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tell don't worry about where it appears just work on it. also this is something that we have a disproportionate amount of irish writers the best stories happen to those who can tell them. [laughter] still neck how long did it take you with your background? and what type of sources? >> mostly firsthand. and then to spend time in dublin from all the islands the notes from captivity captivity, from the newspaper and people werere
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dying in the streets.ldn't en they would kick the matter of their houses then waterford is a beautifulhe town. with though long list suspension bridge and we have a great scene rather want to start the revolutiont ot of the masses of water of wate turnout then we crossed the bridge and you feel that power which by the way is one of the prettiest places on earth if you have them there.
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because to this state you live and mostly horror tasmania you can trace your ancestry. that is a badge of honor. so then you, teetoo new york with the historical society of the new york city tenement museum. give them credit data to a wonderful job.se guys so then you see they are totally expose.ere's just getting go down by industrial staying stolen dash strength artillery. in this awful place for 23,000 people died most of
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that is online now but with virginia city montana is not quite a ghost town get there is a great library they weree' very helpful it comes to life as a tourism place in the historical society thank god for them they have thisarchi wonderful research we go to the places to understand the texture.e materi once i have the material i am fairly quick right turn but i do maya researchea because you find these great discoveries.m >> i will wrap this up and
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he won the booker prize it -- in tasmania so it comes full circle. [applause]ll bec i hope you'll become friends of the festival please vacate the room there is another panel. [inaudible conversations]
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if. >> happy slag date. i a whole plan have communicated how excited i admit this flag day. did anybody read what i wrote in today's paper? i wrote the op-ed in the lawsuit journal about flag day. i am excited about that but
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it is important to me to tie into the theme of the book and not talking about the book yet by introducing myself. actually if you don't know saugerties in the city first of all, thank you for wrapping at your dinner i appreciate that. [laughter]tough golden corral has several suits and though it is very tough to pull yourself away i have then on c-span before it is okay. they get my humor. but this is a isocrates in the city than the fed normally i interview someone
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if you're not familiar they go to the web site we have tons of video of mewith ton interviewing extraordinary approval -- people. take cab it, now, well right here on the stage. tourney fields. e jack carter the comedy team burn san shriver george plimpton the injures sisters the smothers brothers. flip wilson. at bin it a rand castilloav very briefly was a cameo. [laughter] wild bill hitchcock i
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interviewed them all and also charles darwin and. [laughter] in lafayette. he was told it was tough we have had the eclectic smorgasbord of guests socrates in the city gets its name and i am greek so i can pretend i you familiar with greek philosophy and then he blew his brains out he said the head examined life is not worth living. you are very late please take your seat if you are late i will call you about if you are my friend. we realized in new york city people will avoid the big subjects are the important
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things like a god or whatever makes you squirm what is the nature of reality that kind of questions that people typically don't get into so life-and-death god and other small topics are reading is fair game that pretty much means we have all kinds of different gases on differentof e subjects i encourage you to go to the web site last year we did the events because our events are in oxford and we had a wonderful time over the years we would just have a speech at the podium likediume this i think six years ago we decided that would be the guest every six years i can
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now with one book per year sova memo mimas book in 2010 i was the speaker and i introduced myself it messes is with your had in that mess with my head but i decided that to do that this time but six years later i come up with another book that i thought this meets the requirement of the big question that we should always be thinking about we really stunned number the answer is this something toal think about so we thought it would be appropriate my publisher earl has many but they picked the date as the release date and i thought did they know it is like day
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because i write about it in the book and it is very important to me and theyey didn't they just happened to pick june 14 as the date should come now.book s i would not exactly call that a miracle but it is a very good clinton did so i am thrilled it is that the center of what happens in the book. i will introduce myself to the mention that? to do that would be a slap in the face to everybody in the room because you already know me. a lot of you are here but i am stunned at how many people are here from different parts of the country if you're not from new york grazier hand. >> unbelievable. look at them. is incredible and the number
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of friends i haven't seen in many years i am so thrilled to see my friends thank you for coming in and sharing this important to invent some of the book that i have just written his called it if you can keep it i will talk about that than we will open 2qn day and we will see what happens but there is so much and want to say on the subject of the books so let me start with the title if you can keep this and people get the reference others did not graduate high school. just kidding. i wouldn't have gotten
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myself but once you know, something you feel everybody should know that. 1787 benjamin franklin was withe exiting the constitutional convention independence hall in philadelphia. part of the background is i did not notice i consider i godhead decent education and school and a parochial school here in queens with a good university but they never really seemed to communicate what i will share with you tonight forms the background when i wrote the book gives you a burning passion to communicate things right going so well for the united states of america gentleman the miraculously coming into the exe
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existence we ought not to have succeeded it doesn't make much sense washington could succeed the battle of long island. h he has paper. but if you look at those two came together to create this nation. but it doesn't make much rational sense. in it is remarkable they are here.
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so rather miraculously we win the war and as hostilities cease we have a weak federal government that was the whole point. [applause] the teapartier is here. i am getting applause that disappoint. however then you have no government. , the founders and favors to say we have to go back to the drawing board in the creation of the constitution that is dracula's. so the point to go to the
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founders themselves that trying to find a compromise and that was not working so imagine and the lives were probably thinking what will they do in their? with a limited monarchy? but that is normal. what is the big deal? see you have these people in the room doing something but what will happen? will they create a limited monarchy? benjamin franklin for those
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people to pray with benjamin franklin to say that god came to the aid in the formation of this country why would we doubt that he would help us now? thereat the impasse. and then they'd actually use the word miraculously there really was astounding and then to what data the building in was in philadelphia 60 years. and dead tuesday dr. franklin what have you
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given as? a monarchy or a republic? he says a republic, madden, if you can keep it. [applause] that is where this comesthat from. but one of these parts of history because james mccann read the 3434becaus year-old happened toold ha overhear this the only reason we know the existence. cuf and now we know it into keeping a. that what they created was
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as a proud greek they invented democracy. but the point is the greek cities states were small. with 13 colonies and a million people. but the founders and the flavors and rationally mission not be possible.history and everyone of us took them for granted.
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i really thought that was to work it requires the people so that natural state of affairs that is not normal. so basically franklin didn't say this lightly so now it is up to you recreated some david is the allied air with his up to the people to continue and if they don't it goes away. sova worked in the continued
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and for a the last 40 years we had forgotten how important it is for us to keep it in the play's three are in trouble to sale looks very nice but it is dead. beverly fake fat is rarely are. and then you have to know their stories so that dash t narrative and then two yearsri
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to teach about those those are bad things we need to a knowledge and to say that washington was a slave owner that if you don't ever celebrated you are and then to struggle with this stuff to be patriotic something goes wrong. if you don't boast about your house and will fall down and crush you.fundamen to be proud of your familyhu and your village and your nation we have all been schooled we know where nationalism goes wrong.
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tsa with that can go wrong we have to understand not having had a proper help the software garner can also go wrong and i believe that is where we are. we're at a place where mostand americans and i just turned 32. [laughter] call me a liar.ody my pager y people did not get this in school but it never hit me and tell i was in this room. i dedicated the book to eyes
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i wanted him to sue me some if you are familiar with the book. and he spoke about that from here and much of what he said is from england. says basic stuff. about? but is what he calls the gold in trying goal of freedom. -- trying goal of freedom.anglef . . with their virtue that requires straight with dash and requires freedom. freedom requires virtue. freedom requires virtue they know.
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is certainly will never see this on tv. talk about virtue what is that? what does this mean that i thought it is basic freedom which is self-government day govern themselves. that means you have to govern yourself. every person has to govern himself you don't need a lot of cops that they pretty much cover themselves most of the time i'm not afraid to be caught or thrown in the dungeons because i believe it is wrong.
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so if i can the large bay are virtuous and self-government becomes possible bidders to dimbleby unless they have people who will govern themselves freedom requires virtue of some kind. they all grow to about it. this is not everyone is a person that is virtuous way and not everyongrandmaeveryone that is a person of faith and however the founders knew practically speaking when they solve the community that is serious aboutn its faith they tended to be self-governing or. of those places the crime would drop and it's an extraordinary things -open-brace robust expression, you have people
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generally speaking who are generally speaking virtuous and able to govern themselves. faith in turn requires freedom. what does that mean? it cannot be forced to. before someone believes something or goes to a certain church you know before they do it voluntarily is just a game. you have many countries in europe they say this is the official church you have to go to that. you have to have freedom for faith to forage otherwise itl isn't any kind.ic people say i'm going to go to
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this church because i choose to, not because the government forces me to. or i go to no church because i choose not to. so we are not forcing anyone to go to any particular church. it is utterly free. the founders understood.es they choose what they want to worship him how they want to worship and where. it doesn't work. they wanted a robust faith and this form of government won't work unless by and large there are people of faith. but they must be utterly free. in fact they had been practicing religious liberty for much of the 18th century. it's not universal but basically america got this kind of stuff.
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so it's for 230 plus years and i've never really thought about this. so i was deeply embarrassed until i realized those other people haven't heard about this and then i felt really good about myself. why don't i know about this. my daughter is no longer a seven, get that out of your mouth, stop it. [laughter] i found a paper model of the house and it appealed to me that moment surprised where his brother makes each week andot
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something about it appeals to him so i thought i would b it wa nice thing to do. then we are building this little house and i realize you know what, the palm that ryan and was at. sneered at. they want poems that mean nothing so i started reading it and most of you know little snippets. l listen my children and you shall hear on the 18th of april and 75 hardly a man is now a live. you remember that famous day and year. i realized i hadn't really gotten past that much. it was so beautiful and moving
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that i was absolutely stunned by the beauty of the palm and i thought why are people sneered at this and it kind of gets into where we've been in the culture. why don't we see if we can memorize this. they were able to memorize it slightly more quickly than her father but we've memorized it together. and as we were memorizing it, i thought to myself, i've never felt so i'm feeling right now. there's a line in the poem and a chapter in the book that says
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there was one asleep in his bed at the bridge was e first toould call. this could be pierced by a british musket ball and die and it just pierces me to read this because i thought it's not going to do much but it means something to you. >> you certainly don't hear about this in the ivy league that they would say anything patriotic and it's a sad thing but as you get older you start realizing how sad is that they've turned their backs on faith and patriotism.
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it reminded me of doing the same thing with my father when i was young because they are not afraid of patriotism. and every march 25 at the church we would celebrate greek independence day. we will get up early and si sat the couch and help you. we would do that and memorize. the one i remember is about this old patriot who wants to die and as my father was reading the lines he would get choked up.
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you read something that gets to you in when you get older you unders revise sacrifice. in the greek culture we don't want to talk about the exceptionalism and everything else. they are better than everybody. i was raised in a home where we were proud of our greek herita heritage. my cousin john here, my father and my uncle worked his schriock americans that came to this country to the 50s and they
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knew this was a great country. do you understand what we have here, we better be grateful for what we have. is america perfect, of course not if you appreciate what we have, you've got to put everything in context. you don't want to be a chest beating fool but do not appreciate what we have. i bet you that many of them memorize paul revere's ride and the village blacksmith and it was the thing that was done because in order to be a people
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it's the songs that make you a people otherwise you break down into red states, blue states. it's that kind of history and a story and every one of liberal, conservative, we understood this kind of thing. you were forced to learn this stuff and learn a little bit about the history. people say we don't want to start telling you about american culture because they were from another country. we don't want to do that so people came to this country and they were buying into something.
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we are defined by an idea. the only country in the world created and defined by an idea and therefore, in order to keep the republic as franklin enjoined us to do, we must know those ideas and understand those ideas and buy into them and live them out, otherwise america ceases to exist because it is an idea. i was not taught these ideas. these ideas are not popular on tv. what has happened are we becoming a name only, are we becoming america and not america.ic if it's an idea it seems to me
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it s that is what happens. american exceptionalism doesn't mean that we are inherently better, god forbid. i'm a christian and i know thatg everyone has an equal amount of sin and everything we have is a gift from god. i don't think that we are better than other people by where we live for our ethnic background. we are better than the french, i will leave it at that. [laughter] but we are not better than anybody. it's not that america is better. it refers to these ideas which are basically a gift from god to. when you are given an incredibly valuable gift you have to knowre
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the value of it and not a expensive laptop and use it as a frisbee. we don't know what it is and how it works. it's not easy for us to keep the republic. it's not an easy thing. try to sprinkle a little of that on iraq and afghanistan and see how that turns out. the people haven't been prepared over decades and decades to know how to use it. we were prepared because we had centuries of british law going back to the magna carta. we understood the ideas of virtue. we were prepared in a way that was extraordinary.prepared in the most extraordinary thing of all when i read about george whitfield i was utterly
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astounded because george whitfield came to the country and there's a chapter on hand in the book he was one of the august figures in the book a 21-year-old cross eyed evangelist he was a phenomenon. he preached four times a day. he came out the imitation of john and charles wesley. he was a preaching maniac and what was he preaching was the preaching everybody come to thei church, no.
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he was sent saying to people you have to worship. he was singing the most basic gospel message about jesus and imagine they are teaching morality and what a jerk you are and now this man comes and tells you yes you are a coal miner or a fishwife, you are a loser, failure, and god loves you and has a plan for your life and you are no different and the duchess or the duke or the king. it was a message of egalitarianism from the gospels. the point is that he's preaching a message of egalitarianism people are buying into. this hierarchy was still coming when pretty much began to create
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an american character in a way now i'm overstating it for time but over the course of decades, he preached up and down the colony so much that by the time it was over, 80% of the people in the the colonies had hurt hi. in person. try to imagine how much he preached and when he preached, thousands would come to hear hi. over and over and by the time he was done he was the patron saint of america. he was the only celebrity known from maine to georgia. everybody knew whitfield and bought into his thinking. he also basically said if you are valuable in gods eyes no one can rule over you. so then you say to the tyrant,
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be gone. you don't have to submit to this kind of thing. a he loves you as much as king george. he didn't put it that way that these are radical ideas that come out of the gospel.nd you have many people that are serious about their faith and it breaks out and the people becam more virtuous. this is why benjamin franklin who isn't an orthodox christian love george whitfield because wherever he goes, the people become virtuous.r, he suddenly the people are uniquely prepared to govern themselves.
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they have a better chance ofav keeping it than anyone in the history of the world. so without whitfield, we wouldn't exist. but the point is that seems to t be the case. so, when i understood all this i thought to myself it's kind of scandalous that we don't know all this and we don't know how fragile our government is our way of life and culture and everything we have. if we don't get serious about keeping it, whatever that means, it is game over and i do think it is as serious as we face in the revolution or the civil war. if we are facing johnny you get that crisis and see it in front of your eyes.
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it's termites slightly howling from the outside so nobody seess the threat but if we become a name only and a hollow shell of america where americans used to be, we would cease to haveill cv self-government. in other words, it's not for democrats or republicans or liberals or conservatives.at we we sense that things are not going well. self government and liberty are being challenged in a host of ways whether it is clamoring for a strong leader we know that that can go wrong and it comes with problems or whether it is clamoring for the judiciary that legislate from the bench in a way that is unconstitutional the point is what we have is fragile and you can screw it up almost
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any way you like it because it is so fragile so we are at an ex essential crisis. when he wrote his column, he wrote it because it was 1860 and he knew america was facing anw existential crisis and he wanted america to wake up and see that they had to rise to the occasion so he wrote this column. these are the things that cane a galvanize us so we can see where we are and what we need to do. to some small extent, i hope my book fulfills that kind of role. i wrote it hoping we could get conversation started on that subject because i do believe that there is a huge threat. you won't notice it, everything could look the same.
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they aren't going to govern our mansions at least not yet. it's something we have to take seriously. another person i won't name. ma. he is to buy into them for 200 plus years we are pretty much ignorant of them. we have to dare to be patriotic and teach our children what we stand for so i hope those books will be sent soon and i can geto on my radio program and say have you read it and i hope thatve yu
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everyone here -- people ask me what can i do come you can contact your congressman and ask them if he got th you got the bd read it. something can be done to. god forbid i not permitted to lose hope. our job is what we can do to be helpful and the rest is in god's hands. that concludes this portion of the evening. thank you very much. [applause] i would love now if you don't mind my daughter and i prepared a duet.
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i would love to have a few minutes for your questions as we always do in the city to put your question in the form of a question. i would love to know if you have any questions to speak loudly.u' saudi raises a hand you can ask me anything and i will tell you up front i prefer true and false questions. somebody has their hand up right here. i'm sorry ti am sorry to say upt please be brief because i'mo hoping we can get a lot of questions. there will be fun. welcome to socrates in the city.
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i want to ask the significance of lady liberty on your cover any event we begin with the pledge of allegiance. not going to happen. you are so sweet i don't mind giving that. don't do the salute. what a great idea.
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i pledge allegiance to the united states of america and to the republic for which it standb one nation, under god, indivisible with liberty andde justice for all. any kind of patriotism even makes me uncomfortable.rt. when i go around the country i got tears in my eyes and thought why can't we do this, are we ashamed of our country? your question was about my book.
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>> what does lady liberty mean blacks >> we were looking for graphics attached to it. [laughter] basically one thing i didn't say in my speech just now which is at the heart of the book as well is the reason that it's okay to think about american exceptionalism and be extremely proud of the country is because from the beginning, this nation was always the nation for others to. god says that you are blessed to be a blessing so loud that you can keep it on to your selves and say we are the chosen people, isn't that great? if you are chosen it is an
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awesome burden and in some ways he called this nation be almost chosen people. if there's something special about this because we have beeny used to touch others around the world. we don't ask questions. we don't say it's used the money first. you've got to understand that. we've shed the blood on the field why? those things enter into it. if you understand american lives had been given for freedom around the world. we have done the right thing.or
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if you can't admit that you are so cynical that the simple fact that we've done that and we haven't simply acted in our self-interest. we have said as we go, the world goes. our boys died in the non. the point is we are not just an island that wants to exist here, that's never been the american way and that kind of attitude is fundamentally un-american. we've said we are here for others. so it is this example and actually i write about this in the epilogue of the book at thea same moment i think that might have been i'm pretty sure it was late 2001 so i it must have been two months after the attack we
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were on a speed ferry going tose new jersey and we would go to the highlands in new jersey to visit my in-laws. on the upper deck it's an amazing thing i look over and we were close to the statue of liberty and i got choked up. .. i got choked up because i'm thinking of 9/11 and because of the fact that look at this country. in other words we were attacked by evil men who wanted to do us harm. but we still manage t managed ta posture of welcoming. one of the first things we would worry about is that muslims would be attacked. you kick the butt of some people
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that you think are affiliated with those who did this. don't do that. that's not the american way. we've always struggled with th that. you can take up too far and to d release the lobby like angela merkel. that is pure guilt for what happened years ago. they try to repeat themselves and say let's come on a. but the point is we have to think rationally inform the policies rationally but we all know that we are a nation of immigrants and we know that we have to have a posture that says welcome into the statute to be symbolizes that. and it is particularly touching to me because my parents passed the statute in a ship in the 50s. i remember asking my mother when we took her to germany a year ago i asked her about that and she said it was 5 a.m. and they
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were woken up and they ran up and there it was. she said it was very emotional. now, why is that emotional for people coming if they know. they know america will give them a fair shake an opportunity to work hard and send their kids to college. that is at the heart of the people so thanks for the question. that is a different kind of exceptionalism. there's all kinds but have heard about freedom and god loves them and who got economic freedom and introduced why. we said.
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we don't want to keep these things for ourselves. the question is you can keep it and was a pointed statement. i don't think it's lost but i think we are losing it. this is my best shot to wake us up to what we have and start a movement have some kind that we would take it seriously. it's a symptom of this that we the people have to be the people and love our country and
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understand. great question. thank you. we have another. >> before i leave, the last word was delivered by america's greatest speechwriter who preceded the president and his ultimate address. if you are ever at an after dinner speaker you are due at least a 50% refund of this club has very much to do with the statue of liberty coming to america and so on and so forth so we have the club to thank for that as well. >> i loved your intent to be bipartisan in getting the book out. i should tell you i am a ronald
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reagan democrat and our parties increasingly have radically different worldviews and many people remember god shouted down in the 2012 election and there are people that would watch this on c-span that would actually present the fact recited the pledge of allegiance. what are your thoughts on bridging that divide? >> that is another one of the fundamental reasons i wrote the book. there are people -- there will always be ideologues on both sides. there are people for whom being reasonable is not acceptable. they have a take no prisoners attitude. i don't mean ideologically in the middle, they can be in the left or the right they are open
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to reason that basically yes when i watch mr. smith goes to washington, my heart is touched. i feel the love for my country. we have to be rational and reach out to people. people have read this book who are secular liberals and that proves to me i wanted to write this book for everybody. this is for reasonable people. there will always be those people i think we have to understand that to argue with people on those fringes is to cast pearls. we ought not do it, just let them do what they want. i would submit to you there are plenty of americans across the political spectrum who would say yes there is something here and a beautiful about teaching the great stories of these heroes.
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there've been people that have sacrificed their lives so that we can have what we have and we need to understand that not teaching that has harmed us. we are not going to go back to 1920 that we have to really understand that we have failed. i'm convinced that theri am cone people as i say most people who read books in this country, they get us. it's something that must be taken seriously so thank you. could you be more specific about what things you see as threats
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to america and why we are losing that [inaudible] >> i think that there are a number of problems. here's the thing we don't talk about virtue anymore. when i was reading particularly some of the stuff in the colonial era, the things they said and the language they used it was remarkable. they talked about honor and duty. we don't talk about that kind of stuff anymore. that is a very odd development. we have to ask ourselves what
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has happened and why do we think it's okay to let that stuff evaporated. what will happen exactly if you're not teaching virtue in schools. if you think about it when i say to somebody racism is bad, you will hear that. there are certain things you will hear we have to have discussions on what we believe. what's happened is the classic case. i would say why do i care, what difference does it make? if people are infinitely malleable and everyone in the world that has value and off to
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pass dignity and so forth and so on if you believe that then you try to create a society where people respect people that other planes of view that we have to get into that conversation and where we are is the politically correct soundbite. it's to have some of these conversations to introduce people who think about them more deeply we really don't do that anymore. i think that we have to be able to talk about these things that wbutwe have been afraid to. i think that you see examples in the culture in terms of morality there are real problems. there's all kind of things where you can say i need to do what i need to do to get ahead.
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what about teaching kids that is wrong. that's okay we don't get into that. when you get your right and wrong we need to have those conversations if we are afraid to because we are afraid we will offend someone and that is what concerns me is that we have to have these conversations about what am i to believe? if my religion teaches me sex outside marriage is wrong or the homosexual lifestyle is not one that i want to follow, hell do i exist in a coach or like this? in america we say you can ask us how you want. we have to respect each other but there are other places in the world would they say if you disagree with somebody, you can treat them as subhuman. that is what radical islam does and it strikes me as odd that we don't even have a language to
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talk about. do you know how they treat, they throw them off tall buildings and kill them. we need to have these conversations about what we believe as americans and i think that we have completely avoided it. the government steps in basically and will grow. you have strange things happening like roe v. wade even if you agree with the decision the way the courts got there is bizarre. how do you find in the constitution dot righ that righo same-sex marriage or abortion that even legal scholars say feels like judicial activism and it's the job of the people in the state of the.
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you see it with a stronger executive under bush and obama. it's the people that have to say no that's not the way we do things here. we won't allow people to rule over us. i don't think there's any doubt and i don't want to go on any longer but i see all kinds of examples. i'm sure that it's a great question and i don't have more than that. thank you for what you talk to us tonight.
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kind of wish that he were running for president. [applause] >> here's my question. if freedom requires virtue and virtue requires god, what are we going to do? it is politically incorrect to talk about god. our children need to have a moral compass. >> when people say it's politically correct, here's my question. so what. if somebody says to you that will offend some people, the response would be okay, so what.
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i think one of the most wonderful things about american culture is the desire to please everyone but it can go too far and become a small. i think it has become a flaw for us. the idea that we are changing policy is such an -- it's one of these things that we are bending over backwards for and it's gotten to the point that we say something is out of order we really need to reassert ourselves and need to talk about god and faith and virtue. if people are going to do that in the broadway they will do that in the wrong way. i hope i did it in that right away and we all have the ability to give it in a civil way and i talk about this because i think
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that americans have to rise up and begin doing this. we are all responsible for having these conversations. we all need to say so what. i'm not racist, let's move on. do you even know what you're talking about? we have given so much power to the people on university campuses. the academic leaders are so cowardly that they cannot stand up to these tiny maniacs. it's an extraordinary thing but it shows you if you don't have a robust sense of right and wrong, you're going to back down when people scream and most americans are at a point you see them say
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we've had enough. we have real problems. let's talk turkey and stop being so easily offended. the first thing we can do is say tough luck. i don't mean to offend anybody. if all that you were going to be is so thin skinneso thin-skinnee conversation, that your choice. in the promotion of virtue my wife and i -- some argue that you are abandoning the schools where the majority of the citizens will be educated. >> let me touch on the specifics of regardless where our children go to school and engage in the system.
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>> i am not going to send my daughter to a school so i can make a political statement while her brain is ruined. first we have to take care of our own. if sending kids to this school were that, you have to do that first but you're right to the extent that we can be voices in the public square i agree the situation has gotten out of hand and it's part of why we are here in this conversation why i wrote the book because the teachers unions and so forth, they are not beholden to the free market. they are in there and say tough luck. and you can hear over and over again they are teaching things that have no business getting into. it's the most basic idea of freedom. i can raise my kids the way i want to raise my kids. i don't have time to teach them
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so we are going to create a school and pay taxes so that somebody else can do what i want them to do. they are going to be paid and we are going to do what we want to do. they're fundamentally undemocratic. it doesn't make sense. the idea that we have public schools teaching kids things that are not what we would want them to be taught is just fundamentally crazy. that's why you have to have school choice. that's one thing i'm happy to say they are talking about school choice because the idea that i have to send my kids to get indoctrinated, that is just fundamentally un-american. my mother left communist germany when she was 17-years-old by herself. she was having communist garbage poured down her throat and she
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said i could take it. i have to get out of there because it was indoctrination. she chose not just to go to another school but to leave east germany. we have to understand if somebody says to me i had my kids in a public school and they said tomorrow we are going to teach third-graders about how they can choose their own sexuality, some parents needs to contact them and say here is what we are going to do. we are going to keep our kids home until the maniacs stop teaching things we don't want them to teach. you have to be willing to keep your kid home. the montgomery bus boycott for a year african americans didn't like the buses because they say that's wrong. if some people think that they

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