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you are recorded in history in a very special way and i'm proud of you. so many women are proud of you. with that, tell us, what else are you going to do? >> i believe that social change comes in little steps and then you go backwards and you have to fight and keep moving forward. so what i think you're going to see from emily's list is phenomenal wins in 2016 but i think women will help take back the senate, maybe even the house we are very strong candidates but we cannot take anything for granted. at some point, the pendulum swings back and they start taking away our rights. we see this this incredible assault on planned parenthood, the war on women and it is a constant process.
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there's no one victory and thank you very much i'm done. no. it is a constant commitment, year after year after year. so what i'm going to continue doing is to stay in that fight and i think the members of emily's list will. we've learned that sometimes we win and sometimes we lose but we never stop and we keep packing that sailboat to get to where were going. >> thank you for reminding all of us that even though you make progress that you should always be aware that going backwards is something that could happen. >> it does. if we are reminded of that and we keep that on our radar, we won't get so focused on the progress in saying that we have done this. will always be prepared to fight that fight.
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there are those forces that would take this back. that's a good, good lesson to share. >> it's a critical lesson. otherwise we will win and it will all be gone before we know it. >> do you have any final words you would like to give to the women, the thousands of women who are listening and watching you today? >> i think politics, even though we see it as something that's awful and makes us angry a lot, when women win there are a lot of good stories about how there are so many good things that happen in politics. women can participate at all levels, whether you're a voter, contributor or you run for office yourself, but the country needs the involvement of women. it makes our country better. >> thank you so very much. i have a copy of your book here and you have not signed it for me. >> i'm going to do that. >> this would be a very special addition to my library so i'm going to give you my book and somebody will hand you a pen and
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in just a few minutes, you signed my book. >> i will do that. >> i can say that i was here today and i had a wonderful opportunity to interview you and reminisce a little bit and talk about the future and just enjoy your company. >> thank you. >> you're so welcome. >> this weekend, the city tour hosted by our cable partners and it explores the history of las vegas nevada. on book tv we will visit the riders block, an independent bookstore and sanctuary in downtown las vegas. they talk about the las vegas literary scene and why he chose to open the only independent bookstore in the city. >> in terms of having a good independent bookstore, there's a lot of great readers here and a population of excellent riders in the city has a little more
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literal vibrancy then i think people are aware of. >> then oscar goodman recounts his life of his book in being oscar. >> a couple weeks later, a phone call cam in at the hacienda. it's from a refuted mobster per his brother had been arrested and he wanted to know who was the best criminal lawyer in las vegas. nothing changes over all the years. he lifted up the phone and cupped it and said who's the best criminal lawyer in las vegas. the guy said call oscar. >> on american history tv, we visit the center for gaming research at the university of nevada archives to see items in their collection related to the history of gambling in las vegas. you will learn about how the industry evolved. >> gambling in las vegas goes back to the beginning of las vegas so las vegas was established by what is now the union pacific railroad and then
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it was the salt lake los angeles san pedro railroad and they bought a ranch from a woman and decided they were going to lay a town out here. >> then will visit the testing museum to learn about the nevada test site. a u.s. department of energy reservation located west of las vegas. it was established in 1951 for the testing of nuclear devices. from the 50s to the early '90s mushroom clouds from the atmosphere test could be seen for 100 miles. >> they actually to advertise in advance so that local people and terrorists planning the itinerary can come to witness and observe that in nuclear blast. >> watch the cities to her saturday on book tv.
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the c-span cities to her, working with our cable affiliates and visiting cities across the country. >> citizens have got to feel that their vote matters, that there voice matters and their concerns and struggles will be listened to. >> sunday night on q&a, they talk about their career and public service. >> they help shepherd the change whereby senators were not appointed by the legislature, but demanded elections. i guess, i don't know if it was the first, but the idea that it wasn't going to be the party bosses who made the decision of who the nominees were in smoke-filled back rooms, but
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rather the people who were going to get a chance to vote in free and fair elections. >> >> and then set out to become the majority leader of the united states senate and did the niche i have a confession to make to do this here is what i thought
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he how could anyone get mitch mcconnell to talk for one hour? because in your own book you point out you only speak to the press when it is your vantage and he talked when bill gates cave in to see you you would just sit there and you would recount some b-s told president george to be bush that you were excited over a certain vote and he said really? how can you tell so why so few words? >> cry of not afraid of talking but i learn more by listening so frequently and start off listening and think about what i want to say before i do it. so it is fair to say in the era of trump probably very different is my approach to comment on public affairs to make you are not the first
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one the late bob novak said the hardest interview with meet the press was senator mansfield that you ask a question is a yep and notes and he ran out of questions the easiest with hubert humphrey one question if he talked for 30 minutes. >> you don't get in trouble for you don't say and there is nothing wrong with being cautious about your comments i don't mind talking but usually like to know what i am talking about before i ventured down that path. >> you are not so conscious in your book we will talk about polio your vote for lyndon johnson over civil-rights and when it gets to professor obama and senator harry reid dash your democratic counterpart then
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most people would be surprised to learn you are an all-american tailgater at the university of louisville so we will start with polio 1944 and living with your mom in alabama and the doctor says he has polio it is hard to imagine today how terrifying those words must have been. >> i have subsequently learned it was a serious epidemic -- epidemic all over the country and the disease is very unpredictable if you had the flu that is what you would think and a couple of weeks later some people would be completely normal or some would be dead. in my case it affected my
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left quadricep between my knee and my five and one of the great good fortunes of herbalife this riddle crossroads not even a stoplight where my mother was living with her sister what my dad was overseas fighting the germans was 60 miles from palm springs sandra's about having gone there himself in the '20s. >> because he had polio at age 39 completely paralyzed below the waist. >> your mother had no way to know if you would be completely paralyzed. >> but the worse case scenario would have been a brace on my leg i have as severe a case as president roosevelt but a i am two
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years old you know, what kids are like they taught her physical therapy regimen to be administered four times a day and to keep me off my feet so she literally watch me like the talk for two years every waking moment and tried to conveyed to me dated one to think that i couldn't walk but i shouldn't. >> that is what tyrol do she watched me every minute and prevented me from prematurely walking. >> obviously she told me that years later my first memory was were they told my mother i would be okay and i can walk without a limp and we stopped at the shoe store
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to give parallel top shoes a was a symbol of a have a normal childhood. >> how amazing you have a chapter in your part book called resilience so it must come from that to some extent? >> and if you stick to something you keep working on it and the chances are you may actually overcome. >> any impediment today? >> yes the quadricep is more prominent going downstairs bay and up but i have had the perfectly normal life but i could play baseball.
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>> let's move on to dicky even grew in your father encouraged him? >> i had no choice it was the situation now was about seven and i had a friend across the street and he was also a bully and was pushing me around my dad was working in the yard one day and called me over and said much of the way he is pushing you around when you beat him up and said he is older and bigger so given his choice side chose dickey and i went across the street and started swinging and beat
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him up and bid his class as it was an incredible lesson and i thought about that program life at critical moments when people try a to push around. >> jumping ahead to do the university of lenovo as people might wonder what to those senators talk about? arms are you were taught about the diversity of local sports but before i get to that your honors thesis was senator henry clay and that inspired you to become a united states senator. >> iran for president of the student body and high-school a very contentious race so i began to follow politics are
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remembered age 14 when the coverage was really don't. >> there was a big zenith radio. >> said that may be watching. in to try to practice this to see if i could get good at iran for president of student council and clay was the most famous politician. >> what about him inspired you most?
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>> guest: that netted had to become a major statesman live in in kentucky people focused in their wanted to learn more about him. >> he wanted to know about crafting compromises. >> did is absolutely essential and we do it every single day to make the senate function. so i did write pieces of a compromise of 1850 and continue to follow him as aspiring politicians do. >> the athletic programs describe your tailgating schedule football is an
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important part of life. and one goes back to college in regard every home game and the occasional a game and we make a day of it to go well earlier friend has harvey in the parking lot and talk about what will happen in rigo to the game then we talked but what did happen one of the great joys of life. >> host: jumping ahead their early sixties we both drove to washington and reach realized then day dream mustang. [laughter] i worked for senator howard baker and i can remember
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1969 to meet that smart young legislative eight mitch mcconnell you lead a march on the space civil-rights and were in washington as i was there for the "i have a dream" speech and goldwater, speaking sure president the college republicans but vintage -- rev voted for clinton johnson. >> he was the defining issue of our generation and those fortunate enough and accepted the invitation to then that 63 year the summer of 63 we got to see that "i have a dream" speech than
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the 64 was an intern in senator cooper's office. we broke the filibuster and renominated barry goldwater. i was mad as hell. and i was so irritated about goldwater voting against the civil-rights bill with the republican party in a way that i thought would be unfortunate that in retrospect was a huge mistake but it was a protest vote. >> that carried over when president reagan vetoed the sanctions on south africa for apartheid you voted to override the veto which most did not do.
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>> i just felt like reagan and was simply wrong whether or not the sanctions could work will people think that they never work they worked in burma and number of years later and i thought reagan was wrong. >> you mentioned burma that was a pretty extraordinary thing lasting over 20 years i remember you standing up watching speeches on the senate floor wondering what you we're doing. >> started to follow her after the nobel peace prize in those listeners who are not familiar, possibly the founder he did a live very
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long but was assassinated. and then going back to burma in 1988 with the movement started and then they decided to have a free and fair election. and then was put under house arrest in her own house where she you the major most of the time for the 21 years. into author along those burma sanctions.
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>> amazingly enough with 2011 so we could talk on the phone and got to see her in person and so they did in the september 2012 and now the day facto leadership even the constitution prohibits anyone who was married to a foreigner to be president to keep her from being president she is a president who is a close ally.
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>> it is a scholarship program for the best and the brightest you have to be from kentucky and is designed to try to compete with the ivy league schools and those kids to stay in kentucky for their education. 70% of the graduates have chosen. and then to go off to the east but i bring in speakers in then they get to meet privately but then they address a larger public audience.
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>> switching to politics you are undefeated u.s. of six races in kentucky and 12 counting primaries. all of us are a political accident even though we want to admit it. 30 points behind. >> in july of the election year. >> it was a desperate situation. roger ailes was pretty well known. >> in those days he was doing political consulting. >> willing to take on somebody 30 points by nine to? >> and i appreciated the fact to take leon but this is a tough competitor and to
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end down 34 points i said is this race over? he said i have never known anybody to come from behind this late to win but i don't think it is over. very competitive. and and what have a of bader vulnerability is with the needle in the haystack and then to be making speeches for money so he turned that
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and then out looking and the campaign got people interested to talk about it. and then that the guy who looks like the actor that was chased by dogs in the debt than a tree in the line was we've got you now. not exactly a landslide. >> the we lost the seats in the senate with the democratic incumbent senator. >> i think your democratic opponents say your method of campaigning and probably
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your toughest was your last one because the senate conservatives coming and you of the right and then the left in to start off with the republican opponent. >> you and i witnessed the results of 2010 and 2012. >> i am glad all of the attention is on you. >> they basically costas five races in 2010. but quit nominating those who cannot win so in 2014 and said we will not allow that to happen in. so we got the most electable
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people nominated. and then to make a point that if they want to win the election is to beat them has you indicated was the pretty credible guy he carried to arad of 120 counties senate this is the only thing i will read out of your book but it says the conservative fund is wandering around the country destroying the difference is that they stroll into mitch mcconnell.
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and then as a result but in several others we took the senate back. the most electable candidate on the november ballot everywhere. >> host: cross filed with the senate democratic leader harry reid. and able spoke and said tuesday that we'd all like each other but we're good friends in the city were friends with harry reid but then you say he has said jekyll and hyde personality and you think women are dogs and p.i.g.s. [laughter] he said he may be the worst geordie leader so the lesson is a place of relationships and about this relationship between the democratic and
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republican leader? are you friends? >> i have been very public about a couple of things i'd like the way he shut the senate down and prevented people from voting and i think the rhetoric is very inappropriate. >> like what? >> just a few weeks before we tape this he took all of donald trump's most averages cummins prison the equivalents we're not hitting all the time we have to talk and a daily basis
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but my goal with the current majority is to be is different in every way from the way he ran the previous majority i do object to the way he ran the senate and the rhetoric like alan greenspan he may be many things but a political hack he isn't. with in the middle of a military exercise. so i fail to express my objection to that type of rhetoric that is frequently flat out wrong. >> one other person the you have a chapter entitled professor obama.
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how did you choose? >> i think he would do of better job to deal with others if he would spend less time to appoint whoever he is talking to police to draw a contrast he doesn't spend time to convince me of things that i don't believe a letter to try to convince them of things that he doesn't believe we don't waste any time on that. we know how far each other can go. and to be successful and his political career but i don't
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think the is incessant lectures are hopeful in the outcome with some type of negotiation. >> if you do talk about that a lot and then you could accomplish more together because divided government is when you spread the responsibility around. and to make a speech early on in you never heard back? >> so whose fault is it we haven't taken advantage i do
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a fireball board were to was the only major reporter. that in the meantime we have worked to do that was snipped off by almost everyone but i think divided government is the only time you can do big transformative things with the break-in and tipper neil raise the age of social security or tax reform and then to balance the budget three years in a row but to give you an example of a unified government could not
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produce the big outcome george bush was just reelected and asked us to tackle social security and to spend one year to get any democrat even lieberman to join with us your the white house and the house and if you want to do something on social security? so my big disappointment is what has to be done for the path that we're headed the entitlement eligibility you have to change the eligibility for medicare and social security to fit the demographics of tomorrow the
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president knows that and is a very smart guy is 30 years sanders need to do it again. and then any other way but these two big transformative issues will into a forest because the nation's ceo does not want to do it. >> the best was civil rights in the '60s and we both saw that i know when i first came up here to walk it one dash to work with senator baker and for days around the big table as they work together to get enough votes to get to 67 and they did
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that because of the special relationship and john sherman cooper with the voting rights act with johnson's daughter lucy. >> i had never met her and i said we have never met but i was in this very room when your dad signed the voting rights act of 1965 she said i was to i said i am sure everybody knew you were there and she said i will tell you why. daddy said to me getting in the car i will taking the witness something important
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and explained why it would be prominently featured in his remarks and to say why would you have a republican there? natalie did most of the republicans vote for it but the nation will be more likely to be accepted if we have done this together and then to explain why she was there in 1965. >> and they have a relationship the senator baker would tell me as they would take a phone call in the office to say no mr. president i cannot have good drink tonight and 30 minutes later there was a rustle outside into beagles' david followed by the president of the united states and the johnson said if you want savagery and
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with me i'll have one with u.s. they disappeared in the backroom of the same office of the civil rights bill so that relationship of divided government and to allude to with earlier the of main goal there is something of a historian and went on the floor before the majority leader the weight senator mike mansfield rand what did he mean by that? >> personally have to open in the senate up their early 15 roll-call votes of amendment the first year of the new majority had over
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200 reopen the senate and let people vote no. to talk about regular order and people don't know what that means. it means the bill is work daunted gathering comes to the floor with bipartisan support with a better chance of success the best example i can think happens to be yours the complete rewrite of no child left behind that was unworkable and unpopular in by the time he brought out of committee the democrats and republicans lined up relatively open for amendments not been a everybody got what they wanted in the impasse of the majority we had done that time after time under this
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majority whether trade promotion authority or the five-year highway bill comprehensive energy bill permit internet tax moratorium major opioid heroin addiction go we are hoping to achieve something important again coming out of your committee related to the incredible lockyer's that seem to be just around the corner for our country. what does this have in common in the time of divided government? we focus on what we can agree on into those because i think what they say we do you have differences the look for what you agree on and do those and that is how the majority is totally different than the previous one. >> wet what you have to do
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is give the other side credit or in my case with no child left behind that never would have happened without senator patty murray had not been so interested in the results as i had but it is not a bad thing because somebody gets credit usually helps to get you where you want to go be you came here 50 years ago or more than not working for senator cooper what is the most different today and what is the same? >> what is different is the two party labels mean something that when we first came to washington it was liberal republicans or conservative democrats but the two party labels today are more descriptive of the two-party system republicans are right-of-center and the
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democrats are left of center stowe the labels mean more today than they did in that is different the white think isn't there isn't as much animosity your is a willingness to work together as is portrayed in the media but with the internet and 24 hour cable television television, people get hammered with what they teach and journalism school so people are way more upset about the process than they ought to be. but they are legitimate upset were they are in their lives and that is a fact the average american is there for thousand dollars per year worse off today than when a bomb became to office and that is a legitimate top
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each the peseta is not dysfunctional used to be denied any more in one of my frustrations is that not many people know that. >> remember when i came to the senate as the senator i thought i knew i was getting into but i did not realize what it was like to work and a body of unanimous consent but if they listen carefully on c-span they'll say i ask consent that the senate opens tomorrow at 930 and if one senator objects then you have to start over so if you had to suggest to someone a book to read, about understanding the senate?
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>> it would put people to sleep because the senate ironically is working the way george washington predicted according to legend he was asked at the constitutional convention what you think the senate will be like? he said the saucer under the teacup it would slosh down and cool off why did he say that? senators or not popularly elected by the state legislatures and only one-third of the senate was every two years so the founders wanted the senate to be a place where the brakes could be applied easily than over the years as you suggest that notion of unlimited debate to a power every single senator had impact if it was like trying both the speaker at
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the top that with the majority leader having tried first recognition so stepping back from what what should people take away from the senate? it is a place where things were thought over on a strictly partisan basis unless you have a huge number of your party. >> the first chapter of the books of master of the senate is called the death of the senate that struck me win after the election in the engineers are coming and they unbolt of a desk moving to the other side to even that out that is a wonderful way to think about the way it works i will switchgears you were married and had
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three daughters and then divorced when you were a bachelor 13 years and then at the suggestion of a friend you had your assistant telephoned the assistant the chairman of the federal maritime commission and you met elaine chao that was not very romantic beginning. [laughter] >> i had befriended a couple of people and i was a staffer in the senate and kept up with the over the years after i had my own career and i had been seen go choir while dancing gold coming into the senate i wanted to meet somebody new so i called the befriend from a long time ago i said you know, anybody knew? she says i have a friend
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family is a classic example of why we never want to curtail in this legislation. >> talk about her family's story it is remarkable. >> her mom and dad born in mainland china dodging the japanese invasion then when they wrote the older it was a communist revolution separately they manage to get out of china to go to taiwan and they met briefly and my father-in-law had taken a liking to her son spent two years in taiwan to find her they got married and had three daughters and wife is the oldest the he was ambitious and wanted to do better so he came to america for three years by himself working multiple jobs to get a start in the
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shipping business he was a ship's captain in taiwan's and wanted to be more than that. so for three years worked local jobs in called for the late mother-in-law and the three daughters to come over they came over on a freighter the only people other than the crew finally ended up in a small apartment in queens and he kept working they ended up with a six daughters for the went to harvard business school and a lawyer. [laughter] and built a very successful shipping business and that is the kind of story you see all across america which is another reason even when we are frustrated about our attitude stealing with
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immigration remember a lusby red african-americans right here against our will we're sons and daughters of risktakers so those that come here legally with ambition now want to accomplish tend to be the best americans so that as a classic example of that. >> but the living senators john mccain you had a the big brawl over the first amendment and make some people may not know that it had to do with no limits on campaign finance disclosure and devoted against a constitutional amendment to have banned desecration of the american flags you were out there on the first amendment but john mccain disagree san joaquin fine
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gold past that was pretty acrimonious a wager relationship today? >> very close that is a good example to have a knock down drag issue that went on for about 10 years and was pretty stressful but i call them up that was one of the worst days of my life actually was watching the republican house and senate and the president pass the bill was opposed to and deeply opposed to my call them up and said congratulations you one i've lost we found there were a lot of other things we could work on together we have become friends and allies on a whole variety of things of the with the senate ought to work and frequently does not sure many people though
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that. >> you consider him an american hero? >> absolutely. >> give me water to sentences of the following senators the first thing that comes to your mind. henry clay. >> the great compromiser. >> lyndon johnson. >>. >> as a senator? >> overrated. >> mike mansfield? >> master of the senate's. >> dirksen. >> the indispensable player in the unsung hero in the civil rights movement. >> senator cooper of kentucky. >> role model as a young man
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great conviction very smart. >> ted kennedy. >> many books about him have been written he and he roared he was the light of the senate he was passion about almost everything but in many ways it think the most accomplished is that he never got to be president never was attorney general but in almost every way the most accomplished senator we used to laugh with him about going to those dinners you decide to mention caddie's name. [laughter] automate river speech on the senate floor of american history he came over and solicited and sponsored my bill and got co-sponsors
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within one day he knew exactly how to make the senate worked. senator byrd? >>. >> could well have been senate historian. >> during a the presidential campaign governor christie got over senator rubio view say in your book when starboard myself to tears i know i am beginning to drive the message home. so redundancy is a good thing? >> i'm paula one of the few people that thought rubio was doing the right thing in that debate. [laughter] good politics i think it is repetitious -- repetition if you try to drive the message you have to repeat it of what i tried to do that in meetings of their colleagues
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one time is not enough. come on the 34 stop paying attention the first time since you're really trying to make a point repetition -- repetition is good. >> a period of time with your motion after three treasure finally collected with the number two position 2002 than one month later trial what said something about thurman than suddenly he had to resign as a position you have always wanted you would seem to be a logical person but first to the position. then you had triple bypass surgery so what was your range of emotions? >> i know the guy was ever going to have an opportunity
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to be the leader but fortunately the health problem i had worked out fine but i had doubts during that period i was just bypassed by someone 10 years younger so i wondered if i would ever have an opportunity for the job i have been clearly hoping to have for quite a while so was a challenging period but i know what to make with stories seem unique but just don't quit and keep plugging away the chances are you'll get it. i tell students spend a lot of time that we all have
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speed bumps and setbacks are we defeated? or do we shake offing keep on going? i got my second chance and he decided to leave the senate and i got to be the leader of the party but then there was another disappointment not majority leader but minority leader. >> can you give the blame for some of that to the republicans and the talking your book quite a bit about that the politics of fear tile gestures. >> widely shut down the government to you defund obamacare? that is a futile gesture obama is in the white house obviously he will not sign such a bill but the politics of futile gesture is the way to describe tactical maneuvers that have no


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