tv North Dakota Senate Debate CSPAN October 20, 2016 9:50pm-10:22pm EDT
>> welcome to the prairie public coverage of election 2016. this is the debate for one of the u.s. senate seat. ♪ my guests today are the craft eliot, libertarian robert marquette, and republican senator opening statements senator hoven will go first. >> senator? >> things to you and prairie public for hosting this debate. i believe in north dakota i believe in the people of north dakota and i believe that the will of the government is to empower people. that means focusing on the fundamentals. the things that will help our economy grow and job creation.
that means reducing the regulatory burden and making sure that we reform the tax code so that its programs and simpler and more fair. that means balancing the budget so we don't believe a death to our children and grandchildren and it also means supporting law enforcement and our military so that americans feel safer here at home and abroad. these are the things that will make the state and nation stronger. >> moderator: one minute opening statement. >> in 1997, glenn fox suffered a tremendous flood of 800 homes were badly damaged. almost the entire city had to be evacuated. at that time i was on the city council, and we were charged with getting the city back up and running. people were concerned about whether they should reinvest in the city. on the committee i was on, some
of my fellows spent a lot of time debating trivia and i got so frustrated and angry that at one point i shouted stop talking and start moving dirt and that is the sense of urgency i want to bring to the united states senate. there've been too many things that they've not finished, they haven't worked on or got been taken care of and issues have been festering for years. that's one minute. thank you very much. >> i am running for the united states senate because i am sick and tired of the corruption that has become systemic in washington. i don't believe that senator has done anything to address these issues and in fact he is part of the problem. the collapsing commodities prices that are destroying
profits for the oil producers and farmers are the direct result of the failed economic and monetary policies designed to deal with the toxic consequences of the national debt and he's voted to add $6.5 trillion. our failing economy and lost liberties of the establishment politicians i believe he's betrayed the trust and confidence of the people of north dakota. we can do better than this, i can do better than this. >> let's start with the hot button issue. i want to hear all of your opinions on the project, hoand w it was permitted and handled and where it goes from here for both the state and federal perspective. elliott you start us off on th this.
>> glassheim: tribes were not directly consulted as a sovereign nation as they should have been although they were invited to many meetings. i am not sure that the closing of that road was the right thing to do. i think the governor should have met with the leaders to work out a solution. we are in a really bad situation now. we need the federal government to step up with some funds but more than that, we need both the tribes in the pipeline company to be brought to the table to see if they cannot find a way out of this impasse. and if i were the senator i would try to broker that kind of meeting.
>> i would fully support the dakota access pipeline and based upon what i understand, all of the permitting processes and the necessary eyes have been dotted and t.'s have been crossed and i think we should go through with it. my principal concern is whether or not with the condition of the world economy and the collapse of the commodity price is whether there will be oil pumped through that pipeline and i think the most important thing i can do as a united states senator is address the monetary policies created by washington's deficit spending and restore free-market sources so we can have a more thriving and vibrant economy here in north dakota.
>> we need the energy infrastructure for national security. to produce energy in this country and get it to where it needs to go, we need energy infrastructure. that means pipelines, bridges, all of the above. we can build the pipeline safely, not only protect the tribe downstream but everyone else. it goes to an existing right-of-way for thright-of-waya gas pipeline and a transmission line so whether you are for tradition or renewable, we need this church. we can build it safely, we need regulatory certainty, legal certainty so we can build the infrastructure. the administration needs to step up. i am pushing them not only to get disapproved but also to help us with wall enforcement and safety so we protect the farmers and ranchers in that are the ard make sure any protests are
peaceful and we get the project done. >> moderator: elliott, response. >> glassheim: i agree that we need the energy and pipelines with the safest views of transporting oil. we are not going to do without, any time in our lifetimes, so we need to find a way to do it. however, we do know that pipelines occasionally break and so, there is no absolute guarantee of safety for drinking water. and i don't know how we resolve that issue but the pipeline has to be built and it needs to be done safely and perhaps in a different place crossing the missouri. but that needs to be negotiated
and discussed further. >> marquett: in the entire process, they have archaeologists on-site to ensure all the historical sites were preserved, all the petitions were filed and the pipeline should just go through. i believe that it's the safest and most effective way to transport will. we just need to ensure that we have a thriving and vibrant balkan to ensure that we can supply the oil. >> moderator: last response and then we will move onto another topic. it can be done safely. understand it's in an existing right-of-way where you have the pipeline and transmission line. that's why i make the point whether you are for fossil fuel
or renewable, we need this infrastructure. also, it is going to be dug underneath the river so it is 92 feet below the bottom of the river. if there were a week it would be 100 feet below and would have to come up to even get into the river and of course there's monitoring devices on it as we well. also, the federal district court judge in washington and in obama appointee determined that the court had done everything that they need to do, and in fact it's been changed 140 times to address any archaeological concerns. so again this is about doing it right and well but we need regulatory certainty to build the necessary infrastructure and one final point, it's one thing to have protests but the need to be peaceful and within the law and what we are seeing is protests that are not put into law and that puts a burden on the wall enforcement.
the obama administration needs to step up to help get this done and help the wall enforcement efforts and i'm working hard to get them to do that and get reimbursement for the state and local cost of office wall enforcement. >> this has become a big issue this year with attacks on same or medina to the -- san bernardino. how would you deal with crisis overseas and homegrown terrorism robert, you start us off on this one. >> marquett: we first have to understand the cause of the problem in particularly with domestic terrorism and the cause of the problem is the failed interventionist foreign-policy. iraq, libya, none of these countries have attacked the united states and our military interventions in these regions
are murdering millions of people, destabilizing the region and peace or illegal acts and it should come as no surprise to anyone that there is a blue back to this activity and that means people want to get even. they want justice for what's been done to their homeland and their people. >> you need a comprehensive strategy to take out isis. by working with our allies in the region that means depeche mode, the jordanians, the iraq iraqis. we've got to make sure that we are working with our allies and then we provide the kind of leadership and strategy the logistics command and control, those kind of activities that
can make sure that like i say our allies in the region go in and with our leadership and strategy take out isis and we've got to take out at the root and then at the same time work in our country with the fbi, cia, with all of the agencies and stand strong to make sure that we root them out in this country as well and that's why when robert talks about drastically cutting our military in half, that makes no sense and it's not something we can do if we want to take out isis and make sure americans are safe at home and abroad. >> glassheim: first we will have no boots on the ground. we have had a number over the last three decades and none of them have turned out well so i
don't think we need to do that. also, we need to be friendly with all the muslim countries throughout the world who do not embrace terrorism, which is a billion or more people. that's why we can't have donald trump's proposals even discussed because they alienate the muslim people from the united states and we need them to help us in combating isis. we need to put more money into supporting our friends in jordan and elsewhere who are willing to fight against the people who are killing their people as well. at home, we probably need to increase funding for the fbi and the intelligence services and we
need to do something about guns for people who are thought to be dangerous. there has to be a constitutional way to prevent them from getting guns if they've been judged to be dangerous. certainly the no-fly and novi list would help some do not have domestic arrests. >> marquett: i appreciate the senator putting words into my mouth but i would prefe that i t them there myself. she speaks about working with our allies in the middle east. there's been a document dump that now illustrates our allies that are funding and arming isis. i don't know how you work with allies like that. they have to understand that in cvs it isn't just a civil war.
it is a cold war and it's a holy war. of these things are being played out all at the same time and as far as the holy war is concerned, it is saudi arabia and qatar and turkey supporting the radical islamists, isis and other types of organizations providing them with logistics and support because the debate could be perceived bishara al-assad for his secular ideology and it is part of their ideology that these infidels must be removed so they can establish the sharia law. plain and simple, under bishara al-assad was a place where muslims, christians and jews could all live in peace and harmony because of their secular progressive nature and quite
frankly, the united states and its allies are on the wrong side of the fight. this is why we have to separate the military so strongly and that is what i will continue to do that at the same time, we need an administration that will stand with our allies and up to our adversaries on a consistent basis and put forward a strategy working with our allies in the region to defeat isis. >> moderator: last response and we will move onto another topic. >> glassheim: i would remind the senator that we have a president who is doing that and has a strategy. we have continued drum strikes and we have to be pushing isis back. i think that he is waiting for some funding from the congress. we are doing exactly what he saihesaid he wanted president oa is in charge of that and it's
working. >> let's move to north dakota's economy which in the last year we have seen as dependent on energy and oil as we head across the budget cuts in thing and the that and some accusations that may be in north dakota is too dependent and cozy with oil companies as some have alleged. what can be done from your seat washington, senator you start. >> i talked about this from the outset. it's not more government, it's stimulating the private sector and empowering ingenuity and you do that by reducing the regulatory burden, reforming the tax code to encourage and empower more investment. you make sure you control government spending and reduce -- here i agree we need to reduce spending. those are the steps that enable job creation and investment and for me, jobs has always been job number one but we have to
understand that comes from the private sector investment and you have to create a climate that will help us not only grow the economy and build on our energy base, i talked about the next wave of development in terms of economic growth being a technology that we have to continue to diversify into that spend my life's work both in the private and public sector. this has always been an absolute priority for me. >> one of the most important things that we can do is increase spending on research and development, much of which comes from the federal government and where new developments are discovered and then put them to work. we have a very healthy medical operation at the university. we have research as is needed in
the clean coal and oil and these government programs help to stimulate jobs. i would remind the senator that most government spending goes to the private sector. sometimes he acts as if the government fo were spending itsn money on its health. but mainlmainly they hire privar people to accomplish the purpose the government set out. i would think that he's been very active and i need to applaud him for his work on the activity that is a very good next step and i think we should develop and we also need to research money in terms of establishing the presence in the global economy. >> first we have to recognize
that the problems faced in north dakota are a direct result of national debt and the field of monetary policy. listen, since the great recession, the government has increased the national debt. it's a formula for bankruptcy and congress knows it. they had a choice they could have slashed the government spending and pay down the national debt or what they chose instead to do is bailout they are banker buddies and try to stimulate the economy in an attempt to try to grow it faster than the debt so the interest rates were fixed near zero and they loaded up the reserves and the government told the producers you should borrow this money to expand production and increase the supply of goods and commodities.
it failed and we ended up with an economy in a surplus of supply in things like legal and agricultural commodities and when supply exceeds demand, the price collapses and this is where we are today and it is senator hoeven and congress out of control spending that's created this problem. >> from the cosponsor if elected what action will you take to update social security so that its sound for the future generations. elliott. >> glassheim: social security is one of my top priorities. it's extremely important to tens of thousands of retired people in north dakota and millions around the country and people depend upon it. we also need to make sure the government guarantees that it will be there long into the
future. right now but congress has been kicking the can down the road, they've been unable to act on it and if nothing is done very soon within 17 years, everybody will take a cut in their benefits automatically. nobody will be to blame. everybody in congress will say it's not our fault we didn't do it but it will happen if they don't act. we need to increase the basic level at which people pay taxes. it's 114,000. we need to raise that perhaps to 200 or 250 and that will bring in enough money to deal with most of that deficit and we may have to also do things to hold benefits in check.
we have to have republicans and democrats agree. >> i am not a professional establishment politician so i don't need to lie to people about these things. the congressional budget and heritage foundation released a report earlier this year based upon the numbers that showed that social security needed an immediate injection of $50 trillion in order to maintain long-term solvency and we don't have the money. it's simply just not going to happen. the numbers also demonstrated they were projected in 16 years social security, medicare, medicaid, affordable care act, subsidies and interest on the
national debt will consume 100% of the revenues taken in by the treasury leaving nothing left over for anything else including the national defense. we have to recognize the federal government has destroyed all of these programs and we have to take them away from the people who have so severely mismanaged them. >> we are getting very short on time. we need to make sure that it's sold and for the long term. right now it's about 2030. right now gdp growth is one to 2%. we need to get that up to three or 4% and also with job creation we will get more people in the workforce. the percentage of people during the obama administration dropped from about 66% down to about 62%. what that means fewer people paying into social security. right now we have 7.9 million unemployed.
i swear to the people of north dakota that i have the conviction to do what it takes to make the changes that will end the destructive economic monetary and foreign policies and wall street's corrupting influence on government and restore the wealth, power and control of our lives back to the people so help me god. hovenmack robert you you said some things after sponsor greater than all of it this day talking to north dakotans and i think in what they want so when you say you want to legalize all drugs including math come including opiates all drugs may have a drug problem that's not what north dakotans want. all somebody has to do is look on their wet dasher web site and they will see that. so again this is about making
sure that we do we can to build our state and our country. i've enjoyed working with you in the legislature through the years priddy the point about bipartisanship. we have to work together in this country. we have to come together in a positive way. i care about her country and her care broader state. we have to get this economy going and we got to make sure we support law enforcement and our military so we are safe at home and abroad. that's how we build a brighter future. >> moderator: that's one minute. elliott, closing statement. glasheim: my folks believed in franklin roosevelt saved their lives. my father was a small manufacture supporting people working for him and he every election season voted for a moderate republican. so i have looked at those
elements in my character and i think i'm exactly what the senate needs to be able to work across the aisle and get things done. unfortunately i am glad to hear hoeven say that he wants to work together. he has voted 90% of the time with mitch mcconnell and has been involved in the dysfunction of washington and not getting things done. i hope to incorporate democrat republican ideas. >> moderator: thanks to all of you for lively debate in thank you for watching republican aarp election of 2016. so long. ♪
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