Senator Bernie Sanders Discusses Election Results and Trump Presidency CSPAN November 17, 2016 9:28pm-10:26pm EST
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[laughter] probably not the best move. but anyway. thanks for coming. i'm david cook. our guest today is bernie sanders, senator from vermont and the new member of the democratic senatorial leadership his last visit in the group was june, 2015 and we appreciate him coming back and we are pleased jeanjean sanders is joining us s morning for our locale directed breakfast. he moved to vermont and worked as a carpenter and later as a writer and was elected the mayor in 1981 and served for four terms in the post and was elected as a member of the house and served until he won a seat in the senate in 2006 and was overwhelmingly reelected in 2012. the crowd around the table underscores that he made a
serious run for the 2016 democratic presidential nomination. nomination. the subject of the book "our new revolution a future to believe in." there were compelling ground rules always on the record here please, no live blogging or tweeting or filing of any kind while the breakfast is underway to give time to listen to what the guest has to say. we will probably end up 10:02, giving the lead start. to help, there are several pictures of the session to all the reporters here as soon as the breakfast ends and if you would like to ask a question please, do the traditional thing and send me a subtle signal and i will call on as many reporters as he can get to in the time that we have with the senator sr but one given the number of reporters here, i'm going to limit myself to one question and ask that we try to do so. i realize that it's probably helpful to make an opportunity
for some comments and questions around the table. but we begin by telling you just yesterday my office from vermont received many hundreds of telephone calls urging president elect trump to elect mr. brannon to be his advisor and i think that we see the fear about the president who in his career before he ran for president led the so-called byrd amendment
which was a racist efforts to undermine the legitimacy of the first president. there is great fear among the immigrant community that the families may be broken up and driven out of the country. there is fear of people of the muslim faith about what might happen to them. as i think everybody here knows, this country for hundreds of years struggled with issues of discrimination starting with our attitude towards the native american people. we have struggled with discrimination. that's been our history. and we have a right to be very proud. overcoming a lot of bigotry we moved forward to create a left
discriminatory society. and i will tell you having been around the country the last year, there is no generation that is less discriminatory than as the young generation today. i would hope very much that president elect trump understands the fear and anxiety of his attitudes on race and towards women and trying to make the american people feel more comfortable, and i hope you would do if i resending the nomination of mr. bannon. i have zero doubt that he
received the support of many working-class people across the country because some of the positions he took. he said he's not going to cut social security or medicare. he's not going to cut medicaid. i was glad to hear that and we look forward to working with him to make sure he doesn't cut social security, medicare and medicaid. he talked about raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour. it's better than $7.20 an hour and we look forward to working with him to raise the minimum wage. the point is during the campaign, he said a lot and we will find out soon enough whether what he said was sincere and whether he is prepared to take on the drug companies to charge us the highest prices in the world and move to reimportation and allow them to negotiate the prices.
he said a lot and our job is to hold him accountable. and we intend to do that. one more point i want to make an issue that gets a little discussion but it happens to be one of the great planetary crises that we face. mr. trump campaigned as somebody that believes climate change is a hoax. mr. trump is wrong. climate change is not a hoax. according to the scientific community, it is one of the great threats to this planet. and i would hope very much he is nobody's fool. he is a smart guy and i would hope very much that he recognizes that point of view that he has his way out of touch with what the scientific community believes. i would hope that he would bring scientists into his
administration and into his office and discuss the threat of climate change and they needed to transform our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable energy. the future of the planet to a significant degree rests on that because if the united states turned away from combating climate change, there is no reason to believe china, india, russia and other countries will not do the same so i would hope that he takes the time to listen to the scientific community and meet with them. >> i'm going to hold off on a question myself so we can go to the colleagues around the table. let's see who signed up so far. that's all for the morning.
andrea, do you want to start. >> than >> thank you. senator, welcome. you said last night in question that maybe you could have one against donald trump given the populist message and your message. do you think that you could have one as a general candidate and done well in the rest, and let me just follow by what do you think democrats need to do as a party now? >> there is a chapter on the corporate media and the essence of it is we have spent too much time on political gossip, too little time discussing the issues facing the american people. so it doesn't matter. i don't know if i could have one. who knows. but it doesn't make much sense
for me to be looking backward. right now this country faces enormous crisis. we have a middle class in decline and massive levels of income wealth inequality and a d a president who concerns many people by the way as all of you know i think by the time the last vote is counted will have lost the popular vote by perhaps as much as 2 million votes. i think it is time for soul-searching within the democratic party. the evidence is pretty clear that when you lose the white house an in a campaign against a gentleman who i believe will enter the white house as the least popular candidate in the history of the country. when you lose the senate and the house and yohouse and you lose f the states and governor chairs
in the country, when you have lost 90 900 seats and legislatus around the country in the last eight years, i think it is time for the democratic party to reassess what it stands for and where it wants to go. and i think at the end of the day, the democratic party has to make a fundamental decision. and it goes back to an old song of woody guthrie. some of you may have heard of him. it's which side are you on. and it is in my view, and i speak only for myself, not possible to be a candidate of corporate america. not possible to be a candidate of the insurance companies on wall street, not take huge amounts of money from the special interest and then say i'm going to champion the needs of a declining middle class. i'm going to champion and fight for the needs of working class people or low income people. i don't think you can do that.
and i think you have to make a decision to which side you're oe on and i think at the time when the middle class is shrinking and the 43 million people living in poverty, when you have moms out there that can't afford child care and you have millions of people getting ripped off by the pharmaceutical industry and we are the only major country on earth not to guarantee health care, it's the only country not to provide paid family and medical leave, we have more income and wealth inequality, ththe time is now the democratic party to say we are going to stand with the working families and we are taking on the billionaire class and wall street, we are taking on the insurance companies. that is my view. >> we are going to go to kevin who has a budget question. >> [inaudible] >> neither here nor there. but there is an organization that tries not to do the gossip. let's talk about the budget and
he will be the ranking member. what is your expectation and what can you do to slow down the process, if you're expectation that the corporate tax reform is going to be dynamically scored it sounds as if you parse the words that we are talking a mop trickle-down but the tax codes. >> donald trump ran one of the most unusual campaigns and try not to be a very successful campaign and he said many things to many people and one of the things just as i have heard in d the question is when he talked about ideas that will improve life by taking on the pharmaceutical industry or even to see some of us working with them but to answer your question
you are quite right. on the other hand, bu what he campaigned on and i will call it the trickle-down economic theo theory, getting huge, if i may use that word tax breaks to the wealthiest people in the country and to the largest corporations and then just magically in the essence all of these folks are going to reinvest in our economy and create jobs and we will see an increase in tax revenue and everybody lives happily ever after. it's a wonderful idea except it's never worked and i think it's a fraudulent idea so if the question is will many of us vigorously combat the idea of the economic theory giving tax breaks to the wealthiest people in the country in large profitable corporations from absolutely. i know we talk about tax reform. wow, it's a funny thing. as you know i've been running
around the country the last year and a half talking about the wealthy and large corporations and one day during the campaign, donald trump did more to educate the american people about the unfairness of the tax system than i did in a year and a half because he went before the american people and he said i have mentioned all over the world, i don't have to pay any federal income tax. and he told the american people just how unfair our tax system is. if i have anything to say about it, they will start paying their fair share of taxes an if we hae to move to prevent corporations not only in our country but from all over the world from costing the government all over this world trillions of dollars.
>> i would like to take the chapter. last time i checked you had 7 million or so followers on youtube and facebook and that sort of thing and does you no, there's been a discussion about big news on the site and in fact there was a story this morning that says in the final three months, the top performing news sites on facebook outperformed the stories on legitimate websites come in "new york times" and others like that. facebook is a 320 billion-dollar company in the larger then ge and wal-mart and a lot of american corporations. first, are you concerned about the fact and second, do you put facebook in this corporate media influence clucks >> that is a great question into the figures you gave should
concern all of us. i can't give you a definitive answer. am i concerned from absolutely. i have my concerns about the media that it is the point of view are raisin raising as a whe other area but there are millions and millions of people who are getting their information from fake news comes from people that have a very prejudice non- fact-based reality is of course frightening and i can't give you a magical answer to how we deal with it to run a democracy where you have a set of ideas you read on the internet that have nothing to do with reality in general but that is a scary thought. we can all argue the tax policy
that we start with a basic set of premises. if you start off with a set of facts that have no basis on reality than we have trouble, so i wish i could give you a better answer but it is something that we've got to think about. >> using it as an organizing influence are you exacerbating it? >> do we use it from absolutely. that's fake news, no. we take seriously what we put out. we use as an organizing tool, of course. >> if i were going to speak in california and we have the list of many thousands will the alert them to the fact i'm speaking and will we tell people some of the things i'm talking about, of course we will. i think that is a positive step.
>> we are going to go to kaitlyn. >> there's a lot of talk about who is the leader of the democratic party. do you consider your self to fill that role and also, if so, or if not, who is. and also are you planning to join the democratic party in the next election? >> i will let others determine. chuck schumer, i voted for him and i think that he is going to be doing an excellent job in a difficult environment. his job is to bring together the diverse points of view in the democratic caucus and if nancy pelosi is elected to the position or whoever is an equally difficult job. those are the leaders of the democratic party.
we don't know who the leader of the dnc will be. i am supporting keith ellison because as i mentioned a moment ago, i think it is time for the democratic party to reform itself to become a grassroots party to take on the big-money interests. and to your specific question, i was elected as an independent and i will finish this term as an independent. >> more on the new leader of the democrats in the senate. a very open question and then a more open one. what are your hopes and concerns as the leader of democrats and more pointedly, he's obviously got very deep ties to wall street and thinking. so if you could address that as well. >> when he can more than ably speak for himself, so i'm not going to speak and i'm sure you will have the opportunity to be chatting with him on all kinds
of subjects. chuck and i were in the house to go there. i knew him and we were both on the banking committee, the financial services committee. he is in the best sense of the word a good politician. he knows how to bring people together and how to seize the moment. his support plus i believe unanimous. for any leader whether republican or democratic, paul ryan has the same problem. how do you bring your diverse voices together and i think that he's probably the best qualified person we have to do just that. >> can you do a sentence or two on your new role as the outreach chair? >> that's what we are thinking about right now if anyone has any ideas let me know so i can figure it out. i just got this title yesterday so i can't give you a definitive.
but it is actually something that i look forward to doing. and here without offending anybody in the room, here is the real action transform america isn't going to take place on capitol hill. it's going to take place at the grassroots america on millions of people who are struggling right now mainly people concerned about the environment. and i initially understand my role to be to bring people in to demand the united states congress, government, the new presidenpresident represent thef all the people and not just the people on top. i'm excited about how we go about doing this. the voter turnout was 53, 54%,
which is low for us in recent years and much lower than other countries. why is it that tens of millions of people, poor people, working people, do not get involved in the political process? certainly one of the goals of that position is to bring people into politics and make people aware that it's not just election day. but the other 364 days a year are also important. if you are concerned about racism, homophobia, how do you get involved in the political process other than voting once every four years for president. that is one of the challenges i will be looking to tackle. >> [inaudible] >> thank you. i know that you are fond of what you call political gossip and you will give me a little
latitude on this. >> born in burlington and raised in middle very. [laughter] >> you talk at the outset about the appointment of mr. bannon in the white house. how do they handle the nominations and a supreme court nomination that they will probably oppose on balance. how should democrats oppose this. >> i think here are some of the areas that have to be taken into consideration. again, let me be very clear. i happen to think donald trump is a very smart person and he wouldn't have been elected president if he were not a smart person. and i would hope very much, and
also i have no doubt that in his way he loves this country. and i would hope very much that given his background and given what i consider to be the terrible things he said on the campaign trail, i would hope that he understands he has an extraordinary opportunity to say i said things come and again i don't say this as a criticism. he changes his views very often. you will know that. the american people would be anxious to hear him say what i said terrible things. i apologize. i am not going to be a president leading and his homophobic administration. i want to focus on the real issues facing the american people, many of which he touched upon during his campaign.
he talked about a collapsing working class in america. he's right. and we have to work together to address those issues. how do you create the millions of jobs that he said we needed to correct? we have to work together to do that. how do you correct the way just? we don't like obamacare and he won't go to my alternative which is the medicare for all single-payer program. i think that is the way we should be going. what is his idea? it isn't good enough to say i have an excellent idea. healthcare is fairly complicated. you have to go into the details on little bit more than saying he has an excellent idea. what is that? should we joined the rest of the world, how do you cover the cost of healthcare? he said during the campaign he was going to take on the pharmaceutical industry, which is a american people with the highest prices and i look forward to working with him.
if he's serious about addressing those important issues come it will be absolutely the right thing for him to do for so many reasons to forget about the racism, forget about the islamic phobia, forget about throwing millions of people out of this country. let's focus on the real issues that we face. announced he was running for governor against an investment banker. are you going to support complex data >> i know him a little bit and i think i ha i have a cold is goio be made but i do very much appreciate the efforts that he's made in new jersey. >> will you support complex >> i may very well. i have to talk to him. >> ted davis from cnn. >> i want to ask about one specific part of the trade. i know that he opposed a series of trade agreements and his contract with the american
voters he called for establishing tariffs to impose them on companies to discourage them from laying off workers. do you support imposing the tariff? >> he said among other things talking to the workers of the united technologies he said he is going to make sure those jobs stay in the united states if my memory is correct. i think it is high time that corporate america understand they cannot get the benefits of being american corporations while at the same time turning their backs on america's working class. my recollection, and they may not have that 100% right, but some years ago united
technologies have the resources to provide a severance package to its former ceo and yet they think they can save some money by shutting down the plant plann indiana moving to mexico and hiring people there for $3 an hour. i will do everything i can to stop those types of transactions and in that area, i look forward to working with him to tell corporate america you cannot keep running all over the world whether it is china or vietnam or god knows where searching for the cheapest possible labor where you destroy the working class in this country. so i do look forward to this and the tariff may well be one of those options. but i think corporate america, which is doing phenomenally well by and large they are making
huge profits and in a given year the corporations like general electric and others will not pay a nickel in the federal corporate tax is that it is absurd and if he has the guts to stand up to those corporations and demanded they start paying their fair share of taxes and demanded that they create jobs and protect jobs in america, he will have an ally with me. ..
absolutely, you are right. he has talked about reestablishing glass-steagall and i think that is a step forward. without going into great detail here, i am 11 of those who does believe that financial deregulation during the clinton administration which allowed commercial banks and investor banks and large insurance companies to merge created the pathway forward to the collapse of 2008. i strongly believe we should reestablish what we call a 21st century glass legal legislation.
>> here is the point. we are going to learn all of this in the american people are going to learn it pretty quickly. he set a whole lot of things. was he serious where were these just campaign slogans out there to gain some votes? >> look, the point that i want to make is that we will hold him accountable. that is a very important issue. the establishment of the 21st-century glass-steagall is something i believe in, i think millions of americans believe in it, and i would look forward to working with him and we will see whether he will keep his word and take on wall street in doing that. in terms of your other question, it would be almost beyond comprehension to think that a new president would be involved in the prosecution of his opponent who ended up getting some 2 million more votes than he did. we read about these things and we see these things in nondemocratic countries all over
the world. every year you will all report how and some country around the world they win the election and their opponent ends up in jail. this is the united states of america. we do not prosecute our political opponents and try to row them in jail. that would completely make it, completely divide this country. i hope very much mr. trump understands that is something he should not do. >> we go to josh greene from bloomberg. >> thank you. does the democratic party have a message that can reach working-class voters? in particular the white working last voters who have banned. [inaudible] >> that is exactly, it seems seems to me the democratic party, has to do. first of all, we have got to build on the current space.
we have to be extraordinarily supportive of women who are fighting among other things for their right to control their own health needs, who are fighting for equal pay for equal work, we have got to be closely aligned, continue to work as part of a coalition with the african-american community who have their very serious concerns about high unemployment rates and african-american communities. we have to continue working with latino who are under the gun with what, trump brought forth with his campaign. i should point out, the african-american communities in the latino communities is largely a working-class community, but of course we have to work with the white working class, as well. that means we have got to bring
forth which says we are going to raise the minimum wage to a living wage, in my view, $15. hour. that we say to women, whether they they are black or white or latino or asian american, you are going to get equal pay for equal work, that we are going to create millions of jobs with our infrastructure and you say to the white working class and the black working-class in the latino working-class that in today's world, in a competitive global economy, your kids have the right if they do wellin high school, they have the qualifications to go to a public college or university tuition free and we address the issue of healthcare in which so many white workers, black workers, latina workers all have healthcare costs. to answer your question, it's
not either/or, it is having an economic message and the sense that we will not allow the billionaire class in corporate america to get it all. we are going to rebuild the disappearing middle-class. one of the problems democrats have had, in my view, is they have made the point correctly that any objective assessment of the economy today, any objective assessment tells us that we are far far better than we were eight years ago when bush left office. no one can deny that. no one in the room can deny that unemployment is lower, the deficit is lower and were not on the minutes double world financial crisis. no one can deny that. on the other hand, the democrats too often have ignored that for 40 years we are better off than we were eight years ago under a democratic and republican middle-class. the middle class has been
shrinking. real wages have gone down. two mini people can afford healthcare or childcare or college tuition. the democratic party has got to address them. absolutely, i think we can create something that appeals to african-americans and latinos and women workers and that will bring people together. >> a little louder for people like me. >> you talked about the senate leadership election and there's been some grumbles about changes in house leadership and you are supporting a shakeup at the dnc. you support shakeup than house leadership as well.
>> i served 16 years in the house. i'm not there now and i will let the folks in the house make their own best decisions. at the dnc, again, i think here's the problem, i would hope that media would pay more attention to this very serious problem. as a result of citizens united, we have a situation as you all know where billionaires like the coke brothers and others can for unlimited sums of money into political campaigns through independent expenditures. in the very first chapter of the book, we deal with that. we deal with what i fear is a growing movement toward oligarchy in this country which not only impacts us economically
but it impacts as politically because billionaires can spend as much money as they want on campaigns. if anybody here thinks that does not have an impact, you would be mistaken. here's something else that worries me very, very much. for many republican leaders, citizens united did not go far enough. the coke brothers have always believed their goal is to eliminate all campaign-finance limitation and restriction. right now they can spend unlimited sums of money on expenditures and further. [inaudible] this is something that the dnc leadership are going to have to deal with, not only in opposing those outrageous undemocratic ideas, but in figuring out how we rally and bring the american people together at the grassroots level to make sure
money cannot buy election. >> i'm going to do quicktime check. it is 948. we will go to 1002. to 1002. we won't get to everybody, but let me show you the list as i have seen it so far. emily from newsweek, eric garcia from the hill and others. i will do the best we can. marissa from the. >> herb jackson from usa today. >> senator, looking forward to 2020 year and give me your thoughts on booker. >> i read one chapter of one book on corporate media. i think this is incredible. i have to say this with all due respect, we haven't inaugurated this president and were talking about 2020 because it's easy to write about. what about talking about climate change.
what about talking about income and wealth and inequality, what about talking about youth unemployment in african-american communities of 30, 40%. what about talking about immigration reform, criminal justice reform. those are the issues that the american people need to be engaged in. stop talking about who's going to be running in 2080. you look like a good candidate. maybe will run you. i don't mean to be rude, but the american people are tired of that, they really are. they would like to hear serious discussion on serious issues, who's running in 2020, or 2090 is of can serve. i have to tell you, people are turning off their tvs. they are tired of all that stuff. with all due respect, we have serious problems in this country and let's talk about the serious issues and not worry who's going to be running in four years when we haven't even inaugurated the president who just one. >> there is increasing pressure
members of the party for congressman altman to step down if he does win the chairmanship. is he able to be both a member of congress and the dnc chairman ? i know it's a little bit of a presumptive question, why is there pressure and discussion for him to not serve in those roles? >> well look, i think it's no great secret that i tell you debbie wasserman schultz was not an outstanding chair of the democratic party, but it wasn't because she's a sitting member of congress. i think we have a lot of precedents in the past for dnc leaders to be governors, to be full-time public officials. on the other hand, the the argument is a valid argument, but especially now it is a very time-consuming job. the ways to deal with them is to have the kind of staff that you
need, the kind kind of executive director that you need to handle a whole lot of administrative work that has to be done. so, to answer your question, do i think that keith can remain a united states congressman and do the job? i do. but, it is incumbent upon the new chair, whether, whether it's keith or anybody else to put together a really dynamite. i think the second part of your question is, is this issue suddenly being raised. i don't think it was suddenly being raised when debbie took the job. i think this is just a way for his opponent. i think this is a way for his opponents to try to criticize him and end up supporting somebody else. i am pleased that keith has one support not just from progressives like myself or
elizabeth warren, i should tell you that getting back to social media, my recollection is that more than 500,000 people have signed a position and he has one support from people like chuck schumer and harry reid. i think he has pretty broad support and he knows it. >> going backwards, if if you don't mind, have you spoken to secretary clinton in the past week, and what role do you believe she should play in rebuilding the party. period she did win the most popular vote. do you believe the criticism of pate speeches played a role? >> know, at the end of the day, i think my candidacy, to answer your last question, was helpful to her if we believed that candidates should not be anointed, if we understand the
republicans had 17 or 19 candidates. i think a heated issue oriented campaign, one in which i'm happy to say my campaign brought millions of people into the political process, the vast majority of whom ended up voting for hillary clinton, i think it played a very positive role. >> she had a very important role to play. she was the democratic nominee for president of the united states. it goes without saying that she has a very important role to play in the future of the democratic party. does that mean that she and i are going to agree on every issue? frankly we are not going to agree on every issue but her voice is important certainly needs to be heard.
>> i had a conference call but i wasn't involved personally. >> i know donald trump elections essentially killed ttp which you support. do you support reinstating nafta and other trade agreements? >> i think we have a very large trade deficit. i think the evidence to me is clear, maybe not every member of the chamber of congress agrees but the evidence to me is that we have lost millions of jobs as a result of the trade relations with china. you are right, i have been a leader in the opposition of ttp and i'm glad it is dead. if your question is do i believe we have to rethink our trade policies, i do. i'm not here to say that if i ever thought trade in of itself is bad. trade is a good thing.
we sit down and buy something, and we are essentially trading. i think trade is a good thing, but we need trade policies that work for the american worker and not just for the ceos of large multinational corporations. to answer your question, yes, yes, i think we should take a hard look at all of our trade policies and come up with a different set of proposals based on fair trade, trade which is fair to american workers. people in other countries, not just unfettered free trade which has been a disaster for millions of american workers. >> jen from the american wall street journal. >> you spoke about the many areas of potential agreement between you and donald trump. there is another school of thought that democrats should be more confrontational and flat-out oppositional to trump following the way mitch mcconnell and the republicans dealt with obama.
could you speak to that? >> i think, as i've indicated, there are areas where, from my perspective, there can be no compromise. i will not compromise with racism and i will not compromise with sexism and or homophobia or islam a phobia. in a democracy, what is deeply ingrained in all of us in all of the american people is the understanding that on many of the policy issues we have discussed, honest people have different points of view. there are different points of view on trade. i do not think the people are terrible people, terrible human beings because they disagree with fair trade. that is their view. that's called democracy. that is a good thing, but there are areas that i would've hoped that in the year 2016, we would have put behind us, and that is to say that we treat people with the quality, that in the year 2016, we are not point to discriminate against somebody
because that person is a muslim or that person is a woman or that person is gay. i would have hoped that in the year two we have gone beyond that because those are battles that have been one already and i will not retreat on those issues. on the other hand, donald trump comes up with an idea or program which he campaigned on that says that our infrastructure is crumbling, that we can create millions of jobs rebuilding our infrastructure and put people back to work with decent wages, yes i will work with them. if he comes up with his consistent views that our trade policies have failed american workers and we need to rethink our trade policies, yes yes i will work with him. i think, the other area that i will fight him to the nail is this issue of climate change which we have got to focus much more attention on. the future of this planet is at stake.
we have got to bring together people, the demand that mr. trump listen to the scientists, not not the fossil fuel industry. >> you four minutes left. last question from eric garcia. >> senator sanders, there's a lot of talk about the fact that a third of those who voted for president obama went for mr. trump. a lot of people in michigan and ohio didn't, they voted on down ballot. they didn't vote on president. as democratic outreach, they say they want to get more people involved and out to vote. four democrats are up for reelection in pennsylvania, michigan, ohio, wisconsin are up in 2018. a, do you think they have enough appeal to be able to win reelection, and b, you, you talk a lot about the things that they
do to appeal to those voters. >> i think the answer is, i'm not into speculation, i don't know what is going to happen in two years, but what i believe, and i have believed it from day one, is that the progressive vision of america which is to say that if you work 40 hours a week in this country you have to earn a living wage. i think when you talk about that, when you talk about pay equity for women and you talk about creating millions of jobs by rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, when you talk about joining the rest of the industrial world and looking at healthcare as a right, when you talk about demanding that the wealthy and large corporations start paying their fair shares of taxes so we address income
and wealth inequality, when you talk about creating millions of jobs by transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel into energy efficient, to answer your question, if those those candidates run on those issues, yes, they will win. >> i want to thank you for coming in mr. sanders for joining us. i look forward to having you back. thank you. >> think you'll,. [inaudible conversation]
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