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tv   Discussion Focuses on U.S.- China Relations  CSPAN  September 2, 2016 6:24am-7:56am EDT

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>> why don't we see if there are questions to start with from the audience? we have a microphone so if you would come, put your hand up, could you identify yourself and your affiliation. >> thank you for your analysis.
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i have a question, what was adopted already by human policymakers, the trajectory of china, does it make a difference? is there anything new, trying to give that interest, something to talk about. how is that in us relations? thank you. >> the first question, i think,
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to try to stop the perceived -- especially this perception that occurred because in washington dc, us/china experts, and you can know, they offer different reasons of explanations, they are not assertive. being assertive because things
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like philippines, and it is plenty -- and the united states, to understand chinese people or chinese behavior, nothing changed in china policies, treated with a policy like japan in the 1980s. you are right, you can see, try to find -- a big challenge.
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some structural reasons, to see actually between the two countries, so hard to understand, it is not about that language, they can speak english, they have a high label communication between officials but up and down, past 40 years, it is always up and down, i think i feel the sense that most of the interviews i contacted tried to call for responses, and
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the south china -- that is showing the passion among china experts. in washington dc, those china experts, they will do multiple responses in the new american government, and the tradition of simple strategies. to show if you have a patient or don't have a patient, the united states has a good passion, the
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united states waits for the condition or better condition, the obama administration realized that. the situation between the united states and cuba. the united states loses patients and tries to respond, that is the policy to intervene in iraq. in the middle east, how us -- losing passions for the area. that is what i worry about. i hope i answered your first
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question. and think about taiwan, us relationship and government. so far so good. only two months. the new government's popularity just dropped. we can just wait, this new government, so far so good. it was not in a position to deal with those in taiwan and that is a reason they did not direct the consensus. and the united states, tried to
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make the balance between different ideologies, the best she can do to maintain the united states and also on mainland china. >> microphone please. >> the agency in hong kong, any evaluation for what taiwan could bring for strategies, the
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difference -- the method, all kinds of impacts. >> very tough question. you give me two scenarios. the second one, trump elected. i was told by one of my interviews that only under two conditions, mister trump will win the election, one is mrs. clinton was detonated by someone in the second situation, there is going to be in new york, two conditions from trump to win the
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actions. i think mrs. clinton, looking quite good right now according to public polls, she is doing well. the consensus here, mrs. clinton's actions, highly possible, highly likely she will improve policy. that means i think in theory not to increase taiwan's diplomatic
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low. the economic role in asia-pacific. the united states government will be much more friendly towards taiwan. and an active role, the active role, and the government, try to emphasize it, the government issue, and domestic economic issues, and deal with
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neighboring countries. the data in domestic politics, the performances, any voice or inference for the new government in taiwan, about economic issues. the second, foreign-policy, probably in my opinion to learn from a previous policy, two different positives, and
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property, not so much, not sufficient, theoretical supporting, still pursue the policy but the new government needs to think about the substance of the policy, in these conditions but the abstract, kind of a direction, in taiwan they think about it in the region but need to speak out how to articulate it. and they need to emphasize
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economic performance. >> coming to you. >> i want to ask about policies, what this meant to you, after -- this expense to be more aggressive and dignity and how to comment, what action with the federal government was influenced for this? >> thank you. a good question.
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the second one is deeper, let's think about it, what will happen. most people i interviewed, the south china sea disappears, one small part of the issue. that is the reason why. and some hesitation, try not to be heavy in the first time to use patients arriving and no doubt the united states has a strong argument about the obligation point but on the
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chinese side, the new action results, and in theory i think the chinese government for the united states, us government, i don't think of the issue especially nothing -- kind of a contract between china and the policy a good starting point and diminished hope cannot be solved overnight. i think according to my observations the chinese approach is to go to natural
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dialogue with disputed other parts. not directly negotiating with the united states, they wait for the new government and about taiwan's role. i know we have a new government in taiwan. south china policy, new south china policy, that means that the new government in taiwan avoids the chinese government to make a good relationship with
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southeast asia countries. i'm not optimistic because i think of those countries, and in mainland china in taiwan, and southeast asia -- in china, more willingness to cooperate with new government in taiwan. today, taiwan can benefit from its role in universal barriers. if taiwan tried to take advantage of deteriorating relationship between mainland
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china and the united states it would be a miscalculation, very dangerous. some people disagree about its conclusions, what taiwan can play you don't try to maintain or construct a relationship with mainland china. possible for taiwan to play a contractual role, but not saying the government should always rely on the goodness of mainland china and to find a new way through mainland china and to improve the current situation, thank you.
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>> what about here? the new wave so if you have a way for that and another question, china will be forced to taiwan and a message to taiwan to take some action? >> thank you very much. if i have any suggestion, if
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not, if not, if i put the same position, it is very hard, you need to listen to those supporters for independence, tpp parties. for me the better strategy is not to admit that you need to be perceived by the chinese government, to talk about the consensus. that is the starting point.
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that was a policy the chinese government, you cannot just say that which i don't think about the previous government because the people of china, accept this position, you need to put that in a previous government, and if you accept the consensus there is much room for you to negotiate with people in mainland china. still labored for negotiation, you heard about a very competent
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-- for negotiation with people in mainland china, even the framework of considering. the chinese scholar to mention about the chinese strategy to use force to take taiwan by 2021, chinese scholars usually talk about more, different positions, in which the party,
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and was told about a popular not to view a secret that improves the current new government in taiwan to go back to the so-called normal relationship with taiwan, not to accept the 92 consensus but that is a signal to perceive it. that is a signal. you can take it as a joke, for mainland china to take taiwan by force in a short time but the people in the new government take it seriously and need to
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find ways to try to have more updated information. actually have a connection to the parties. >> we take it seriously. >> most people, ignore this statement, that is my opinion. >> taiwan takes some action which doesn't mean taiwan
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relations and do something? >> you can have positive action or negative, but it is hard to define the action as a result but i know what you are talking about, you try to improve the issue in order to respond to known dialogue in taiwan, but as i mentioned, can benefit a lot from practicing international barriers of democracy, human rights, that is an effective
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role for the united states to play the grand strategies so the new government, doing it well, shared barriers, that is a contracting example for the united states to talk to people in mainland china and tell them that you see a good combination with the consensus so that is kind of what the united states -- most of taiwan can do in order to keep practicing but the
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details, you need different policies. >> thank you, hung-jen wang. the same as the match for positions of the workload and fascinated by the views between the us and china and on some level you use that for different views how the relationship is. that leads to that and at the same time passive neutrality.
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and talking about strategy in the region. and started trying to take the framework and relationship with neighbors in the region. any word from them? what is the status of china? in the region? >> whether you got -- >> and also found, ridiculous --
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china tried efforts to show the goodness, and we have compromise policies, and from the chinese government, what does that mean? the relationship with china, unilaterally, to make consensus, economic consensus, that -- later -- compromise, then they
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can expect responses. however it is frustrating when we see the results. many countries are getting more worried about china and the economic relationship of diplomatic relations 54 example the chinese government released a program, many of you know about it. but in the beginning, neighboring countries, financial support issues, you see those policies, in thailand, the philippines, read articles, more and more people show their miss
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trust or distrust of mainland china. more people worried about their future, chinese government, but it is very frustrating right now because they show their efforts to make a better relationship with other countries. so there is still something existing between china and other countries especially people concerned, chinese government representing the democratic party so that is the image, a
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lot of people, attitudes or positions about chinese intention to have a good relationship with their people. there are different issues here. there are observations of that. >> the us correia institute, in discussing the american election, hillary clinton had a chance, i can't imagine -- i
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question what i hear from my children, bernie sanders, millennial voters, what your interlocutors were saying, presumption of the bernie sanders millennial voters, hillary clinton as some hot, she is much more confrontational than president obama, a look at her statements on the freedom of navigation, look at the statement in january, the japanese foreign minister, under the administration of japan, i am not saying i agree with that
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but the criticism of bernie sanders young voters voting for hillary clinton, she will have a margaret thatcher iron lady approach, the first woman in office she won't want to back down and margaret thatcher, the argentine destroyer in the barco war, did the interlocutors say hillary clinton is elected president, they think there could be a more confrontational face down between the united states and china? >> thank you for your question. you are absolutely right.
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the observations, regarding how the new government, the clinton government will play a much more tough grace keeper china policy, current obama administration. just bought a book, kind of very important. just published a new book, he and clinton took time to decide the role of asia, we read a book to see more details, regionally,
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and policy, the good idea tries to remind the united states to associate from middle east to asia, not only china, south korea, japan, the philippines, in terms of economic things, that is a good policy but in the end, a policy, china, writing power and containment policy favored by many china scholars,
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and to increase hillary clinton creating advice and need to provide advice, much more assertive, pouring her back to a more balanced way to have more dialogue and communication. i mentioned a personal relationship between two countries. high level communication between the two countries, they need to continue to do that. current obama administration interviews coming right now, locking on to compare with that,
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moves of clothes, high-ranking official communication between the two countries. that kind of information i was told by my interviews but the relationship between the countries, personalized channels, to clarify those, to show different cooperation. that is the way to prevent possible harsh policies from the new government in the united states and prevent that.
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>> the last question going back to your response, about patients. i would like your reaction. the point i would like to raise his patients depends on the situation. your example of cuba, contrasting it with iraq, needs more analysis. cuba, now that we got through cuba, the cuban missile crisis and we are not facing that kind of situation, was not a threat. it was a highly contentious political issue in the united states but it was not a threat to basic us interests. that is my impression. what happened in belize potentially was. a lot of people thought there was a nuclear threat involved and the whole stability of the middle east which is viewed in
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the united rates as central strategic importance, the same can be said about asia. the whole reason for the pivot was because there was a sense which some people don't agree with, that the us had not engaged efficiently in the region whether it is economic, diplomatic and security interests were deeply engaged and were going to be for the foreseeable future as far as you wanted to look. >> the perception of many people is what china did in terms of creating artificial islands was in fact to raise potential security threat to us interests and so there was the island building, construction on the islands and the question of militarization or not.
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as you look at the question of patience, do you see a difference in the ability or even the desirability of maintaining patience depending on the nature of the situation and if you are looking at the us, whether it is seen as posing a potential threat to us interests. >> a tough question. i am thinking you are right. it depends on the situation. in my mind it depends on one's willingness -- in the short-term on top. basically relies on
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policymaker's, leaders of the country, leaders in china and the united states to decide if they want to use these capacities. you mentioned there is much more between cuba and the middle east and iraq. for my information is correct, i know donald rumsfeld was accused of making up a story about iraq, the country finally was found out not to have mass destruction weapons. the kind of -- refused -- these events. i think probably -- i am not
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sure. actually knew that iraq does not have weapons of mass destruction before they launched a war with iraq, to decide to do that, that is -- always attention for their own reasons, their own interests, to respond immediately. as you can see on the chinese side, it is always depending on the argument that you make whether you want to exercise the power of capacity to deal with a different situation.
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so far we can see on the chinese side information about artificial islands, on the chinese side they are not the first country to do artificial islands. they had artificial islands pushing china to respond in an equal way. we have observed chinese government behaviors, they mentioned putting aside issues and having a common construction. this is a solution of patient policy to try to know the issues. to kind of avoid the sensitive
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political issues is an example -- let me change the policy, many people observe the chinese leader -- probably will not like who jintao or people with much patience about china or taiwan issues so it depends on the judgment on the new government. rely on their judgment, have more patience before better conditions come. the judgment includes the situation.
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>> no more questions? you got the microphone. >> if anyone offered a more optimistic view, does it sound so pessimistic? >> one or two people expressed the optimistic view of these conditions. chinese government to change its behavior, and the chinese government one day, conditions -- some people will be very immature.
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pessimistic -- most people i interview answer they have a pessimistic view and for those associates in the region you refer to as i mentioned to you, harry hawkins in the article, about china's future. they can give you much more important issues. how people in washington dc have this worry and where is this worry coming from and what do we associate these pessimisms? that is the part of my presentation today, the point in 2010-2001, those are perceived, power points in china for the
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united states, power change. among those think tanks. >> any more questions? >> focusing entirely on these, something to understand, today the news is about the terrorist bombing in syria. when the cold war endeded the soviet union -- who expected the united states would be involved in a war in afghanistan extending for years? are we looking in the wrong place for china's future
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security? >> thank you very much. another tough question. for some it depends. i think the current us strategy is kind of a self prophecy theory. the result, because you have this policy, the better result because of your better policy, strategy for the united states, i don't blame the government. it is wrong in terms of to many people who have a bad memory,
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those in asia who have the education system, better memory about world war ii and the chang dynasty to intervene, people suffering a lot. from good intentions, human rights issues to promote good barriers or policies, some people, asia, most people in mainland china don't like these universal barriers applied to asia. that is the reason they tried to promote these ideas, to respect
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each other's sovereignty, to respect each other's cultural histories, different philosophical thinking and so on. that is the point, the reason most chinese people cannot accept or perceive any goodness from the united states, kind of intervention in their life, their political system. when you go to china, most people say yes and that is something that speaks from their heart. because they have a memory, universal barriers, except in
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some countries like china. a complicated question to talk about confrontation between china and the united states and many countries in asia. >> you have provided us with a lot of food for thought and i want to thank everybody here for coming. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> tonight booktv in primetime
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