tv Open Phones with Representative John Lewis and Andrew Aydin CSPAN November 18, 2016 12:14am-12:49am EST
greater respect for the dignity and the works of every human being. >> host: joining us live from the national book festival is congressman john lewis and his co-author here is the book march, of book three nominated for a book award what period of time discovered? >> is of my own involvement of the american civil-rights movement.uest: th
is started right after the march on washington the bombing of the church in birmingham that took place a timber 151963. the assassination of president kennedy and the beginning of the selma movement in the freedom summit of 63 through 65, as some of the most dramatic times of the civil-rights movement there was so much violence. khmer were so many beatings and people were murdered but they never gave up forgave than. 8.of sorrow but also a period of hope of people
believing and hanging in there people not so young black people are white people coming together we witnessed the passage of the civil rights act, a voter rights act. >> host: by any graphic novel form greg. >> we were trying to reach another generation. they are digital native so they speak and that is hell bandstand information so i was a comic and when he told me about the mud every story published 1957 and i found out it was edited by martin luther king, jr. himself using to inspire some blacks of disobedience it was
self-evident we had to do it >> host: hot for those of you in the mountain and pacific time zones. it is not for phone calls it is for text messages only 202- 202-808-6251. please include your first name >> host: congress milles milles, talking about "march" book three" in the african-american museum opening today. >> guest: this tells a powerful story of the opening of the museum, the history of african-americans from the days of slavery through the present.
i had an opportunity and i cried. even today i shed some tears . the museum is the front porch of america. in reverse sitting there on the front porch of the nauseam and one of the reason stockholm huang negative we insisted that african-americans would come on a saturday afternoon on the front porch of the house of their homes. and i think this museum will be visited by hundreds of thousands of millions of
america from around the world it is not just a story of african-american of but the american story. stories of pain. >> host: andrew aydin how do you consider today into context quick. >> i served in his congressional staff know of a decade one of the things i have seen how simply doesn't look at things as a short-term objective but always has the long view. sometimes long-term projects all come together on a single day. so to see the natural museum of african-american history open on a day that he goes to the national book festival in talk about another project is educating everyone on what happened and how what happened during
the civil-rights movement, that is a part of his dna and his mission because if we don't understand what happened, we cannot understand the politics of today. read the time everybody thought it was a long shot to get the museum passed through the congress but the / it was a long shot to do we graphic novel but here we are on a single day to show those long radius can work can change this country. >> host: what is your background? probably not the same as in is. >> he has been my congressman since i was three years old. in atlanta. my father was an immigrant to came to this country and left my mother when i was very young. that is how i got into common books i was a little bit of a rabble rouser.being
but to see how they were treated in the '70s and '80s you cannot help but ask yourself what can i do to make it better so other people don't have to watch their parents suffered. that develop my own social consciousness and made me want to be a part of service . i wanted to be a part of the p national conversation so other parents would have been a little bit easier. no better person to work for that is your golden john lewis. >> host: congressman lewis in your book "march" book three" wallace n. johnson did you ever sit down with george wallace? >> guest: after governor wallace was a long beard governor i had an opportunity to sit down with him and talk with him. he heard that i would be in montgomery outside of a
little town named troy where i grew up and we had a wonderful discussion.ussion. and became to the point talking about what happened on selma in the bridge 1965. and i asked him, governor why did you give the order for the troopers to stop us quicks he said john, if there were other people ons the oversight of the bridge that would kill you but you almost killed them to keep somebody else to kill them and they had a right to march in an orderly and peaceful and nonviolent fashion.nonviole he said i did not mean for them to hurt you. he said i love everybody.
i have all lot of white friends and again i had an opportunity so i decided to take the members of congress back to alabama to montgomery in selma and birmingham and his son said governor wallace was at home in his bed, he was paralyzed want us to come by to see him. he was laid up in his bed smoking a cigar watching tnt . we walked in and some members were reluctant to shake his hand but i just grabbed him by the hand in said hello governor howard you? good to see you then they all came into shaky is hand. >> host: we will hear from
our callers. virginia, the book is "march" book three". >> caller: mr. lewis said is wonderful to get to see a hero in rome living time period and thank you for everything that you do for civil-rights and rights in general. to questions. so what your concerns about donald trump's presidency your your main concern? if he were to be elected? less than a democrat michael life i am 64 years old. i don't feel like i have love voice in my partyy because of the abortion issue. is there something that you see that can help women not
have to go through that tragic election. >> host: i think we got the first part of the question of the donald trump and presidency. >> guest: first of all, adults think he is qualified . i think he has said meanspirited intake is back to another period.. i think this presidency will divide america we have come so far making so much progress and we must tell make progress to erase the burden of the vision to create one community, '01d family ended doesn't matter black or white or latino or asian. we all live in the same house in the american house. the world house and must learn to live together as brothers and sisters.
>> host: andrew aydin what about the kneeling during the "star spangled banner"? >> guest: what we are seeing is other people taking part as well he has inspired something. something is happening in america when we started "march" almost jokingly we said all this happened before it will happen again. we had no way to know how right we were but he is a key part to bring non violence and civil disobedience or protest to young people to be that reinforcements we're trying to show that young people are the driving force in many ways of the civil-rights movement and the key component to push some of the most important reforms. and if he is able to inspire young people to speak up and
speak out then he does the nation agrees service, -- a great service. >> host: next caller go ahead. >> caller: did is an honor to talk to miami student at maryland our president is very involved in the civil rights movement my question for you in is what did vicee do you have for people who are involved with the blacknv lives matter movement? >> guest: i know your president a wonderful young man he was very much involved in the city n birmingham of what i like to call the children's crusade. and to be involved in the black lives matter of movement it doesn't matter if they are black or white. when you see something that is not right to or not fair
they have a moral obligation to do something about it. but the peaceful organize non-violent actions to speak up and speak out i would ask about segregation and racial discrimination to say don't get in trouble that is the way it is. but good trouble andss unnecessary trouble with the obligation and the responsibility. >> host: august 6th 1965. >> i was invited to me privately the morning before the voting rights act signing ceremony. my first visit to the lighthouse since the marchth on washington in my first one on one visit with the president. you have to go back to get all those folks registered and get them just like the
boll gets on top of the cow you have to get them by the balls and squeeze. squeeze them until they heard is that a direct quote from president johnson? >> guest: president johnson was very colorful. unbelievable he spoke very plain and simple sometimesso you would listen to him and smile or laugh but he wanted to be respectful to the president of the united states. but he was making it plain and clear to go out to do justice and that is what we tried to do was get everybody registered to vote.ul . .
black and white, latino, asian-american, native american, the vote is precious. it is the most powerful nonviolent tool that we have in the nondemocratic society. it's go to the vote. [inaudible] just go to the polls and vote. that will be the best march we can have at this time. >> do you have a sense of optimism about race in the country going forward?he >> guest: i am very optimistic, very hopeful that we are going to lay down the burden of racing people create what doctor king called a beloved community with a dignity for every human being.
and we will get there. we will serve as a model for the rest of the world. i truly believe sometimes people tell me come and walk in my shoes and i will show you change. >> host: elizabeth in denver colorado. >> caller: it is truly an honor. my mother lived in mississippive during the time of emmett held, and i know that i don't have to explain that to you. i would like to know what advice you have for the young people today that are struggling with the all of the police violence because it's hard for them they feel disenfranchised. >> guest: thank you so much. i tell you i grew up in rural
i didn't realize he was killed on august 28. was there a connection between that and the fact that march on washington was august 28? >> guest: i believe some of the planners and some of thepeoe people who had a date in mind. it was the beginning of the montgomery bus boycott and rosa parks and several people asked what are you doing and she said she couldn't get up. she said i also thought about what happened to emit hill. >> host: next one from troy alabama. >> guest: hello, jesse, how are you. >> caller: i like what you're
doing and appreciate what you're doing. my question is what do you think about what is going on in charlotte and the other places that police brutality. >> thank you so much for your call. call. i'm upset about what happened in charlotte north carolina and other parts of the country that the police officers and young people and all of us must come together and talk to each other, never hate each other. we need more of what i call community policing. maybe police officers along with young people and maybe people not so young should study the way of peace and love and during
the 60s i was arrested and jailed, beaten and left bloodied but i never gave up. i never became bitter and when e see the police officers, whether they are african-american, white, latino, asian-american, always say thank you for your service. they are there to protect us. it was easy to see the demonstrators in charlotte north carolina shaking hands andin hugging the national guardsmen. >> host: how old are you, in your 30s? >> caller: yes. >> host: so you didn't live during the era of the march. >> caller: note. >> host: when you think about what's going on in this period of the history, what are your thoughts? >> guest:
>> caller: there is a bright light in the fact that we are seeing many of these killings. i don't think they are happening in isolation or that they just started. i think they've been happening for quite some time but because of the ubiquitous nature we were able to record these incidences and they can't be swept under the rug anymore.ru first we have to acknowledge that they are there and then we can have a national conversation around it. it. my hope is that it will spur the organizing and protesting and action on the part of our elected officials.el for me, growing up in the congressman's district and in florida, i heard about the civil rights movement, but i never had the opportunity to hear of the story othestory of the young pet and so, what i was constantly trying to do is make them meaningful and important so that i could understand the sacrifice
that it took to get the progress that they achieved. >> host: we have another call from a city john lewis is connected to and this is bill in atlanta. a >> caller: looking back all these years getting you elected on talk radio, i'm glad it turned out the way that it did as it would have happened afterwards and you know what i'm talking about. but the fact of the matter is it's not almost sacred, it's a sacred. we as a nation there is no question about it there may bebe multiple parties but there's only one god and if you are not serving truth and justice, one is not serving god.
>> host: this is a text message from liz in new york city. a few words? >> guest: i met her years ago. she was a brave and courageous woman. she came to congress on the agricultural committee and represented brooklyn. she served well and she tried help get food for starving people in the south and rural america and virginia and the ple kentucky, all over the place. she was the first woman to get out there and get a name on the ballot. let's take another call we have time for another and of course
i've lost my place in this technology. i will work my way back when i'm trying to find where we are on the phone. >> caller: when i booted up the computer all of a sudden i had all these messages and i got a request for comment and i was like what are these people talking about so finally they had to look at the website and i was like what just happened and that's how i found out and i got the call. >> host: and you will be in new york for the ceremony? >> guest: i think so. we should be there. if we are finalists, we will be
there. we don't have a day job but for something like this we will leave and make it to new york. >> host: calling in fromom texas, hello. >> caller:, congressman, i would just like to ask am question. i'm originally from chicago, lived here 70 years in fact my uncle built the original chicago stadium where fdr gave his inaugural. my question is, i seem chicago deterioratedeteriorated to the t it's embarrassing to the nation. i lived in texas for 12 years now, however, my question to you is what happened to the morality of the blacks in america? there are so many beautiful like you and so many including the president whospresident whose hy never mentioned that. whoever mentions the fact that deterioration of the family and
what's the excuse for that?or you have all the people they are the congressional representatives, oprah winfrey who made their way in chicago. how do you explain that and i've only ask one other -- >> host: lets you the answer to that question. >> guest: many african-americans in chicago and the other major urban centers in the small town all acrossng america are doing very, very well. but some are left behind. we must see all of our citizens are lifted up and they have the gracdegrees and support to move
ahead but we must see that all of our children receive the best possible education and good health care. >> host: i am a history teacher in richmond virginia. i taught civil rights using your book. it is an excellent resource. i like students know that this was a movement by young people. what else do we need to do to combat youth apathy? >> guest: i think we have to help young people ask the fundamental questions they were asking during the movement. i like to ask students when we go to the schools and communities what would doctor king post, how would they use these tools? in a sense i meet for a livingpe but they have the capacity to organize on a scale never before seen on the face of this planeto
so if we can put them in the context of what these great leaders had to go through and then ask them how would they use the tools of today to achieve the same results, that empowerment will help them feel it's not out of touch or out of reach and dissent something that should be available to them.o t. they have the capacity and the necessity and they must act. >> guest: i think it's important for young people to understand, read my story but also come in and visit places all across america. come to the african american museum and walk through these pieces of history. they should be inspiring and say if another generation can do with people that i can make a contribution.
i was deeply inspired by rosa parks and martin luther king jr.. i met rosa parks when i was 17 and i met martin luther king jr. when i was 18, president kennedy when i was 23 and worked in bobby kennedy's campaign. all these people have made me a persothe person that i am today. >> host: you have a lot of people here at the national book festival watching you right now. we saw a bunch of young people here as well.he what do you tell them? >> guest: i would say good to see you, thank you for being here. and i'd say i love you both stay in school, get the best possible education that you can get. be hopeful and optimistic and happy. john lewis, and nate paul as the
illustrator nominated for a national book award. book three, they pretend to others in graphic novel form.. by the way for a longer conversation with congressman lewis, booktv sat down with him for three hours on our in-depth program so if you go to the webe website, booktv.org and type in representative john lewis and include the word book, otherwise you'll ge get all sorts of vides from the archives, include the word book and we sat down for three hours and talked about all these other books as well. thank you for being with us on booktv. >> guest: thank you.
at the 67th national book awards held wednesday night in new york city, the nonfiction prize scholar for his book stamped from the beginning the definitive history of racist ideas in america. earlier this year he took part in a panel on race in america at the end of this book festival. this is just under an hour. >> good afternoon. my name is isaac and i will serve as the moderator for