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c-span: courage to do more tests? >>guest: we could golan iran dawn broke -- john a. and on. fast and loose is good for politics if you are misreading the bell lot but if you want to make a case to take any action that is the uncomfortable or to make of virtue of necessity a candy lot of the tight corner. >> how much of the of language of shakespeare from the 1500's? >> in england and britain when shakespeare was around. with different dialects the north does not sound like the south the west does not sound like these. and then to become the dominant media form is to
stabilizer och -- stabilize from london. said the end of the 16th century that is interesting because that is the english that becomes the official dialect. c-span: the folger shakespeare library is available to the average person? >>guest: we are open and we are free to the public. we have an exhibition and hall where you can see great exhibitions. right now the history of longitude we do three shakespeare plays per year and here is one that people don't expect thousands of schoolchildren perform on our stage as part of the teaching shakespeare
festival is a. for the high-school student to perform on that stage it is something they will remember all their lives were america's home for shakespeare was free and open to the public into blocks east of the u.s. capitol. >> we do have an endowment that covers the court costs to cover the of materials it is worth over $300 million. with that money came from mr. folger to when he died he created the trust in the care of them first caller urged and they manage the endowment so we're fortunate to have growth over those years so to take care of
some of the most important documents in the world but more importantly so into fund-raising for my job and ask for support for folger i can say to the donors or people who are excited we will always be here. we have that ability to stay the course is thing we have been around its belong time pointing at as a hugely important body of work and ideals for this country and all students in america. >> a long way from washing -- washington. >> when mr. folger died there was the story they learn the greatest collection in the world was left to the trustees.
it was written in such a way that they refuse to take the collection it would go to another university phage chose not to ago to another. so mr. folger was the elmhurst to one so they took it over. c-span: back to politics here is senator ted kennedy and senator simpson. >> eventually under the senate rules will have an opportunity to have these offerings and amendments on the minimum-wage. >> mr. president i take we could go on and we made that as we get back to the substance of minimum-wage as
the senator does that and i misspoke earlier that senator kennedy as "king lear." [laughter] because certainly he launched and here i am. >> i am not sure what that means that when senator simpson he was "the reader" at the folger and i was told he spent time in the library said he is a huge fan and he read aloud he was in the library. c-span: is a make any sense you call him king leer? >> i need to know more about the context but i think he said plunging into the tempest in a gentle think he is quoting the tempest that talking about suffering the
breakdown at the hands of the elements and hurling the insults to the gods and senator simpson calls itself the playful spirit spirit, midsummer's night as a dream it is always better to be puck instead of "king lear". c-span: here is another one. >> in this moment in history america may get a second chance that we may not get it again but not long ago he wrote this quotation that applies to us today there is a tide that taken on the flood leads to fortune that all of the wage of their
lives upon such a full seen to take the current with its service or lose the venture in this time of crisis we're also standing in a place where the tide is high and the opportunity is real. c-span: there is no teleprompter as odyssey that is from memory. >>guest: it is talking about taking the opportunity to love what he did it is an old track am not about to do this but one way to get into shakespeare i don't usually '' shakespeare but we heard sarah palin do the same thing. c-span: if you are watching us what is your
recommendation? huckabee research where language like this comes from. >>guest: research the plays we had the opportunity to greet the best shakespeare edition every but that tax online for free at folger digital text.org. you can search it all. you can cut and paste. c-span: people about what just can't get on line to watch the closed-captioned transcribes if they miss what they say they can connect at. but you start telling whole business? >> i was trying the traditional scholar i wrote a book and try to do it as
much occasion but because in now have fully searchable versions of the 60,000 of the books we have an unprecedented opportunity to have a full view of all the words that represent the very important period in print with shakespeare and public theater in politics and a civil war in england and realize you could use some techniques to look for the sequences of the words than asking yourself is there some kind of text or more of this happens? it turns out you can create a profile almost with your eyes shut because there are certain things he has to do that he never does so we
believe shakespeare wrote 38 plays that this is a professional theater and playwrights collaboration so up to 30% include the works of other people and in fact, it is hard to identify which were created by other writers. >> which is the most quoted? >>guest: that is a great question. i was either julius caesar or hamlet. c-span: why? >>guest: julius caesar is about beautiful pieces and set pieces that politicians use and they tend to be very popular and americans use them. i think camlet is the play that just took off in the 18th century with a hero
who was to avenge his father but is reluctant of a fully formed a person. c-span: in 2011 here is president obama. >> to her majesty the queen queen, the vitality of the special relationship between our people in the words of shakespeare of the surf and this realm. ♪ >>guest: that has to be a high-pressure moment as the president leads the monarch talking about her country with those quotations a marvelous long speech that
is a tribute so i think he chose wisely. c-span: how did shakespeare name his plays? >>guest: that is a great question. the names of the plays differ depending on what published edition that you look at but the paperback edition is the history of "king lear" though larger portfolio is the tragedy they are long titles they say it is about "king lear" also it is also about who had to become a man on the run. site of a little curious how their name to the one thought that i have is ever named with proverbs all's well that ends well, in some research that i have been
doing for metalwork is to understand why they chose the proverbs city county times said you read those plays? >> the whole cycle for zero or five times i tend to read them in the order we think that they were written because i tried to piece together the career of this person whenever is teaching large lecture class's hamlet in "king lear" i read those probably 20 times. c-span: was the first and last. >>guest: there is a debate it could have been henry six maybe a comedy of errors that is a farce of it and the twins at the end of his career were collaborative it was not the tempest he wrote
with other writers. c-span: which would he have read in the 1300's that would have predicted today? adapter 9/11 from george to be bush with the transformation of the leader to be less serious after this huge national tragedy there was a change in how he saw his role that comes back to king henry the fourth as he spent time with his best friend and the changes decided to reform himself
with his drinking buddy fall as my prayers old man which is a complete repudiation and to guess what was going through his mind after 9/11 but to understood there was of similar story in shakespeare stories are good because they are dramatic to build character and they are available for us to put politicians into that is why simpson to say i see mine in washington the shorthand way to figure out what would happen next. c-span: the congressman from california from the florida house.
>> double-a-2 quote shakespeare who said in such business action is eloquence mr. speaker we have before us a measure to be designed to focus in our economic going. >> it is pitiful how such a beautiful quotation has action and eloquence and is also running about that legislation it is the beautiful phrase i cannot remember which and play it comes from but it is the impression not to talk a lot but to take action. c-span: folger shakespeare library contains what. >>guest: is the greatest collection of original
material collected shakespeare in this world that means we cover beverly shakespeare play write poetry and the collection that represents the entire european renaissance and the particular focus is on the war of london that is the world when we get science with francis bacon or theology or theater from shakespeare is such a lie if moment the city is undergoing so many changes people go all of the country because trade is a lie if the entire atlantic is explored. and those under happening politically in the beginning of colonization of what
troubles us. it is an amazing period history in that period that is represented by our collection is a world that could not recognize where we could look at that to say that is our world. >> so those millions of books almost 300,000 books and 130,000 pages better over 400 years old it and all the collections so that people can understand to have that secondary collection.
>> what is the first folio? >>guest: the book printed the first collection of shakespeare's works all 38 there are no sonnets a couple of things that our important is the first is without that book we would not have had any in shakespeare's plays so it is the only record we have of the most famous play. second it is a large book and large format books were for theology and philosophy and history and to state plays only was a very important statement the first folio is the first book in that format. c-span: how many of those
you have? >>guest: 82 copies there to reduce 17 known copies. c-span: if you sold one of those what would be worth. >>guest: we would never sell it they do have research value i believe the last auction sale was over $6 million. c-span: robert kennedy in 1964 that the democratic national convention with his brother jack. >>
♪ that is a very powerful message. c-span: assembly in politics to get calls like that? >>guest: all-time hit says a lot about shakespeare at election time we get requests for things like the quote like some who are born great some have achieved greatness in some of that thrust upon them we get interested in that no lot. c-span: in 2004 there is a
book written about mr. shakespeare and we have a composite of those writers >> what i try to do is let "the reader" sees politics. >> what better way than to read shakespeare? >> but these individuals are said to have bid -- dash capability. rather than having a strong personality up credible ability to pick up the personalities. >> these children have to learn english.
>> i can't recite to over 45 wines from richard the third that i am a new world african. edits the language a little more figures have had written more things about them other than napoleon. with the series of quotations to talk about his position as an african-american that when he dreams he dreams of the language of shakespeare. it is amazing. he captures that cents we may not quote them day or night but the way they he wrote was so powerful that
it is more like he lives and our dreams when you shut your eyes and brain tries to figure out what the world is to put people into the right stories the words that tell those were put there by great writers. c-span: to have a family? >>guest: i have a 11 year-old son. my son cannot'' all beginning wines from richer the third but the first four. c-span: is a hard to get kids interested? >> it is not. because he wrote in the form that is the most natural for kids to take up their theatrical and wants to move around to in non dash subconscious as adults sillery ec shakespeare at
the folger me say you're not understand all these words but the situation will speak for itself start speaking end you will begin to find your way. we found if you have a positive experience reading shakespeare or performing it the odds of the remaining connected to this writer go way up. c-span: the back to the way we began with senator byrd from the floor of the senate >> speaking to proteus that to gentleman speaking of the
he doesn't just'' -- quote shakespeare but this is a puffball of our they play to say i don't want to talk about the situation i want to talk about a great education. >> how many people worked at the folger library? >>guest: 100 full-time staff and 40 or 50 dead actors or directors on contracts. c-span: you have two buildings? >>guest: facilities on both sides of state street but the main facility is a full city block in mind if it takes the path of. c-span: we can go back to show the pictures to see how
close it is that the senators and congressmen often walk over to the library to use the reading room? >>guest: senator simpson is a great example we have members of congress to celebrate shakespeare's birthday. >> i am told the justices were debating among themselves and they called to say can recede as a bible you want to debate that then within 10 minutes they would walk across the street. >> how does that cost? >> i do not know the answer to that question is interesting in the middle of the depression the most luxurious building to reopener washington in a
decade it. c-span: can an average citizen along? >> absolutely it is there for entire country can become a member and receive our magazine for the we have performed shakespeare's plays you can hear our additions as you drive around. >> t is the are rare materials we ask that you have letters of reference to say you have reason if you do have one we want you to. it is not everybody in the whole world the reading rooms are filled with people better very famous professors or editors are those that at the folger to do workshops.
c-span: we're out of time. director of the folger shakespeare library thanks for joining us. and continuing this discussion. >>guest: thanks for having me. ♪ . . >> april 23rd the 4en in anniversary of william shakespeare's death and on that day the folger library in washington, dc, which has the largest collection of shakespeare documents and
memorabilia in the world, will be hosting an event commemorating his life and his impact on our literature, on language, our politics and our history. booktv will be covering the event live, and afterwards will have a live, nationwide callin with shakespeare scholars so you can union? the conversation. henry folger was the president have standard oil company and a shakespeare buff so he and his wife spent many years and many dollars collecting shakespeare artifacts, documents, memorabilia. it's the world's largest collection of shakespeare-related documents. so join us on saturday, april 23rd, we'll we live beginning at noon from the folger library for 400 years of shakespeare on booktv. >> a live look at pennsylvania
where hillary clinton is about to hold a campaign rally. this is just outside of scranton, which is where hillary clinton's father was born. scranton's mayor will be attending the recent along with pennsylvania senator bob casey and congressman matt cartright and it's possible they'll give e introductory remarks, again, this is live on c-span 2. ♪ ♪ [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome hillary for america
organizer alex nesbeth. >> how are you today? if you don't know me by now i am the local grassroots organizer for hillary hillary clinton's c. lackawanna county. it is so, so exciting at that time we get to welcome secretary hillary clinton here to town today. and i'm willing to bet that a lot of you have hear from me,
whether at president clinton event or on the phone, probably run you off the hook but i want to bend you're ear one last time because this election is way too important to fall silent. here's what is at stake. when i was in second grade i came down with my first about of pneumonia. my mom, who was the founder of a theater company, my dad owned a small residential design company. they couldn't afford insurance for me. and my dad's company -- he had health insurance, didn't cover me or my mom. and luckily for me, hillary clinton, a few year earlier, helped shepherd how to congress the state children's health insurance program. [cheering] >> yeah, yeah. and that got me covered when my parents couldn't. it covered enough for the medical fees. made sure the parents weren't
drowning in them when i had to have the x-rays can aberdeens, appointment d the antibiotics, and when it came roaring back three years later, that tricky pneumonia, the same program protected me again. now, republicans want to take that progress away. yes. there are a whole region of people and a lot of money lined up to make sure that she doesn't get the chance to keep fight for things that saved my parents from drown into poverty, and that's why this primary is important, because,'s a, we have a chance to wrap this thing up, to crack the glass ceiling right here on tuesday. but hillary can't do it alone. she needs your help. she needs your help. she needs your help and needs it more than ever. there are a couple of things you can do right now to help hillary
win and this is the last time i can ask. we have four days to put this thing across the finish line. first things first. on the way out, find somebody that looks kind of like me but holding a clipboard and sign up for a few times to go knock on doors in your neighborhood this weekend. it's fun and building community. the only way to organize the support we need to win. yeah! [cheering] >> and i would not ask if i didn't know that it's just too important to sit this one out. and i said it before but i'll keep saying it, if there's one thing that scares me most is waking up april 27th and knowing we could have done a little bit more. so, on that note there's one last thing that i'm going to ask you to do. i need you all to take out your phones and if you're on twitter, follow us@hilary in pa.
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the boston glop globe reported thad human being's vp short list is said to include a woman. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren is a possibility. "the boston globe" write citizen female pairing would double down on the historical nature of clinton's candidacy, and would provide a bridge to the support of bernie san terse. all this is speculation, and that's the case for republicans as well. more on that as we wait for this event to get started. >> the 25016 primaries and caucuses will not conclude for another eight weeks but already the republican candidates are looking for potential running mates. philip lucker -- rucker has been looking at this. the he is joining us on the phone from hollywood, florida, where the republican national committee concluded his spring meeting today.
thank you for being with us. >> hi, glad to be here. >> give us a sense of what team cruz, trump, and kashich are now doing. >> well, there's a vetting process underway, and it's unusual because typically this doesn't happen until there's a presidential nominee presumptive, but we're headed towards a possible open convention, which means the candidates need to get ready to cruz and kashich both have begun vetting vice presidential prospects. they have started to research their backgrounds and not yet reached the significant stage of the vetting process where they do interviews and deal with the vice-presidential candidates themselves but they're certainly preparing to announce a ticket as early as june, and if not wait until the convention in cleveland. >> certainly there are complex issues involved if you wait until the last minute. putting somebody on the ticket that could cause harm for the candidate. correct? >> that's right. we all remember 2008 and john
mccain did that sort of last minute hail mary in schrecking sarah palin, she unfortunately did not go through a long-term vetting process and the was some surprises there that ended up hurting the mccain campaign so i think both cruz and kashich are trying to avoid that circumstance, but there are new calculations this year. they don't know who the presidential nominee will be so there are also political calculations that have to be made heading into an open convention. try to cut a deal with somebody who can bring over a certain delegation of delegates or appeal to certain segments of the convention delegates in cleveland to try to get the whole ticket nominated. >> in reading your story today it appears as if senator cruz and maybe to lesser extent governor kashich are as full their ahead, at least publicly, that donald trump. is that a fair assessment? >> that's right. i interviewed trump about this
last week at his office and he said he is giving his running mate a lot of thought. thinking about some names in his head but that's where it ends. he has not a begun a formal vetting process, doesn't have a system in place at his campaign headquarters to handle these issues. he is focused on winning the nomination first and foremost. we sat down this week with paul manafort, the aide that has taken over the trump campaign and paul says we're focused on the contests coming up. re gallon to the vetting but we want to make sure mr. trump actually becomes the nominee. >> what names potentially are you hearing and any surprises in this ever-growing list? >> the names you hear are mostly speculative of course but it's our understanding that both rubio, marco rubio, the senator from florida, and wisconsin governor scott walker, are being look at by john kashich, and
certainly rubio would be an aa tracktive run -- attractive running mate for any of the candidatessers cruz and trump included. i don't know where trump's going to go necessarily. a lot depends on whether he can wrap up the nomination in june himself goes to an open convention he may have to use the vice presidential slot as a means of sort of bringing the party together and winning more delegates for him. if that's the case you can look for him to go for someone like rubio or even convince john kashich to by his running mate. kashich has said he has zero interest in being a number two on anybody's ticket. but of course people change their minds. >> you have been on the ground in holy, florida, for this two-day spring meeting of the republican national committee and a lot of the campaigns have sent surrogates or the candidates themselves meeting with delegates and rnc officials. what was your takeaway? >> there's a lot of activity. the rnc is certainly preparing
for an open convention. the most interesting thing to me has been the trump charm offensive. he sent paul manafort and this other new aide, rick wiley, down and they spent a couple of days holding private meetings with rnc members and manafort told them, look, the hostility you hear from donald trump about the party leadership, about the rnc, about the rules process, that's all an act. that's sort of a role he is playing right now to gin up and motivate his supporters on the stump but he is going to start acting more presidential and involving involving the republican national committee as partners and trying to make them feel included in the trump process. trump very much wants to become the presumptive nominee of this party, and i think to do that he is going to need to apiece a lot -- appease a lot of the party leaders who openly hostile with him. >> we'll see that with donald trump on wednesday, he is in washington speaking to the
national press club, the first in a series of policy speeches, wednesday focusing on foreign policy. want to ask you got the story. the last time we had question mark at the convention is 1976, reagan selected his running mate before the convention, didn't work out to well for him. >> a bold move that reagan made coming into the convention help was competing against then incumbent president ford to get the republican nomination and he needed to win over a bunch of unbound delegates from the state of pennsylvania so he picked the moderate senator could thought that would dethe trick. the lost the name nation, and ford went on to represent the republican party in '76 and we remember ford lost the election, and jimmy carter became the president. >> a contested cleveland conclave could complicate the choices on republican running mates. the story by phil rucker,
available online at "washington post."com. phil rucker, thank you for your time. >> thanks. glad to be here. >> we are live here at dunmore high school in pennsylvania. these folk ares in a school gymnasium waiting for democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton to speak very shortly. while we wait for her we'll let you know about who is there today. scranton's mayor is taping this event. -- attending this event, and along with pennsylvania senator bob casey and congressman matt cartwright, and more road to the white house coverage is coming up this weekend. tomorrow, the republican presidential candidate ted cruz for a campaign event, live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span and later tomorrow we'll take you live to wilmington, delware, to democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders holds a rally and that is scheduled to begin at 4:00 p.m. eastern. right now we wait for hillary
>> we are waiting for hillary clinton to take the stage here at dunmore high school in pennsylvania, where she is holding a campaign rally. the state's primary is coming up this tuesday, one of five contests taking place that day. and while we wait for the candidate to take the stage, we'll be bringing you discussion now from "washington journal." >> now joining us is chris, chairman of fair vote.org. what is that? >> guest: it's an election reform group for over 25 years we have been advocating reforms like proportional representation, rank choice voting and reforming the electoral college. >> host: what is rank choice voting. >> guest: that's like a runoff election, like in local elections when you vote in a
primary, and then the top two voters advance to the general election,. >> louisiana does this. >> guest: las does that for federal and stays elections. you can do that. instead of having two elects you can have one election because you ask voters to give a second or third choice but there's no majority. and instead of asking voters to come back for a second round of elections, you take the ballot that voters ranked the first, second and third choice, and you count the second and third choices until somebody has a majority. also known as in-state runoff or instant runoff. like a local election. >> host: what's the point? why is that necessary? >> guest: it's necessary because it makes elections season shorter. you don't have to to have a primary in washington state we have primaries in august, california has a primary in june, oregon has primary in may. and that's one of the benefits. a shorter election season.
and you have more choices. and so you can he -- your first choice could be really how you really feel but your second cheese might bev more pragmatic choice. its fosters a civility in campaigns because the research -- they use a system in san francisco and minneapolis, portland, maine, and the study shows there's more civility in elections but a what candidates want to do, instead of tolerating their opponents, they want to appeal to more voters, so if i'm not your first choice, maybe i'll be your second choice so i'll be nice to you, my opponent, and your your voter so there's more civility in elections. >> host: is it do-able on national scale? >> guest: the only national election we have is for president, and what -- still don't -- right now as far as presidential elections go, we're promoting the national popular
vote plan, and so basically that's an interstate compact, and so, like, my state of washington is already legislature passed it, so has california. so has new jersey. and a few other states. so basically the idea with the national election is the state agrees for the interstate compact that whoever wins the national popular vote, that state will give their electors to whoever the winner of the national popular vote is. why? because right now we have situation where presidential elections in most states are uncompetitive. we have the swing states so candidates campaign in pennsylvania, they campaign in iowa, they campaign in florida, and a handful of other states. but like my state of washington, and california, texas, red states, those are called flyover states. the candidates don't campaign in those states, and so the national popular vote plan would
have a truly national election for president. >> host: we are talking about electoral reform, our guest is kristnovolselic. you can take part in our conversation. >> is fair vote a nonpartisan organization and what about your own politic? i'm glad you asked that. if i would call in, i would call in under all others because i'm independent. i'm a political independent. and fair vote we're a nonpartisan group. we have republicans and democrats, a libertarian and independents like myself on, i'm chair of the board. that's the key to our success. if we have election reform like proportional representation,
which we call fair representation voting, that would be good for republicans in places where republicans never get elected. like urban republicans. it would be good for democrats, rural democrats, and also creates space for independent and third parties. this is the most important election reform issue today in the united states. more important than campaign finance. nine out of ten elections for u.s. house are uncompetitive in the united states. so doesn't matter how much money people raise, because the issue is partisanship, and gerrymandering, and that's polluting our politics. so for an independent like me, i split the ticket. i vote for the person and not the party. so i want to have more choices on the ballot and also really concerned about partisanship.