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tv   Book Discussion on Blind Conceit  CSPAN  September 27, 2015 3:30pm-3:46pm EDT

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isoleading to economic depression, he alongs at the joologyal problems associate it with global warming and the american revolution of 1800, recount of thomas jefferson's election as president. mr. hartman's books include argue. s against corporate personhoods and the collection of essay's topics such as psychology, spirituality and environmentallity. tom hartman. you can take part by send are you questions on comments to, on twitter or call in. >> a suggest feature of booktv is our all-day coverage of book fairs and festivals from across the country with top nonfiction authors. hoarse our schedule:
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you're watching booktv on c-span2. we're location in las vegas for the annual freedomfest conference. we're interviewing authors. joining us now, author and activist, star parker. where did the name from this come from. >> guest: came out of a som. psalm 36. i was compiling columns i had written that talk about politics
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and policies and i was read a psalm, 36, that whispers in the the ear the wicked and they have no relationship to god so they heave no fear of home and can't see owie veil they are. they are evil when you think of the policies coming forward to heal critical problems him that backfield on the country and the world and backfire on the very people that we were trying to help. >> host: who are they? >> guest: they have backfire on or the they who developed the ideas. >> host: developed. >> guest: the progressives developed out ideas. i talk about in this in any book. in the '60s we saw three wars against the common culture as americans. we saw war on religion, where we scrubbed our schools from any reference go cawed, and a war on major where we told fem mists you can legal a household, and we saw war and poverty that began to pay those already in straits when it came to
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developing our relationship with major and told them they didn't have to marry or work nor did they have to save any money, and the government would take care or them. that an idea progressivism and now it's hurting us as nation it's hurting individuals. >> star parker when dead you develop your political philosophy? cincinnati was a transition. i actually bought owl the ideas of the left. believed what we hear today, that the -- because of welfare wealthy, believe my problems are somebody else residents fault. i believed that america would so racist i didn't need to mainstream, over and over again, miss world view and festival i was distracted, criminal activity, drug activity, sexual activity in and out of the welfare state, three and a half years consistently and one until i conversioned -- i bought into the idea of a biblical world
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view i should be responsible with the choices issue should mainstream my life, i should be self-sufficient, sets what happen i began to develop what about call politically conservative philosophy but when i got into business i became more libber tearan when i indicate to the role of money and i wanted to removal governmental barriers of my own life and so that capitalism would flourish and those that their weakest link amongst us i tried to focus more on impoverished situations and we have socialism for them and in a capitalist society it didn't work. >> host: clinton version, did you write about that? sunny wrote about it in in the new book because my last back, "uncle sam's plantation" i went through. i have to tell my own story. when i talk about politics, poffles and racial polarization, how to move forward. we have had ferguson and baltimore and charleston.
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all of this racial tension and yet it doesn't seem like after $22 trillion in a war on poverty that we're moving forward. so i wanted to talk about this in blind conceit. so i tell my own personal story. how i got in and how i got out. >> host: how did you get out? what exactly happened that day? >> guest: the first thing that happened was i was looking to subsidize my welfare check. uncle sam is cruel to the poor. trying to live all the government was not easy. so i was looking to get some under the table income, and i walked into a business in central central l.a. that said they were legitimate businessmen, and i confronted them because i didn't think anyone should main stream but they confronted me back and introduce met to their churchs' said my lifestyle was unacceptable to god, it was very new information. i decide not grow up in a christian household. i it was life changing and not immediately but over time, and then i went back to school, i go at degree in business and marketing, and then i started a business. and my transition into public
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life was because after the '92 los angeles riot keys stride my business i knew many things hat gone wrong but what we were hearing from the black left is not one of them, not because of institutional racism, not because of somebody else holding people down. it was because marriage had collapsed in the black community to the degree that 72% of black babies are born outside of marriage. that young boys were getting lost in this reality and reeking havoc over the communities, both criminal activities and sexual activity. so i wanted to do something about it. i began the journey into public policy and i run a think tank in washington. >> host: you talk about the so-called -- what you call the war on the family. what are some of the policies that progressives have developed that have purse hurt the family. >> guest: well in housing policy, out of hud, we hear a lot of that discussion today and i address until my book. we have concentrated poverty and
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we have paid single moms to just stay in section 8 and/or hud housing. that if they marry the person that produced the children they're no longer eligible. so this increases the potential they're not going to mary that man that they have had children with three i'ms. so we know that do something about public policy and housing and that the direction we're seeing today. out to decrease the government reside role by getting vouchers and let people live where they want to. another is in education. we have allowed unions to control the education within our hardest hit communities and trap kids in failing schools. they need vouchers. they need out. these oar policies ideas we should consider because one of the challenges with this one size fits all government, education program, is morelltiveism. so you have a moral background in somebody and yet that person now is expected to produce. they're from a broken home, from one social scientist called the tragedy of the common, no one earns so it no one attacked care
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of it. then send them to cool to learn morelltiveism. how are they going to be successful? keep in mind, michael brown -- we heard his name because he returned up on a police officer and it cost him his life. i say he committed suicide because everybody knows not to rush up on a police officer. but look at his life. born in chaos, in and then went to a government school controlled by a union that lost it accreditation. that high school diploma that michael brown received two weeks before his death was worthless. this is what society is doing to people that we trapped the these poor communities and we need to stop it. reveres these trends of welfare poll soyuz that people can live free. >> host: where did you grow up. >> guest: i didn't grow up because my dad was military, air force. i'm an air force brat, and during the time of vietnam he was of course an absent parent, but we were moving everywhere. so i settled in california after my aggressive life hair to run
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away from home. i was in high school in new jersey and then went to california and endangered myself and then had a clinton version and was able to -- a clinton version. >> host: you had a military father, mother at home. what was happening to you? something like the family unit. >> guest: we had a family unit intact. this is what is fascinating on the war on religion and he war on poverty and my parents group the jim crow south. so it's a two-parent household where neither one of them were there but bringing their five children up in a world of humanism and relativively cycle got very lost. i was a middle child, between a brother and sister older and a brother and stir younger and it was fascinating coming back to this country in the late '60s to see every city on fire. i wanted to be part of the militant black lives because i had adopted this philosophy that
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whites were my problem, and so i just got very lost. >> host: what's your life like as a black conservative? >> guest: very alone. there aren't many of us that are very vocal. what i find even as a black consecutive is looking at data, we know a third of black people are conservative. they keep telling pollsters they're evangelical and conservative. they just have no voice. to becoming their voice i fine very quietly they'll sea to me urning agree 100% but don't tell anyone i said that. i address that in blind conceit as well. i talk quite a bit about the
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society and then build them out as racial questiones. it woulds get afraid and we shut down dialogue and it continues the patterns we have been on for 50 years now. destructive public policies. >> host: we're taping this
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interview the same week that the south carolina confederate flag is coming off the state capital. >> guest: yeah. a long journey for them. you think about the state of south carolina -- i don't like the federal hands or others from outside reaching into a state and tell the people of the state what to do but the south carolinians are making a big step doing this. when you think about charleston, where the civil war started. i'm thinking this is historic, that where the civil war is going end. i think this is a closed chapter now for the black political left to continue too fuel the fires of racial polar a'size and get throw real questions of what has broken down in the communes and our education, broken down economically that we're not seeing that strength come up from the bottom to the top. i'm looking forward to a brand new day because of the courage of south carolinians. >> host: i'm going to call you joust at bit. right before the interview you've said now i can go to my family reunion in south
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carolina. what did you mean by that? >> guest: the reunion moves around but i have 90% of my family is in south carolina. people don't know i'm from there they say i think you live in california, washington, dc, and that's true. i'm bicoastal but i'll die in south carolina. i will retry because that's home for us. and it's very meaningful and south carolina is always proud people. so i can go home now because i have been the outlier simply because the racial dynamics are really intense in that state. i think that moving the flag is going to help people heal and i'll be able to go home and talk to my family as a member as opposed to the person that sold out. >> host: in "blind conceit" you talk about the president. has the president done anything you agree with? >> guest: i think the president has made a major contribution to our state of affairs in america because he is polarized us so much. been so aggressive in promoting progressivism that people are
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starting to look at what has happened in our corporate lives of the last 50 years and waking up to new realities that say way can't go on like this. i talk about this crossroadsesomely to 1850s when abraham lincoln said we can't do this anymore. can't be half free and half slave. when you think where we are today as a country, we're half and half. half make, halve take, half contribute, halve say so what. the president has encouraged all americans to choose to say which side or you on, biblical and free or secular and states. there are a few things i agree with him on but i do agree we are going to have to decide which america we want to be. >> host: have you thought about running for office? sunny i tried that once when the tea party was sweeping the country and i was recruited by the republican party but i ran a policy institute in washington, and i --
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>> host: here. >> guest: i didn't care about inside or out but i think we're still effective on the out we're going to stay here and make my contributions through three prongs with work on policy, media and build a center where we're reaching those minorities. hard hit in communities and helping them understand not just what has broken done and the damage hoff the welfare state but looking at new ideas how to fix these problems and reverse the trend. >> host: from "blind conceit" the congressional black caucus isn't about ideas or solving problems. >> guest: we have seen in new idead from the caucus in the last 50 years. not one new idea there are 42 members and they're communities have not just stayed stagnant. they've fallen apart. every time we get a camera to show what is happening in hard-hit baltimore, or hard-fit ferguson, or hard-hit anywhere in the country we hear the same ans out of the black caucus. we're in the 21st century. sure


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