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that the panel has been talking about occurring in a christian country. so my question to you is, do you agree that the history of racism in the united states, which you have documented represents a failure of the ethics of christianity? >> yes, i agree. [laughter] [applause].pplause] this is the last question. >> thank you to doctor kinde and professor watkins. i just retired after 25 years as a librarian in prince george's county in the public library. most of the time i worked in district heights. it was my privilege to work there, district, district heights, temple hills, glenarden and places like that.ts and
professor watkins, i want want to add one thing to what you yo said about the guy in the she can guide the suit. there are a lot of women who are out there and are doing that kind of thing too. from the library is often a lot of predominantly women there but we also work with sororities, church groups, and you know men but also the women there with you ministries and all sorts of things are doing a lot too. i also want to say that there are two -- one place they come together is the annapolis senior center where most of the people seem to have gone beyond a lot of stuff. thank you.ha >> thank you. [applause]. >> i always acknowledge all the people i work with and i should've clear my language, but i need to praise all the women my life or i would never be here. i. i can even do my own anything
like, so thank you for that, and i will give it to. i would not be here. >> amen. first of all, unfortunately that will conclude the panel. we just want to say, i know. of course we are time constraints but i definitely wish to thank the panelist doctor kinde, professor watkins, we deftly want to thank all of you for coming out and taking the time.bo please support, read theirry books, i've read both of them, they're excellent. we know you have a question and we have opportunity, we will allow you to answer that question just not right now. thank you very much.ch. [applause]. [inaudible]
[inaudible] >> this weekend cities tour along with our comcast cable partners will explore the history and literary life. we'll talk with tj gaffney and learned the role of railroads play. >> the movement, particularly particularly shipping containers moving over from places like china, indonesia and elsewhere. railroads are very much a part of that route. so when you go to long beach california where there are large shipping facilities, the railroads are right there alongside the container ships and they are the ones that help get it to the next row. >> my, former executive artery, list talks about the rich history and its importance to michigan's economy of the state of economy of the city. >> in the 1990s is a thriving economy not just statewide but
locally we have done belief pretty well. things about the year 2000 and into thousand come if you go by household income michigan is one of the 15 wealthiest states. by 2008 were one of the 15 poor states. >> on american history tv will visit the train depot word thomas edison worked as a young boy and make a stop at the thomas edison depot museum. also see the museum's manager, david days are. >> we have. >> we every creation of the chemical laboratory and printing equipment where he was the first person that we know of to printed newspaper on a moving train. he had access to the latest news to the telegraph agents at the trade offices. he would get that news hot off the presses. >> will then toward the lighthouse, the first in the state of michigan. this weekend, watch c-span city tour to port huron. saturday at noon eastern on book
tv. sunday afternoon at 2:00 p.m. on american history tv on c-span three. working with our cable affiliates and visiting cities across the country. >> sunday night on q&a, civil war historian and virginia tech professor emeritus, james robertson discusses his book, "after the civil war". those who changed america. >> stata leaves this were very deep and it went as far back in generations and i think one has to keep that in mind. i'm not belittling slavery. slavery. slavery is without question the major causes of war but you can explain the action of good, decent men like robert ely and the stonewall jackson, they fight because virginia needs met. now that they supported the confederate calls. neither
wanted. >> sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. >> in her book, white rage them or university professor carolyn anderson argues that the racial divide in america is fueled by white resentment over progress by african-americans. she discussed her book at the ferguson missouri public library. this this is just over one hour. >> i think will get started. hello and welcome to our event with carol anderson. i am shane and host for left bank books. i'd like to think or cosponsor for the evening, the ferguson public library. their work and activism is incredible and inspiring. they are a. they are a wonderful partner too have her such an event like this. left bank books host over 300
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intellectual firm that carol anderson does in this book. there's a handful of of writers whose work i consider indispensable. " professor anderson is high on that list. and the editor of white rage also says that this is one of the most important books that he has worked on. carol anderson is professor of african-american studies atwe emory university. she is the author of many books including bourgeois radicals, the naacp, the struggle for941 o colonial liberation, 1941 - 1960, and numerous articles. anderson's opinion article from the washington post will appear in the fire this time, new generation speaks about rage. edited by national book award winner which comes out by national book award winner which comes out in august and i highly recommend that because well. that article shaped and helped define this book and the movement. white rage rage is inspiring, mending, and necessary. from the epilogue imagine it is
time to defuse the power of white rage. it is time to finally, truly move into the future. tonight, carol will be discussing "white rage" the unspoken truth of our racial divide, answering our questions and signing copies of her book. please please tell me welcome carol anderson.. [applause]. >> and thank you. thank you for coming out on out, what is this? i really, truly appreciated. i appreciate my ferguson public library has done and is for this community. thank you. and i appreciate left bank books as well. thank you. i wanted to spend some time
talking about how i got to wait rage, white white rages, and then to move into several excerpts from the book and then open it up for q&a. when i first began to wrestle with the concept of white rage, it wasn't ferguson. it was in fact in february 1999. on when a black man in new york city stepped out on his doorstep after a long hard days work to go get something to eat, and he was greeted with 41 bullets. nineteen of which hit him.alo ae his name -- he was gunned down d by the nypd. he was on armed, that was bad enough, but as we know from
these killings, it is the response that begins to tell you what is happening in society, and so i am sitting there and i am listening to mayor rudy giuliani in an interview with ted koppel on "nightline", and ted koppel is talking about the nypd, the killing, he's talking about 41 bullets, he's talking about stop and frisk, he's talking about police brutality, and rudy giuliani says, i have the most restrained and best behaved please force you can imagine. okay yeah i had one of those scooby doo moments. why?d ga and then he began to talk about how his policies were working
that what he has put in place in new york city has brought down crime, it new york city is a safer place because of his policy and he has flow charts, graphs, and, and bars, everything, and what you don't hear is that an on armed black man stepped onto his porch and was gunned down. i'm sitting there going,ly something is fundamentally wrong. structurally wrong. i did not know what to call it, i did not know what to label it. but i knew something was going on, and i continued as a professor and as a professor and began working and thinking and working and thinking, and then inthe tele august 2014, at my television is and i am watching, i see ferguson in flames. and then i hear the pundit
talking.were tal and what they were talking about was black rage. wire black people burning up where they live, what is wrong with black people? how could they burn up where they live? well you know there's somethinge black people.y are th and why they burning up, and it didn't matter what ideological strike, it was all centered, the baseline, baseline, the starting point was black rage.that's and i found myself in this moment shaking my head, you know that moment when you shaking your head something's going on and you don't even realize and you're in your saying no, that's not right, that's not right and that's when it hit me, and i said no what were really seen his white rage.e have bee what we are really seen is that we have been so focused in on he the planes that we have missed the kindling. we have missed
what has stoked this fire. we have missed for instance the disenchantment of the black community in ferguson.ough all that through all kinds ofrole shenanigans and rigmarole have created where, in the 2013 municipal election the population out of 67% of ferguson's population,% of ferguson's population, you had a 6% black voter turnout. you gotta work really hard to make that happen. we missed in ferguson, schools that have been on probation for 15 years. fifteen years, where estate has an accounting system of basically an accreditation of 140 points, and ferguson public schools were getting ten points per year. and we have allow that to happen for 15 years, we have
allowed an entire generation of students to go through from kindergarten to graduation with the school system that we notice work. kindling. we have a police force that did not see that its role was to protect and serve but saw african-americans as a revenue-generating source. that could provide 25% of the city's budget. kindling. and what all of this kindling does, and as a starter with with wrestling with right wage, i began to understand the lower really looking at are the are sr policies, as a nation we are so drawn to the spectacular, we're so drawn to what we can see thah we miss the tectonic plates that are actually moving. white rage moves subtly, almost
imperceptibly, corrosive lee through the courts,govern legislatures, government bureaucracies, through the white house, through congress and it wreaks havoc subtly. and perceptively so that it is hard to discern what is the source of what you're seeing and so i set out to make white rage visible, because the first thing you have to do is be able to see this thing, the trigger for white rage is black advancement. it is not the near presence ofbl black people that is the catalyst for white rage, but buh it is a blackness with ambition. blackness with drive with
purpose, with aspirations. with demands for full and equal citizenship. is blac it is blackness that refuses to accept subjugation, blackness that refuses to give up. and through a formidable array of policy assaults and legal maneuvering, white rage consistently punishes black resilience and black resolved. how else can we reasonably explain why government after government fought so hard to keep black children from getting an education? we saw it after the civil war, we sought all the way through the brown decision, we see it now why is it so difficult to?
educate black children? why do we have this even when at least since 1957, when the u.s. said we haven't national security crisis, we must educate as many of our citizens as we can to be able to effectively wage the cold war but brown was not going to get implemented. so even in the face of a national security crisis, even in the face of always say this is what our nation needs, white rage says, i don't think so. why? what this nation design a war on drugs, that incarcerate most
those who sell and do drugs the least. why? and why particularly after the triumphs and the successes off the civil rights movement with the civil rights act of 1964 and four and the voting rights act of 1965, why would we incarcerate communities? why would we overwhelm state dei budgets? why would we destabilize families? why do we do this to those who are not the primary users and sellers of narcotics?ter state why? why would state after stateuse e develop rules after rules to keep american citizens from being able to vote? and to have a say in their own
democracy. >> why? when we say we value democracy when we say this is why we fight , then why would we have such mass voter suppression? and understand that none of this was done with the mayor cross, there were not cross burnings that made all this happened. all of this was done coolly, methodically, systematically,te and so in my new book, "white rage" i trace a historical pattern with signpost, reconstruction, the great migration. the brown decision, the civil rights movement, and the election of barack obama.
i also trace it through three key sectors, education, the criminal justice system, the right to vote. so now i want to read some >> as yo. as you know in 1954 the u.s. supreme court ruled that separate but equal was unconstitutional. overturn the policy decision and said that we must integrate. jim crow was no longer the law of the land. the south rose rose up and said with massive resistance and said no. and used a series of ruses that affect drag this process out for a long, long time.well, well, in 1973, the court battles
are still going on in 1973, there was an area in san antonio called the edgewood district. the edgewood neighborhood it was 96% mexican american and african-american, it was the poorest neighborhood in san antonio with the lowest median income of the lowest property values. they tax themselves at the highest rate. in order order to try to fund their children's education. by taxing themselves at the highest rate, they garnered $21 per capita. meanwhile, alamo heights which was a predominantly whitehood neighborhood in san antonio tax themselves at a much lower rate, they garnered over $300 per student, lower rate, 1500% more
in fundy. now, what now, what we know is that property values have a lot to deal with public policy. where governments choose to say but the landfill, where they choose to put the highway. where they choose to zone certain types of businesses and not others, it has a lot to do with property value., the pareni so the parents and the edgewood district took texas to court. they said, this violates our children's 14th amendment rights to have equal protection under the law. it violates brown. the u.s. supreme court ruled in a 5 - 4 decision. four justices
were appointed by richard nixon and one by dwight eisenhower. that quote, there is no fundamental right to education in the constitution. they said that the state fundinl scheme did not systematically discriminate against all poor people in texas, and that because districts across the united states used propertyd taxes, that this method was not so irrational as to be discriminatory. thurgood marshall, his dissent and that is what i'm going to read. of rodrigue fully recognizing the implications of rodriguez, the name of the case, justice thurgood marshall was -- when
them 40% of black children, 14 and under lived with family below the poverty line.tances, as compared to about 2% of white children. under those circumstances marshall. , african-american children would not stand a chance. the decision he wrote in hist to dissent could only be seen as a retreat from a commitment to equality of educational as opportunity as well as an unsupportable capitulation to a system which deprives children of the chance to reach their full potential as citizens. he was simply dumbfounded that the majority would acknowledge the existence of widely disparate funding for schools across texas but then, instead of focusing on the cause of thae disparity there appear a what to all of the states supposed efforts to close the gap. the issue marshall explained is
not whether texas is doing its best to ameliorate the worst features of a discriminatory scheme.but, but rather whether this scheme itself is in fact unconstitutionally discriminatory. moreover, he found at the height of absurdity that texas couldrgh actually argue that there is no correlation between funding and school quality. you can't make this up. and then from that faultyinators premise, that there is no discriminatory consequences for the children of the disadvantage district.texas' t he was equally unimpressed with texas' tendency to pray before the justice despite living in under resourced district as some sort of proof that funding was
irrelevant. that a child could excel even when forced to attend an underfunded school with poor physical facilities, larger classes, classes, and a number of other deficits compared to a school it is to the credit of the child. not the state. but rodriguez placed the onus is solely on backs of the most vulnerable. or going off access to the resources of quality education. the played beautifully into the colorblind, post- civil rights language of substituting economics for race, yet achieving a similar result. the simple truth was that. by
virtue of this year demographic. of poverty, pride rigorous would not only have a disparate impact on african-american children, but also a disastrous one.ng i know, sobering. i then move into the war on drugs. because it has so warped american society in ways that are so profound so i walk through how the war on drugs emerge. i then walk us through the court cases, the supreme court decisions that michelle alexander in the new jim crow so beautifully laid out. and then i begin to laid out some of those consequences. as i go through the court cases i then say, taken together, those rulings alone and indeed encourage the criminal justice system to run racially a mock.
and that is exactly what happened on july 23, 1999, in tulia texas. the dead of night local police launched a massive raid and busted a major cocaine traffickg ring. at least that's how is bill by the local media which after being tipped off lined up to get the best, most humiliating photographs of 46 of the town's 5000 residentsa handcuffed in pajamas, underwear, and on come to bedhei here.ls paraded into the jail for booking. ran the local newspaper, they ran the headline cleared of garbage" the editorial plays with dealing scumbag. the raid was a result of an 18 month investigation by a man named by texas attorney generall
as outstanding mom and of the year. attached to the federally funded panhandle regional nor talk context task force base about 50 miles away, tom coleman did not lead a team of investigators, instead he single-handedly identified each member of this massive cocaine operation. he made more than 100 undercovea drug purchases.as hailed as he was hailed as a hero. his testimony immediately but to 38 being convicted. with the other cases waiting to get into the clogged court system. joe moore, a pig farmer was sentenced to 99 years. for selling $200 worth of cocaine. to the undercover narcotics agent. can see what received 25 years
will her husband william landed 434 years for possessing an ounce of cocaine. will the case began to unravel however when kinsey sister tanyt went to trial. they swore that she did not sell drugs tanya however had video proof that she was at a bank in oklahoma city 300 miles awaymed cashing a check at the very moment he claimed to have bought cocaine from her. then another defendant had timesheets and his bosses eye ws eyewitness testimony that wafer was at work and not out selling drugs to coleman. and when the outstanding mom and of the year swore under old that he had purchased cocaine from o'brien, a tall, bushy haired bushy haired man, only to have bryant balled and 5 feet six appear in court, it finally
became very clear that something was right. coleman in fact had no proof whatsoever. no proof that any of the alleged drug deals had taken place. there are no audiotapes, no photographs, no witnesses, no other police officers present. no fingerprints but his on the banks of drugs. of drugs no r no records over the span of an 18 month investigation he never wore a wire. now he claimed to have written each drug transaction on his leg but to have washed away the evidence when he had showered. so i'm either thinking he showered once in 18 months or an additional investigation led to
know proof. when the police arrest of those 46 people and vigorously search their home and possessions, no drugs were found. nor weapons, money, paraphernalia or any other indication at all that the housewife, pig farmer, or anyone else arrested were actually drug kingpins. what was discovered however was judicial misconduct running rampant in the war on drugs in texas with a clear racial bias. coleman coleman had accused 10% of the black population of dealing and cocaine. his word based on his word alone 50% of all of the black men in the town were indicted, convicted, and sentenced to prison. they called tulia a mass
lynching. taken down 50% of the male adult population like that, it is outrageous. it is like being accused of raping someone in indiana in the 1930s.. you didn't do it, but it doesn't matter. because a bunch of klansmen on the jury are going to string you up anyway. but this was not 1930. it was the beginning of the 21st century. and and the powerful civil rights movement had bridged those two eras. and then the last exerts i want to read. the last chapter deals with the election of president obama. and how white rage reared up and really, deep, profound ways. almost ways that we have not
seen in years. so as i walk through voter suppression and i move into the threats of his life in the disrespect that the office of the president received, i began to deal with the violence. black respectability or for appropriate behavior doesn't seem to matter. if anything, black achievement, black aspiration, and black success are construed as direct threats. obama's presidency made that clear. aspirations and their achievement provide no protection, not even to the god-fearing. on june 17, 2015 south carolinian, dylan roof, a white,
unemployed 21-year-old high school dropout was on a mission to take his country back. ever since it george zimmerman walked out of the courthouse a free man after killing tribe on martin and a racially polarized patient debated the verdict, ruth had looked understand the information of america. trolling through the internet he stumbled across the council of conservative citizens. it will had terrorized black people, close schools, and worked hand-in-hand with state government to defy federal, civil rights law. but despite the groups about racist belief system, in the mid-to-late 1990s as the schedule loss, the group boasted of having 34 members in the mississippi legislator and had powerful ally including those
senate majority leader, trent locke of mississippi. by 2004, mississippi governor haley barbour, the chair of the republican national committee and 37 other powerful politicians had all attended the event of the 21st-century. earl century. earl holt covered the chair gave 65,000 dollars to republican campaign funds in recent years.s including donations to the 2016 presidential campaigns of rand paul, rick santorum, and ted cruz. the tri- sea then enjoyed precisely the cachet of expect ability that racism requires to achieve its own goals within american society. it's what side of hatred and lies provided the self-serving education dylan roof so death
desperately craved. he drank in the polls and of its message. got into his car, drove to charleston, entered the emanuel and e church and landed in the bible study with a group of with a group of african-americans who are the very model of respectability. ruth prayed with them, read the bible them, thought they were so nice, then he shot them dead. . . ld what he had done and why. you're taking over our country, he said, and he knew this to be true. well, not even a full month after dylann roof againsted down nine african-americans at emanuel ame in charleston, south carolina, republican presidential front-runner, donald trump, fired up his silent majority audience of
>> i have read your book and we have discussed it with ferguson with the readings on race book group my one question and then i found a good compendium of things to kind of know but it to have that in all of one place. the one concern was you detailed problems that happened under republican administrations eisenhower to nixon with bush and the present situation under obama but you didn't talk much about clinton and gore ending warfare as we noted that democratic
administration with those effect on black people. >> certainly. thank-you and one of the reasons behind that is i was looking at the moments of indians meant where you see the push back comes from the 468. but in a piece that i did in salon just recently i to begin to impact this somewhat with bill clinton o and what he has done. is focused on the g.o.p. but industry and white rage moves through parties it isn't just isolated with the
republicans are the democrats and what we need to understand. but easily during the great depression fdr creates a series of programs. what you see happening is the southern democrats say the whee really do needsocial sr relief.. agricultural funding and support, as social security but black people can have as you can create a whole new deal compendium of programs the you have to exclude african-americans and i could talk about that but.
>> i really just want to thank you for this work is incredibly profound and what you cite to the wass completely unaware of the state of mississippi did not ratify the 13th amendment until 2013? >> yes. the state finally got around to ratify the 13th amendment to abolish slavery in 2013. they said it was an oversight. [laughter] >> they were difficult pieces the key for telling the story that only untilto recently i had learned about as a witness to her story is so important and so powerful i read the book with ferguson's on reading and i learned so much.
i had to put it down. wasn't like that for you writing it? that had to be so much more difficult to write and research. >> one of the things me and i have been through the first book i had to deal with a lot of the lynchings after the second world war i have a blowtorch lynching. as they talk about the blood blooming so hard his eyeballs popped out and i am in the record i reading through this.s going i have been in the bowels.
but one of the things that the mary turner lynching is tough. a woman who protested because her husband was lynched.er she is angry and eight months pregnant.how dare s so they come after her because she did not know her place.e. how dare she protest her husband was lynched. fr they snatcher and stricter in the home her upside down from a tree doused her with gasoline and set her on fire then they saw the stomach she's eight months pregnant quivering so they got a knife to slice it up in the baby pops out then they stopped on the baby's head. to undou read through those
records because one of thein things that is important to understand we focus on violence but it is the system that condones that violence that allows that to happen and sanctions that that is what gives theknows who attraction everybody knew who killed mary turner.he naacpr you go to the papers as theename head of the head of the naacp and he names the names. he works at standard oil and works at a furniture shop.n youe and nothing happened. so when you have that kind of violence that is white
rage. that is the judicial system that allows that to occur to keep african-americans in their place to stop the advancement. >> we talk about this in our book club but what can we do? >> you are doing it. i steady movements. what i study how do we change the norm? there are these were moments for instance before the civil war 80% of the
nation's gnp was tied up in slavery. 80% of the united states gnp tied to slavery but we got to the point to 588 been hard war we knew that slavery was wrong we came to know a jim crow was wrong.the me that apartheid is wrong. the movements that it takes to change those norms is bit by bit. neighbors talking to neighbors mobilizing in organizing and talking and thinking, it is voting. it is voting.
to lay pressure on policy makers to make this a much's ho more just and decent nation in the world. ho that's how we do it, by working together. >> hello everybody. i had to write everything down. [laughter] listed la recently i was competing -- completing a job application but a list of latin spanish mexican african-american african and asian or north africa it is said aged or island pacific project needs but then justice said white under caucasian. but nothing to reference european russians or anything like that.
wife you think it is so hard for some caucasians to recognize there also immigrants to this country and quick to say it is their country? >> a lot of that house to with the way history is taught cater 12. it creates a civics lesson o but not a history lesson. and in terms of a flat and narrative by whom in how the nation was founded who built the nation, who created the railroad, built the city's city's, invented this or that and if you go through those standard textbooks what you will find is very
minimal discussion about anybody else. whites who have built america and a sustained america and created america and whites are america.ative. it is that framing in our textbooks k-12 that has really solidified this narrative. we do get that we are a nation of a recurrence. it is thrown out there but then we have the melting pot in we all become one but not really. , head and i think as saw a statistic only 20 percent of americans have a bachelor's they k. so he% this is that history
that they know in you know, how it is when somebody tells you something defer story here is the one that everything has to be weighed against? if the first or you hear is the one you have heard over and over again then try to say your folks came from poland? i will tell you a quick story i have tons of stories [laughter] i was teaching u.s. cold war foreign policy dash and i broke my students up into research team to be the president's transition team
for a series of issues like human rights energy and environment and immigration in the road to great policy paper. really good but i require a present to the rest of the class as part of the president's team. the responses were sot i do vitriolic and. my parents were immigrants but we do need to build the wall. while. that is our happens. >> talk about when they pay attention to the flash
points karen ferguson in -- hear in ferguson michael brown is shot and killed.ans, te people take to the streets and then they overreact ferguson blows up now it is national and international news.peacefully a the end people march nobody pays attention it is a national international news for somebody who is as non-violent as you can get it seems like the only thing that people pay attention to is when suddenly things turn violent.
how do you protest like peacefully and still get attention is and making a difference with the flash point is the only thing they will not listen to? >> one of the reasons i wrote white rage we began to pay attention that we released understand the policy of privacy to pay attention to the office holders and what we're doing over the next set ofuestions a questions i would push back just a bit that whites only pay attention when something blows up because in the movement in the struggle you have rights for those you are on the ground to do the heavy lifting.lifting.
you have patients on the ground -- asians as well as latinos and african-americans. people who'd do the base work organizing and strategizing and social media has helped with that mobilization and. but what happens is we don't see it. when something shows off mad and crazy because of that organizing has already been in place, you have people
and organizations who help provide policy rationale and options can save spaces we just don't see that heavy lifting initially but to it is there and why we have to keep adit. kin it is a sexy. we love sexy.ion to who t bedazzle i tried to go through with the supreme court was doing this is why we have to pay attention to who the nominees are. we have to pay close attention because their decisions help shape this nation. >> to follow-up with his
question, i think we really do pay attention but in a different way.ll, was would do if we don't act appropriate then the media starts talking about was a parent's or environment? with the intellectual assessment to figure it out to keep our image while the nine of the brothers and sisters but they are african-american so it doesn't count we jed just by our best example did you buy your worst but we never allow ourselves but weth mislabel. so the media presents the narrative that we want we in no flash points when we step out of line we make sure we
look good could you comment on that? [laughter] >> i am working on a peace right now on respectability. >> one of the elements of this policy is how african-americans don't get the benefit of the doubt.duringe so i walk through why that was deployed during the civil-rights movement as a means to try to humanize african-americans to the power brokers because there is a series of killings real
horrific killings from 1934 where he was dragged data of the alabama jail in said down into florida and wasted up on the stand and tortured tortured. florida said there is no crime here because he was not born here in then they said because he wasn't killed here then they turn to the fbi had lindbergh if you cross state lines it is a federal offense. j. edgar hoover said there was no ransom. so to see that the politics
of respectability to make visible the only way, the only reason that you see her yea and onto the concrete in so much is because she is black it can be anything but racism. it is underway to say i have a criminal record but it is deployed. the politics of respectability does have some good pieces bypass that off because being sober is not a bad thing. [laughter] we know that alcohol and drugs destroys families. been sober is not a bad thing. education is a good thing.
but what it doesn't do is protect black violence from white violence.ed charleston and drove me to this because i looked at that and then nine that were killed or the model of respectability. you saw on the key haley -- niki he be in south carolina and thought that is bad.bility,k then you had to have theirwed we killers see you have respectability then they had to be a white supremacist incontrovertible proof he also had to have the rhodesian five-year and apartheid and a confederate flag, not done.
killer has then become that "avatar" for all muslims in the world? what you didn't see was the same kind of rationale with timothy mcveigh. way right?y begin to that is the way the narratives were killed and they can enter curred policy about, mus because you hear as they talked about muslims that what kind of policies we should put in place. >> the in the you know, the story with them looked up and they saw three flags:in the confederacy flagstaff full mast and in the order
was given to tays her. but then they stand up to and looked at the white man and let her live the leady is hh person and then he said it killed him. people don't know that story because they will not report. >> i am a historian so i will run with this one but in 1946, in columbia tenn., a white shop owners smacked a black woman a veteran was standing next to her. you do not lay your hands on somebody's mother.
he takes that white man up and present to the plate glass window. whites organized to lynched up like me and. the black veterans were not having an.ot. basically columbia at tennessee race riot after was over 23 african americans were arrested for murder.u no whites although as you know, a lot of shooting and killing happened. thurgood marshall came to defend the of black man into a viet tennessee but it was white's only hotel. after court every day he would have to drive so thurgood marshall had one of his colleagues was a white man as they would drive out of columbia tennessee he
looks behind in there is a cop car behind them. they go left the cop goes left they go right goes right speed up slowdown them pull them over. and you need to come with us. en he gets up and sing gets in the cop car. he realizes there are several cars behind the cop car they don't turnaround w but the head to the woods. goi thurgood marshall is getting ready to be lynched. the white man hops to the driver's seat turns the car on and starts falling -- following. i'm scared that i will not let this happen.