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the public service isn't just about winning elections and building up your majority. it's about what happens after you take that oath of office. clint eastwood, you may remember from the last convention, was once elected a small town mayor out in california. he said one time, winning an election is a good news-bad news thing. the good news is, okay, now you are the mayor. the bad news is okay, now you are the mayor. but i think there's a lot of good news from the texas house back in what we've done. we balanced our budget. we have $10 billion in reserve in our rainy day fund. we have cut property taxes, business taxes and fees on texas district we've kept our business climate the strongest in the united states. we've improved transportation without raising taxes and moving
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away from relying on polls and debt. [applause] we have increased choice in education by creating more high quality charter schools. we passed -- [applause] and as you may remember we passed the strongest voter id law in the united states. [applause] we've increased fairness in our judicial system and we've made an unprecedented commitment to border security. you sent republicans to the texas house in big numbers to deliver conservative results and that's what we have done. let's keep this momentum going. as i mentioned earlier i am chairing the republican legislative campaign committee for this cycle which supports our candidates all over the country. it's a job i'm honored to have, and the good news is, and badges
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come as web a lot of ground to defend. our party now has a majority 69 of 99 legislative chambers in the united states. [applause] that is more majorities than ever before. democrats have lost 900 state legislative seats across the country during the obama presidency. apparently president obama is about as good at protecting democrats as hillary clinton is at protecting classified information. [applause] so i'm very involved in supporting state level candidates across the country but my most important job this fall is in protecting our majority in the texas house. i'm here to ask for your help in that nation. some very, very could legislators such as cindy
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burkett and linda koop anderson up in the dallas area and rick, john in my backyard. thank you. they're facing really tough challenge in november to anyone who's watched closely the texas legislature you know born just a few votes can be. are encumbered republicans have great records to run a result make sure that their constituents to live in those areas not all about it. so please keep working for our candidates in the texas house along with everything else you do. take nothing for granted and let's defend the solid red majority in the texas house. as i wrap up i want to thank you again for allowing me to be here with such a distinguished other speakers. we hope you enjoy this convention, even if it simply do. it's one i'm sure that none of us will forget anytime soon.
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thank you for what you do for the republican party and most of all -- >> we will leave this conversation to hear from the leader of the uk independence party, nigel farage th. he will be discussing world politics in 2016. this is live from cleveland here on c-span2. >> one hundred plus years old and we are now a startup can actually put and going out audience online. what has been steadfast about mcclatchy is our commitment. to public service journalism. we are the winner of 52 pulitzer prizes, 11 with gold medals for public service. here's why we believe we are particularly position to offer insights in this election year. we have -- you will see one of our journalists from south carolina on the panel. the two barges newspapers in north carolina and other journals will be with us or today on the panel.
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he's also has a very popular, a video series a newsletter. we encourage you to tune in. he will be entering -- and didn't nigel farage. at the time he argued the flood of immigrants, the flood of immigrants from southern europe has depressed the wages of nativeborn british workers to earlier this month he resigned as the leader of the united kingdom independence party your part of his decision to resign he said on the flexibility want his country back, and that he wants his life back. he remains a member of the european parliament to the southeast of england. he said he accepted an invitation to come to the republican convention because it interest in what donald trump had to say. and that perhaps britain's exit from the eu holds a lesson for the united states. we are eager to listen.
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[applause] >> welcome. glad you could join us. i'll start out with a pretty easy thing. i have read that you like a glass of beer once in a while. >> it's been known. >> i have to tell you a few nights ago the city of cleveland hosted a terrific party for all the news media right acros acroe river, beautiful evening and it was all beer. beer and bacon blast. they had beers from ohio and michigan and illinois and microbreweries. you missed of that. so unfortunately -- >> i hope i haven't wasted my time coming. i do like to go out for bigger i've always worked hard. i spent 20 years in business before getting involved in politics. i start work at 5:00 in the morning. i owe myself a little treat at the end of the day. but it's also, kind of the
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press, give the impression i spent all day in the pub is not quite true. but in terms of connecting with the kind of voters that turned out and vote for brexit cup it's been quite useful. >> you make i may not know we have a standard question we ask in the polls. would you like to have beer with that candidate but it wasn't particularly opera for george w. bush but it is a measure of that connection to voters. having said that you missed that bit other than the beer why are you here's because because a lot of people want to hear the brexit store. i think, brexit was a huge shock for the establishment in london and even bigger shock for the establishment in brussels. and what i see in america, people asking what does brexit mean? what does it mean for relations between the u.s. in the uk? what does it mean for ttip, foreign policy? i think also the republicans
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i've spoken to think okay, if the brexit campaign reached the beer drinking voters if you like, but the guys who don't normally vote or given up voting 20 years ago. if the brexit reach those people how do we as a party in the run up to these elections reach the same people? >> why here at the republican national convention? it's not a real traditional thing to have a significant foreign politician to come in to sidelined one of our conventions. >> i was invited. i thought i would come along to see. and boy, you do things on a biscuit in this country. that was my first impression yesterday, what a huge if it is. >> have you been over to the arena? >> i was there last night i listened to chris christie speak. i had to look at that and it's one big event, isn't? >> it is a big event and we have another one next week spirit which is even bigger i'm told. >> have the democrats invited
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you speak was not. nobody. i can't imagine why. >> let's talk about donald trump. first, you have been quoted as saying he has reservations about his character, particularly commenting on is that i have reservations to encouraging people to beat up protesters. one or two things like that. what do you think of donald trump? >> i'm not an american. i haven't got a vote in this election so interested, i want to see him speak. i want to get a feel perhaps more than seeing someone in the flesh than just on television. i'm going to be very careful. i think a big mistake for for politicians to tell people how to vote and how to think. i'll tell you what i said there. obama came to united kingdom during the brexit debate and actually should always be grateful, eternally grateful to obama because he came to our country. he was rude to us. he told us what we should do and
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he led to a big brexit bounced several points so thank you, obama, for helping us wi with ts referendum. the moral of the story, i shall not say at the end of the week think people should vote for although i have decided i would not vote for hillary if you paid for me. a sense of entitlement puts me off. what obama has done, what post obama, what trump gets right it seems to because he's prepared to talk about some of the issues that perhaps others find a bit awkward, but uncover. they would rather brush them under the cover. can't talk about those things that generate a huge level of interest. my reservations were that, i've been called over the top once or twice i think some of donald trump's comments are pretty out there. >> bad? >> i think to say that he would then all muslims from coming into america, difficult to
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enforce. what is your cities are working overseas are serving in the u.s. overseas and a muslim? i can see what he's trying to do. he's tried to get some big message is out there, big wages. is trying to reach voters who feel frustrated, the feel frustrated, who perhaps are a little bit scared. i get what he's doing it just occasionally the style of it. that makes even me wince a little bit. >> have you met in? >> no, i haven't spent when you meet him this week's? >> don't know. >> one of the things i noted having watched your speeches and your parliament and, of course, on television in britain particularly during this recent campaign is you a pretty good at it. you speak very common to have an oppressive way of speaking. you speak in sentences and paragraphs. donald trump does not exactly speak always in the same level. what advice would you give him for his big speech tomorrow
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night? >> i thought it was a speech i thought after super tuesday, and i watched that innocent me it was a little bit different donald trump he wasn't quite such a high pitch. he wasn't trying quite as hard. he seemed to be slightly magnanimous in victory. i thought if that's the style that trump is going to adopt his going to win over even more people. i think something that repeated the style of the speech rather than, i mean, it's important to punch at big messages during a speech but you can't do that in the whole of the speech. >> talk about barack obama. you are not a fan of barack bark obama spent on a huge fan of barack obama. without them we would not have one the referenda. he was very helpful. no, not a fan. >> is it adequate you've called him the most anti-british american there has ever been. >> most anti-british american
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president. >> george washington who kind of broke with britain? >> that was a long time ago. i think we can put that behind us now. >> james madison, burned the white house. >> i remember that vaguely. look, obama, not. i felt a certain sense of resentment from obama towards great britain, the united kingdom. it was interesting when we had the oil spill and it was bp of course if he just couldn't say british petroleum. i thought you were saying something spent interesting. you didn't think this last visit, i know his first visit, he and the first lady ruffled some feathers. i think there was a lot of criticism in the british press about the way the first lady dress when she met the queen. you don't think it's moved up over at the number of visits since been? >> i'm sure when they could to buckingham palace they are
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probably quite well received. in downing street they would be well received but no, frankly i thought the way that obama behaved during his visit during the brexit campaign, yeah, he kind of was talking down britain. he was telling us that we should stay part of an organization where our parliament was over ruled on courts were awful but he's telling us to do things but he wouldn't suggest the american people should do. and i also think, i think the state department, frankly american politics has completely misread what the european project is. kind of what i've been to washington from it's a bit like nafta. know. it is a political unit and one that is being forged without the consent of almost anybody. has a big mistake i think is what the state department line has been, that's okay, provided
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the united kingdom is inside the european union we will get the european union that is closer to american interest. the truth of it is we are very close allies, big trading partners and now we are free, from the shackles of political union we can get on doing trade deals together and your best ally, your best foreign policy outlet in the world is now free. so i think washington has had this one for a long time. >> talk a little more about the comparisons of the brexit movement and what's happening to good with the trump campaign to what lessons we can learn from what lessons we should avoid. >> that big one is that capital cities, perhaps necessarily, that's where big decisions politically get me. that's where big media operate from. and i think perhaps right across the way we've seen the develop of a professional political
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class and kind of a political class and media class are interchangeable. so indicates the united kingdom over the last few years, our political class always the same school, also been to the same university, all with the same degree. never had a proper job in the lives. run straight into politics. they married each other sisters and you finish up with this very narrow view of the world. so for us it's kind of inside him 25 which is the personal road around london. a whole set of attitudes and ideas that increase a people out in the country have turned against. without those. and i suspect that the washington beltway, the development of the political class in washington, isn't that to some extent what the tea party was all about? >> it's interesting because you talk about the weddings and marrying into each other's families.
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you are a where donald trump nature the clintons came to his wedding? >> i know. >> kind of the political world of accounts, clintons, the immediate author at the same thing. how ca can you possibly be an outsider against the establishment's? >> but if you're at big business figure in a country like this it makes sense as a businessman or a businesswoman to have relations to both camps because you never know who's going to win the next election. from a commercial viewpoint i get it. you are right, he is a very, very rich but what we've seen in the uk is the voters, they are not concerned where you come from. they are concerned about whether your genuinely talking to them and genuinely listening to them. what i've seen is that blue-collar class of people whose life is not very good over the last decade or two, and what they don't want our politicians
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sort of pat them on that and patronizing. they want politicians who speak incorrectly and understand their concerns. >> i want to talk about the voters from the solidity of the voters who came to your site in the uk and the voters who seem to be compelling the donald trump campaign. they seem to be white working class, more male than female. is that canada what it lines up in your eyes? >> it's not as simplistic as that. just over 30% of the black and ethnic minority did vote for brexit. it is absolute as simple as that but overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly in the united kingdom the traditional working classes, whether they are blue-collar, and social workers, whether they're self-employed people running small businesses, overwhelmingly those people did vote for brexit. why did they do it? it isn't just immigration and
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emigration was a really important part of this but actually believing in your country, believing that you should have your own parliament that makes your own laws come actually being unashamed to be patriotic. some things, kind of westminster. >> talk more about the moving forces that drives the electorate. immigration can you said, you walked past a pretty quick. >> look, emigration, if we would just having finished the reference that was purely about sovereignty, that was purely about self-government, self-determination to it would've been very difficult to win that referendum. but what opened her emigration did, we've had since the 1950s we've had a managed immigration policy into the united kingdom. net migration rent out about
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30,000 people here in the 1950s, '60s and '70s, '80s and '90s. we knew how to do that. we had wanted to difficult but generally of all the countries in europe we have the best race relations, the best integrated levels into our society. we had a tony blair government is quite deliberate he wanted to open up the doors but then we about in former communist countries to countries in some cases that have not made the transition to being full western democracies. a tony blair, estimated opening up the door for these countries would lead to an extra 13,000 people coming to you. it was obvious to many of us that action it would be many multiples of that. so we now have officials net migration figures, isa official figures, i'm skeptical about the i suspect it might be a lot
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higher but official figures are 10 times what those figures were spent this is all legal. we draw a distinction, legal immigrant which everyone seems to be for and illegal. the entire come camping is doctor illegal campaign. >> we are talking legal. the point i kept hearing in this campaign was that is or should be -- the first two words on it are european union. and so our population is 65 million, perhaps a bit-that but that is not as able to 508 million people, any of them who can come to the uk. the argument in this referendum is the only way you control the numbers to come to the country is to leave the eu can take back control of reporters and what people out there so it is they
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saw their wages being compressed, which the events of the 2007. they saw the access to getting the kids age five into local primary school and getting an appointment with her local doctor, getting people into the housing. so things that the last two or three generations have taken for granted by the normal things you would expect. >> in this emigration, similar, not exactly the same. a lot of talk about muslims, particularly from the middle east. i believe you would first talk about muslims and then, let them in and then change it to a should be mostly christians, is that correct? >> not know. what i talked about is who qualifies as a refugee. it's pretty obvious that that tiny christian population from countries like iraq and syria
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are generally being persecuted because of their religious belief. we are a country that has given refuge. my family, my family were refugees. going back 300 years but they were french protestants being burned at the stake for the ballistic i'm sure some in westminster would like to bring that back today, but we've always done that we've always given refuge to people. what european union has done and i want about this april and lastly, they intimated in eu asylum policy that has drawn the boundaries of who qualifies to be a refugee, asylum seeker. they have drawn them so wide that it needs countless millions of people coming to the european unique i think it made a real mistake. >> before the full this entanglement, before you exercise the exit will be a
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flood of migration into the uk? >> look, we are not, i had this language also the rent from. nigel farage wants to pull up the drawbridge as if you want to go back 500 years and defend the white cliffs of dover. i don't want to put up the drawbridge. i want to control who comes over the drawbridge. that's why we talk in the campaign about an australian style points system where it isn't just the members that come in that you're in control of but you actually choose the people, whether it's by qualification, checking criminal records or whatever else it may be. so frankly what we talked about in the brexit campaign was the light and the other normal country in the world. to come to america, to get a work permit or to settle out have to pass a series of tests and thus we voted today. there is a danger that if this
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brexit process takes two and half years or whatever, there's a danger that could be a big flood of people, particularly given the mess that you're so busy and. greece is once again heading for some repayment that she can't meet and the italian banking system is in a very, very perilous state. i think the british government at some point on this one have to say hang on, everybody that has come legally will have fully protected rights from this moment on we would do things to fully. >> is there any xenophobia in all this, both better and -- >> there is no xenophobia in saying we are proud to be the united kingdom. we believe in our own parliament making our own laws our own supreme court being the arbiter of what is right and what is wrong. and that we should control a number of people come into the country. there is no xenophobia in that whatsoever.
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i had been accused of all sorts of things. i've been accused of being anti-european, sf that everybody south of county was simply fight for. that's just not the case. i work for a french company. all right, they sacked me but i'm not bearing a grudge about it. i'm married to a german. you see, amazing to i am married to a german so no one needs to tell me about the dangers of living in a german dominated household. i did it. i did it. and my intention post-brexit is i'm not going to be a bit for your not going to travel around europe and going to go enjoy and help them work with of independence move is because the don't you see the eu is bad for britney i think it's bad for the whole european continent speed i want to ask about this notion of spreading not necessary new but other people and move somewhere talk about if we cannot about
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people seem to be disconnecting from certain institutions, alliances. i can talk about the conventions themselves in america may soon be out of date partly because half the country doesn't call them immigrants and republicans anymore. not to mention technology doesn't make nested for us to be in this love seat and be enjoying the beer that you didn't get to taste. there was a report out this week from a great polling institution, the pew research center, amateur americans don't call themselves into religion. and then we have this which is britain here, is this an international movement afoot, disconnect, pull back, isolate? what's going on? >> disconnect with politics, that where was about political capital in cities. what is fascinating about a brexit is that we have such a big turnout, over 70% voted in a
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certain age brackets nearly 90% of people who went out and voted in this referendum. so brexit reengaged me. people in britain are talk about politics again. whether that's a temporary phenomenon because it is just therefore this vote, was it could have some lasting consequences i think that's very difficult to say you're what i would point out is right across the european continent, there are countries whose attitudes towards being covered from brussels are very, very similar to the british. i do think that we'll see more referendums. >> if there's a movement and its international, what name would you put to it but what would you call it quits is it just -- >> and european democrats. people who want to live in democratic nation-states that try to get a cup cooperative i want to be good next door neighbors. there are lots and lots of things we cooperate.
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we are living in the same time zone. to our lots of things we do. but you do not surrender your democratic rights this institutions in brussels. it's crazy. i think there will be big pressure for referendum in denmark, then we could get the non. there's a chance in the netherlands so we could get nexit. and sweden, it could be sexit, couldn't? >> i set that right up for you. what about of the alliance's? what about nato? .. think it is an
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organization, needs to redefine what it is there for. in terms of nato and anglo-american relations we are in a better position than we were before independence day because increasingly we were looking at foreign-policy, the eu to do it for us over iran or the ukraine but that was what was happening. very ambitious plan, you might say whenever ambitions they have the reality is within the eu now that the uk won't be part of that, effectively the idea of the european army diminishes and that is good. that would have been a direct
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threat of a relationship through nato. >> host: the military in europe, vladimir putin, not dissimilar from donald trump but -- you don't like him. >> guest: as a person. >> host: talk about vladimir putin. >> guest: i wouldn't want to live there, not a great place to be, wouldn't last long. it is dangerous. in 2013 we were on the verge of getting involved in another middle eastern war namely syria. vladimir putin made us think again. i have been miffed. what the eu did was a huge
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mistake, mister cameron saying we should take the ukraine into the european union, take the ukraine into nato, effectively what we saw was an elected leader of the ukraine. and the one thing about vladimir putin -- >> what you think of your new government. and the prime minister, on the other side. and it is okay, only that remains, didn't mean that. she is our prime minister, may want to inspire appointments, david davis, a veteran in charge
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-- a guy that was a director of the public company, and the guy who will negotiate trade deals going to washington and speaking to america, pro-usa kind of thing. he has taken the job, said brexit, i just hope she holds faith with 17.5 million people who despite the whole world -- >> host: we will open it up to the audience. has anyone asked you to say a word in their district? >> guest: i shouldn't say that. in somebody else's politics directly is not the right thing to do. if there are lessons from brexit
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that are useful, that is it but beyond that. >> host: we are going to open up for questions. ashley and rosie will walk around with microphones. that doesn't look like ashley or rosie. i have to change the plan. they will come to you with the microphone. please tell us who you are and ask your question. right here. >> i am david smith of the guardian. you mentioned -- what did you think of the mood of the crowd chanting lock her up, why did you say if you were voting here you wouldn't vote for hillary clinton. >> my analysis of hillary clinton is a sense of entitlement. as if this hereditary principle,
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into washington. and the sense of entitlement, that has gone as people need to move on. the way they express themselves at this convention, completely different, there are no direct parallels to the way we do things in the united kingdom. lock her up is pretty strong. and walk through the process. i was expecting proper protests, really quite small and not very threatening at all. i have had much better protests than that. but interesting, some of the language on those protests, particularly on subjects around gay marriage etc. for which the united kingdom would be hate crimes.
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there are some helpful differences and i am here is a fascinated observer of how america does politics, and understand how brexit happen. the real story is little people, ordinary people has completely given up politics. don't believe anyone speaks for them or represent them. if you inspire people to vote. >> host: who else has a question? over here? >> i mark mc keg, a delegate from texas and i was wondering, nigel farage, the impact you had on the larger conservative party
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impacting the way it campaigned and governed. how would you say -- were able to steer the forces of the conservative party into the governing style of the electoral leadership? >> guest: 25 years ago i embarked on this because i didn't feel our country was headed in the right direction, the european project which my parents bought into being about trade, about being good neighbors, i could see the political dimension and we had a treaty 25 years ago, i have been doing this for 25 years and one of the big questions was, should i try to do this in the uk? or should i do it as part of the conservative party or work from within? that is one of the great debates
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and dilemmas i paid for all those years ago. i kept bumping into people, the mps, i tell them what i thought about membership in the european union and we agree -- why don't you say something in public? a little bit difficult. i might be selected. i have two views. nobody inside the existing political class would genuinely fight but secondly, if you are somebody with a sincerely held view, the big parties crush it out of you or stop you from getting into a position where you can exert influence so that is why i did it through uk. i have to do better. it has taken more years than i thought it would to get to this conclusion and i worried at
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times i might go down as patron saint of lost causes. it has taken a long time but ultimately it was the threat the uk was beginning to post to the conservative party. we say it is the labour party in a bigger way because of big issues crossing the left/right divide of politics. there is no way david cameron made the promise of a referendum that hadn't been for the threat of the uk, it is really vital we get boris johnson appealing to that conservative vote. we have figures on the left appealing to their vote, and the referendum again, if anybody got those people out to vote who hadn't voted in 20 years it was not the campaigning style so
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difficult though it has been, if you take over the establishment, it came along with a gin and tonic and said well done and say it has all been worth it. >> my next question without the phrase gin and tonic, over here, coming right behind you. >> tim stanley from the daily telegraph. you are here to talk about brexit and how it happened, and you have been to these conservative conferences before and you are not doing the democrat ones, i know you have said there is a direct comparison but what do you think you do have in common with the republican party, not necessarily trump but the conservative movement, what similarities do you see and what
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differences? >> those are quite big differences in attitudes towards gun policy and these are the big -- these are the big differences between this country and our country. similarities, i think there are, have been over the last decade or so elements of the activist base, who see what is happening in washington very much the same way people like me see what is happening in westminster, all about disconnect and i would like to think what we have proven is if you are prepared to fight hard for what you believe in, anything is possible and i think there is clearly some of
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the attitudes towards washington, i hear quite similar echoes of the same statement being made in brussels. >> i think there is one over here. >> you helped pull off something implausible at one point. when he started to rise in the republican party, did you say to yourself i could have seen that coming, is it shocking and amazing to you? >> i'm not in the least bit surprised, trump has taken on the establishment not just in washington but within his own party and i could see the way this guy -- the way he makes an
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argument causes a storm, when he is condemned by everybody, he goes a little further, and i have been watching this with great interest, i think i am not surprised you got the nomination at all and a bit tough to say who is going to win at this moment in time but just maybe he will reach out to those voters and there are big scylla minorities. i think everyone has been astonished at his rise, but it is not over yet. >> everyone at the same table. >> a small point, looking at the entire point and inspiring the point, you didn't mention boris
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johnson as foreign secretary in talks with john kerry. what did you think of his appointment? >> we have got a foreign secretary who is going to raise britain's profile all over the world and at the same time make people smile, that can't be a bad thing. i think it is very good. three hearings in position, they got the job, some cynically say if they mess it up, she is able to say it was never deliberate but take that view that there were three people there committed to this and i just hope that we have got the courage particularly with brussels to recognize the strong hand we have got and display it properly.
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i'm in no doubt that we will be out of the european union. what i question is exactly what deal we are going to get and ultimately at the next general election, will we have back our international territory? will we have back 200 miles of the north sea, or will we have shown ourselves to have been weak in the knees? i very much hope all those things happen. >> any other hand up? >> i have one here. the perception on the side of the pond seems odd when the brexit side won and people like yourself stepped down, boris johnson stepped down from running from the prime ministership and it seems -- you didn't want to clean up the situation afterwards and deal
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with the implications and i wanted you to address that? >> boris johnson is the secretary and the others are all over the country. as to my position, as i explained to the gentleman from texas what i have done from the outside, i tried to raise issues that other people didn't want to talk about and i would like to think we have changed the political agenda, changed the center of gravity in british politics. a group in the european politics to see this through, and i will as this process unfolds i will get up in the european parliament and make my friendly and constructive speeches that i always do which i have no doubt they are looking forward to enormously. i am doing my bit. as far as uk politics are
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concerned, this procedure, there is nothing i can do. i'm not the governing conservative administration, in terms of not going on, leaving political parties over the next several elections but my motivation, i wasn't one of those people who went to university into a research office and always wanted to be an elected politician, never thought about being an elected a politician. i got involved in this because i had one great cause that would gain my country back and that is what we have done. so i'm perfectly happy where i am. >> just to wrap up, very quick. >> thanks so much. you mentioned you could fault
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obama for coming in, donald trump did the same, you spoke out in support of brexit. do you condemn him in the same way and very briefly, mister trump's rise, people in the white nationalist movement quite excited by this and the party platform, moving far to the right, is there a concern of a dangerous trend, thank you. >> trump did not come to the uk on a big speaking tour, he had business interests in scotland and was asked a question and gains comment differently in terms of scale. look. i know since the referendum there are one or two people who
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have behaved very badly. one or two people behaving badly towards the before a referendum was even talked about. there are always in any society some elements who love virtually everybody that is few in number, absolutely nothing i have ever tried to do, don't want to inflame that or make it worse. i think what the european union project has done, by taking away people's democratic rights, get rid of their national identity into this new supernational award that no one recognizes, why do we have a neo-nazi party, they call themselves neo-nazi, they are proud of their neo-nazi roots, why are they the third ticket party? because actually if you take
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away from people there democratic rights they will move towards the extreme right and left in politics or even towards violence and direct actions. i genuinely believe getting a euro of democratic nationstates, not only will europe guaranteed doing that being at peace but that is the way we stop real extremism. >> to wrap up, neo-nazis, almost every other note is neo-nazi. i thank you for coming. i would point out behind us is the cuyahoga river, the dark days of pollution of america, once actually started on fire, there is a beer called burning river, let me know how it is. thank you very much. >> got to get out of the way for
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♪ ♪ >> now part 2. i want to introduce you, kevin madden is a long time republican strategist, activist, smart guy, not any reporter i know would call him that. he is a product of new york city, fan of the football team in ohio somewhere, he is working
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with john bain are and mitt romney's presidential campaign. you get to work on that. kevin is also the father of 3 sons and i can attest from the video that one of them has a helluva backswing. jamie is a political correspondent for columbia, south carolina, columbia state, she started at the rock hill harrell in south carolina, covered stories in south carolina politics from senate races, presidential primaries, covered the charleston shooting last year, the confederate flag controversy, she is one of the must follow political reporters in the key primary states who is expecting twins, both boys, and
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jim moral, veteran political correspondent for the charlotte observer has covered colorful characters from jesse helms to john edwards so anything that happens in cleveland, he has seen a lot of great battleground elections in north carolina for the presidency. we had your two, your three and i have three sons so we have 21/2 horses, two full basketball teams, we need one more for the football squad. we will talk about what nigel farage had to say and everything happening here, to start with what our guest had to say did it strike you as being illustrative of what we are seeing in america and does any of it point to what happens in the next four month? >> i was excited to hear him say because a lot of people overanalyze and try to turn it into a perfect template of what
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takes place in the united states and there are some parallels but it is not perfect. for sure this idea that a lot of elites in washington have one set of interests that are not consistent with the set of interest for a lot of folks out there struggling in the day today frustrations of the economy, also worries about national security, and the impact on their daily lives so what we have seen and trump has exploited this to his advantage in the republican primary, he has exploited this growing canyon between folks in washington and frustration people have around the country and that is one of the similarities i thought he pointed out in this electorate.
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>> we saw that in south carolina too, trump won the primary with 33% of the vote but if you were on the ground during the campaign, you go to a trump rally, they are filling arenas and other candidate started as more establishment, just didn't and he caught everyone by surprise, did a good job redefining who these candidates were and redefining himself as the guy who is of the people. i definitely think the surprise of brexit is similar to the surprise of trump's success especially in early primary states like south carolina. >> he was right on about the disconnect between the establishment and the people and brought a lot of new voters to the brexit campaign and the bernie sanders campaign and also a lot of nationalism in both campaigns. you talk about making america great again with mister trump,
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and making britain and ireland, there is still a lot of the same foreign threats people are responding to. >> there seems to be a great interest among republicans, not just some of our guests from the convention, but walked around the suites, and couldn't get onto it. and to the right, i want to talk about the convention and rinds priebus of the republican party did the autopsy and how they kept losing elections, they couldn't win minority votes, hispanic votes, women, young people, all the things growing in the country that they did more to get. i want to talk about how much of the appeal of trump through this disconnect group of people, has the new phobia in it, turning
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off the same groups they need to win. >> going back to the autopsy, two of the main findings in that, first, we have to find our party by what we are against rather than what we are for and if we were going to reach out to the fastest-growing part of the electorate we had to reach out to the fastest-growing part of the electorate beyond our base, if we are going to win national elections. one of the interesting parts of trump's appeal, so much of what he talks about is what he is against and what he should be afraid of and some of the anxieties about wage stagnation or immigration, there hasn't been enough what he would do differently other than build a wall. as a result of that, he has --
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we now have an electorate that we are going to see a percentage of white voters, probably drop, we will see the share of minority voters, asian americans as well and we nominated a candidate who has 70% unfavorable rating in that part of the electorate. that is why you see so much resistance in the republican party. ..
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>> how much have you seen in this convention that suggests the party of getting its message out and drawing up more hispanic voters, african american voters, women, people? >> publicly zero. >> the autopsy seems like a document of a long time ago. you know, as far as broadening and reaching out to groups like hispanics, we have seen mr. trump almost go out of his way to do the opposite. i don't think we have heard a lot about appealing to those groups on the podium so far.
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she said get that out of my face. not interested. if we want the white house, you have to stop this right now. i do get the sense that even a lot of this up here like a delicate who were running for those spots before anyone thought donald trump is actually going to have a chance to be the
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nominee. a lot of them are saying trump wasn't my first choice, but we've got to get it together now if you want to beat clinton. [inaudible] >> sure, yes. >> let me ask you this. i've been to a few conventions over the years. how does this stack up in terms of how choreographed, disciplined and organized it is? >> i would say these are always reflections of the candidate. in this sense, there is a level of disorientation right now because of that. yesterday, a campaign that is coming together on the fly. there are people on this campaign in senior roles right now for three weeks ago were not. that is different from
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they are usually not prone to a higher level of criticism. i think the same goes for children. to make a mistake that actually generates controversy takes almost enough for. i think that is -- all of the impact of the real positive impact during the convention is usually the next day, which is the headline, and the version of a speech that reflects very positively on a candidate week as the people who know him best are talking about it. so that has been the real missed opportunity i think with the controversy that we see over these two days.
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i think usually like a two or three hour controversy into a 48 hour one is how the campaign was funded. this is where you have to look at swing voters. people at home that are really strong don't care. the idea that plagiarism is an issue is more symptomatic of media bias in their minds than it is a something the candidate did wrong. for swing voters, oftentimes where this is a good risk as it becomes a reflection of the candidate themselves. when you have evidence of plagiarism in the campaign say absolutely not, there is no plagiarism. that makes people question how would you handle others where the facts are plainly denied. >> it was just unrealistic to say that did not happen. >> my campaign manager in 2012
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is a very good friend of mine who were not many. we just take our hit and move on. you can minimize these things by admitting that change and said the campaign and hold yourself accountable. you can reduce the level. the campaign has made it worse. social media has exacerbated. yesterday, the internet was full of names about what melania trump had said. those are just claims. >> i don't know about talking with delicate data for the folks are not going to be any big deal. even entwined itself, there were a bunch that i can remember. i don't know what an impact they had. i was talking to one of our delicate who talked the
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high-level operatives in the party and what he said was that he feels like this sort of mistake is definitely one that you can avoid and it is sending a signal to donors and sending signals to high-level operatives that things are not going well inside the campaign. i think i may have more of an impact just with building the party in building the apparatus. >> i doubt anyone is going to be angry at melania trump or that they have to go to a linker. if in fact there is disorganization and not goes forward, i know we haven't seen the candidate speaking. we are starting to get a feel for how we will come out of this and how republicans may shape up heading into obvious battleground states. >> well, we are still waiting to get the trump campaign in the battleground date of birth carolina. the candidate has been a couple times in the last month, but
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there is very little sign of an actual campaign in the state in terms of operatives, in terms of the people on the ground. the clinton campaign on the other hand has a lot of people already there. they are spending a lot of money on the air along with priorities u.s.a. a superpower. so far, nothing from the trump campaign. >> that's what we hear from a lot of dates. no trump campaign, no operative. no one to drive people to propose the following hillary clinton as the big grassroots organization to get a bigger. spending a lot of money. and yet, they are neck and neck at the polls. the national poll. what does that tell us? >> they are called battlegrounds for a reason because they are battle all the way until the end. the big worry i would have done the trump supporter and i want to be the win in november is that when you have a place like
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ohio and north carolina, florida, colorado, neck and neck in the last 25 days, the organization and resources in the form of money and volunteers if you have a really good organization and a lot of resources and a very big volunteer network, it is worth three points. if there are 44 and election day, that election makes a difference. on the map of 2012 and then you have a hard time. >> we saw that in 2008 when the obama campaign had a major effort in north carolina and each added 14,000 vote win. >> when we were doing calls, every single night we were going out saying what we believe were
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>> there's also this the version that was in the beach last night that we don't need data and
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analytics. a lot of those advances in campaign to help you identify people on a scale of one to 10, where they are on that scale or turning into a seven or an eight. back right now, the clinton campaign because they have a lot of sources, i think they know that they have an enthusiasm problem with hillary clinton. they have a plan to fix it. the trump campaign will get more than their base. have they made the case to do that. >> you just have to know the trump organization does not take we don't need analytics. you know they are doing all of that. he is going to speak of course tomorrow night this is the
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biggest moment so far for head. what does he need to do tomorrow night? >> i think he needs to convince delegates to go back to their state and be calm full-time advocate. they need to be enthusiastic at the south carolina delegation yesterday said you need to get in your car and drive to north carolina and campaign for republicans for us the party is in trouble. he said if you're not willing to do that, then hang it up. i think that is what it's going to be about to stop getting people energized, making them go home and work, work, work until november. >> what does he have to say to get them even more excited either about them or hillary clinton? >> conservative activists want to hear more from him on how he's going to uphold the party
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values. it? especially for people who support ted cruz, for example. they think that he is a principled conservative. they are very much honing in on that and i think they want to hear more evidence that he is going to be that candidate for them. >> would he think he needs to do tomorrow night? >> i think yes to do everything she said, but he also has to reach out into the middle. millions of viewers are watching them. he said he found that he can get the base of most of the based on his side. but he hasn't shown us that he can appeal to people who are still undecided. some of the suburbanite
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with the status quo in washington. oftentimes, he does a lot of me, me, me. but his strongest speeches on the campaign or when he has been talking to voters to back latecomers say this is about you. my candidacy is about your frustration with the status quo, your unhappiness with the state of the economy and your place in
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that and a lot of what you have been disappointed by the last eight years. if you can do that in a way that started it there's not appearing presidential and conservative pivot towards being a bit more of a professional candidate. he will have great strides. the question i think is every time we start to see the new trump, the old shrub shows up. >> we really liked his speech but then he raises the idea that doesn't last. >> people waiting around for the new trump are going to be disappointed. this is that. >> there is a subtext of this, which is based on talking to delegates, it is my guess that virtually no one here thinks donald trump by nature the fact they don't think he will win it
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all -- [inaudible] so a lot of people here are looking out for the road income of other senate candidates, house candidates or would-be presidential candidates. and it's really strange. he is meeting with the new hampshire delegation. everyone paid attention in new hampshire, iowa, south carolina. everyone is angling for 2020, aren't they? >> you know, south carolina in particular always gets visits from future potential white house visits. they always play coy and say my focus isn't on that race yet. i talked to one delegate yesterday and she raised a good point.
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she said if donald trump wins, he's probably going to want to be the nominee in 2020. but if he does that, we are getting some visits from people who we think might be interested . ..
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many of them six years, folks like mike huckabee and rubber chicken dinners in new hampshire and iowa and south carolina, he's got 100 percent name id and a national donor network that was all given to him in an instant so that makes him a formidable presence i think in the party going forward if we were looking at 2020 or down there. >> i was going to say one of the people she didn't name is her own governor nikki haley who would be probably on the agenda in 2020 and she's finishing her second term now. there's the prospect of a woman in the white house, she would be an attractive female candidate on the republican side so. >> paul ryan and them. >> they seem to have a defense, the republican
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definitely have a much deeper bench of potential residents than the democrats who have no bench, really and that's been one of the worries when you talk to democrats about the process on there and is tim kane is probably representative, he's the future of the democrats and i think, sac is on, not exactly a new exciting name and some of the being left out of the conversation like the castro brothers or others that some of the youths of the party that this is a missed opportunity to elevate their profile nationally we're done? okay. >> i'm your sign, i'm the sign. thank you again to our audience online, live streaming on our website and our audience here and thank
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you to our panel area jim, danny, evan . we will have a reception tomorrow evening from 4 to 7 and we are welcoming you back to thatand we will be at the democratic convention next week . join us there, thank you very much. >> thank you. [applause] ...
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>>. [inaudible question] [inaudible conversation] >> and a reminder that if you missed any of this conversational world politics you can watch at any time in the c-span video library, go to plenty of events going on today in cleveland on day three of the republican national convention, new jersey governor chris christie will join representative keith rothfuss and sean duffy at a luncheon honoring hispanic leaders,
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it's the body latino coalition, that will start at nine eastern on c-span. and the now official republican presidential candidate donald trump will join his vice presidential pick mike pence as he lives in cleveland today i have a speech tonight where he formally accept the vice president's nomination, that will be live at 2 pm eastern. also today's convention coverage will get underway at 7:30 eastern with the theme make america first again. some of the speakers will see tonight, former republican presidential hopefuls automobile and ted cruz as well as newt gingrich and donald trump's son eric, this starts at 7:30 eastern, we got a preview program starting at east, watch it on c-span or listen on the c-span radio app and get video on demand at >> your republican national convention is live in cleveland this week. watch every minute on c-span. listen live on the free c-span radio app. it's easy to download from the apple store or google
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>> good morning everybody. >>. [inaudible conversation] before we get rolling i want to take a moment and thank our underwriters were making our week in cleveland possible and theyare the american petroleum institute, maker's market , we will have bourbon ballot manhattan's in our custom drinks delegates delight here later today. just not at breakfast. so a few housekeeping notes before we get started, we are on twitter, hashtag the atlantic rnc and we got atlantic convention app which
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you can download, look for the atlantic convention's hq in the app store and thatwill give you every bit of information you could possibly want about what we are doing here this weekend also in philadelphia we got speaker session times , update and everything else. and now, our session this morning is about the battle for congress and before we do that, and move on to the substance i want to put the week in alittle bit of context as we get underway here in cleveland . we have seismic events unfolding around us. yesterday there was another police ambush, this one in baton rouge, that was on the heels of more death and racial divide across the country or it just last friday bloodied to an chaotic raising in turkey, one of its country's most strategic allies and before that a man turn a 19 ton truck into 11 and killed scores of people enjoying bastille day fireworks in southern france
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and i say this just to reveal the complexity of the world at a time when america is about to choose their next president and this is after a campaign season that has been i think it's fair to say like no other. this week donald trump and indiana governor mike pence will formally become the republican party ticket, presidential ticket and beyond that as we are here to talk about today the control of congress is up for grabs. he races across the country and we are going to ask the question will republicans maintain control congress at the house and senate? there are 34 senate seat races up this year, of those 24 are now controlled by the gop and in the house, republicans occupy 247 of the 435 seats in question so let's begin the conversation, we're going to invite oregon congressman gr w


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