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does key into the issues that have appeal and hillary clinton will have to offer a persuasive counterargument to that and i think that everything i know about her where she comes by and believes. in some ways she's the ideal person to articulate the case because she fervently believes and has kind of the experience and in a way maybe the argument would be at a higher level if you get past the slogan the high-level argument is i'm the person who wants to preserve and defend this post war order and trump will question the need for that order and maybe start dismantling it. >> he may be a lot closer to where the american people are in
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terms of being against the establishment and this hasn't worked so let's try something new. there are a lot of cross karen karen's. i need to run only because i haven't written it yet and i have to prepare for this. i'm going to excuse myself while mark stays with you to buy all the books you're going to buy because it is the best investment in terms of understanding what has happened over the last eight years and what is likely to happen. that is my sales pitch. [applause]
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>> booktv recently visited capitol hill to ask members of congress what they are reading this summer. >> i have a bigger stack than i have time i fear but right now i am reading "the wright brothers," which is david mccullough's but a story of ingenuity and creativity.
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and the library of congress does a great hearing where they bring in offers and they talk about and interview them and talk about the most recent books. i had the opportunity to see david talking about this book and then they give u gave us eaa copy of the book for those of us that come to the event so it's a wonderful story. >> booktv wants to know what you are reading this summer. send your answer at booktv or you can post it on the facebook page booktv. a discussion about river basin management with officials tthat oversee the river in southeast asia. they take part in an event at the stimson center in washington, d.c. at 2 p.m. eastern on c-span2.
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and focuses on the latest nonfiction book releases through discussions. outhe discussions. our signature programs are in depth, a live three-hour look at
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an author's work with questions from viewers on the phone, e-mail and social media the first sunday of every month at noon eastern. "after words" is a conversation between the author of a newly released nonfiction boo book ane interviewer who is a journalist, public policy maker or legislator familiar and with a opposintheopposing viewpoint. "after words" airs every saturday and we will take you across the country visiting book festivals, offers events and parties where authors talk about the latest work. booktv is the only national network devoted exclusively to nonfiction books. book tv on c-span2, television for serious readers. >> david mccullough on his book "the wright brothers." this was part of the 2015 national book festival. >> pulitzer prize winner david mccullough joins us on the set.
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"the wright brothers" is his most recent book. the most recent best seller. mr. mccullough, who funded the wright brothers? >> they did. the only funding they have had disappeared from their rather modest earnings from their shop. they not only funded their efforts, but they virtually made everything that they were in need of to create the first fighters with the exception from the motorcade at the flying machine which was made of aluminum at their idea and that was in a small startup company as we recall today in pittsbur pittsburgh. it was the first hello when an
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engine ever built and when it was first used, it split and rather than saying that's not going to work, they said build another one. for the second one produced more horsepower than they expected. so a wonderful example not only is there innovative capacity to solve problems but also they didn't give up. they never gave up about anything. their perseverance against the odds was a life lesson we could all benefit from. >> we are going to throw numbers up because we want to give you a chance to talk with the pulitzer prize winner. he's written about paris and now the wright brothers. (202)748-8200 in east and
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central time zone. zone. 748-8201 for those of you in amount and pacific time zone. and we also are taking texts. if you want to text an and it at work question to david mccullough con 20,246,568,427 number and you can also contact the social media and we hope those addresses up as we talk. did they die wealthy? >> yes but not superrich as the so-called robber barons of the day. wilbur died very tragically in 1912. so he never really lived to see the money tha but they were nevn it for the money. they were in it because they had been raised on the idea that it was a high purpose and they
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selected this as their objecti objective. they were not bothered by the fact they had no money or college education or that people thought they were crackpots and made fun of. even after they have proven to fly an airplane. >> it took five more years but the world was able to read that human beings could fly. it didn't happen in this country. it happened in france because neither the federal government here or the press or anybody else wanted to accept the fact that these men had done something miraculous. it's one of the most difficult and impossible technological
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problems ever. it's the television or the light bulb or other things happening at the same time. >> how did you pick your topic, "the wright brothers," truman? >> i really don't know. something happens and it clicked us and that's it. with this when it happened because i just finished the book on americans who went to paris to protect their abilities as architects, doctors, sculptors, writers because the training of the kind they needed was available and way behind those.
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they were the greatest in the world. and then i took that up to 1900 they got so intrigued with this fact of american life carrying it into the 20th century the second volume and doing so i found out. once we start reading about them on human beings that is miracle workers. i thank my stars for this is so
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infinitely fascinating and full of so many surprises about how different they were than what most people imagined. >> you were the first call for david mccullough. go ahead and ask your question. >> we are listening. go ahead. >> a piece of the plane went up with neil armstrong and 69. >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear that. >> host: i could barely hear but he said something about he just finished your book and there was a piece of the plane taken to the moon with neil armstrong. >> guest: yes. neil armstrong. a piece of the canvas that was the covering for the wings with him to the moon. he didn't leave it there but he
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took it as a symbol of their heritage if you will. there is a gratitude for what the wright brothers had done. that's what they were doing. it came from the same section of ohio. southwestern ohio. it is a motor powered aircraft. the first human being as it were. >> what was the competition initially and were they aware of it? >> guest: the competition was it?guest co. the competition was comparatively modest up until then.
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they were aware of it and they were way ahead of the competition because by studying soaring birds they figured out a solution to the problem and the fact when they eventually went to france to demonstrate what they had achieved, the great french aviator is all said we are but children compared to them. they are so far ahead of us it is almost heartbreaking but they also felt an immense respect for what they had achieved. >> next call for mccullough comes from steven in quincy illinois. >> i'm honored to be able to ask david mccullough a question.
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why did president adam adams whe been a great attorney and a fair and reasonable man ever signed the sedition act and why was the act enforced using his presidency so vigorously against the supporters of thomas jefferson many of whom were in prison for criticizing john adams and his administration. >> guest: the signing was a mistake on the part of president adams that he himself when he realized he had nothing to do with it once it was passed. yes it was wrong and against the fundamentals. but if you look at how people
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were in prison imprisoned, it wc mistake rather than upgrade consequences. i don't know a president who didn't make a mistake in office and. history is about human beings. >> host: here is another text from the indianapolis area. which president has the most consequential career after the term and it? >> guest: john quincy adams it was his star performance for all the right things he brought for them and john quincy adams is a
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vastly underrated american. we don't get much attention to one term president said he was a great man intellectually he may have been the most brilliant human being ever. if you want to send a question for the guests today 465-6842 is the number. the next call comes from tom in palm harbor florida. >> guest: good morning. >> guest: >> caller: my father was the manager of the factory in 1960. did he learn anything about them and his name was milton.
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>> guest: by both end in 1910 when they decided to b decided d whathey achievedwhat they were . until then they would never do that because if one were killed they wanted the other one to still be a live to carry on with their mission. if they gave total devotion excluding everything else we think is the normal life. they never married or went on vacations and they were totally committed to their work. the father was an itinerant minister and for them to fly and throw themselves in the air it wasn't just the misunderstandings about the wright brothers.
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they learned to fly it and they were the first test pilots ever and they were testing something that nobody else had ever test tested. >> what is the next book? >> guest: i don't know. >> host: my idea is to take this call from kathy in illinois. you are on. >> i enjoy "the wright brothers." i'm a delta airlines employee and i have a further appreciation of flying. do they ever establish and get credit for that office but never
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resolved. >> guest: it wasn't long after the warping and they knew about it but they filter their method it was superior. they came in and used up shortly afterwards. no, i don't think so. they felt they did what was necessary at the time. had they lived longer he might have changed. in answer to your question did they assume the business problems down to the point he contracted typhoid i don't think there's any question about it, yes. he was very pale and on average
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and then contracted typhoid. to me it is like a tragedy because the father had warned them of all their lives beware of the water. .. >>
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>> when he gave an eloquent summons i took that to heart i had a very good job in new york and i gave that up to come to washington but i wound up working for the u.s. information agency which also happens at that point by my good luck to be run by edward r. murrow so for the next three years i had a huge privilege of the graduate school glory of working for the u.s. information agency and that changed my life and while i
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was working on that particular project that i happen to discover some material at the library of congress and i suddenly found myself with the ambition to write a book. once i got started in did the research i knew that is what i wanted to do. >> up next. >> they keep for your books and my grandmother knew the right to brothers and would call them the creasy bicycle boys. but is it by patterson air force base. >> first of all, your
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grandmother was among a large crowd that thought they were wacko or crackpots. but they are a little off their balance. the with the wright-patterson air force base it has been preserved exactly the way that was. is far more important than people realize. it was not an airplane yet it took three more years to develop a practical airplane.
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>> do you think the right to brothers hinders progress of american aviation? >> no. no more so than alexander graham bell use the cell phone. or that the patents with the use of development. no. all you have to do is look at what happened to aviation and did almost no time the right brothers what they had developed as the plane was not recognized as a reality. the plane that was used in world war two or world war i was vastly different from what they have flown.
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it has been a reality. beyond anyone's imagining and he loved to see then a jet propulsion and rockets with world war i and world war ii. >> pennsylvania go-ahead. >> caller: thanks for taking my call. i want mr. mcauliffe to know
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how much i have read his book and enjoy them. why did it take american so long to get behind the right to brothers and their ideas? the french seem to be on board quickly. i just wondered why. >> i think the most dramatic example of how blind we were fine every day almost with the weather permitted those editors and reporters would not even speak for themselves some years later they said how could that be it was right in the year goes as city paid attention
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he said we were plain stupid. the first person to publish the accurate account with this breakthrough to change history and there wasn't a beekeeper who came down to see for itself was happening . said he saw was happening eroded article about it for the beekeepers journal and that was the first complete and accurate account that year played had arrived ever published. the end he was not blinded
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by what he had come to feel. somebody had to say it. is real and it is here. tom hanks will be making a movie or a miniseries for hbo based on the books and i can wait to see who they cast as famous -- amos. i have some ideas but. >>host: will you have any input? >> very much so. i think the world of tom hanks i know what a beautiful work he does. >> i and aspiring writer and
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i greatly admire how you have excellent story telling and the question is how do you find your voice? from alabama. >>guest: i assume you mean my voice as a writer. by writing. there is only one way to learn how to write and that is to sit down and write and learn to edit yourself you have to separate the writer from the editor. and how to make it work. one way to do that is plotted on a shelf for a couple of weeks or more. then take a fresh look
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because you will see what you didn't we were writing. and then have somebody read aloud to you. then you will hear things about it but you don't necessarily see. the repetition of certain words or the fact you suddenly have become very boring. and that means she will read that three year four times one draft of -- over another she always hears things that need to be changed it is
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very gratifying no writer can survive without readers. i in dependent on the reader's. i'll love to hear what they think are what might have been better. >> we have the caller. go-ahead. >> i love your book. when wilbur was born a few miles from here.
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jedi was a little sad that the end and orville and his sister had a falling out. was that ever resolve?. >>guest: the bishop was their father who was a bishop in the church and the sister was the august of the children and yes i was very surprised to learn how our important the father was and the sister was. because they were part of the joint cover and you cannot leave people like
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that out. far more than people realize. if she was not there it would not have happened she was always there in she gave up a -- kept up their spirits and was very bright and funny and sharp thinking that it had not behave as they should. he did shot really understand the technology. they were brilliant with us
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in the smithsonian or institute of technology. nowhere near as far as they did the yet they had never been to college or even finish high school but that did not hold them back. wilbur was a genius. and that is important to understand. and catherine understood that as to the father. >> areas surprise a teddy roosevelt did not endorse the right brothers. >> he did and he didn't. he had the courage to have the first president ever to go down in a submarine it was leaked to the press to
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go across the river when he was doing demonstrations and orville wright was very upset and didn't think they should take such a risk but insisted he would do it with a few days later a attended in the army that he crashed and he was killed him as theodore roosevelt he may yet then the one that was killed. >> here is the suggestion for your next book.
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>> what about your biography ? that could be steamy. >> i can tell stories of the people i have met along the way with the help they have given your the windows they have thrown open or the french ships they have made it also about this category. >>host: lafayette you are on booktv. >> caller: i just want to tell him i am a big fan. [inaudible] >>host: please go ahead
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with your comment. >> caller: speaking in dearborn michigan i would like to hearken back to your earlier book why france or paris? that is very expensive why was that carried out there? >> the french were way ahead of us in technology in its engineering and science from the best medical trading in the world so that was not available here. a the harvard medical school was small and inadequate and
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that the cadavers were illegal in much of our country there for anyone who wanted to understand the anatomy or deception it was limited to the opportunity to do so because they were sold in the black market. so even a the doctors themselves did not have access with the workings of uh human body where in france they could spend-- servants doing nothing in the beneficiary of that marvelous experience was oliver wendell holmes sr. he was one of the living figures of the harvard medical school teaching anatomy but that is just one
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example. we are far more indebted to the french in many fields than we realize that is one of the clearest of all examples. >> when i was getting my information with the letters to the young medical students what they wrote whole manner reminiscent years later many of them were the sons of doctors and the fathers wanted to know what are you learning? they were in the forefront of that experimentation of progress and wanted to be left behind


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