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tv   Book Discussion on This Brave New World  CSPAN  August 19, 2016 2:55am-3:46am EDT

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>> >> it is easy to stray of chorister to be isolated and abandoned. that things will get better. with what we believe bin and what we choose. [applause]
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questions? >> madam president coming it is my privilege to be here. and i went through a line by line. and if i've allowed to say i am amazed and how you provided support to the president.
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i know how critical it is to call any time of day or night. and madame president but the question through iraq, you go there and you are not well. and just take that through that. as you leave your husband behind. >> i will take that question.
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[laughter] madam president thank you and also for your inspiration she was in london. so why is this relevant? but it is part of my story we have a couple of friends here but though long story short of was a state department contractor to the iraqi national congress congress, monica hired by a battle and albright's 1999 and then they were in exile
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and then 9/11 happened. and that i felt that was my place that they needed to set up the communication operations so one of the ridiculous chapters of my book to stay on the average kid continent is pretty caroling and at one point if you recall iraqi history private first class just to lynch i was complete the second-guessing my life and there was a card it was
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saying i love you because you take such good care of me and i think i will not be able to do that anymore but i went there because i felt it was my obligation to set up the communications operation and despite all of the craziness once i got there after 13 hours, it was a remarkable period of history and that chapter defines that with the famous quotation that he says when he quotes winston churchill that, i don't remember americans. [laughter] i don't remember something like they will eventually do the right thing after tried every other option. [laughter]
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but that was iraq. >> i am a college student here in the d.c. area. one of the most meaningful books that i have read it i mean that with sincerity. my question is, what do you think it is important for future generations to believe in with the main messages of the book and why? >> the what you want to be secure course stick with
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that do not be scrapped distracted by what every face stay on course but if you stay on course you will get we ought to me. [applause] one of madame president's most quotable quotations is that if your dreams don't scare you they are not big enough and. that is one of the quotations and i would second that just to persevere when you think everything is as bad as it can get to reach out.
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>> my name is rachel i have spent the last nine years living in uganda and kenya with the journalist to tell stories but with the importance of the female role model with the nexus of culture and tradition that keep them from aspiring and i am breathless because i and spewing a the history. what works or what it takes to have a young african female to aspire to be in the position if.
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>> i cannot say even half from networking defined as reaching out to to understand the culture. to identify common causes a and working together. and pointed out a few people and in our own life story so many of those that were a part of this to bring together young people to talk about the world and to work together and all the
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young black college women don't just day in the cocoon. reach out. be courageous the neck may be it is sacrificial go out that is the great experiences share that with alabama. [laughter] florida places where with perhaps you can knock identify where uganda is.
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please you can inspire other young african-americans to do what you have done to share your experience you will find that is enriching. >> if you have a different view in terms of the future if you have the opportunity to be with the new president what did vice would you give them? president bush had the great job and with that helps challenge what'd feisty you give that new president for his legacy? [laughter]
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what advice would you give my presidential choice in terms of what she will do? [laughter] >> have a two word answer the presidential. >> i have nothing to add. >> i would like to ask a question about current politics is liberia my question of like to ask madame president for her comment on recent surge
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allegations with respect to the people of the legislature and other officials. these allegations are reported by a well-known international nonprofits. >> nothing more to what you said. a report from the international ngo with the minister of justice to look into that and have determined to be indicted to keep with the rule of law. that is a question to follow
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the rule of law innocent until proven guilty in the courts of law. >> we have time for one more question. >> going back to u.s. politics what your experiences to become the first female president in africa? day you have any advice for hillary clinton? >> i think she is on the right road. and of think anybody is it inspiring to be president of
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the united states to live in a different environment with a different constituency and the commonalities with the objectives of leadership in a global village and many of them are aspiring need to know that. that they have to be a part of the changing global world . there will not be the one to give a vice. [laughter] >> i have asked that question before but i want to return back with the
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advice that you gave to me to follow your heart and not be misunderstood.
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[inaudible conversations] >> good evening. i am president of the center and thank you for joining us we are excited with the launch in d.c. of the book "this brave new world" that is getting excellent reviews that should be the second thing you read after the wall street journal but we are privileged to joining anja in the book cofounders
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and principles to have that brief sketch of their biographies because they are so well-known to all of us in this room. anja is a former lawyer lawyer, investment bankers teaching a stanford. and ms. blackburn's providing undersecretary of state. and deputy national security advisor and among his many issues chairman of the u.s. institute so this book is a wonderful work and becomes a at a time for policy makers
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and to determine to think about china and the future so then we are very honored so now i will turn it over to anja and steve. [applause] >> i need to begin to say i am a big fan of anja and her book which i think is extremely informative and is terrific. congratulations to want to start by asking why you decided to write this book why india and china together
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? for most people either one would have been a daunting task. >> thanks for hosting this also to steve to be willing to do this and all the friends i am happy to be here. asia is in my blood growing up partially in pakistan and near the disputed border of india and do a lot of work at the state department some nine china and increasingly now we do business in those places for our clients and as i see the public discourse of america is seems we're so worried about
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china and there is so much one day they are 10 feet tall but there is very little public discourse and i believe even now end the is are the two countries to have a dramatic impact on how we all live and by then to have 3 billion people between them the companies will be selling to them and we cannot even begin to solve the world's biggest problems without them. i live in california smog clouds already traveled for major to san francisco by the third largest we need to get the relations.
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>> you already knew a lot about china before you wrote the book what most surprises you? >> the lot. >> we spend our time in washington talking to government officials and business leaders when we wrote the book we tried to see the hinterlands of both countries no electricity enmities recycling materials >> and to interview the folks who assemble all of the world's electronics and how they live in china that is what i was not exposed to
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before but what i learned from that even though there is lot of poverty india is much worse with 300 million people under the world bank poverty line that is a dollar 25 today china has 84 million so that scale is much bigger but most of the poor are working in factory jobs that are on the books. you can do it to have health benefits of the informal economy with the new biometric id system to put them on the books to give them any assistance with
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250 million new bank accounts to allow people. >> these are countries that have very different approaches after seeking power with the horse race analogy of how these countries succeed and whether they succeed. >> we do have a stake. it is much more comfortable to deal with india's then china. but there were two business centers but it was
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comfortable and relaxed that was sort of a class where but i think that is in our interest and to solve the other big problems about them. and with the presidential campaign our economy still succeed as they become the engines. >> talk about one of the problems of environmental issues.
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the biggest co2 even better in india's the roads fastest-growing so obviously it affects what happens in those two countries with the environmental situation is there something we can do with ndf and china together to make some progress on these environmental issues? >> that is a good question this is one of the most fertile opportunities to work together and in the book i lay out the challenges these countries face to great power status and how they deal with them the environment is the enormous so when you look around china you see a huge coal mine of 30 football fields a link to make them
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look tiny but they have to do that to grow they cannot help that and it is worse 13 of the most 20 polluted cities are an india when i was on the ganges river to see the dead bodies floating in the river but the problems are dire this is one of the areas to work with china and india to solve the problem i had a small part you had a large part to negotiate the civilian nuclear deal partly that was about a strategic partnership but a lot of that was cleaned non polluting power. but india has these
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projections but if you divide those by three there is more protocols and similarly i really think that the china with the climate change accord that was announced to help spur the rest of the world for their own binding commitments on emissions with another helpful way to come together. >> you have not been added the new york times recently we don't hear a lot about the corruption but if you talk to the business community one of the biggest complaints that china gets a lot more publicity with the corruption in a crackdown then wondering how much as
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about corruption or political scores can you talk about the different approaches? the way both people with us and differences of the two differences with the official that tried to involve me in the kickbacks but that is rampant that is difficult like in china with
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the most hundred thousand people investigated. and gallo so little bit like the gandhi as part of the uh thunderstrike there were tens of thousands across india to say ef is enough it has been far from perfect this is inactive is some benita reproaches alone are perfect and those that have tackle corruption with
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hongkong and south korea in the neck case. >> are you optimistic they can do that? is that too far gone to fix? >> with corruption when there is a will there is a way named three countries that turn around.
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there is a crackdown in china that there are 180,000 incidents of disruption every year but can they keep the lid on that? but with the long-term stability of china.
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>> but the of that type of dissent and to a lot of people and to with the of a run of the milk of labor conditions who one day better environment daily issues not political and i want to be paid more. and other communities that in some instances that they are under ground. and third this is the most
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important force and when i speak to students there they have no memory of it tiananmen square. and there is a guy who studies what is trending and chinese social media and the people's congress and when we were there a few there a few years ago we had a young
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government translator who said we all those social media is monitored that we switched to the new one until they catch that. we thought that was surprising and that led implode and though but he predicted the fall of the soviet union and there has been a lot of chatter and how they interpret that and in march there was an anonymous letter with the colts of personality nobody knows if they are true or not with the anti-corrections is anyone's guess if there is more
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brewing and there is a change of government in china it is more likely it is internal with the communist party than with. >> host: square but i would love to have you answer that question. >> that was not in the script. [laughter] i was sad u.s.-china dialogue we heard rumors of stability that they would not be willing to see them travel internationally.
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and to make the suggestion and that risk for the chinese that has a lot of discontent in the political system and the question for china is a few clamped down too much with the of livid to tightly. >> one thought. if you speculate with the media and the policies it is not a betty's interest of
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our rapid change of government in china. with the financial markets and the concerns of instability? >> did say balance when you have a democracy to deal with interest groups. and then they throw the bums out? and now to try to do a
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lot to with economic reform there are interest groups with in the central government and the states and india have so much power that is harder to achieve things quickly. >> one of the worst democracies in which to be a woman. >> learning about my research for a the book.
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>> however with the of lower caste they are not enforced and those who knew where of hot pink sari tens of thousands and in the villages if they know a woman is being beaten by her husband and the police don't
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do anything that day where the hot pink sari and beat up on the husband that is a very indian solution. [laughter] but there's just no comparison so they are very good for women i think 70 percent of chinese many chinese women not just a political establishment that business more self-made billionaire stand anywhere on earth. 30 billion chinese women run the company's. and that means something. >> questions from the
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audience. >> i love the logo but to be more accurate maybe to be meshed together the relationship between india and china? >> that is a very good question the indians were not too worried. the history of being oppressed by outside powers that has changed and now and
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we want to a positive relationship. india has the name -- the same trade imbalances the we're getting increasingly worried there are skirmishes there are those throwing punches on each other there are more and more worried about the number of chinese setter built around the referral their neighborhood that are increasingly active in the indian ocean is a huge turnaround. >>
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>> i would like to hear about the of population growth and by the end of the century. i have seen similar figures for japan. that has been a lot of debt that is burdened some to talk about nonperforming loans with articles on defaults. success starts to unwind that people would be thrown out of work so where does this century come from? >> on the demographic question it is hard to
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predict demographics a century of. i am looking at 10 or 15 years out by 2030 people assume china will have 1. 4 million people were around 1.5 billion. because china is aging about 70% of india will be a of working age but a much lower percentage of chinese so india has a huge opportunity for its demographics it'll be harder and harder with the nervous tension reform to prepare for day wave of retirees health care spending going up by
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10 percent every year how they need to understand how to make a turnaround for a an economy built on an investment and manufacturing and that has run its course running to a service economy . i am not an economist i have talked to a number of economists to write the book. with a specially well-respected that yes the debt is a big issue but is slowly being worked out that some of the localities can raise bonds the way they are doing in the united states
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has the absolute worst case scenario they could voiceprint money to print your way out of that but i think by and large the consensuses it is a big problem and will look it -- will not cause an enormous crash. >> i am the asian director for national affairs than two weeks ago i had an opportunity to participate in the adn of japan to more tightly partner and one of those discussions is that if you only focus on strategic military encounters you miss
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the trends of multilevel relationships so with that track to those diplomacy trends to bring india in the u.s. together beyond the idea that india in the u.s. are coming closer with china and the rationale potentially to put the relationship on the untenable path without military encountering of china. >> i agree with the premise we need as much as possible to incorporate china into everything we're doing people are increasingly worried about china's aggressiveness for the u.s. in the head japan australia
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and others to be an together and don't think a decade ago we would have considered doing joint military to discard the idea that is now happening much more frequently it is important to even though china makes it difficult and especially on the military issue that is the hardest thing to resolve. and one of the things that he said that he is quite proud of as a great initiative to persuade the p la that the chinese sailors need those of other nations

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