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imagine what you're saying to bring about real political equality for native people. i don't know. i agree with you that if that's possible, it's a long way out. it's a really long-term project. it's going to require breaking down the systems that the united states dominant society is bound by this midget you case in --thh miseducation, that is constructed american society. so on the one hand, that has to be deconstructed and reconstructed. that's like mind boggling huge project. and so that's one piece of it. .. but the big problem in my opinion, the way the system is
comes down to legal system. the legal system still controlled by domestic nations and the trust doctrine, you know, those construct our reality. i mean, we are still living as dominative people and is because of the legal system. so that has to change and -- and then we have to be able to imagine new kinds of political relationships like what is our political -- if we are not domestically dependent nations, what is our political relationship to the united states and, you know, we are in the beginning stages of qu >> this. >> is only aspiration all
one of with not even a treaty barite now what is i happening in has elevated eleva the conversation to the general assembly who is working with the indigenous people to come up with the way to represent them with the u.n. general assembly. we d' and for them to have actual representation. and and how to implement a separation that is almost tenures one -- 10 years. with all of these violations all over the overall but there is no way to monitor. thee it is all the different angles that they have to be
addressed. there is no real clear answers right now. >> i think i am more optimistic.>> i t than you are, about the time scale. as paid historian end to be pretty old imc in an witnessed auctions places like alcatraz and wounded knee and the civil-rights movement. remember at that time, lowed african-americans were not allowed to vote.n, it' so it is indicative. but native americans got citizenship in 1948 without
asking for it. but i was inspired by a navajo scholar. maybe we will ask him to explain. [laughter] a hint and i'll give you a hint of what i am talking about. i don't even know if it is a published paper but a paper that jennifer sent to me. this was several years ago. and this talks about a path to nationhood. and this is very well documented. and said what time are we talking about? he said 50 years.
the independent not donation . -- navajo nation. [laughter] for. >> for when i first started in the academy little over two years ago but it is just one person's perspective want of any native nation and what that would look like in a sense of where we have been with our history and where we are at. so with an article that was published in the american indian quarterly, but that meant version is very
modified. >> i like that version. >> said do i. [laughter] so not anything in terms of publication but it that is where i think that the native people think about what nationhood really means one for us that is definitely taking place right now. with all of the allies there in terms of them wanting toin protect not only our water but the way of life and it is going much faster than i think a lot of us are envisioning but some view it as too slow. someone to it by tomorrow
but with the enormous amountose of native people in general. that this type of vision from what it is expected of us with our way of life that is taking place in many itaces. >> i also want to acknowledgement my primary mentor in the studiese program and i am here today largely because of her one. [applause] >> thanks for taking part in the of conversation now we can move forward with a
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. she has won four emmys in this position and also serves on the of board of the university of miami and other organizations.lease please welcome jackie nespral to introduce dana perino. [applause] >> good morning. having a good time so far? is an honor to introduce our next guest who is aa wonderful offer girl power.e ma, dana perino the first woman to serve as press secretary for republican president if you read her resonate you would know better as a cue to accomplish it whenever your the first of anything one of the most popular host on fox a best-selling authorox.
and now has another book called t11 that has millions of followers on social media is there anything she cannot do?that i so with her major pedigree she knows what she once and will not settle for anything until she gets it. she is just as comfortable wearing a pair of boots as pumps that she is wearing today. she complained once that there brno could single men in washington d.c. so rather than settle she importerer husband from britain. that is in the story she metot him on a flight but we do have a friend in commonn ploys a white house correspondent and he told me that her in her husband are one of the most grounded genuine people you'll ever meet twitches a testament to her good judgment. and she really, really really loves her dog so much
she wrote a book about america's dog with friends and family and politics should soleil 5-foot 2 inches she says she is actually 5 feet but a true giant in the media landscape ladies and gentlemen, dana perino. [applause] >> thanks for having me. >> is up pleasure nothing is going on in the world of politics. >> absolutely nothing. >> but let's talk about the book because before jaspererbeca there was henry and he helped you through a difficult time. >> banks for coming today itmu is the pleasure to be here i
was here in 2010 because i did the publicity tour for george to be bush and his book decision points and never imagined i would have an opportunity to be here as an author myself i am grateful for the opportunitydy and everybody came this morning.so henry was my first t20 the first dog by on as an adult has spent and i got him in scotland it is to read that my husband on a plane and we moved to england rebuilt wanted to dog we did not even know about vizla we found out about them in switzerland and i felt him love with these stocks. so when i wrote this book because i am not a natural long form writer the purse book was then the good news is that there was a chapter about dogs.
i wanted so much to include that part of my life in the book but needed to cut it down so i gave back the dog chapter editor said i promise one day there will be a dog book. so in writing this one thing he has made with a first draft is more. remember when the teacher would write that? more. what does that mean? dig deeper and share more. realize with henrik is i was 26 when i got him working on capitol hill and was married . i was married at a fairly young age for my group in non -- i did not even meet george w. bush we live inft san diego three years that i come back to washington and with the justice departmenth tht
and then end up as the white house press secretary. then we move from there to york i work on a show called "the five" for fox news and henry was with me so when you have a companion like that a loved one or i dog it kept as grounded but we have such a good strong marriage is we have found this shared affection for our pets and most people feel we that way about their dog 67 percent of household pet and in terms of finding commonn ground with people who might not want to talk to republican like in manhattan. [laughter] when i go to the dog park in central park i have rules inav the book fourth humans and
dogs. dogs cannot sit down and humans cannot talk about work or politics. my husband was arrested. [laughter] these are photoshop. this was henry and he was arrested eventually after walking him awfully shin he got a ticket the story is funny because the over criminalization is something you hear from right and the left this is a good example of the ticket was a bureaucratic nightmare note address to send to pay he tried three times a this u.s. point new lead united states census -- citizens as i will have my day in court to settle think that is a good idea. , britain and america have a lot of similarities but the legal system is not one of the manchurian laugh we went into operation clean slate
that he hadn't tired date including leg shackles at p one point i was the acting press secretary he knew he'd have found i know my rights and get one phone call and officer smith did it went to bed he said no my rights and he calls the white house. he was not like get beyond of jail he wanted to let me know to hire the dog walker because henry would be home all day by himself. [laughter] i am the oval office though he said would you like me to interrupt her? he said no. not a good idea. there is a period that was quiet so i checked my blackberry and ecl message that says peter called he said you might want to get the dog walker to come this morning and probably in thein
afternoon and i thought of at church has been arrested. i knew that he spent an entire day he almost had to spend the night because it was so late but finally when he saw the judge he apologized said he never should have been here he held up is manacled lake inset i have had the interesting insight into the u.s. judicial system. sold the illustrator created these mug shots. >> mount rushmore? that is classic. >> we will scroll through these on the screen. [laughter] social media can be a menace . there is something wonderful i met an artist through twitter.itter. we became friendly because i tend to over share about my dog on the show and social media.
this artist got a kick outis of jasper whereas one shorter year than the other very expressive dog and he would photoshop into different themes so one daywerel on-line "the five" we were talking about bay watch them later that day was jasper as david hasselhof if -- of david hasselhof. my. [laughter] i love the reaction this is jasper waterskiing but what i think is funny is in many of the up pictures before there was a book there were no clothes. i told the artist we might want to make this a little more family friendly so he added these and megan kelly told me for some moseys pitchers so much that he takes the book to bed with
him at night. jasper came to us eight months after removed to new york can be passed away when we were in new york and i write about that if you have a pet you have been through this page 53 get out your kleenex. and greta called me thater night at 10:00 p.m. if your phone rings at 10:00 you know, it is not good news she said i heard about henryd ut any think it is impossible but something you need to do right away is get another dog. i had 101 reasons why we could not. forty-six floors of saudi potty trained a puppy in an apartment? there is an entire chapter it is hilarious we get right there was a long blade of grass and the neighborhood but today's later you get to go to the studio and it is fast pace in hair and makeup and talk to people but peter
works from home. i was called one of those days in the afternoon and i realized it was silent and peter works from home internationally so he doesn't meet anybody. so he needed that companionship as much as i did so we called a breeder w that we knew who had taken care of henry when we were traveling and said i had a feeling you would be calling me.ng you'd we have a liquor board next week and will be ready for pick up to an fifth and that is when we got him. >> so we have been talking this is a strange election and jasper has really helped to bring people together with the different points of view. >> talk about social media interaction lot of people follow me at don't talk
politics with them onn facebook instagram i don't't do any act all but i try to connect in a way with my dogs. sometimes i get home from the show maybe it is stressful or controversial and i look on twitter or facebook people send pictures of their daughter i would post about jasper they would get a kick out of it and it took the edge off. certainly that the dog park that is always fun because they say no politics and other times social media can be a tough place.on bal melania trump said one platform she would like to have this cyberbullying because even as an adulty. adult, can be affected and it gave me insight what younger people or parents of younger people go through because when we were kids ifhr you were bullied at least you could go home as a safe place but if your life is on
this device you always see it you can never get away. but jasper cannot read, i don't think so i would find the way to use the dog sometimes i would just flood got him. >> and "and the good newsok is" was a best-seller. i knew you had a segment in the book that you included so how did that come about and the timing of the book you are one week after the election came sure people want to talk politics and now you have a book about your dog. >> guest: that's true. the first book said it was still also had to cut something and "and the good news is" is pretty tightly written i could get about 1,000 words taken out but i felt bois for the mentoringin
i did not want to cut anything with the stories of george w. bush walked -- working behind the scenes are hard to take out these story? the dog chapter was 9500 so i went in and said you could have a dog chapter back he said there would be a dog book one day and when they told me the publication date was october 25 of 2016 is a are you sure?? nobody will pay attention and the publisher said people will need something to be different and not political in the think they. were right the response has been good if it's in your times best-seller list even with my book signings so far michigan california wyomingr frm all over florida yesterday i think three people last may about politics.t some people brought theirr dogs i brought this one.
this is felt jasper. [laughter] thinthing that is amazing that people people together but people send me amazing perhaps the woman who makes this should take a photograph of him and will hand make this so i take it with me because i cannot take jasper everywhere and i do feel that it is their love of dogs to show me they are grateful for my presence and they appreciate what i have done as a public servant yesterday a woman wrote jaspers name in chinese calligraphy. somebody commissioned a painting for me from a great artist in chicago and now hangs in our home.
all sorts of things. he does have a way to bring people together. [laughter] >> she says is that true?eghan spirit you are press secretary at such a young age with the voice of the administration how much pressure was that at such a young age to have the worldd looking at you at that precise moment listening to your every word? >> looking back i feel i had the job as press secretary at the right time. even six months before but have then a stretch for me. do you remember tony snow before me i was his principal deputy the day before he left the white house he asked me to come to his office and said how o redoing?
i said not very good because i was happy to be behind the scenes edges don't know howsupp blake can fill your shoes you're so good at the podium i am not feeling up to what he said stand-up and i am only five football and he is 6-foot 5 inches he put his hands of the shoulders andy shook me and said you are better than you think your. two weeks later i was finishing briefings the president had not gotten madad at me i had been the deputy for so long that might be some advice is always take the deputy job that is how you know, how to do thehe main job. and i realize this is what he meant i don't have to be just like kem as the white house press secretary i can be myself. if i did it over again i would be so much better
because i didn't have the tv experience that i have had i do think it would have been a better press secretary in terms of ability to communicate. cbs news instal of statistics and mark did account that tony snow average white house briefing was 42 minutes and mine was 21. i would get in and get out. >> what advice do you give the new press secretary when they are named greg. >> there is a great fraternity we all get along there is a shared understanding of what it is like to stand at the podium to take the questions for t the press and advocate not just of president but the media's access to the government which is an important part of the job. so to make sure you have
s in >> that didn't work out for me, and i made some choices to not continue this local news, but to go and work on capitol hill as a spokesperson. so by the time i start as a contributor to fox in those first two years after the administration, i realized that i still felt like a spokesperson for somebody else. i was either speaking on behalf of president bush or the administration trying to explain decision making, trying to hold that legacy intact. and then when i started on "the five," i realized that, oh, they
don't really care what george w. bush thinks about this. they want to know my personal opinion. and i have to say, that was actually pretty scary for me. sometimes i felt like i was on a high wire without a net. and sometimes i realized i didn't even know what my personal opinion was about something. my whole life had been about speaking on somebody else's h behalf, because who cared what i personally thought as the press secretary? i wasn't the decision maker. and i really give a lot of credit to the executives at fox news, the producers and my colleagues, my co-hosts, because they helped draw me out and toto show a little personality. and sometimes i'm funny, sometimes i can be quite serious and sometimes i'll just have to admit that i don't know. i remember the first time i was asked about my feelings about legalization of marijuana, and i started to say what i would have said about president bush's thoughts about it. and i stopped, and i thought, oh, wait, i don't, i don't know
what i think. [laughter] you're going to have to give me a little bit of time to think about it, and i still feel conflicted on that issue. my instinct was, no. no legalization of drugs because i was a kid that really believed in the just say no campaign. when i saw that egg on a skillet and that was your brain on drugs -- [laughter]on i did not do them, and i was terrified to get in trouble. i still am. even at the white house, the president if he called me into the white house, the first thing he would say is tell her there's nothing wrong. [laughter] and the head of fox news now says the same. i need to talk to you and everything's okay. [laughter] because i don't like to get in trouble. but "the five" has given me a chance to just show some personality, and this is kind of like a psychiatric session, isn't it? [laughter] i think that jasper was a little bit of that buffer for me to be able to connect with people in a way that maybe i was a little bit reticent to give my own
personal opinions or somethingo or to just be so public. about me. these, the job now is actually in a way much more public-facing and personal than when i was white house press secretary, because that really is -- you are speaking on somebody else's behalf, not your own. and the dog maybe gave me a little bit of a buffer and a chance without having to be so personal. >> i get it, i get it. what's next for you? [laughter] because, i mean, you've authored books, press secretary for the president of the united states -- >> yeah, and i just had a chance to do election coverage for fox news not just on "the five," but on those big primary nights and debate nights, bret baier, megyn kelly, tucker carlson, who i adore --ll, steve
>> who has a new show now. >> yeah, and juan williams. that's a tight-knit group, and we worked a lot of hours, a long time. truly, jackie, that's what i always wanted to do when i was a kid.jat' i started out in wyoming and colorado, and when i was in third grade, my dad had me read the rocky mountain news and denver post before i got home from -- before he got home from work, and i had to choose two articles to discuss before dinner. that really started my interest in news. what i really wanted to do my whole life was be on a sunday show talking about news of the day. i loved it when i would watch george will when i was a kid. he doesn't think that's very. funny.s a very [laughter] [inaudible conversations] >> you're doing it five days a week. >> now i am. and the way i describe my life right now is one full of gratitude. i sign my books joy and gratitude, or joy or gratitude, however, depending on how many people are in line and i've gota
to move them through. but i describe my career right now as my plate is full with als of my favorite foods. the only thing i think i need tk do right now is maybe take a food off, because it -- >> and what would that be? >> -- has been a wild couple years. i think i won't do another book for a while. although i do love the writing process as well. i'm a voracious reader as well. i can't wait to dive into the pack of books. i saw one of the other authors here at the miami book fair who wrote "rules of civility" which i loved, i loved that book, and now i get to be friends with him, which is so fun. he wrote a new book, and it's called "a gentleman in moscow." and i have been about 50 pages in for three months. so one of the things i really feel like i need to do is read more fiction. i read a ton of news, but i do believe that reading books opens that creativity part of your mind, helps you understand other people, helps you understand history.
for example, i read "the nightingale" which i adored, "all the light we cannot see," and a lot of the characters in there, what they're going through in times of political transition and turmoil helps me understand what some people might be feeling now. if you're unhappy about the election result or exuberant about the election result, you can actually understand that through reading more fiction. i truly believe that. the one thing i will figure out how to do is read a little bit more and take a step back. i would like to write another book in the future, but i'm going to spend some time letting that percolate and maybe not do it in an election year again. >> no. [laughter] that's a lot on your plate, that's for sure. >> that was one of the pictures we had to add clothes for. [laughter] >> we're going to open up the floor to some questions, but before we do that, i just wanted to ask you something else because we have seen a lot of protests going on, many here in south florida as well. and after in the historic
election, there's still a lot of divisiveness out there. you're still hopeful about what's to come? >> yes. i think that this will burn out, that the election result -- while it might have been shocking to people who are unhappy about it, with time i think that that eases a little bit. i respect their right tos protest, i hope they would do so peacefully, of course. and i also think that they, hopefully, can just take a breath and wait and see what happens. but, of course, there is a way to participate in our democracy, and if you're unhappy with the result, there is a way to get involved. that's how our founding fathers set it up. yes, i remain optimistic about america in all sorts of ways. especially just having been traveling this past week in all these different states. americans are very kind. you know, i saw that yesterday with people standing in line waiting for me at the villages and lakeland and in tampa and last night in fort myers and people bringing so kind, maybe bringing something -- people
being so kind, maybe bringing something they made for me or stopping by and saying i want to thank you for bringing your opinion on the news. they call me the voice or reason or the mother on "the five," so people are very kind. we have a lot more in commone than we might think. and truly -- this might have happened at a protest, but if you feel like there's been somebody that you've had to unfriend on facebook or that you might not be able to connect with a neighbor anymore because of politics. i mean, it was quite vitriolic. friendships have brokennen up. i actually met a makeup artist along the way who told me she and her husband were not speaking because of the riection.ol he was planning to vote for trump, she wanted to vote for clinton. i asked her, do you have a dog? she said, no. and i said, well, you might want to get one.g [laughter] because it's something that can bring people back together. >> absolutely. this is so interesting, but i know you have questions galore -- >> yes. >> and so we're going to stop. this is a good time for you, and
let's take questions. and, guys, we have about 14 minutes for questions. >> i can get a lot answered in 14 minutes. [laughter] >> so you can line up at the mic. you will forgive me if i say sometime down the line, sorry, we have to cut it off, but let's get started. >> yes, sir. >> so i'm going to out myself.st first of all, thank you very much for a lovely discussion. there are now officially three republicans and three aficionados of the denver post and rocky mountain news in the room, and i'm not going to tell you who the third one is, because she may not want me to. i am an infectious disease doctor, and one of george w. bush's legacies was what he dide to fight aids in africa. what do you think his legacy is going to be years down the road? is he going to come out positively or negatively in history? >> well, thank you. and, everyone, this is an author also who is presenting here.
he is an infectious disease doctor who has just written a book about miracles in medicine. so thank you for that. he's also from denver. one of the things that george w. bush would tell us in that last year was he wasn't worried with about his legacy. i would tell the reporters that, and they would say, oh, that'sat bo lowny, of course he is. last year he read books about george washington, and if historians are still analyzing the first president, then the 43rd doesn't have a lot to worry about because he'll never know. [laughter]analyzin and he moved on with his life. you know, he's done an amazing job, i think, as a post-president as well. one, has been very respectful of his successor, being very sigh leanlt -- silent, but he's gone on to create such an amazing institute at the bush library. the pepfar president, the president's emergency plan for aids relief, is even something that democrats will say that was amazing. it was very bold back in 2003 to go forward with that. it is credited with saving a
generation in africa, and that budget just because he felt -- that wasn't just because he felt a humanitarian obligation. there was also a national security component to that. because one of the things that condi rice and colin powell came to him to say was we are about to have failed states all across africa because these young people are dying. their parents are dying, the young people are dying, and the ones that remain, the only people to take care of them are bad actors.. and we have the means to do something different. and so he has continued to work on that in africa and, in fact, i think he's planning to visit later this year. he actually instilled in me a passion for africa. in fact, i've been several times since, i've volunteered at living hope which is a faith-based center in africa that gets pepfar money. but i also have become aligned with mercy ship, and that is a charitable hospital ship that works off the coast of west africa, and it's all surgery. and the work that they do is amazing and angelic really.
i think also for president bush that you're going to see him continue to do some amazing things. and maybe next year miami book fair would like to have him talk about a new book he has coming out in march. president bush has just finished -- or is finishing up the portraits of 98 wounded warriors who served under his command. he started painting after the white house, and he learned from winston churchill after he retired, he, winston churchill wrote an essay about how people in retirement need to have three hobbies,ing and you need to actually take lessons. painting is something winston churchill did, and 43 thought, i'll give it a shot. turns out he's actually very, very good, so he continues to serve in lots of different ways. so his legacy, while unknown to all of us because we won't live long enough to see it, i think he is assured of being a very good man and a wonderful president. >> what is your relationship todaysome. b >> we're very friendly.
he's great.ha i actually do some work with the barbara bush literacy foundation. it's amazing. they have, like, a 98% success rate for the work that they do. and i recently saw him at one of those events, and we're buddiesf >> ms. perino, prior to the invasion of iraq for many months i remember george bush on television talking about we don't want the smoking gun to be in the form of a mushroom cloud and weapons of mass destruction. that turned out to be false information. do you think that information is the product of an intelligence community that doesn't know what it's doing, or do you think the dissemination of false information prior to the invasion, the unprovoked invasion of a foreign country,