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. in the end the court ruled against the eniac people but did not award the patents to anyone. >> we have a trustee, a very famous figure in computer history who calls that lawsuit that this invention of the computer. >> exactly. with all due respect to the lawyers in the room it is best not to leave the whole notion of historical invention to copyright lawsuits. there is a wonderful one where jack kilby at texas instruments and bob noyce and gordon moore almost simultaneously do the microchip. that is a huge lawsuit for many years but they were both such decent people. they always gave each other credit. that suit went on and on and on. finally they just got together and shook hands.
let's get the lawyers out of this. >> let's go back to the any act women. a little-known obscure story and computing. they recruit young women, mostly mostly math majors from small, midwestern colleges bring them all to pennsylvania and decide that they are going to be assigned the task of programming this computer. why are they simultaneously so obscure and yet plays such an important role? >> partly because this happened during the war. originally done to calculate missile trajectories for artillery tables. as the war is ending in 46 they realize that it has to do other things. i wanted to no if this hydrogen bomb concept will
actually work. and women are the ones who understand how to program it they get written out because the boys with their toys thought that they were in charge, and the day that they unveil eniac finally in 1946 it is valentine's day. the new york times is there all sorts of dignitaries and finally show off this new machine. jean jennings nick francis and others do the program. they have to stay up all night because they had one thing wrong. they figured they figured it out, and it works perfectly for the demonstration.
everyone goes to this wonderful candlelit dinner black-tie, in the pages of the new york times, but the women are not invited. they take the bus back to their apartments feeling bad that they did not get invited to the dinner. when you wonder about women and technology, we all have to have role models. you have got to put these people back into the history so that everyone feels included. >> i think i think as you no we inducted -- [applauding] absolutely. >> you inducted jean. >> we inducted jean as a fellow. >> you should buy her autobiography which was published posthumously posthumously, and it is online now. just pioneer programmers. and here is some little thing that you should know.
from atlantis grove, missouri, a town of 127 people, whatever. one of seven people, whatever. one of seven or eight children, a poor farm family and decides she wants to go to college because her family cares about education. education. for about $78 year she gets to go to missouri state. she decides she wants to be a mathematician. back then that was fine. so for that $78 and four years she becomes a mathematician and she is the advertisement come to philadelphia and work on eniac. we we need mathematicians. she goes and becomes this pioneer programmer. that college right now costs $14,000 per year. we should not cut off the ability to allow everybody to get a good education. [applauding] anyway read jane's book.
>> and she was so accomplished in her own right that she went with markley and continued her career. >> and the other woman pioneer programmer at harvard. the good thing, they may not have invited women to that dinner, but they made up for it because they hired a lot of these women. hired her and married her. she became one of the great pioneer programmers. it is interesting that fewer women go into computer science now then did 20 years ago. that is why it is good to have sheryl sandberg and marissa and others here. >> there is a terrific film called top-secret rosie's about the history of these
women programmers. >> there is another one. well, you should go online. there are a couple of documentaries that have been made. >> let's move on. you mentioned the semi conductor earlier. i want i want to talk now about the transistor and the integrated circuit but i want to draw a contrast the way that you explain the way teams of collaboration happen. contrast. contrast two very different approaches, the shockley approach and his team working on the transistor on the one hand and then the integrated circuit on the other.
talk about the genius inventor. >> of course you all know, a genius but paranoid and eventually racist. he is at bell labs by far the coolest place for collaboration in the 1930s and 40s. throughout the mid to late 40s to figure out how to do many things one of which is amplify a phone signal. they need a solid-state amplifier. and so shockley leads the solid-state team at bell labs. i love bell labs because it is the ultimate place-based collaboration where in the hallways there you have this guy claude shannon, john bardeen shockley but they share a workspace. they know how to take a piece of silicon which is a solid conductor that you can
make it conduct better or worse and therefore be an on off switch a solid-state amplifier. and it means understanding both quantum theory and material science like what is happening to those electrons dancing in the surface estate of a piece of silicon. so they are doing all of these things. they almost do our call and response. a composer at a bench doing this. they figure out ways to make the various materials they are using and to better semi conductors even using a paperclip, working under shockley. they finally do it. shockley contributed many of the theories but has been a bit hands-off. unlike the heroes of this book, he book, he does not like giving credit as much
as he likes taking credit. he is furious when they are put on the application for the patent and insists he be in the press releases and even insists that in the publicity photos he'd be in it and just as they were taking this photo at bell labs for the publicity shots they were all standing up. he up. he sits down and grabs bronze microscope as if it is his and makes himself the center. they hated the photograph from then on. on. they do not speak to each other for a while. the only time they really speak is when they win the nobel prize and all meet in a hotel room that evening and are both in the same restaurant and they forgive each other.
shockley comes out, starts shockley semi conductor and is just as paranoid. paranoid. none of the people from bell labs will come work with him he has heard of these young engineers, gathers them but after a while they just cannot stand working for shockley. the pictures you have downstairs and those notebooks are because those men decided the way to run a company is not this authoritarian bossy, you know, glory hogging way that shockley has been doing it and start intel a rome almost like like this, a big room no one has a corner office. a beat up desk in the center
of the room along with more and others no hierarchy and invents not only the microchip but the silicon valley culture of that open nonauthoritarian, non- hierarchical company. >> we had gordon here for the 50th anniversary. >> i love driving up and sitting there and listening to him. >> someone asked him what it was like. it is true he was a difficult guy to work for but seems to be a good judge of talent. talent. [laughter] >> probably the only egotistical thing he said. he probably did not mean it to be in the testicle but he was right. >> i don't i don't think he was intending to talk about himself, but it the same laugh. so the anomaly in the ecosystem, and ecosystem and i want to ask you why it is that some teams that
seemingly have those ingredients of the genius that genius innovator and the practical engineer and the ecosystem builder, why do some succeed and some not? >> partly you have to get it right. his big failure was not being a jerk but he came up with a transistor which he kept insisting would work but did not. but usually if you get the right ecosystem with visionaries, people that can execute and turn into product, that is another thing. sometimes you forget you need a business person who can turn it into a real product. they realize the transistor is cool but you need products to go with it. >> and you remind us all the transistor radio was not
only the perfect implementation but revolutionized american culture. >> i love the transistor radio. it makes our devices personal not doing the alan turing create artificial intelligence. the people the people at texas instruments figured out that you have these transistors, but you need a market that is a true mass-market. radios were then a shared appliance, just like many things. something that is shared that suddenly someone makes personal. what they do they finally make the regency transistor radio around 1957 and it allows you to control the dial instead of your parents allows parents, allows you to take it to the
beach or the backyard. that same month elvis presley puts out his first album. i am convinced there is a symbiosis that time. rock music had a hard time taking off if it was only that radio in the living room. by the way transistor radios became a must-have thing. i remember in the early 60s getting my transistor radio. and you could listen to any music you wanted, especially the ones your parents to not like. you have that symbiosis just like the automobile industry and the oil industry but more importantly, if you want to look at the trajectory of digital revolution it is making machines more personal, taking a computer
and finally you can put it on your lap radio, ipod, no one no one knew we needed a thousand songs in our pocket until steve jobs said music's music is personal. >> the perfect segue to our fourth story the pc the altar and now, and completely bound up in the story of bill gates and paul allen. >> and steve wozniak. >> and steve jobs. i want to to talk about that. let's focus on gates and alan. you write about their relationship and detailed and personal terms. i wonder, when you started this book did you intend to examine the personal relationship? >> when i talk about collaborative teams and visionaries and engineers
often they have a kernel a pair all the way down the list to people who work together to form the kernel of the operating system. and so i was always -- i i talked to bill gates from the beginning. he he said make it about the pc and the internet. i interviewed him many times but the important thing is it does exactly what we said takes something that is a big impersonal thing that up until then we feared would be orwellian controlled by the government and pentagon
and big corporation and makes it something a hobbyist can do. with all due respect it is a pretty rinky-dink thing. people went nuts because you could make you do things. it did not have any programming. that is where bill and paul come in. one of the of the things we were covering journalists like to believe if you have a great product one of the cool things that ed roberts did was get it on the cover of popular electronics. so paul allen in december of that year is going to the harvard square newsstand in
the middle of harvard square because his friend, bill gates, is at harvard and has convinced ball to drop out and leave and come to cambridge and not really do much of anything. he sees he sees this and says it is happening without us. he trudges through the slush and says this is happening without us. though, as you know, starts rocking. he is reading and rocking. write about to go to an exam. he blows off the exams exams, and he sits there using the computer right next to the mock one and they write basic for the altar. bill gates basically does not say that this time but paul allen can at least
grow sideburns. they realize he we will have to be the one to bring it to albuquerque but bill is in charge. charge. so they decide that bill should call ed roberts but say he is paul allen. ed roberts says bring it. then paul allen flies to albuquerque, and albuquerque, and they make the first of two really good deals. fine. you can have basic but we keep the rights and get to license it to anyone else. it is what they do with ibm with the operating system. that is why it becomes the standard the microsoft basic becomes the standard. >> the anecdote it is telling. you talk about it.
there is another anecdote earlier young boys working in seattle. there are four of them. they get a contract. paul allen becomes convinced that he can work and they take it on and try to do this job for a company in portland. .. and discover they cannot do it so allen calls gates to say we are in trouble the and you have to come back. want to read this because it is so interesting and gates says okay but i will be in charge. and it will be hard to deal with me unless i am in charge. if you put me in charge i.m. in charge of this and anything else we do. >> and the rest is history. >> that is an interesting story.
[laughter] and it turns out that way. you have to have somebody who is really the driven visionary and you know was a spent on the stage. when i spoke about the steve jobs book you had he was sitting right there. we talked about it and in the end he realizes you know okay steve jobs really did start driving the show. and likewise bill gates really did start driving microsoft and he becomes more and more in charge. i tried to be not judgmental about that. and you know i know you should read paul allen's book and paul allen's memoir is very good and i think he has some resentment but bill gates was pretty awesome and he knew how to code and run a company.
>> there are several other passages he she referred to in this section where it seems clear allen doesn't really capitulate as much as he just says i just understood this was the way we could best work together and this is the way we could actually get things done and they seem to take their roles on. >> sometimes we think these partnerships and collaborations are mysterious but then you should step back and realize that's the way -- we evolve into things like that. i would have been on "cnn" and some other things and you have to think sometimes this is the way life is and sometimes partnerships have a lot of tension in it that these partnerships are very productive. i will tell you the last product launch i went to for apple very near the end for steve. i was in the green room and there was wise and we shouldn't be too judgmental about partnerships that have tension
on them especially when they create microsoft and apple. >> that's the final relationship i want to turn to and then we'll get into --. >> there are $600,000. >> do you see the armed guard we have over there? >> i was hoping that was my gift. [laughter] >> is told such a complete story of steve jobs in your book and i'm wondering in this book did you want to eliminate anything or did you discover? >> first of all i tell it through woz' contributions of people don't feel gypped and they feel like they have already read that chapter but here's what i discovered i discovered when writing about steve jobs. we think he's the great visionary and that you know out
of his head comes apple and all of these things. andy is a great visionary but what he did extraordinarily well is that even though he was tough to deal with even though he was a strong cup of tea at times and he could be tough on people at times he develops an incredible set of teams in those teams are very collaborative and one of the last things i asked steve jobs was what the -- what what was the thing you created that you are the most proud of? i study would say the iphone or whatever. he said no creating a product is very hard at but creating a company that can continue that product is even harder. the thing i am the proudest of is creating the team that became apple. so look at the original team in 1980 to 1984. half of them have been in this room from andy herzfeld to joanna hoffman and others. all of them would say how hard it was to work with steve but every one of them would say i
think i was a quote i had in the highlights reel that i would not give it up for anything in the world. he made me do things i didn't know i could do any look at all these bosses in the valley over the years. they don't have teams that stay loyal. people quit all those other companies but whether was the original mcintosh team or the team that steve had at apple the past decade that's an incredibly good team of people like tim cook who knew how to execute and people like johnny ives who had a great feel for beauty and art people like schiller who started the software. i discovered that steve besides being a visionary he was also a team builder. he probably doesn't get enough credit for being a collaborative team builder because if you looked up collaboration on wikipedia you probably wouldn't
see his picture. [laughter] but in the end he deserves credit for building the most loyal team of any computer company. >> now lest we give people the impression we are on a journey that stops a 1996 you do a wonderful job bringing the story current talking about the on line world. this is long before the internet and the world wide web and in the rise of internet and go weiss of the world wide web on top of the internet. what in that whole mix do you fasten on is the story that you thought was emblematic of that? >> emblematic of the digital revolution was the creation of alternet and starting with licklider. if you have to have one or two unsung or little song heroes licklider is once again this mystery person likes giving credit more than taking it. when he's doing this major defense system at m.i.t. and other places later he presents a
notion of the interactive computer display that's easy to read. if you are doing an are doing in air defenses are doing an air defense system he have to know you have to be fast and interactive. he also realizes you have a downstairs. you have to have 23 of these things all over the country and they have to instantly connect. he comes up with a humorous phrase the intergalactic computer network. he finally gets the pentagon and the funds of their net and then these cool people doing arpanet working collaboratively to create the protocols for the host to host communications and then eventually ben surf and bob khan who had been the graduate students for arpanet refused years later saying they now have a few packets which they need to
enter network hence the phrase internet so they did tc ip together. one of the things i noticed as i grew up when i was running digital media for times incorporated was back in 1990 or so the internet is really big and it's wonderful. you can't get on it if you are just a normal person. you have to be at the university or in a research lab. you can't just from home dial-up. likewise the personal computer the people who invented it from allen kay to steve jobs or whatever they kind of wanted it as a personal creativity tool. it was not seen as a network. in 199294 something amazing happens which is we get to interconnect dark personal computers. it starts with the on line services that are then connected to the internet meaning the well well eventually steve case helps take over america on line
which was sort of a flailing company started by meister but once again he needed a team like the visionary like jim kinsey and steve case who could implement it. and then i think it's, i can't remember exactly maybe 93 it was called in the september because all of you denizens who didn't like the unwatched coming on every september there would be a new wave of people who would come to the internet because they went to college and all of a sudden i get on the internet and now it's called the september problem because they all come on in post on the bulletin boards and different things. eventually they would get it straight and be okay. aol because of al gore which as you know al gore in the 1992 gore act allows the internet to be opened up to on line services. aol and delphi are the first to do it. i remember it vividly because
suddenly we could go on to aol and then happened open gate to go onto the internet. it was called the endless september because from then on all these people started glomming onto the internet but it is a really good thing. it allows the internet to get back to the theme of the book to become something the rest of us can use. >> you match that up to the cultural transition that holocaust almost where we are going through with all the turmoil in the united states and the complete of people of social norms and campus unrest in the idea that information was really going to be free. everyone needed to be a part of that and this marriage of on line computing. >> it happens right here. this is the epicenter.
this is the g spot. a better locus term for it and it really begins in the 70s and all the way through. this is a long section in my book which i crowdsource. i've put these passages on line and people like stewart brand and many other liza loop who i've never met before but it was a community organized to put it on the site medium and other sites where you could put those in and add things in. these chapters became crowdsourced by the people involved and there was a whole melding. that would go back to the 70s for that happening. right here you have the electronic geeks the people wearing their pocket protectors. but you also have the whole crowd that believes in access to
tools. stewart brand every two years as doing something really cool. he actually on line help to edit this chapter and then you have the antiwar activists who want to -- but don't spindell, folder midway. dad became an antiwar statement that we don't want corporations to own our machines. you actually have the hippies and the acid test and out out of that come stewart and doug engelbert. so there's a cauldron that has this one common flavor antiauthoritarian let's take a tools back. let's make the tools personal and that's when the personal personal computer arises and in the notion of switch boards, bulletin boards on line services, the well and eventually the world wide web.
>> use of this project aside to work on the steve jobs biography. first of all you have been working on for a long time. how difficult was it for you and secondly how well-informed do you feel you were to enter into this project? >> well i have been gathering strength for maybe 15 years on this book ever since the early 90s when i was doing media and because my bosses were saying go after this internet. as i said i'm probably not the best historical researcher in america. you have leslie burke who knows the archives at stanford. and i may not be the best journalists. you have bob woodward but i know how to mesh the two. i know how to call him as they want to come to your house.
i had a really good fortune in my life of having been in a place like "cnn" or "time" where if i call larry page and say look i really want to sit down with you. he says fine and i show up and i spend time doing it. so i have that little advantage that comes from being a journalist so i tried to put those two things together and doing this book which it took throughout the 90s. every time i'm interviewing we made andy grove man of the year but saying how did and socom about and that went into this folder here. i was in no rush to write this book especially when i had a chance to do the steve jobs book book. but you know the time and come and i really wanted to pull it together.
>> now let's talk about questions from the audience. here's one about bell labs about being such an incredibly innovating place in the 30s and 40s. what do you think about the bell labs of today? >> you know it's a shame that whether it be xerox or bell labs or many other of these great corporate institutions we had a lot of corporate basic research that was being done. i think you see that some at google now with the google -- google app. you also had one of the unsung heroes who wrote not only the recipe in 1945 for the personal computer and internet wikipedia and a lot of other things but also besides helping pay beyond and the war research in the manhattan project for the u.s. government and other things he put together this triangle of
corporate research centers universities like stanford, harvard and m.i.t. and private corporations and you have things like rand that almost falls in between. those were the days the lab was that the highlight of that in which we did basic research in this country. as they say in this book you have got to read every congressman should be made to read science, the next frontier which is his memo to eisenhower who becomes great. eisenhower is the perfect president to bring together the academy academy, the military and corporations. what bush says in the memo by treman but which eisenhower implements is basic research is the seed corn for which we will
get future inventions. it turns out to be right. the internet, the laser the microchip whatever it may be. we are decimating that now. stanford is a great job combining academic and corporate but the cutbacks of our basic research funding by corporations and the federal government is one of the things i worry about. this which is a nice way of saying i think bell labs is a great place. >> a number of people may have read the book since it's been out for a whole week. if you have read the book and if your name appears in the index please raise your hand. charlie fine, standup. [applause]
charlie unknowing that he was going to be in history is sitting at the lab at ucla when they are connecting the arpanet and the arpanet was a precursor to the internet. and the amps they were called. >> they were called amps that but they were basically just packets. >> interface message processors was the acronym we had to use. i think one was at stanford. >> i was working on the terminal at ucla and monitoring his computer at stanford. i was trying to login which in those days you have the word login. >> sri not stanford. >> i'm sorry. >> we know the difference between sr and stanford. >> by the way sri fits into what i was saying. >> any way i typed in al and he
got the al and i typed in o in the garden auld and i typed to g and he got a g and he said my system crashed. i will call you back. [laughter] >> who else is in the index? >> obviously al and a few others. that's an even better answer since we are getting live testimony. >> is like a quakertown meeting. >> it's a lot longer than a tweet which is even better. >> this is a wonderful question actually. now you have worked on some of the epic feats -- figures. as reading and researching these things as a changed? has it changed her outlook, the way that you think about yourself? >> well is really this book that changed it because albert einstein is the only exception to the rule. he is a loner and he is padding
around especially in the 19 period or 1950. he is jewish and he's not exactly part of a collegial group. he comes up with the greatest and most elegant theory in the history of science which was the general theory of relativity. otherwise very few people are loners. collaboration is a team sport and innovation and creativity involves collaboration. i realized that i was never going to be not only einstein but not steve jobs or bill gates or whatever in putting together teams and getting people to collaborate. you all are isolated from it but i live in washington d.c.. this notion of good find common ground to collaborate has disappeared. i love being at the aspen institute which is part of the mission there. to say how do we put together
teams of people to solve problems? so i became more fixated on what steve case would call the rise of the west. going around the country saying innovation can happen anywhere. i'd i go back to new orleans my hometown and see what's called intellectual property. it's a building building with a village in it with people working together collaboratively collaboratively. you ugoda austin eniko anywhere and you see these things. i became more interested in this notion of innovation being a collaborative sport and being a team sport. >> and you wouldn't can't find matches to silicon valley although we are happy with the way you do it. >> i think the digital revolution and this is a little bit too hard to get into here but i try to in the book come it's almost ingrained in the genetic code of the internet and the whole digital revolution that there is a distributive pier to pier network way of
creativity. arpanet and the internet were built and bob noyce and gordon formed a company. just like every single node on the internet is in some ways powerful and can switch and store and distribute information information. that notion of peer-to-peer networking i think is very integral to the digital revolution and thus makes the creativity of it. but that will be true of the next biotech revolution and others as well i suspect. >> you mentioned you put sections of your book to crowdsource and there's a question about that. how satisfied are you with that? >> i was blown away. this is not new. benjamin franklin creates the
colonial postal service partly so people can share ideas, documents. he was a scientist as you know. he formed the american philosophical society so these papers could exchange. we have been doing that you now forever. when i was at "time magazine" wrote a story that got sent to all the bureaus for comments and corrections. when i read a book and send it to 20 to 40 friends and say comment, correct. now when one day when i put it up on medium this chapter in silicon valley that formed this antiauthoritarian wonderful -- i got 17,800 comments and corrections which is really cool. [laughter] i will tell you a lot of them are in there. and here's something -- i will float this idea.
this book should not be just a book handed down by an author. you and i are going to work together and turn this into a multimedia book next year. i don't know for ready to announce it. >> we just did. >> the next thing i want to do is a book like this should be somewhat like a wikipedia document where everybody everybody can have things but also multimedia. so charlie kline can take his logs from that first date of arpanet and upload them and it becomes part of the book. al alcorn can do this seem from pong in the book and say let me put it up them by the way i have pictures and video. thousands of people can do a collaborative book. as an author i think it probably should be curated but our role should be as curators of us
crowdsourced living multimedia book that's in the next phase of it i hope in the revolution will be with bitcoins or other easy curtsies. it allows it and it is collaboratively created and crowdsourced. that's money and i think that content shouldn't always be free. if people pay 10 bucks for the digital version of the book that money can be allocated just like the world sees from songs or whatever are allocated. so i envisioned five or 10 years from now collaborated crowdsourced curated world to shared multimedia forms of narrative history. and we will do it here. >> we will do it here, absolutely. [applause]
there is one additional story before we leave this area that i would love for you to tell which is your own experience trying to change the wikipedia entry about albert einstein. >> when wikipedia came up and i think it's 9495 this miracle year where all these things are happening like a lot of people i was fascinated about the power of collaborative crowdsourcing. and so i was then finishing or doing, can't remember this biography i wrote on albert einstein. i would go looking around and people would say wikipedia is not reliable and i am stunned at how reliable it is. of course idiots can put things in that they have their roots -- revision button and the crowd reverts things that are bad. actually reversion wars have been fought on wikipedia with more intensity than i think real
wars that we are fighting now. but somehow it turns out right. so the wikipedia entries on albert einstein says that in 1937 he secretly traveled to albania but the kings god gave him a visa to escape the nazis. not one word of that sentence is true but it's there on wikipedia. so i take it out. boom, comes back and i says the citations from a passionate albanian expatriate who has web sites in which somebody says my uncle once told me that he was walking down the street and a matt albert einstein. so you know it has references to weird web sites and somebody's cousin said his uncle newt kings god and give him a visa. so meander my real name and the wikipedia handle and by the way
here is where he was. he was at princeton and here's the passport he was using. swiss. he was not an albanian. finally it comes out. the entry turns out to be correct. at first i did not attribute this to the system of crowds because the wisdom of crowds got it wrong. i was the one who fixed it. then i realized that i'm just part of the crowd. every now and then i added a tiny bit of wisdom to the wisdom of the crowd but that is what the crowd was. it included me and you and everybody else. that is when i became a fan of crowdsourcing and collaboration and the wisdom. >> i loved your vision of the future telling history. i would love to collaborate with you on that.
so that's it on the audience question and i want to close with a return to the theme you sounded earlier. he credited steve jobs with it. it's very much an original idea for you and away the way you are talking about it these days. you gave the jefferson lecture at the national endowment for the humanities and you talked in great -- great detail about the intersection of the humanities and technology. it's a theme you are beginning to explore. i wonder if he would talk a little bit more about it. >> the book begins with data and it ends with data and it ends with a deaf forever because her vision of a combination of human creativity and machines has turned out to be more powerful even though someday we will hit the singularity invite everybody back but it's 20 years away and 20 years more way. in the meantime the connection of human creativity augmented by the power machines has proven good. even today the end of the book
is with google. the google algorithm is not just some computer algorithm. it's a computer algorithm that also connects to the individual human judgments millions a day made by people who put links on their web. so it's a combination of human creativity and computer processing. when you have jenny robinson here asked her what are they watching for today to collaborate with doctors? teams in which the computer and the human can always be the best human are the best computer. so i believe and not and the part of that vision of ada lovelace is if you are going to connect human technology you have to connect the humanities to the sciences. you have to feel comfortable with both. that is what google is all about and that is what justin hall creating blogging is all about.
that is what ed williams when he does bloggers and twitter. medium his new platform isn't just about computer platforms. it's about connecting it and making it more intimate and more personal. allen kay's got that vision at xerox. make it personal. stand with the connection of the humanities in our technology. maybe someday there will be a singularity in which the machine will leave us behind. lord byron was there with barry shelley when they were at frankenstein's monster which is the great theme of that. i have always believed that those who feel comfortable have the intersection of the humanities and the sciences are like steve jobs the people that
will be the most creative. >> we like our authors to read a little bit in their own voice. let's close if we could with that. these are two paragraphs from the end as you call it. we will start there an end right there. i am your producer. >> thank you very much. we humans can remain relevant in an era of cognitive computing because we are able to think different, something that an algorithm by definition cannot master. we possess an imagination that as ada lovelace said quote brings together things, facts ideas and conceptions in new original and less ever varying combinations. we discern patterns. we appreciate their beauty. we leave information into narratives. we are storytelling as well as
social animals. human creativity involves values values intentions, aesthetic judgments emotions personal consciousness and a moral sense. these are what the arts and humanities teach us and why those realms are is a valuable part of science technology engineering and math. if we mortals are to uphold their end of the human computer symbiosis come if we are to retain a role with creative partners with our machines we must continue to nurture the wellsprings of our imagination and originality and our humanity. that is what we bring to the party. >> fantastic. >> thank you. [applause] before walters leaves he's about to be even more generous with
us. walter got up essentially at 3:00 this morning our time because he was on television at 6:00 a.m. on morning joe. that's emblematic of what walter has done. he is but the museum front and center in much of the discussions he has been bringing forth publicly about the history of computing and the role of this technology and the implications for the future. we were front and center sunday morning with cbs. we were doing the interview here and i want to public -- publicly acknowledge and thank walter not just for the work he has done. >> thank you all for supporting the museum. >> please thank me in thanking walter. [applause]