washington state blueprint. when looking at the immense task on how to turn washington state red, john f. kennedy had a quote. the american by nature is on the mistake. he's experimental, and inventor and builder who builds best when called upon to build greatly. this is about the american dream, our cream and how our dream is protected and how local activists work to turn a blue state purple. how did we do this? first, we surrounded ourselves with people who have a deep understanding of the political process, by deep understanding, i mean immerse. for example, we knew we had to have the carl rove of washington
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state on our team, but you need people skill in the organization of organization and structure. we needed an organization that runs efficiently like a business. for example, the executives that ran the 7:57 program was the perfect fit, and he was on our team. some of you know wood, and wall, and second, the coalition. the coalitions are nearly up stoppable. we set out with parks, diligence, and brotherly love to form this coalition. to name a few, the washington state dairy federation, the freedom foundation, tea party patriots, and local groups from all across the state from louis and clark tea party to the covington tea party patriots. i think i spied a couple of you in here earlier.
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second amendment foundation, the washington state farm bureau, and campaign for liberty ron paul group, all of us banded together to work hand-in-hand for the first time in 30 years with one common goal, the goal of changing the state senate and house to just fiscal conservative. we all agree to lee our egos and agenda as the the door. third factor -- [applause] third is selecting the districts to flip them as critical. we identified seven districts at the conservative candidate losing every single election for the last 35 years, but with 48% of the vote, some cases a spread of 400 to 800 votes for 35 years. now, what do you do once you have your districts? you must make sure your
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candidate can win. do they have a campaign manager? do they have a written campaign plan? have they taken a selfie with their iphone for the voters' guide? voters' guide to look sketchy. you know, make sure the guy's not a moron. [laughter] as election season started, we putt the plan into motion. some of you flew in from alabama, georgia, mississippi, tennessee to walk with us. that made a huge difference and was very special to us that you all flew in. we asked organizers from the wisconsin governor walker effort to run the brown game. we couldn't have done it without them. it was troughly a team effort. now, hundreds of walkers began standing out over two months knocking on thousands of doors
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enwoijing voters, handing out information, and one of the most conservative operations in washington state's freedom found cation was busy training hundreds of grassroots, and fast forward to election night. we watched the news from the east coast, but as the night wore on, and it got later, it seemed as though one bright light was shining in the night of disappointment and dispair. washington state results started trickling in. a celebration started to unfold as it was clear the fiscal conservatives took control of the washington state senate for
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the first time in 35 years. [applause] one first step of moving wushz from blue to red and one step closer to spreading this to all 50 states. this can't be just about one state. it's about our country. this is how we finish the story, the fight for freedom and fiscal responsibility. thee american dream. this project, this machine is capable of running in all 50 states targeting everything from city counsels, local races, red states, to purple and even blue states. the next chapter is ready to be written. the blueprint is ready. [applause] ♪
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ladies and gentlemen, please welcome president and founder of true the vote, katherine -- [inaudible] ♪ [applause] >> thank you, all, thank you. thank you. [applause] it is a pleasure and honor to be here this morning. humbling, really. quick show of hands. how many of you previous to five years ago had any political experience -- let me ask it a different way, how many of you never had political experience before five years ago? what in the world are we doing? [laughter] you know, i came -- five years ago to the first tea party
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patriots here in washington, d.c., quick show of hands, how many of you were there op that lawn on that day? wasn't that something? this hotel, and i didn't know what to expect. i was completely up prepared, and i didn't see anybody else that looked like a patriot. [laughter] i thought i have really, you know, my husband already thought i lost my mind, and i knew i was potentially going to be in to eat a whole lot of you by when i got home, and when i prepared to go to the rally that morning, i looked out of my window, this is not part of the prepared excellents at all, but i'm swept up in it, you know, and i liked out of the window, and i saw this sea of red, white, and blue shirts, working their way down into what became just a current
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that led to the lop of the capitol, millions. ladies and gentlemen, that does not happen but by the hand of god. [applause] we have been called here. [applause] for a very high purpose. we could have been born at any time, but we've been chosen to be born at this time because we have a job to do. let me tell you, ladies and gentlemen, it's the american dream to be preserved, it will be because citizens are willing to take a stand and preserve, preserve ideals that transcends politics. it's not -- [applause] it's not about republican and democrat because, you know what? we need two parties. we need debate. we need open discourse. that's healthy. that's good. what's changed is that we used to have a common center. we used to have a common center
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where we believedded in the ideas of freedom and opportunity and faith, and somewhere along the way, we've lost that true north. that's what we need to find our way back to. i first stood up in 2009 when i started an organization called true the vote, which i thought would be a great uniting effort. [applause] it has been. it's these unified camps in different ways. it's been interesting to watch, and i always assume that everybody would be in favor of election integrity. how can you be against? [laughter] how can you be against free and fair elections. if you're against fair elections, then what are you for? i'll leave that to your imagination, but as our reach increased, so did the number of alphabet soup agencies at the
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federal government that found their way to the doorstep including the irs and fbi and osha and bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. at last count rings there's been in the last three years, that 25-plus investigations or inquiries into my personal business. now, this morning, as many of you know, i'm sure, the co-founder of tea party patriots is testifying before congress on the same types of irs abuse and targeting that this administration is now looking to legalize, to codify. we've started a website, and i have a call to action for you this morning. we started a website called we will not be sleepsed -- i'll lay it out quickly. the irs has attempted to write into law regulations that will
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so stifle political speech that it will change unalterably the landscape of nonprofit organizations, much of which the type you belong to here in this room. standard levels of voter education and engagement will be made illegal in these regulations if they are allowed to pass. there is a window of time for citizen comment, and that window ends tonight at midnight. tonight at midnight. go to, leave your comment for the irs. at last count, over a hundred thousand comments already in. this is why it's important. it's a process. thank god we are still a country of law and in the law, it is a requirement that everybody comment be addressed. a hundred thousand comments is going to take an awful will the
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of time and maybe in that time, changes will happen, there could be a midterm election, and we can stop some of the nonsense, but if we don't, and if you don't stand up, it will not stop. it will not stop, and, ladies and gentlemen, this american dream is worth standing up for. thank you. [applause] thank you for everything you do in this room, and, believe me, things people would never believe have to happen just to preserve the right to free speech, preserve our constitution, prereceiver the dream forever our children. thank you on behalf of my family and my children for what you do. god bless you, and god bless america. [applause] ♪
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ladies and gentlemen, please welcome steven tucker. ♪ >> good morning. thank you all for coming. great one mark levin just signed my book. i'm not letting go of it until i leave this stage. he's coming up pretty soon. for many, many months before the passage of the party protection and unafford care act, we were told by our friends on the left of which i have -- that we had to pass this law to solve the issue of preexisting conditions. we were also told that 45,000 people were, quote, dying in the
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streets. is that true? no. of course it's not true. first of all, we know people are not dying in the streets because of what law? emergency medical treatment and leave act passed under reagan. if you're 250 yards from a hospital in this country, they have to treat you regardless of your ability to pay, but was president obama speaking truthfully if you deny health insurance in the individual market where there's no protection to preexisting condition, does that mean you're left with no option? no. who is responsible for preexisting conditions anyway? where does that clause come from? as is the case with most problems, it comes from here, right here in washington, d.c.. back in 1996, a bipartisan group of legislators got together and wrote a law called hipa, and when we hear the word "hipa," we
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think of what? privacy. that's right. there's a far more important clause in hipa, and it's the letter responsible for the third word in hipa which is affordability. affordability allows one to support one coverage, coverage of preexisting conditions from one employer sponsored plan to another employee sponsored plan as long as it's within 63 days. that's law. how do we know it's true? has an employer said, boy, lose a few pounds? how many medications do you take? does your family have a history of heart disease? it's illegal to do that because of hipa law protecting 90% of the american insured, but when the federal government wrote this law, they dropped the ball and extended no affordability protection for those of us in the individual market that buy our health insurance, that's 10% of the insured americans, 14 million.
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those prior to obamacare could be denied coverage. now, did we need obama care to solve that problem? did we need to spend, according to the cbo, $2 trillion over the next ten years, and, by the way, still leave 31 million people unensured, after spending that. we did not. you see, the state stepped up and started their own solution. we had infrastructure built already, and 35 states before obamacare was heard of. there was state high risk insurance pools and the people's republic of illinois where i hail from, we have one called ichip, the illinois comprehensive health insurance plan, and if you are denied for health insurance from any carry yeah, the regulators in illinois say every coverage has to give a percentage of the profits to a pool of money, and we'll manage the money, if you are denied, come to us, we insure you regardless, and you carry a blue cross, blue shield of illinois
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card even though you have preexisting conditions. guess what? we didn't need obama care to solve the issue. can you use individual mandates? in ohio, for example, they manage that each insurer offer 4% of the block business to six people once a year during open enrollment. long before obamacare those things were in place. there's another important process, and that's section 2742 that prohits any health insurance in the nation from dropping coverage when you are sick or raising your premiums when you are sick. i found this out years ago as a health insurance broker. that's right, i'm an evil health insurance broker. [laughter] okay. so it's a clause that is ironclad, and i found this out, and i watched # the megyn kelly show, and bill elliot came on and told her it is cancer, thanks to obamacare, the
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insurance company was dropping his coverage mountain nid l of cancer treatment, raising his deduct deductible from to 1500 and premiums of 189 a month up to $1500 a month. his deductible to $13,000. i said, bill, i want you to know the president's been lying to the american people for four years. they can't drop coverage or raise premiums, it's illegal under federal hipa law. contact governor haley in south carolina. she's one of us. so he did. he put it out off of my blog, truth about preexisting conditions, shameless plug, and he faxed the insurance policy company, a message from bill three days later that, said, i can't believe it, the insurance company called me, you are right, i can keep my policy. [applause]
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three weeks later, i want you to know that bill is now in full remission. [applause] largely because he could keep his insurance policy. what did he get for speaking out? a letter from the irs on thanksgiving day. the same day, by the way, that i got my later. that's right. understand we should never be afraid from this tie rankle lawless regime we live under because we have to speak oillet because you never know through god's grace when you will save someone's life. thank you for listening. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome congressman matt salmon.
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♪ >> i'm one of the few people in congress who are called a retread. i was elected in 1994, remember the contract with america? i was one of the few people that made a pledge and kept it. in fact, i think there were, like, a hundred of us that made the pledge, and five of us kept our word and went home, but that's the way things go in washington, d.c.. you drink that water, you change forever, but when i was in congress before, i was dubbed as one of the bad boys of the republican party. there were 11 of us, the precursor of the tea party. we were the tea party before the tea party was cool. there were 11 of us, and we were constantly not only fighting bill clinton, the president at that time, but fight against some of the things our old leadership was doing because we
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didn't come back to be just a mindless lemon for the elephant over the donkey, but came back with value, and that was to get our government spending down to live within our means, to get fair taxes that don't ruin people's businesses and their lives, and we believe the things the republican party had been saying. that was our big crime, but they called us a big boy republican, and now to be referred to as a tea party patriot makes my life easier. didn't like the bad boy republican thing, but i just want you to know what brought me back because i left for 12 years, and when i left, having set term limits, i never thought i would come back to congress again, because when i left, we had actually balanced the budget for the first time in 40 # years. in 1998, we balanced the budget. 1999, we blnsed the budget, and in 2000, not only was it balanced, but had a 240 billion
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some surplus. the frl budget was 1.7 trillion. i fast forward, i'm out for 12 # years, and i see what happens in 2010. the glorious patriots standing up, fighting gebs the most tie rankle president every in the history of america, and i see -- my juices start fleeing, get energizedded, they are on the mark, and in 2012, i decided to come back and run again because i believe, with all my heart, that this movement is growing. you heard from folks out there in the media, the liberal referred to the mainstream lame stream media, but the fact is they tried to, you know, put out the o pitch rivera for the tea party. it's growing and strengthening. when i was in congress before, thrmp 11 of us on the house side that fought. there's 40 of us now on the house side.
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that's a good thing. [applause] when i first came, nobody really was carrying the banner on the senate side, nobody. now we got about six or seven. it's only going to grow after the next election, but i want to talk about the idea that we get labeledded with almost all the time, extremist. we get called extremist. i want to remind you that father of conservative politics in this country, barry goldwater from my state said this, that extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and -- [applause] and he said that moderation and defense -- excuse me, pursuit of justice to no virtue. i want to stand here before you all today, and i want to acknowledge something. if balancing the budget, again is extreme, i'm guilty as
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charged. i'm extreme. if sending obamacare to another world is extreme, then i'm extreme. [applause] it's finding justice for brian terry, a brave patriot killed on the border during fast and furious is extreme, then i'm extreme. [applause] if fighting justice from ambassador stevens who was murdered in benghazi is extreme, then i'm extreme. [applause] [applause] i'll tell you something, the old
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phrase "when the going gets tough, the tough get going," i'll stand shoulder to shoulder with you patriots any day of the week and fight side by side with you until we get the country back and our freedom back. thank you. [applause] eighteen years ago when i was in congress, i was the father of four children, and now i'm a grandfather of six children, and i look into their little eyes and faces, and it makes me want to weep. what kind of a country or legacy are we going to leave them? i spoke to a group of high school students last week, and i said what we're doing today in spending away your future is so immoral. it's like your parents getting an all expense trip around the world with the findest hotels, first class airlines, and putting it on a credit card in your name. that's what we are doing today.
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those kids get it. we need to get it. we need to fight for our country. [applause] if that makes the establishment folks cringe a bit, makes them uncomfortable, well, boo, hoo, hoo. [applause] this is not a game. this is an ethic battle lincoln once said if america is defeated, it will not be from without. it will be from within. rise up and take the country back. i am proud, proud to be a tea party republican, and i'm proud to represent you. god bless you and god bless america, thank you. [applause] ♪ ladies and gentlemen, please
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welcome tea party patriot and indiana state coordinator. ♪ >> thank you. people are saying that the american dream is dead. however, i believe the vision that our founders had for this nation is alive and the heart and mind of most americans. never before in history has any group of people enjoyed freedom and liberty as we have here in america. [applause] many of you gathered here today like me where tea party before there was a tea party movement.
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i became part of the tea party because it fit in with the natural flow of my compassion and love for our great nation. [applause] i served in the u.s. air force during the vietnam war. [applause] i saw the disrespect shown to those who served our nation upon returning home. they returned home from a war to a citizenry that showed anger and disrespect towards them. after all, 30 years later, while driving one day, i heard glenn beck say he wished he could -- [applause]
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said he wish he could find a way to reach the troupes in the rally for america event. he wished for two-way communication in exchange during these rallies between our troops deployed in iraq, afghanistan, europe, and here at home. he said it would be too exceptive. hey, folks, that was back in 2003. there was no skype. no facebook. phone bills were very expensive, but i'm a ham radio operator. [applause] i had an idea how it could be done for free. i pulled over and called our local radio station. they laughed at my idea and hung up.
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they wanted to know more. >> glenn beck, only rally in the town, one of the largest in the nation at the time. i enter deuced amateur radio communications to the event, and we chatted live with the military during the rally. we had a mom in the crowd who had a conversation with a solder. to her surprise, that soldier turned out to be her son. it was very emotional. as a result of our success, i was invited to the national glenn beck rally in west virginia. i went on to organize a series of them on my own over the next ten years. in my community and worldwide. called amateur radio military spreerks day. i was invited to breakfast with
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president george w. bush and his entire cabinet on the white house south lawn all because i had an idea and took action. [applause] that's what i mean by being tear party before there was a tea party. before the movement began, i got a call from fellow patriots asking me to organize a rally in my city. i rose to the challenge, even though the local mia said i would fail. they printed a front page story in the local newspaper saying this man will need a lot of luck to pull this off. they said no one would attend a rally led by a black map. i had two weeks to prove them wrong.
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this black man booked another black man, allen keys, as the keynote speaker. [applause] we had one of the largest crowds in the nation at a tea party event organized by a black man, keynoted by another. [applause] anything is possible if you are actively pursuing your american dream. [applause] that's fundmental to the tea party movement. remember, all it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. a former congressman from oklahoma, also a black man, jc white. [applause] he said, when did comes to the
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american dream, no one has a on the market. all of us have an equal chance to share in the dream, so i encouraged you to stay the course because our voices make a difference. i like to think mine has. pursue your dreams and don't ever think that one person is not important. stay united. continue to stand up for what you believe. god bless you, gods bless america, and god bless our men and women who serve in the armedded forces of the united states of america! [applause] i'll leave you with my personal model, freedom and liberty, use
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them or lose them! god bless you! [applause] ♪ >> thank you very much, and thank you for having me, and most importantly, thank you for all you do. you know, the obama administration made a point of calling its critics and other things extortionists and terrorists, so you couldn't be a nicer group of extortionists and terrorists. i'm happy to be here. i could you the hairs -- heirs of ronald reagan. [applause] the tea party has been very
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clear right from your spontaneous beginnings. you were deeply concerned about the fiscally irresponsible agents of the government, misguided stimulus, the take outs of private industry, your goals equally as clear as they were reaganesque. renew america for renewed support, fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government; and free market economic policy. for believing in lib rty and fiscal sanity, you were demonized right from the very beginning. it was astonishing if i'm surprising to watch a part of abuse directed at the tea party. i can tell you this kind of abuse was directed at ronald reagan that believing exactly the same kind of things. he was called evil by house speaker o'neill, a president who was told and mean and cruel, and yet, but of course, ronald
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reagan was inevitably called a racist. this is, in fact, what the american left does. particularly when they are losing the argument. the tea party is racist, really? really? perhaps it's time to point out that this charge of racism from the left comes from members of a political party that have proudly stood for, and i want to be specific here, six platforms to support its slavery. they oppose the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments to the institution that successfully wipe out slavery and gay folks legal rights and voting rights to black americans. they supported segregation actively or by silence in 25 forums. they opposed antilynching laws specially supported by the republican party platform, and liberals didn't just support the ku klux klan, they were the ku klux klan, regularly electing
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clan members to the united states senate, house of representative, and the nations governorship without putting a clan member on yet the supreme court of the united states. these are people with a long and wretched political history of depending on in and every steam imaginable, then and now, that judges their fellow americans by skin color, and they have the nerve to call the tea party raisessist? it is more than past time to call them out. tell the party -- [applause] and tell the party of slavery, segregation, lynching, the ku klux klan, racial quo toes to quit judging their fellow americans by skin color and get back to the business of getting this country on the road to fiscal healthy and economic growth. [applause]
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you have received considerable criticism from establishment republicans. they, too, want to scorn ronald reagan. no one, by the way, knows this better than our friend mark levin. i can't say enough about mark's ability to bring the constitution and founding principles of this nation back once again front and center. he's a national treasure, and we owe him a considerable debt of gratitude. [applause] mark and ronald reagan's biographer, craig shirley, certainly remembers as i do that in march of 1980 as governor reagan was on the way to winning the republican nomination for president, former president gurled ford went to the new york times to say governor reagan the kinds of things that are said of the tea party today. ronald reagan said president
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ford was too extreme. he was a sore loser because -- and i'm quoting here, a very conservative family, and as you recall, lost to carter years earlier, and not only ballet carter in a land slide in 1980, four years later won reelection by 49 votes, 49 states, not votes, sorry. [laughter] sorry. [laughter] which lastly brings me to president reagan and his great friend, margaret thatcher. there is a reason ronald reagan won two lands slides and thatcher was the longest serving prime minister winning three elections in a row. both believed with the tea party in drawing a line in the sand that clearly separates right from left, that is not only the key to victory, but they were
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right about this in the establishment was wrong. president reagan referred to establishment republicans as the types the tea party does battle with every day as paternal order republicans. mrs. thatcher summonedded terms from the british school system and call for establishment conservatives the wet. both believe that the politics of what reagan called the paternal order and mrs. thatcher disdained as consensus politics were road maps to defeat. in fact, one if there had been a tea party in britain, mrs. thatcher would have been its leader. said she scornfully of the consensus politics she believed brought repeated defeats of the conservative party in great britain, and i'm quoting here, the old testaments prophets did not go on to the highway saying, brother, i want consensus. they said, this is my faith.
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this is my vision. this is what i'm fashion natalie believe. go out, preach it, practice it, fight for it, and the day will be ours. as you go about your challenges this year for the republican establishment, the paternal order republicans, whether here op capitol hill or across the land, i would urge you to take the understanding of ronald reagan that there is a time for choosing and take to heart the words of margaret thatcher, if i may americanize them. go out, into the highways and byways of america, and make it plain as ronald reagan did, tell the american people, this is my faith, this is my vision, this is what i believe, go out, practice it, preach it, fight for it, and the day will be yours. thank you very much. [applause]
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♪ ♪ come on. [cheers and applause] >> thank you very much. what's all this for? happy anniversary. [cheers and applause] honor to be with you. you're an inspare ration to me and millions of others. the fact is we live under a
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lawless president, a sectless congress, and all-powerful supreme court, they consume nearly 25% of the entire economy and goodbyes up whole industries. we are 17.3 # trillion dollars in fiscal operating debt, owe over a trillion dollars in unfund liability. there's not enough money on planet earth to pay that back. the overall set, when it's all combined grows by 5-7 trillion dollars a year. this president proclaims the era of austerity is over. [laughter] the federal government, now the nation's largest creditor, debtor, lender, employer, consumer, contractor, grantor, property owner, tenant, insurer, health care provider, and
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pension guarantor, so much for limited government. it unleashing thousands of regulations and rules every single year over the course of a decade. it fills nearly 1 million pages in the federal register. we are being devoured by the very government that is supposed to serve us. the centralization and concentration of power is moving at breakneck speed as the institutions fire walls have been breached, and i don't need a liberal law professor from george washington to tell me what's going on either. [applause] although we welcome them. the tea party movement is the only thing left that stands between what remains of our republic and the tyranny of run away government, an i say this
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from the bottom of my heart and my soul, and i thank you. you are the citizens from all walks of life and all corners of the country who possess this spirit and enthusiasm of the founding fathers, proclaim the principles of individual liberty and unalienable rights as set forth in our declaration. insist on the federal government's compliance with the constitution's limits. you are astutely aware of the pearl of the moment and all that is at stake, and for this, you are smeared and attacked by the ruling class. democrats and republicans alike, by the media, from the new york slimes to the wall street journal and countless others who are dragging this nation into the abyss, and i know that at times you wonder if we'll be able to reverse course.
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you wonder if it's all worth it. you wonder if you should live quiet lives among family and friends and tend to your own needs, but i also know you're americans, and you cannot be idle, and you will not be silenced while a relevant handful master mind seeks to lord over you and your fellow citizens. you will not allow your country to fail. [applause] now, let me remind you, december 23rd, 1776, when it looked like the american revolution was lost, what was left of general george washington's continental army gatheredded for what the history books described as the battle of trenton.
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before they boarded rickety wooden boats across the froze p delaware river on that miserable winter night, it began to read allow from thomas payne's "the american crisis," and they repeated these words. this became their motto. "these are the times that try men's souls, the summer soldier and the sup shining patriot will in this crisis sliping from the service of its country, but he that stands by it now deserves the love and thanks of man and women." that's you. tyranny like hell is not easily conquered if we have this copslation with us. ..
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ronald reagan was not part of the establishment. it was an outsider and like you and so many others throughout history he had the courage to stand up and be counted and for this also like you, reagan and his supporters were disparaged and dismissed by the same ruling class and i will give you a few examples. george will, 1974. reagan is 63 and he looks it. his hair is still remarkably free of gray but around the
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mouth and neck he looks like an old man. he has never demonstrated substantial national appeal. his hard-core support today consists primarily of that, cause he conservatives who thought the 1960 goldwater campaign was jolly fun. there is reason to doubt that reagan is well-suited to appeal to the electorate that just produced a democratic landslide. george will. chuck percy former republican senator from illinois, a reagan nomination in the crushing defeat likely to follow could signal the beginning of the end of our party as an effective force in american life. he said reagan is far out of the centrist mainstream. what the hell is a centrist mainstream anyway? [laughter] i used to think it was the constitution. i used to think it was free
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market. i used to think it was private property rights. apparently that's now right-wing. [applause] john rhodes would become a republican leader of the always in the minority republicans in the house at that time said as soon as reagan gets away from his clichés and his campaign slogan season trouble. nelson rockefeller who leads the current republican party i thinn governors that no major american party could long endure by directing its appeal to a narrow minority. it will not serve the nation to have our major parties polarized at ideological extremes. does this not sound familiar to you? there are so many of these i could go on all day with this. [laughter]
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[applause] i have got a radio show to do and the president to attack so i can't stay long. [applause] let me and with this one from our friends at "the wall street journal" editorial page. in 1979. "the wall street journal" wrote, for political packaging we do not need to turn to a 68-year-old man. maybe they will write tomorrow rum political packaging we don't need to turn to a 68-year-old woman who would be hillary clinton. [applause] but i digress. now as you heard from my friend
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jeff lord, gerald ford went on to lose to a very weak democratic candidate named jimmy carter. reagan went on to win in 1980 and 84 to the biggest landslides in american history. the popular vote i would remind karl rove and electoral college. [applause] having campaigned personally for reagan in 1976 and 80 and i want you to listen. i feel certain he would be enormously proud. in fact i'll bet he would have been thrilled to stand before you write here and thank you for all you are doing and all you have done and congratulate you on this fifth anniversary of the tea party movement. i think it's appropriate to end my comments with a truism from president reagan which is the
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last paragraph from ibooks liberty and tyranny which most of you have heard i now but i'm going to repeat it anyway. for those of you who haven't. reagan rode freedom is never one generation away from extinction. we didn't pass it to our children in the lead stream. it must be fought for, protected and handed on for them to do the same for one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children's and our children's children what it was once like in the united states when men were free. you folks, you are an inspiration to people like me and millions of others. it's a great honor to be here and on behalf of all those other people and your fellow citizens and generations yet to come i want to thank you and god bless
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all of you. [applause] vice president joe biden spoke to the democratic national committee annual meeting on thursday. you can see his entire speech on line at here's a little of what he had to say. >> i am here for two express reasons and i know the press will say however the press will freeze it. the first is the 2014 election and the second one is building the democratic national committee into a powerhouse that works in 16, 18, 22 and 24 and i have committed to go anywhere
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she has asked me to go, raise any money we can because folks i am so tired, i am so tired of hearing about the demise of the democratic party. we are going to have trouble, we have trouble keeping up. give me a break. there is no republican party. no, no, no. haight john how are you? here is what i mean by that. the president delivers his state of the union. four responses. i am being deadly earnest. think about this. why are we quote in trouble as the popular conventional wisdom is now? my buddy and iran together back 200 years ago together and he is my great friend. john i can think of a time for real since i was elected in 72
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where the majority of the american people agreed with us on every major issue we are for. now that sounds like hyperbole but think about it. raising the minimum wage 71%, equal pay for women 90% early childhood education 86'd process investing infrastructure 88% background checked 90% marriage equality 55% building the affordable, building on the american care act instead of repealing it 75%. 65% of republican voters in 73% democrat. ending the war in afghanistan. we had never been there before folks. so what are we worried about? what we are worried about is the coat or others and their friends being -- bringing in millions and millions of dollars.
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[applause] i'm still one of these guys that says money can't buy an election where you are selling a bad set of goods and what are the republicans for? by the way i really want to see a strong republican party. i mean it sincerely. some criticize me for saying in the middle of the last campaign if i had one wish what would it eni said to have a strong republican party and the reason i say that is most of the major issues that need to be negotiatenegotiated i get the assignment of being the guy to try to work it out. and let me tell you something meeting with my republican colleagues and i still get along with them and i admire a lot of them. they shake hands and say you've got a deal in somewhere between four hours in four days later they called back and say i can't do it, joe. they are being honest. they really were for a deal, a compromise. we need someone to be able to
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sit across the table from who in fact we can say let's work this out for the country so when i say we need a strong republican party that is what i mean because it's always about compromise. we are the most heterogeneous democracy mr. the world and that requires compromise.
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up next a discussion of the marijuana industry in colorado. on "washington journal," this is 40 minutes. >> host: we will be talking shortly with harry smith at nbc news. he has a new special or cnbc that aired last night on the network and it will re-air tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. looking at colorado and its legal marijuana sales made possible by a new law that went into effect this year. here's a little bit of marijuana in america colorado pot rush. >> come along on a ride with us. we are about to take you to a place unlike any other. where marijuana is legal in the sense of money is in the air.
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>> it's the first time i've smoked a joint in a long time. i'm not doing anything wrong. >> kevin and rachel arpad tourists oh so happy to be in mile high. >> welcome to colorado. >> host: joining us from new york this morning harry smith correspondent. let's begin with what led you to this story and to put together this special. >> guest: the first state in the nation to make recreational marijuana legal let alone the first place in the world to say this is something we are going to do an illegal way. a lot of people go to amsterdam and use marijuana or eat the little cookies but that's not actually a legal. that's the nation of the netherlands sort of turning their shoulder and saying it's okay. this is the worst place in the world where recreational sale of
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marijuana is actually legal. >> host: what did you learn? [laughing] >> guest: how much time do you have? the size of the business is so much larger than i think anybody even anticipated. the state of colorado came out last week and said they think in the fiscal year to come they think the marijuana business in colorado alone is going to be worth $1 billion. this is a phenomena that is taking that state a ice storm and if we pick up the front page of "the new york times" this morning it's moving state-by-state by state and well-liked to be on the ballots this year in alaska and probably coming soon to rhode island. lots and lots of states are talking about it not only from the standpoint of legalization from the standpoint of the libertarian freedom issue but also in terms of revenue that states think they can collect as
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a result of taxing legal marijuana. >> host: what do you think the states that are looking at this can learn from colorado and from the piece that you put together? >> guest: yeah we spend a lot of time with governor john hickenlooper who is a pretty smart guy and he calls what's going on in colorado a great social experiment. it really is that and if it is a social experiment in colorado is the petri dish for which all the other state should be keeping an eye. one of the things he said at the national governors conference in washington d.c. this past weekend is he urged everyone to just take it slow. this is uncharted territory and i think if the states and legislatures are seeing dollar signs what no one really knows is the cost of this, what's the social cost? are people going to be driving high? what is the cost of having a society that says this is
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something that's okay with us? and nobody really knows what the answers to any of those questions are yet. >> host: let's listen to what the governor had to say to you when you sat down for the cnbc special. >> that kind of branding where people say you guys are could be terrible for us. >> you are concerned that colorado will become known as the stoner state. >> some employers are going to think twice. the governors acutely aware that his state has no blueprint to follow. >> most of the recognize this will be one of the greatest social experiments of the next century. i spent 16 years in the restaurant does this and it's like opening a brand-new restaurant which is opening in having a great first few weeks. >> host: harry smith what are they doing as they enter take
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this so-called experiment? how are they going about it? >> guest: well the business is highly, highly, highly regulated. there are a lot of bureaucratic hoops you have to jump through in order to go into the marijuana business. every single plant that is grown out there for instance has a radio tag and its tags and accounted for so if you think okay well i'm going to start this business of over here and sell some on the site every plant is accounted for from seat until sale so it's a very highly regulated business. they are doing their best to get control of what is this kind of exploding geysers so to speak and as he says everything they do they are trying to think out of the box and say how can we get control of this and make sure this works out for everybody's benefit or at least to as many people's benefit as
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possible. >> host: how do you go about setting up a business they're? what is the cost for getting to be part of this industry there and what are the profits? >> guest: the profits are phenomenal. one of the guys in the special we talked to us a lawyer and one of his law paved -- law partners came up to him a couple of years ago and said why don't we open up a law shop that only deals with the marijuana. and that in enough itself is a pretty lucrative idea in the sky said one we just cut to the chase. why do we go the marijuana business? i asked him what's it like being in the marijuana business and he says it's like holding a winning lottery ticket. the people who are in this and know what they are doing are making money. they are making serious, serious money but i think also the people who don't know what they are doing or don't have business
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acumen are going going to meet it out fairly quickly. >> host: so there will be losers in this? >> guest: of course there will just like any other business proposition that people who know what they are doing and have some clue will continue to grow and prosper in the ones who have less of a clue will probably get gobbled up by the one ones who do. >> host: harry smith describe what you saw in colorado on the business landscape. all the different business is better trying to be a part of this movement. >> guest: yeah, it's pretty stunning because one of the things that i was completely unaware of and listen for those of us on the east coast who have not been exposed to medical marijuana, medical marijuana in its own way from my perspective is this sort of de facto legalization because if you want to get medical marijuana it's very very easy to get a prescription for it.
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there is not a big hurdle you have to go over so states with marijuana have a almost de facto legalization so back here where we are in new york there's nothing even close. there's nothing within hundreds of miles of the could use a sort of an example so you go out there and it's a brave new world. one of the things that i was stunned by with the fact that people aren't just smoking marijuana. they are using all kinds of edible products. 40% of the business right now is edibles and nonsmokeable so if you go to a marijuana shop and they're all kinds of chop wood bars and candies and all this sort of stuff and is laced with highly refined and super pure hash oil which is basically marijuana squeezed down to get the pure stuff out of it. it's super strong so that's one aspect in the other aspect is basically e-cigarettes that use
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super purified hash oil and that's a huge growing part of the business so if you think you are going to go out there and hey i'm going to die there's all this other stuff to buy and as a result some of the businesses that are in the manufacture of that they literally can't grow fast enough to keep up with demand. >> host: let's get to phonecalls. call in massachusetts republican caller you are on the air. go ahead. >> caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i have a two-part question for mr. smith in the first part is where is the marijuana being grown and he who is doing the growing? >> guest: in colorado if you sell it you have to grow it yourself. it's a law that's fairly new up there so there is no separation. i think the state feels like it has better control if they know the people are selling it are also growing it so if you sell it your responsibility is to
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grow it yourself. >> host: steve in aden ohio, independent caller. >> caller: hi there. i spend 20 or smoking marijuana and stopped five or six years ago and i feel a whole lot better. in every way since i quit with the real question is why do we want to smoke at? put some pot in a pipe and you smoke it in 45 seconds later you were intoxicated and you are that way for five hours. it's like putting -- that filters the rest of the world. it affects every part of your body. i know why i did it but i don't think it's healthy and that's going to be the question. why do we want to escape? >> guest: that is exactly the part of the question of the rush to get into this. what is the part of the social contract here are? you talk to law enforcement people and you talk to drug
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addiction experts and they say you know what we have said now is we are going to take one more intoxicant inputted into the public square and basically say it's okay to use. one of the things they know for sure is that marijuana really does have a serious effect on the brains of young people. if you live in a state like colorado where you have a 14-year-old kid who says hey they say it's legal how can this be much different from beer for instance? it turns out it's a lot different than beer especially the effects on the kid's brain. there's a lot of moving parts to this issue and it's very interesting who is on the side of legalizing the stuff. demographically the younger you or the more likely you are to say it's a good idea. right now gallup poll says 58% of the people in the country think legalization is a very good idea. a lot of libertarians say this is a personal responsibility and personal freedom.
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why should we restrict access to its? there's a huge conversation that the country is just now starting to have. colorado is the place where if you want to look and see what's going on that's the place to look. >> host: harry smith nbc news correspondent putting together special for cnbc. last night it aired at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. marijuana in america, colorado pot rush. mary weighs in on this issue of the impact on society saying social cost? no more stop and cops in neighborhoods no more violent but are good, tension free for destructive hard drug. trade. >> guest: it's very interesting because a lot of people we talked to in the sense that i get is decriminalization is a really good idea.
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it's baby steps after that leading towards legalization but i think the decriminalization is important in the standpoint of people whose lives who have been arrested for marijuana possession should be classified as a class 1 drug? should it be decriminalized? probably yeah. beyond that i think may be the best ideas to the tape baby steps. that is just my experience from having been involved in this for the last month or so. >> host: what is happening in colorado on this issue of criminal and legal issues? have a face more problems because of its? >> guest: yeah. it's interesting. we talked to the district attorney in boulder for instance. people say that's the people's republic of older and they are all left from who knows what. a big law and order guy, the highest conviction rate of any in the state but he said when it
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comes to a journey -- jury for marijuana casey says nobody cares and he senses that maybe this really is the way to go as your last e-mail or tweeter said was listen let's take it out of the hands of the criminal population. let's make it so the state has as much regulatory control is possible and if we can watch it that way and watch how it's distributed maybe we cannot not only decriminalize decriminalized it but take it out of the hands of the general population and some people say the criminal population wants to sell it as a gateway drug to get people in other stuff. if you just sell it as a regional drug people will use it and use it as people use alcohol. i said over and over again that week it's like watching a genie coming out of the bottle. we have no idea what we'll continue to happen has this genie grows and grows.
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>> host: to do look into the impact of those on drug dealers? >> guest: yeah. we met a drug dealer in boulder as a matter fact who said his business is as good as ever. he said the price of the marijuana in the retail stores is so high that he can undercut it easily so he said his business is just fine. i think maybe the other real stunning thing in all of this greta is just the whole notion that overnight the illegal. of marijuana can be of ilion dollar business in the state that is not that big a state with 2.5 or 3 million people. that's a lot of money in one year, ilion dollars. i think quite honestly we are beating these metaphors to death. this is just the tip of the iceberg. the demand for it is really quite substantial.
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>> host: boring file clerk tweets in so bottom line, is legal pot a boon for the state in terms of tax dollars? >> guest: i think that is what they are saying. don't be so tempted that this is just on the outside look so attractive because it's just when prohibition was lifted in 1933 the country basically said all those years before when the temperance movement was going ot ruins families etc. etc.. all these years later they say maybe the social contract is worth the trade. we will take the bad stuff with the benefits of having this so that's what hickenlooper is talking about. we are legalizing and intoxicant in what the downside is we are not really in a position to be able to measure that. >> host: varies up next
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elkhart indiana republicrepublic an caller. thanks for hanging on the line larry, go ahead. >> caller: we just had an accident in the south in indiana where gentleman driving a car was high on marijuana. do they have the same responses as a bartender selling somebody out golf? >> guest: yeah, you make a really good point eco-'s this is all brand-new territory and local law enforcement in colorado is trying to figure it out. if we stop the guy who we think is driving hide the only way you can find out the thc content in someone's blood is through a blood test. are we going to say we have consent to a blood test? the legal ramifications as you suggest can be almost infinite.
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if the guy is using thc and it's determined that he caused this accident or maybe even killed somebody on the highway, who then backwards in the food chain is responsible? a bartender, a guy is using a straight over-the-counter and walks out and kill somebody there is some responsibility back that way. on the other hand you are not going to go back to a liquor store and say you sold this guy a bottle of gin and he just killed somebody. it doesn't work that way so you pose a very interesting question because we have no idea where all of this goes. that is why as i say once again stop, slow down and see how this plays out and as the states decide or not decide how to seed a better roadmap to follow.
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>> host: joan e-mails in with the question about the quality of the pot and whether or not there are regulations there. are there any regulations as far as pesticides and herbicides on the plant's? >> guest: right. you know i think some places where advertising is all organic i think there's a sense sense out there that organic is better although it is a lot more difficult but i think there actually are regulations in the state in that regard. there is a lot of testing regulations going into effect so that if you go in and buy an edible for instance and it says it is this% thc what it says on the label actually has to be backed up through testing testi. you asked about the business. that's another business popping up are these testing centers and oh by the way the stuff they are selling in the stores of their is many more times more powerful
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than the stuff that was around when i was in college for instance. there were dinosaurs on earth when i was in college. >> host: you touched on a little bit those tasting parties. i want to show the viewers from the special you put together your profile of jane west. speak in a private art gallery in denver the cocktail crowd has shelled out $100 each to hobnob with hors d'oeuvres find and in some locally cultivated but. in many of colorado's -- this is the new normal. free from the cd confines of basements and backrooms pot is becoming a fixture of polite society. >> everyone brought different samples kind of like a wine tasting. >> this is jane west.
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speech and west is the orchestrator of this soirée. >> i've put together this idea of this event and there are 100 people so clearly there there ia market for this and there are people that want to be consuming cannabis together. >> she is a suburban 37 your old married mother of two and makes no apologies. >> i use marijuana and that's okay. >> host: harry smith what did you make of the martha stewart of pot? [laughter] >> guest: you know one of the reasons we showed -- we use that segment was this whole question of so does colorado wake up on the first day of january and say it's now a stoner nation? as you look at the dollars and cents that go along with the amount of sales there it goes way beyond the stereotype
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constituency. there are a lot of people out there from many walks of life who are using it on a fairly consistent aces. now they are just out of the closet so to speak. i talked to a colleague here at nbc the other day whose husband was on a business trip in colorado and they had business meetings and fail all day and ski all afternoon and go to breckenridge and buy pot. it's a different world than i think many of us suspect. >> host: what is it like when you're walking around the cities of colorado? did you see it everywhere? did you see businesses everywhere? >> guest: no, no. there were only 150 recreational retail stores and by the way if people didn't see it last night as you say it will be on again tonight. each town municipality in colorado can decide on its own if it wants to allow pot sales so for instance greely colorado
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which is a substantial town of over 100,000 people who said we will take a wait-and-see attitude. we don't want that in our town right now. if you talk to the police chief really smart guy in uniform for almost 40 years and he says look i have enough drop bombs the stuff i have problems with now. why would i want to introduce the sale of another intoxicant into my community? he said all of my fear some of what we talked about, if we wake up two or three years from now and my fears are unfounded that's fine but right now these are things i would rather not have to worry about. >> host: jake from new york democratic caller. you are on next. >> caller: there's a publication that i doubt anybody thinks about reading in "mother jones" called this is your wilderness on drugs. they're ingesting statistics about marijuana use and growing in california.
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they say in california during growing season they use over 60 million gallons of water. also they say that growing plants sets up as much electricity as 29 refrigerators and they talked about the damages done to the environment. i agree that maybe colorado may get around this but it's expensive and doing a lot of damage to the environments the way it's being done in california. >> guest: as it turns out i actually did see that piece and because the people, the legalizers would say that is why this stuff needs to be legalized. if you got into the wilderness of california where they are growing the stuff yes they are using tremendous amounts of pesticides herbicides who knows what that the environmeenvironme
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ntal destruction out there is quite phenomenal. this is marijuana growth that is outside the law so people who are legalizers would say that's one more reason to ring it under some sort of state jurisdiction because that way the environmental benefits to legalizing marijuana. it's a great feast. if people are interested in this as an issue go on "mother jones." it's a very good piece. >> host: there's a tweet from one or viewers who says that in the girl scouts to sell cookies in front of stores. they will make a fortune. jokes aside. >> guest: which is what happened last week in san francisco. a mom had her girl scout daughter set up in front of the medical marijuana dispensary and she sold out 157 boxes in record time. >> host: with jokes aside what are the other industries that
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are popping up because of what's happening? >> guest: that is the joke. i think that is the joke by the way that fritos sales going through the roof in colorado. it's interesting as you look at this someone of the things we talked about are these edibles. people go out there and because the stuff is so powerful it will take one of these vars and want to consume the whole thing and because it's so, the stuff that is in it is so powerful they say take a bite, maybe two bytes wait 45 minutes and see how you feel. a lot of people are so tempted by it they consume the whole thing. you won't talk for two days if you eat the whole thing. it's very very powerful stuff. >> host: that is because of the hash oil.
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you talked about this a little bit earlier that the thc level in hash oil is 80 to 90% versus regular marijuana which as you know in the teens so how are they addressing that issue? [laughter] >> guest: well you know it's part of the regulation we talked about in the testing that goes on if we say this bar has 3% thc that the state is trying to get a handle and making sure that what they sell isn't so super intoxicating. on the other hand we saw what is being made and they will take the hash oil now and they will make it into basically a clear sheet and a chunk that up into little tiny chunks and they smoke the little tiny chunks. that's like a super superpotent kind of thc experience. listen i have no idea. i was sitting there and i felt
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like i was flying by the seat of my pants. i've never seen anything like it and in the states where this medical marijuana has been around for a couple of years this is sort of normal stuff. for guys like me from the provinces come in and say holy cow i had no idea. >> host: the production of hash oil can be dangerous. >> guest: well especially if you are doing it yourself. the guys with the very sophisticated systems that we looked at, they spend small fortunes on the processing and the machinery for the processing. it's highly highly proprietary and as the legalization of the popularity popularitpopularit y of the stuff moves from state to state to state what they then do is they sell that system or at least the licensing for that system in different states because you can't transport the stuff over the state line.
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but the technology in the sophistication of the technology that is involved is really quite astounding and no, if you want to try that processing for yourself that really is one of those that don't try this at home. >> host: daniel springhill florida independent caller. >> caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. as far as manufacturing hash oil being dangerous, getting in and out of the shower can be dangerous and i'd just like to make that point. my issue is the federal government, marijuana is still illegal federally correct? a schedule one drug. in florida with god a group of people together and we decided to go to her state legislature and we said we want prostitution slavery and --
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legal. isn't it a form of secession and isn't treason to go directly against the federal law? the federal government does nothing. >> guest: listen i think that's a very interesting question and as you well know the federal government said once colorado had this referendum that said they could legalize that the federal government said we are not going to fight you about this and just as a depression one of the other huge issues out there is the banking industry doesn't want to get caught up because it says i'm not going to do business with a marijuana dealer because the federal government says this stuff is still schedule one and illegal. we will make it easier for you and they write up stuff and pass a law. you have not set the bar high
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enough. we are still not going to get involved in this ou have all these crazy loopholes here and in colorado all these marijuana businesses are all cash businesses. guys are walking into the western union office with pillowcases full of money to get money order so they can pay their utility bills. it's pretty crazy. there walking into their -- with brief cases full of cash. you have a good point until the federal government says maybe this is a class 1 drug and we maybe won't prosecuted the same way maybe the net will balance it out in some way. i'm not so sure it's secession necessarily but the government, you have the federal government and the state government. they are really an opposition right now at least in terms of pure love. >> host: we are talking with veteran journalist harry smith of nbc news about his special on
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cnbc that aired last night marijuana in america, colorado pot rush. if you missed it will re-air tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. judy in haines city florida republican caller, hi judy. good morning, go ahead. >> caller: i think this is the wrong thing they are trying to do especially when they say it's from god and grows from the earth. so does oil come out of the ground. are we supposed to drink that too? i pray every day that god will deliver him and to me i think a lot of people that i know smoke this and a lot of them have i-poll her in the act crazy. it is a sad society that we are living in that we have to stay stoned all the time. get got into your heart and you will have a natural high.
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>> guest: no doubt about that and as we say, we talk in the special which re-airs tonight at 8:00 in friday night at 10:00 we talked to drug addiction experts and this is a serious concern that they guess that probably some of the people who are exposed to marijuana like a lot of intoxicants will become addicted. nobody really has the sense that as a society says this is okay they we use this. we were talking with chris matthews last night and he says i have a feeling when we wake up a couple of years from now the state of colorado is going to be a lot less ambitious. is it insidious or innocent? i'm not so sure it's one or the other for someplace in between. >> host: that caller was from florida saying she disagrees with what they are doing their. as you mention the front page of "the new york times" this morning says at least 14 states
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including florida where an initiative has qualified for the ballot are considering new medical marijuana laws this year and according to the marijuana policy project that supports legalization and 12 states and the district of columbia are contemplating decriminalization of marijuana. let's go to dorothy in hampton virginia democratic caller. hi dorothy. >> caller: good morning. i would like to ask that her smith -- mr. smith to get the the statistics of the people who drink alcohol and smoked me wonder. if you have an ankle or an aunt if they are in there for more than two hours -- [inaudible] you get people that smoke marijuana they don't eat and
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they don't enjoy themselves. who kills people when they're drunk? did you check the statistics of that? >> guest: listen there is no question. i don't have a statistic per se but that is one of the big arguments and when people measure out the hall and marijuana right next to each other. it's one of the big arguments of the legalizers. they say people who use alcohol for a lot of people you know it makes them belligerent. it makes, it brings out violent behavior and as we say back in 1933 when we said we are going to start using this we said in our social contract that that is a cost that we are going to agree that somehow palatable as long as we are going to legalize it so for the legalizers that is
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one of the big arguments. do you know what? the cops aren't being called to domestic violence disputes because somebody got stoned. and as you really talk to law enforcement people they say a lot of people are drinking and getting stoned at the same time. it's not as cut and dried for black and white as that but i think the caller makes a pretty good point. if you get really stoned you are probably going to fall asleep. >> host: here's a tweet from one of our viewers dallas who wants to know does colorado tax marijuana like cigarettes? >> guest: oh my god but tax on the recreational stuff i think is about 36% and they think that tax revenues for the state in the first year or this year alone will be over $100 million. it's crazy.
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it's a super high tax. >> host: jeff in spencer. >> guest: that's the other part of this thing and no one is saying hey i'm sorry. it's not stopping anybody from buying the stuff. >> host: jeff and spencer west virginia independent caller, go ahead jeff. >> caller: for full disclosure that was a big toke her for years and i quit about 14 years ago when my son came along. we used to call it natures prozac. there is another side to this. our founding fathers notoriously had pills of marijuana. they grew it for different reasons. i am sure they smoked a little bit but the fibers in the marijuana the actual plant, not the blood are very strong.
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you can make clothing and paper for books. there is a wide range of stuff that you can use it for and it seems to me this can actually span out into maybe some stoner say hey man lets start making t-shirts and they get a little co-op going this way. this could be a little bit more money than just the tax revenue. >> guest: the hemp industry has grown by leaps and bounds and those of us of a certain age will remember if we grew up in the rural areas or spent time in the rural areas this stuff was growing wild all through the 60s especially during world war ii. tons and tons and tons of hemp was grown all of over the country. it's a marijuana plant without the thc in it basically and hemp
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was used as the caller suggests for fabric, for rope. it makes superstrong rope in the hemp industry is making a comeback as we speak. >> host: harry smith what is a pot to her? >> guest: well you pay a certain amount of money. you have party signed up for one i think. no, i am just joking. just trying to see what we can do on c-span2 see if we can get a laugh. what you do as you go on line and you type in pot tour and there are all these companies in colorado preview pay a certain amount of money and they will put you up in a beautiful hotel. you can get in a limousine with a tour guide. the tour guide will have different kinds of samples. you will go to a grow, go to a shop, go to a place where they have edibles and you will get a full-blown introduction as it
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were to what it's like to be around legal marijuana. we talked to a couple of people on the tour and they were very very happy to be here. >> the headline on cq says veterans benefits bill stalls in the senate. the author of that article is connor o'brien who it is a defense reporter with "cq roll call." what was was this veteran still all about and what all about avoided installing the senate?
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>> well thanks for having me bill. the bill itself is funded by the chairman of the senate veterans affairs committee from vermont and he called this the most significant veterans benefits reform bill in decades. among the things it does that kind of touches on a lot of things. it's a major expansion of va health care but among other things it does, it creates a dental pilot program to see if the va can in the future make it feasible to provide full dental care for veterans. it's an expansion of the va caregiver program for at-home wounded veterans. it extends state tuition under the g.i. bill so that it loosens the in-state residency requirements so veterans who are in a state going to a public college receiving in-state
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tuition as long as they are living there and attending school. it authorizes a slew of 27 medical facility leases in 18 states along with puerto rico and among the other things it does is it finishes off the one percentage cost of living that congress has been chipping away at over the last couple of months included in the ryan murray budget deal. >> it's a bill that has been on the senate floor for a couple of days so what was the roadblock that it hit? >> well there were a number of things and what eventually stopped it in its tracks was there was a budget point of order made i jeff sessions on the budget committee and basically because in fiscal year 2014 the fiscal year we are in right now, it's increased budget authority by tudor and 61 million over the ryan murray budget that congress agreed to a
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couple of months ago. they voted 56-41 with just four shy of the majority to wait that >> you tweeted about that saying this senate falls for votes short of waving the budget point of order on the veterans bill. moran and heller and republicans voting yes. why did republicans supported? >> there were a number of things. a lot of them didn't like the budget caps in the budget law and a number of them didn't like bill in general and just thought it was an opportunity to two kind of put it on the shelf. a number of republicans have expressed concern about expanding va health care in an already overburdened system. they express concern with the way senator sanders wanted to pay for the bills so there were a number of issues not just the mandatory number number.
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>> one of the headline grabbing issues was the amendment on iran. what was that all about? >> well basically republicans have been circling the wagon in the last few days on a substitute amendment by a ranking member on the veterans affairs committee and as i said it's a substitute amendment that would narrow some of the benefit provisions but in addition it had another round of iran sanctions which is more or less what was proposed by senators menendez and kirk in the last couple of months. again their contention was it had 59 co-sponsors and they thought it was time that it got a vote on the floor. >> you talked about chairman sanders and you attended his press conference afterwards. you tweeted that he rejects the idea that the veterans bill was a political issue and says it could have been a political winner for both hardee's.
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any chance it will be revived in the senate anytime soon? >> well that's unclear at this point. the budget point of order against the bill was a pretty strong blow to the legislation. under the rules now because that point of order would be taken back to the committee and the idea was that they have to now make corrections to the l. to comply with the budget law so senator sanders said he will go back at it and we will have to see from there because it was the -- fairly procedural blow. >> you can can read is reporting a "cq roll call".com and follow that as well on twitter at connor o'brien and age. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, bill. >> pearl harbor of course is in december of 41 and almost
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immediately people start talking about what is to be done with the enemy million population which includes german and japanese and italian foreign nationals who are enemy aliens of the japanese-american population in general on the west coast they were rounded up en masse and they had to leave their homes if they lived in what was called the western defense zone so they were removed. they were forced to leave and then they were put in camps surrounded by barbed wire. they were not charged with anything in particular. west coast non-japanese americans the population in general, most newspaper strongly supported the japanese americans. it was a very popular policy. the civil rights organizations which were largely based back east didn't pay much attention to them. and all of the major jewish newspapers on the west coast there were weeklies and they had editorials talking about how the
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rights of all have to be protected and we should fight prejudice and all of its forms and so on and so forth without ever saying the word japanese specifically so it was almost as if i wanted to say something but werner verse about actually doing so. there was i call it a kind of awkward silence or an uncomfortable silence around this issue that i started to investigate more. ..
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>> a senate appropriations subcommittee looked at the status of research into alzheimer's disease. members heard from francis collins, the head of the national institute of health who said federal investment in alzheimer's research pales in comparison to how much the disease costs the country. a second panel included actor said revenue testified about his brother-in-law's struggle with the disease. this is two hours. >> today's hearing is th


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