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the strength of the book is these stories were very personal and intimate stories but only three stories. it's a very close look at three individuals and there certainly are other stories that could be told. one of the things i find very interesting about the rings she selected, michelle signed up because she thought she would get fit. that's the level she was thinking about. debbie was doing it out of patriotism and asthma was doing it for hope of education. those are the real issues here. i think there is time for one more question. >> i have a and a question. i thought one of the really
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interesting issues was the social class. how are her children doing? that was part of the issue as well. >> last fall we went to washington and we were asked to speak at the armed services committee about the experiences they've had as women. during that conversation, i was discussing what it meant to deploy single mothers. in the book you would see in close detail how her children are careful for during hurt to
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year-long absences. her son is a little bit older but her girl is young. the question for children is even something that the department of defense is looking at. when we had the draft we didn't draft single parents of either gender. there is a reality that we have these children at home when their parents are off at war. when i finish talking she war. when i finish talking she took the microphone and said i just want to add something to that. she said i earned a lot of money during my deployment. i earned combat pay and i chose
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to fulfill those orders. i appreciated having that opportunity to earn that money. i earned a lot more money during this than what i was waking making at a waitress at a truck stop. i didn't want my experience to be used in a way that would deny anyone else and economic opportunity. she was essentially saying you might think it's not a great thing for a single mom but that's easy for you to say because you weren't trying to raise my children on what i was earning. she told me later that she thought my perspective was persnickety and upper class. i think she was right.
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the class angle is there and it's very real. if you speak about it in a certain way it makes you look like you are talking down on people and i wouldn't like i wouldn't like that at all. she is not someone who wants to be seen as a victim. there is something there in my perspective that i don't think it's great as a society to deploy single mothers and i feel that propensity on our part because i feel the children are suffering as a result but i think there's i think there's a lot there that we could talk about for a long time. she actually got all around they weren't supposed to allow
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single mothers _-dash you're making an important observation. she actually got married right before she went to training. or she could have given up custody of her child but she chose to marry her boyfriend so she was technically no longer a single mom. there are many people who end up in her situation later on because the marriage didn't work. if you are married when you sign up and later does morrison have custody of your children you can
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still get appointed orders. the long-distance parenting that she does is heartbreaking. heartbreaking. she is trying so hard to be there for her kids and be there mother. i'm afraid i have to and there. thank you. please don't forget shall be signing upstairs. i rode to the white house coverage continues with two more candidates in the presidential race in the comer coming days. expect another entry for the republican bid.
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lindsey graham will officially declare his candidacy. you can watch that on c-span. the summer book tv will cover book festivals from around the country and top nonfiction authors of books. rely that book expo america in new york where the publishing industry showcases their books. were live in chicago. there's a phone call near the end of june. watch for the book reviews from the presidential library. at the beginning of september we are live in the nation's capital. they're celebrating the 15th year of the book festival.
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next ben shapiro, the people against barack obama. he talks about his book and response to phone calls. this is just under an hour. >> we are pleased to be joined by best-selling author radio talkshow host mr. shapiro and his latest book coming out in paperback. ben shapiro what's on your mind? >> presidential races always on my mind. if i have to watch hillary clinton for much longer, i'm not sure i can take it.
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if you ever watch polar express you know how it's just realistic enough but not realistic enough that you feel comfortable. hillary clinton is there. she has an address in the uncanny valley. it's slightly odd and you wait for the switch to go on in her head. so that's fun and on the republican side of the aisle, we are watching them bash each other. that's part of a beautiful sunday and not thinking about the presidential race. >> how unique are you? >> young, jewish, pretty outspoken. >> if you find young orthodox
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jews i am certainly a statistical anomaly. this is the differentiating factor. i am to the right. >> you report recently wrote a column on this issue. >> will basically ethnically i'm a democrat but you know i'm republican. if you're not a self identified catholic even though you were born into a catholic family, same if you are jewish but you
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don't participate in jewish tradition, then at that point people fall left. you just describe. >> is the state of california a lost cause for republicans? >> yes. >> there is a short road and a long road in california. the short road is that people here like the fact that crime rates are going down and we spent all her money on water.
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the long road is all of these things happen and nobody does anything about it. the stat state is collapsing in on itself and then the republicans have to come in and clean it up. so it's going to take a little while longer for that to happen. the republicans seem like they want to run as democrats. that's not going to be anything effective here if you want real democrat kratz vote for them here in california. basically there is two theories of how you win an election. election. there's a theory that ronald reagan used where i'm going to convince them that there on my side and then the other is i'm you to convince them that i'm on their side. we live in the era of brock
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obama and voter turnout. it's really about having the numbers and getting them to come out. >> who do you like? >> it's hard to say and i'll do the copout. i don't know who i like at this point. i know who i don't like. i don't like jeb bush on the republican side. i side. i think hillary is more formidable than people are giving her credit for. it's not really about hillary it's what she represents to a lot of people. they are dedicated to the idea of another clinton in the white house. on the republican side they all have their flaws. rand paul is very strong in one sector of the republican party and mike huckabee who is much
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more blue-collar but will have a hard time reaching out to the tea party. scott walker is writing above the fringe so it looks like he's french so it looks like he's doing well in the fringe but he doesn't do well on the national frame. do any of these guys ever come on your radio program? >> yes sometimes, huckabee has been on a morning show that i a morning show that i do before. we've had a lot of these guys and i've met a lot of them. i think a lot of them are good people. not that they don't have faults but they are good people. >> what's your criminal case against the president? >> we should change the laws so
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we can bring racketeering charges against the federal government which would essentially shut down the federal government. there are multiple counts that i bring up in the obama administration including invasion of privacy violation of internal revenue service laws with the targeting of political conservative groups and everything from the failure to provide benghazi details and a lot of other criminal activity going on. : criminal scandals certainly involved in the enormous scale of obstruction of justice they will get away with it and there will be no consequences and this is what happens when an executive is out of control.
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bill clinton was an executive out of control. this goes back to the 100 year history of the executives grooming and power by leaps and bounds. all of that is very frightening to the citizens or it should be which is why i call for something radical to sue the federal government and the injunction on the federal policy which is admittedly did the unthinkable. i don't know what the alternatives are. they can do whatever he wants even criminally speaking and given the fact that no one is getting engaged because he decided that this taboo there are no ramifications for a president that >>
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>> ben shapiro is a strong executive in direct relationship with the week congress? >> guest: yes brother is a balance of power written to the constitution it would suggest it is a zero sum game also the supreme court has given a lot of power to the executive branch so there is no one to check them. the goal of the legislature there is a recent article one is not the presidency but the legislature it takes article to to get to the presidency which is closely circumscribed and the thought that it has grown so much to where the president
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can make immigration policy or talk about unilaterally raising taxes unilaterally putting climate change restrictions on the american people via the executive branch agency, he wants to the loosening sanctions regime with iran obviously he falls within the purview of the power approved by congress the president has almost no boundaries at this point is just a matter of how hard he pushes. it is a result of congress such as the president but the congress has to give now we have a system in the united states, i wrote my thesis on this where checks and balances have been given away because political incentives do not match up in any real way with holding power. the president gains power and credibility with the american people the more he exercises power. congress gains popularity by not doing anything by
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tossing over everything to the executive branch because they consider the president screwed it up. i say go do good stuff if he did bad stuff that is his problem so then they are reelected part of the president can be as active as he wants to congress has the incentive not to and the supreme court as justice roberts stated the incentive is to stay out of that battle because they don't want to cause a lebes striking down acts of the president of united states that is where justice roberts to rule on obamacare without a president there is only political rationale for that ruling. >> host: the patriot backed? >> guest: it needs to clearly be circumscribed at this point. should be reduced but not in the current form. the patriot act allows significant latitude or has
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been taken that way with the executive branch but it has to be monitored and curtailed even people that voted said we did think they would have done this banal the you know, quillback to write again what the federal government what they should be to monitor communications because i promise you they do not need my information to find terrorists. his newest book is called they know everything about you. use said i agree. >> we have come full circle there is a point the right meets the left because the case that he made some privacy for the federal government they are starting to take them more seriously with the war on terror before the president declared an end to lead george w. bush administration decided we would take an enormous
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amount of data and to catch terrorists that was growing and growing under bush at the time we said we will trust you and it turns out the matter how much you think they ought to be trusted it never ends well. just think the government is rarely a good proposition that is why you need significant limitations on what exactly it can and cannot do. >> "the people vs. barack obama" any updates with the paper book? >> i don't think so. it is cheaper. [laughter] >> host: who are the police? >> guest: the people on the left say anybody who disagree with them is bad debt is the entire it tactic. the media uses said the president uses said that if you disagree on policy because you are a bad human being. with marco rubio we saw in
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last week. hillary clinton a week and a half into her campaign is she has been asked zero substantive questions because she runs away from that carries ben marco rubio was asked everything from substance to nonsense. would you attend a gauge wedding? that is the koch a question there is only two answers he says jesse is said hypocrite if he says snowden he is mean and nasty. that is the way the left likes to play that is where you hear about the war on women. because if we disagree on policy then i must be a bad human being that is a bully tactics and it is nasty we are seeing a plant in the governmental sphere so therefore now i can bring the government done into the equation. arlene has a flower shop and
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gay couple, she serves them 10 years they said they want to buy flowers for though wedding sold would to provide bellflowers? she says i cannot do that here is a list who will provide flowers instead of saying okay week -- respect your opinion really go across the street it turns out some floors are gay. instead they sell her the business was shut down she had to pay a fine and this is what it has come to then indiana passes have freedom restoration act to protect rights to act in accordance with other religious beliefs is to go so far to compare to jim crow which is nonsensical. jim crow was a set of laws to force businesses not to associate of black people now for them and to associate with whomever they
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want is nonsensical but because they are mean and nasty and cruel the government can do whatever they want and she has it coming. that tyranny coming from those on the other side is necessarily by virtue of the belief system. but the people themselves are evil and horrible therefore they can be victimized by the government. and to force them to do what it is. >> host: so how did mike handled that? >> very poor. awful. a very simple answer about what is fascinating is republicans and conservative strap themselves because the truth is and rand paul came close to save this then backed off but you should have the right to refuse service to anybody that you want and if you do the tissue or a nasty bad person because they are black then
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you well as money the business will go out of business that is why they had jim-crow to force them not to do business the only color they have is green it is a religious it is idiotic i religious but if i were in radius it should be my responsibility it is not my job to serve a circumcision ceremony if i am anti-circumcision is edberg retreat -- bigotry? no. by an anti-circumcision. so that freedom to review a consensual engaged rand is now considered an act of tyranny was really it is the government to force me to have involuntary servitude. pends did not say that he wasn't willing to go basic so instead he was in an awkward situation to explain
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the difference which is true to not serving the same-sex weddings and a gay person. there is a difference. but they are not equivalent in any way. i cancer of gay people all day long or jews all day long but the serving is not the same thing but to suggest that with the simple principle it used to be a good plus on your business no shirt no shirt on gas snowshoes' those service now i have a religious belief and i don't wear shoes? i could go there i am looking forward to a dead day to do it demanded a kosher burger and they are bigots if they do not serve made. >> host: ben shapiro is our guest will begin with never calls. twin falls idaho. >> caller: your views echo
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mind precisely down to the last one. regarding israelis would she think that vote will be with the obama of boycott of neck tian yu -- netanyahu? >> guest: as a said earlier that the vast majority don't care about judy is a more israel which is unfortunate you did see as a drop from the upper levels of support 70% down and 65% and you will see that hillary clinton is the nominee to separate offer mama's policy will see a continued drop. they will never vote in majority for republican most have nothing to do with studious them. those who believe will vote because they care about
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israel. they vote republican otherwise they vote democrat. >> caller: you describe hillary clinton as a robot and president obama as a perpetrator of involuntary manslaughter. then a you repeat the last for personal attacks. knu slowdown and start thinking about your actually saying without talking so fast with the fallacies of what you are doing. if i say you are a narcissistic adolescent that is my political opinion than that is the ben shapiro techniques ally wish you luck with your mind as you grow up. >> guest: it is good to hear from my professor from harvard law school again.
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thank you florida complement's the fact that the left disagrees is a badge of honor. i am not sure what i can joke about if i can joke about her be robotic. leighton up a little bit. >> host: why did you compare that caller to a professor's? >> i got along with most of my professors a couple who are known for not being tolerant of other political viewpoints one is from the senator from massachusetts but there was a lot of harvard law professor i got along well with one who had clinton had to pull her nomination because she was a radical but they are supposed to have an open mind about what i object is when elizabeth warren i all
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they dealt with her a a little bit we met at the top of the hotel because she was recording before harvard law school at the time in our initial conversation she read my profile she suggested there is knoll sought less side on college campus is easily discounted by anything ever done then she started to rush into -- representative rush limbaugh i asked if she had never listen to them that was an interesting. i am always willing to have conversations that is how i get through my day. if people call and disagree. >> host: never been told that you talk fast? >> all the time. i cannot stop. it is unfortunate i have been working on a for a long time but i will fall into the jewish stereotypes they talk fast and my parents
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taught extremely quickly so we sit around a table and it sounds like everybody is on fast for all the time. then we hit chipmunks be then we go silent and then one time we ended up back in 1955 i had to make sure that my parents mentioned that i was born. [laughter] >> host: st. augustine florida. >> caller: i have read several of your works but at any rate i am a republican and i am so fed up with the party and the politics are we still able to grab defeats at of the jaws of victory? and we do need to recommend freed it -- friedman's book
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about freedom to choose and also want to mention talking about civil rights that barry goldwater refuse to sign the civil rights legislation because he felt it deprived people of their freedom to associate with those with whom they wanted which reflects back on the gay marriage thing. >> host: before we get an answer, did you say you are afraid the republicans are going to screw it up again? can you give ben example? >> unfortunately as a former republic -- republican i broke my back for john mccain going door-to-door in florida and mitt romney they were such lovely gentlemen but they ran campaigns that they could not communicate with the american people on the level that they needed private trade this will happen again because of the people
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running on the ticket. we can not be as sharp as the democrats and i am not sure why. what is the solution? >> guest: getting down to actual basic moral arguments for i talk about the left is a bully because deep down they believe they are morally superior i think that is unfounded and unearned. but the truth is any political perspective you will feel the you have a certain level of moral superiority. conservatism is superior if people on the right cannot articulate bin that will be a serious problem for them. are they going to do any damage? the fact that the senate has been less than useful but what they adjusted to pass a bill that allows president
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obama to let sanctions -- lift sanctions basically that allows the president, as presidents can come up with votes to stop him that will be the uphill battle but there are some who have started to learn about speaking of moral language very basic in meaningful terms that people resonate to. unless they can do that on a routine basis that is what mitt romney tried to do to talk about the tax rate i know my tax rate because i just had to send a big check to the irs that most people don't that is the pitch for the president of united states but he said the highest tax bracket you will triple the economy i'm sorry that is not much of a pitch for the united states. >> host: your next book?
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>> i am working on a novel right now that should be fun for i am changing it up. as most conservatives are a close to the apocalyptic american novel. with as he by the canned food item writing something along those lines in there is some thinking of some different topics that would be interesting to write about. one is a creeping tyranny of the american mind as it i disagree so i can use the government to do whatever i want to do. that is truly frightening as there are plenty of things i disagree with as you can tell their distasteful and problematic things every day there grows and terrible that does not give me the ability to use the government to cram them to do what i want. americans return to that vision is only there to prevent externalities' of interpersonal action there
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to protect third parties to get ourselves into a lot of trouble for i know it from libertarian perspective but we are becoming such a country of / styles it will be difficult for us to remain one country in the long run allow us to come to an agreement that government will stay out of it and we have to deal with each other on interpersonal level it is nobody else's business what type of community you lived in if it is eight years toward gay or christian you should be allowed to be left alone. we are allowed to choose where religion and the lifestyle and the fact we have decided on a national level that the federal government you can use of power nobody can wield that power properly. this is why it is a fascinating with same-sex marriage the white house acknowledged they try to form a traditional marriage and failed that is my fears
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have been advocating that government should stay out of that business because it is a like they did good for traditional marriage in the first place. get them out with interpersonal relationships that is what i have with my wife. we have a jewish marital document the we also have our state i don't care about the state makes no difference to me and it is registered with the government. it is the way that jews registered marriage 3,000 years ago there is nothing wrong with it today i can make an agreement with this one person how we will liberalize the is a better system than the government to decide what is the appropriate relationship in a consensual situation. >> host: california. go-ahead. >> caller:.
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>> host: are you with us? so let's move on he is gone. delaware. please go ahead. >> caller: i have a couple of questions. on a personal level i just wanted to know if he has ever been in the of military or if family members have served and also if he is so hellbent to destroy the federal government then what government would we need to have to be the united states of america? and the other question is said understand the republican party right now because the policies are coming coming from the nine rand institute which is based on the most non
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religious she was an atheist to begin with and the republican party were ships are especially paul rice and. >> host: we get it. why did you ask the first question about the military? >> guest: i get sick and tired of the people that our pro-military. my dad was survived two plane crashes in world war ii. my husband was in vietnam and he died premature because said agent orange and i worked with united states government 30 years. and all these people that have never served their government or military day it is like they have never
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served. >> host: we got the point. i appreciate that. we will add that to a the lists to. >> first of all, your rendition of shaken off. with your questions about military service thank you for your family and your husband's military service u.s. i wanted to destroy a the federal government and build up the military's obviously i don't i want to restrict them to be cast the way it was originally designed including national security and military defense than a chicken hawk argument i did not serve i cannot be a hawk i am not a member of a police force but like a still photo police politics but it when it comes to defines military policy i will make a deal i will never speak again about military policy if we agree members of the military get to vote on military policy i
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think that will go partly because it turns out day though disproportionately republican on national defense and as far as of nine rand what republicans like about objectivism it points out that evils of collectivism as far as their personal philosophy the notion that selfishness is the ultimate value most don't agree with that. the aicher description of capitalism and collectivism but it is absolutely not the means of majority republicans do not believe in that that is why they are religious. >> guest: jocelyn in los angeles. please go ahead. >> caller: i would like to ask ben shapiro why is he so focused on the obama administration with privacy or lack there of when this issue was accelerated with bush and cheney and now that
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obama is in office it is a big deal. should maybe we the people vs. bush and cheney? i actually called for prosecution in the book those involved under the surveillance programs a you make my case. i do not restricted to barack obama but the fact is they did dramatically upscale the amount which is fascinating in light they declare the up more on terror is supposed to be ending a set of ratcheting up the information. it is contradictory. bush and cheney ellis' try to give us an excuse to get those that were dangerous but the obama administration refuses to read knowledge people are dangerous we will sign the nuclear deal with iran even though the revolutionary guards said they will not allow concessions selfie says no
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threat and it doesn't exist but yet they have to check emails i start to get suspicious. >> host: editor-at-large for bright burt and co-host in the los angeles morning cancer best selling author of several books including his most recent police and "the people vs. barack obama" we have about 58 minutes left with our guest and washington and. good afternoon. >> caller: i want to talk to mr. shapiro about the drought in california. i want to give him my suggestion is that we in washington state i transferred appear after graduated from college in california i fell in love with snow skiing they have lots of water appear -- up
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here. i am also the child of the army corps of engineer i grew up in australia and all over the world with the army corps of engineers to help people bin to to get there country's going. so i know how construction works and i was born my dad is one of the supers on the belts. >> host: where are you going with this? >> guest: why are we not doing something with regards to which scena diems and reservoirs' coming all the way down. >> host: i apologize i will stop you there. talk about the politics of
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water to one that is interesting because when it comes to the drought the environmentalism of california has tripled any efforts to build new diems our reservoirs we have a giant body of water it is just full of salt. israel figure out how to make desalination plants are expensive but we're spending money on a juju trained it does not exist we with the creek is spend money on how to get water to people to bring those aqueducts of course, we should. jerry brown's father actually did a lot but he reversed a lot of that now all of a sudden he decides yes to restrict everybody shower but it turns out 80 percent of all water used goes to agriculture and for all the talk how we create all the fruits and nuts in the united states in terms of actual fruits and nuts the fact is that accounts for 2% a gdp of the state of
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california so that makes up 80 percent of the of water. . . achieve 600 700 gallons every year. we made 11 to fill up only loss. here's the reality. 150 gallons of fresh water pumped in every year. another 250 are pumped out of there to help the salmon swim to their spawning places. we have to make sure they ha usable water in san francisco bay. this is not exactly the best use of water. we are going to have to get over the old subsidies to industry as we like. i like farmers in central valley. beatty something incredibly worthwhile. the fact is if you are one segment of the population that represents 2% of gdp i may
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think almonds are more valuable. i may think that is more of a value to the united states. guess what, free country. i should go to pay for the water. the reason it's happening is the state of california. people in urban and agricultural areas. you would've thought competition for the water and water usage would have gone down. you go to the store. has anyone ever run out of bottled water? no. nobody ever wants out of coke. they produce more and it comes in the next ship them. when it comes to water because it's artificially deflated, and by the states and local government, that means the water has been running for a long time because how we decided to give you that. >> host: what is the argument against desalinization? >> guest: you have to use particular enzymes. this chemical is used in order to make sure that happened in a
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lot of the chemicals are supposedly dangerous although israel never had a problem and it is very expensive. it is extraordinarily expensive. they should certainly be pursuing it now. >> host: there's a new plant opening. >> guest: they need to really ratchet up the water production. >> host: charleston to west virginia. this is booktv on c-span2. >> caller: hello, great to talk to you. the question i have is that possible for states attorneys general to possibly bring prosecution charges against the obama administration, and the members of congress who thumb their nose that citizens of the constitution by sitting back and turning heads away while we are flooded by illegal aliens. i'm not afraid to use the term. that's what it is. i am scared because what i see
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happening is with giving the back taxes for the past three years for these people, the free college educations, the housing and everything, to me that is buying votes for the next election. what is it going to take to finally have others in congress besides ted cruz and michael lee, the great pastries they are, what will it take to get these people to stand up to the administration and tell them to pretty much are thumbing their finger at the american people. >> guest: as far as my own stamps, there is no welfare state. and totally open if there's no welfare state. come in coming to work. in fact if you want to work i will trade you. if i working which i am fundamentally opposed.
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i would trade the illegal immigrant who wants to work and the guys have been on welfare. it's not your place of origin. the problem is we have the entire system of benefits we are giving out to people and that draws people here. everybody inherently have selfishness. we are all taking benefits from the federal government. everybody take something from the federal government. until we stop offering these things in the first place the answer is to watch it happen right now over president obama in the amnesty program temporarily put on hold. we'll see if it goes to the supreme court or not. as long as it is more palatable to the hispanic vote and the media by pretending you have a plan that doesn't end with closing the border and at least doing something about the folks who are here illegally, you don't have a solution.
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both right and left it is cynical. they want cheap workers for the corporation. no one is in favor for the individual. everyone in the country illegally will not say everybody ought to be deported. everybody ought to be assessed and we had to determine whether they are in a state for -- went to the united states and on an individual level whether they get to stay or go. it is bewildering how the irs goes to 100 million tax cuts down to what i ate for lunch six months ago at a kosher restaurant and whether his business lunch or not but they can't track down 14 million people and decide whether it be good for them to be in the country or not. >> host: ben shapiro from charleston, west virginia. seems like a fan of yours. if she wants to listen to you read you what is the best source? >> guest: truth is one of my websites. you can check there to pray partners. if you want to listen kr l.a.
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every morning, 19 and on the east coast. afternoon i do a second radio show. my second radio shows 3:00 to 6:00 in seattle. you can google in bothell. >> host: you also tweaked. >> guest: as you know i'm rather volatile on twitter. it is@ben shapiro. political debates extraordinaire as well as bill clinton's 1970s kinship. if you've ever seen what bill clinton looked like in the 1970s, there is a picture hillary clinton and bill clinton next to one another. i sent that out with we are home. >> host: eli will attend california. >> caller: eli actually
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different gender. >> host: i apologize. angered enough an ipaq. >> caller: no problem. i don't want to spend my time correcting that. obviously gentlemen i want to print out his name. it is quite intelligent. it is unfortunate enough. i am jewish and i have to so strongly object to is trying to portray his own misguided attempts at politics and talking fast. not all jews talk fast and promote stereotypes. he does a great disservice to jewish people all over the world. and he is laughing matter, which i find -- i hope what he's
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doing. i just came from a wonderful jewish film festival and saw the film the jewish card all. this man and a catholic polish clerics did far more when they smartened up and had a little more compassion for people than this guy has. as far as -- >> host: politically do you disagree with ben shapiro when it comes to his politics as well? >> caller: i'm sorry. >> host: do you disagree with ben shapiro when it comes to his politics as well as some of the things you've mentioned? >> guest: i do disagree with his politics quite a lot. but it is a separate issue to promote stereotypes against


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